Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Maximilian Michels]

Thanks for following up with this Kenn.

-Max

On 16.11.19 00:05, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
I like the "Angler fish" as well... it certainly faster then a 
cuttlefish


  _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM Kirill Kozlov > wrote:


Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting
[1, 2, 3, 4].
[1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
[2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
[3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
[4]

https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector_id=1413785108_back=true

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really
good. I vote for that.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles
mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:

PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not
their legs. Please find attached illustrations to that
effect. And also evidence that they are occasionally fancy.
Definitely *not* from a respectable designer or anyone who
could execution a professional logo.

I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest
starting with an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant
ideas?) and then an ASF-style vote to record the validated
result. From there, we can go through more standard design
process.

Kenn

[1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels
mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:

It's great we're having this discussion and we came up
with a lot of
great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we
proceed from here.
Certainly, we can't let designers work with an
open-ended discussion on
the type of mascot.

Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long
as it is made by
a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking
to was very
generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't
think that this is
to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea
of hiring
multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those
designers to all
come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.

The sketches I've sent might not look like much because
there is still a
decent process involved in coming up with the final logo
which looks
good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations.
So far I've
tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here,
but for the sake
of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop
doing that. It
simply won't work.

How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally
executed logo
will do, this is really more about the community
agreeing for the
greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to
decide on how to
proceed here.

Cheers,
Max

On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
 > I also vote for firefly.
 >
 > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev
mailto:valen...@google.com>
 > >> wrote:
 >
 >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite
so far.
 >
 >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
 >     mailto:rober...@google.com>
>> wrote:
 >
 >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish,
which would put it at
 >         (with
 >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like
the firefly too.
 >
 >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas
mailto:g...@apache.org>
 >         >> wrote:
 >          >
 >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo
taking off!
 >          >
   

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Kenneth Knowles]

Well then...

I think this thread has gone on for some time and seems to have settled
down. We probably have enough candidates. Gris summarized the status
earlier but I think it will help to do something slightly more formal. I
think I'll try moving on with what I suggested. I will start a slightly
more formal thread to identify the favorite. This will be more clear than a
mixed discussion with preferences. If people do not like the style of the
thread I will start, we can figure out another way.

Kenn

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 3:06 PM Alex Van Boxel  wrote:

> I like the "Angler fish" as well... it certainly faster then a
> cuttlefish
>
>  _/
> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM Kirill Kozlov 
> wrote:
>
>> Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting [1,
>> 2, 3, 4].
>> [1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
>> [2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
>> [3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
>> [4]
>> https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector_id=1413785108_back=true
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I
>>> vote for that.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
 Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
 they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
 or anyone who could execution a professional logo.

 I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting
 with an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an
 ASF-style vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go
 through more standard design process.

 Kenn

 [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/

 On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels 
 wrote:

> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from
> here.
> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion
> on
> the type of mascot.
>
> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made
> by
> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>
> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still
> a
> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
> simply won't work.
>
> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how
> to
> proceed here.
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
> > I also vote for firefly.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
> valen...@google.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
> > mailto:rober...@google.com>> wrote:
> >
> > #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it
> at
> > (with
> > 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <
> g...@apache.org
> > > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
> >  >
> >  > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
> > variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
> >  >
> >  > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like
> a
> > data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
> >  >
> >  > Feedback on the current sketches.
> >  > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
> >  > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
> > original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
> >  > - Something more 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Alex Van Boxel]

I like the "Angler fish" as well... it certainly faster then a
cuttlefish

 _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM Kirill Kozlov 
wrote:

> Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting [1,
> 2, 3, 4].
> [1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
> [2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
> [3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
> [4]
> https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector_id=1413785108_back=true
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I vote
>> for that.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>
>>> PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
>>> Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
>>> they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
>>> or anyone who could execution a professional logo.
>>>
>>> I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting with
>>> an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an ASF-style
>>> vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go through more
>>> standard design process.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
 great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from
 here.
 Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on
 the type of mascot.

 Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made
 by
 a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
 generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
 to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
 multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
 come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.

 The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still
 a
 decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
 good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
 tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
 of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
 simply won't work.

 How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
 will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
 greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how
 to
 proceed here.

 Cheers,
 Max

 On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
 > I also vote for firefly.
 >
 > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
 valen...@google.com
 > > wrote:
 >
 > I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
 >
 > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
 > mailto:rober...@google.com>> wrote:
 >
 > #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it
 at
 > (with
 > 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
 >
 > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas >>> > > wrote:
 >  >
 >  > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
 >  >
 >  > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
 > variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
 >  >
 >  > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
 > data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
 >  >
 >  > Feedback on the current sketches.
 >  > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
 >  > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
 > original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
 >  > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can
 dress
 > it up and modify it
 >  >
 >  > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were
 winners
 > in this thread are:
 >  >
 >  > Beaver (3)
 >  > Firefly (3)
 >  > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
 >  > Cuttlefish (2)
 >  > Hedgehog (1)
 >  > Salmon (1)
 >  >
 >  > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
 > beaver, firefly and lemur.
 >  > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
 > current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Kirill Kozlov]

Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting [1, 2,
3, 4].
[1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
[2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
[3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
[4]
https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector_id=1413785108_back=true

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
wrote:

> That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I vote
> for that.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>
>> PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
>> Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
>> they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
>> or anyone who could execution a professional logo.
>>
>> I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting with
>> an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an ASF-style
>> vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go through more
>> standard design process.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
>>> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from here.
>>> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on
>>> the type of mascot.
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made by
>>> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
>>> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
>>> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
>>> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
>>> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>>>
>>> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still a
>>> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
>>> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
>>> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
>>> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
>>> simply won't work.
>>>
>>> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
>>> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
>>> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how to
>>> proceed here.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
>>> > I also vote for firefly.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>> valen...@google.com
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>>> > mailto:rober...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at
>>> > (with
>>> > 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas >> > > wrote:
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>>> >  >
>>> >  > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
>>> > variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
>>> > data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Feedback on the current sketches.
>>> >  > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>>> >  > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
>>> > original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>>> >  > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can
>>> dress
>>> > it up and modify it
>>> >  >
>>> >  > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners
>>> > in this thread are:
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Beaver (3)
>>> >  > Firefly (3)
>>> >  > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>>> >  > Cuttlefish (2)
>>> >  > Hedgehog (1)
>>> >  > Salmon (1)
>>> >  >
>>> >  > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
>>> > beaver, firefly and lemur.
>>> >  > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
>>> > current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
>>> > the lemur (?)
>>> >  >
>>> >  > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
>>> > designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
>>> > variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
>>> > mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>>> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy]

That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I vote
for that.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
> Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
> they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
> or anyone who could execution a professional logo.
>
> I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting with
> an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an ASF-style
> vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go through more
> standard design process.
>
> Kenn
>
> [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>
>> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
>> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from here.
>> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on
>> the type of mascot.
>>
>> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made by
>> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
>> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
>> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
>> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
>> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>>
>> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still a
>> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
>> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
>> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
>> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
>> simply won't work.
>>
>> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
>> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
>> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how to
>> proceed here.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
>> > I also vote for firefly.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>> valen...@google.com
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>> > mailto:rober...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at
>> > (with
>> > 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas > > > wrote:
>> >  >
>> >  > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>> >  >
>> >  > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
>> > variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>> >  >
>> >  > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
>> > data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>> >  >
>> >  > Feedback on the current sketches.
>> >  > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>> >  > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
>> > original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>> >  > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress
>> > it up and modify it
>> >  >
>> >  > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners
>> > in this thread are:
>> >  >
>> >  > Beaver (3)
>> >  > Firefly (3)
>> >  > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>> >  > Cuttlefish (2)
>> >  > Hedgehog (1)
>> >  > Salmon (1)
>> >  >
>> >  > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
>> > beaver, firefly and lemur.
>> >  > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
>> > current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
>> > the lemur (?)
>> >  >
>> >  > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
>> > designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
>> > variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
>> > mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>> 
>> >  with designers in
>> > their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>> >  >
>> >  > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched
>> > and we vote on that.
>> >  >
>> >  > [1]
>> >
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB=1440=735
>> >  

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Maximilian Michels]

It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of 
great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from here. 
Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on 
the type of mascot.


Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made by 
a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very 
generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is 
to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring 
multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all 
come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.


The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still a 
decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks 
good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've 
tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake 
of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It 
simply won't work.


How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo 
will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the 
greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how to 
proceed here.


Cheers,
Max

On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:

I also vote for firefly.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev > wrote:


I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
mailto:rober...@google.com>> wrote:

#37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at
(with
4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas mailto:g...@apache.org>> wrote:
 >
 > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
 >
 > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
 >
 > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
 >
 > Feedback on the current sketches.
 > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
 > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
 > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress
it up and modify it
 >
 > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners
in this thread are:
 >
 > Beaver (3)
 > Firefly (3)
 > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
 > Cuttlefish (2)
 > Hedgehog (1)
 > Salmon (1)
 >
 > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
beaver, firefly and lemur.
 > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
the lemur (?)
 >
 > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
mentioned here that we have teams/companies
 with designers in
their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
 >
 > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched
and we vote on that.
 >
 > [1]

https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB=1440=735
 > [2]

https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc=isch=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA=pancakes+grpc_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6..01..gws-wiz-img.10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw=735=1440

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Hannah Jiang]

I also vote for firefly.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev 
wrote:

> I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw 
> wrote:
>
>> #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at (with
>> 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>> >
>> > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as
>> a stuffed animal is very original.
>> >
>> > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data
>> pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>> >
>> > Feedback on the current sketches.
>> > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>> > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and original,
>> pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>> > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and
>> modify it
>> >
>> > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this
>> thread are:
>> >
>> > Beaver (3)
>> > Firefly (3)
>> > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>> > Cuttlefish (2)
>> > Hedgehog (1)
>> > Salmon (1)
>> >
>> > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver,
>> firefly and lemur.
>> > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current
>> sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)
>> >
>> > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since
>> like someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal
>> styles, and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>>  with designers in their
>> teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>> >
>> > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we
>> vote on that.
>> >
>> > [1]
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB=1440=735
>> > [2]
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc=isch=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA=pancakes+grpc_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6..01..gws-wiz-img.10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw=735=1440
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Valentyn Tymofieiev]

I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw 
wrote:

> #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at (with
> 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas  wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
> >
> > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as a
> stuffed animal is very original.
> >
> > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data
> pipeline, lol or the beaver!
> >
> > Feedback on the current sketches.
> > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
> > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and original,
> pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
> > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and
> modify it
> >
> > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this
> thread are:
> >
> > Beaver (3)
> > Firefly (3)
> > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
> > Cuttlefish (2)
> > Hedgehog (1)
> > Salmon (1)
> >
> > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver,
> firefly and lemur.
> > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current
> sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)
> >
> > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since
> like someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal
> styles, and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>  with designers in their teams,
> so let's take advantage of that as well :)
> >
> > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we
> vote on that.
> >
> > [1]
> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB=1440=735
> > [2]
> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc=isch=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA=pancakes+grpc_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6..01..gws-wiz-img.10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw=735=1440
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Robert Bradshaw]

#37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at (with
4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>
> I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as a 
> stuffed animal is very original.
>
> Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data pipeline, 
> lol or the beaver!
>
> Feedback on the current sketches.
> - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
> - I'd like to see something that is completely new and original, pancakes 
> from gRPC is an example[2]
> - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and 
> modify it
>
> To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this thread 
> are:
>
> Beaver (3)
> Firefly (3)
> Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
> Cuttlefish (2)
> Hedgehog (1)
> Salmon (1)
>
> So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver, firefly and 
> lemur.
> I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current sketch 
> options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)
>
> I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since like 
> someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal 
> styles, and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies with 
> designers in their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>
> I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we vote on 
> that.
>
> [1] 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB=1440=735
> [2] 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc=isch=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA=pancakes+grpc_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6..01..gws-wiz-img.10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw=735=1440

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Gris Cuevas]

Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off! 

I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as a 
stuffed animal is very original. 

Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data pipeline, lol 
or the beaver! 

Feedback on the current sketches. 
- They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
- I'd like to see something that is completely new and original, pancakes from 
gRPC is an example[2]
- Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and modify 
it

To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this thread 
are: 

Beaver (3)
Firefly (3)
Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
Cuttlefish (2)
Hedgehog (1)
Salmon (1) 

So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver, firefly and 
lemur. 
I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current sketch 
options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)

I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since like 
someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal styles, 
and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies with designers in 
their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :) 

I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we vote on 
that. 

[1] 
https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB=1440=735
[2] 
https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc=isch=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA=pancakes+grpc_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6..01..gws-wiz-img.10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw=735=1440

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Jozef Vilcek]

Interesting topic :) I kind of liked also Alex's firefly. The impression it
made on me. To drive it further, hands on hips make strong / serious pose,
hovering in the air above all.
I would put logo on the him, to become is torso / body or a dress. Logo
with a big B on it almost looks like superhero dress / cap ( which is
popular tune these "days" :) ).

To summarize, I would love mascot not only looks nice, but be deadly
serious about doing cool stuff and pulling superhero features out of it's
sleeve :D

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:17 PM Maximilian Michels  wrote:

> > Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?
>
> +1 That would combine two ideas: (1) "Beam" eyes and (2) sea animal.
>
> We could set this as the working idea and build a logo based off that.
>
> On 12.11.19 22:41, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:29 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >  wrote:
> >> 52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.
> >
> > Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> More logos :D
> >>>
> >>> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
> >>>
> >>>   From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
> >>> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
> >>> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Max
> >>>
> >>> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>  Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
>  they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
>  (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
>  the logo into the trailing beam of light.
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:
> >
> > Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik  wrote:
> >>
> >> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos 
> wrote:
> 
>  I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are
> also cute.
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik 
> wrote:
> >
> > 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <
> m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in
> one image
> >> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My
> favorites are
> >> (2) and (9).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Max
> >>
> >> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> >>> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
> sketches,
> >>> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> >>>
> >>> -Max
> >>>
> >>> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>  +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point
> ;-)
> 
>  Fire2.jpg
> 
> 
> 
>  _/
>  _/ Alex Van Boxel
> 
> 
>  On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <
> kcwea...@google.com
>  > wrote:
> 
>    Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with
> trout, but
>    the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their
> cover a "robot
>    dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is
> worth
>  revisiting?
> 
>    On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <
> lc...@google.com
>    > wrote:
> 
>    My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> 
>    On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <
> r...@google.com
>    > wrote:
> 
>    Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> 
>    On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>    mailto:k...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> 
>    Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter
> if they are
>    taken if they are not too close in space to
> Beam: Apache
>    projects, big data, log processing, stream
> processing.
>    Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic
> opinion. So I
>    would keep Lemur as a possibility.
> Definitely nginx is
> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Maximilian Michels]

Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?


+1 That would combine two ideas: (1) "Beam" eyes and (2) sea animal.

We could set this as the working idea and build a logo based off that.

On 12.11.19 22:41, Robert Bradshaw wrote:

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:29 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
 wrote:

52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.


Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?


On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:


More logos :D

(35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.

  From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.

Cheers,
Max

On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:

Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
(not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
the logo into the trailing beam of light.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:


Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263


On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik  wrote:


The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:


I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos  wrote:


I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik  wrote:


9 and 7 for me (in that order)

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:


Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
(2) and (9).

Cheers,
Max

On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:

I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.

-Max

On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:

+1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)

Fire2.jpg



_/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver mailto:kcwea...@google.com>> wrote:

  Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
  the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
  dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
revisiting?

  On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:

  My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.

  On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni mailto:r...@google.com>> wrote:

  Salmon... they love streams? :-)

  On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
  mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:

  Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
  taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
  projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
  Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
  would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
  far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
  different.

  Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
  related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
  non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
  think there's enough room for another mascot with big
  glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
  will be more significant than the taxonomy.

  Kenn

  On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
  mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

  Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
  also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].

  Personally, I don't think it matters much which
  mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
  close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
  just get all ideas out. We should still consider
  hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
  nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/

  And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
  your point:
   >how do we arrive at a concrete design
   >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
  My thinking is that the designer will come up with
  few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
list.

  [1]

https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/

  [2]

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Robert Bradshaw]

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:29 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
 wrote:
> 52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.

Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?

> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>>
>> More logos :D
>>
>> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
>>
>>  From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
>> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
>> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>> > Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
>> > they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
>> > (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
>> > the logo into the trailing beam of light.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>> 
>>  I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>> 
>>  On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos  
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also 
>> > cute.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one 
>> >>> image
>> >>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>> >>> (2) and (9).
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Max
>> >>>
>> >>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>  I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough 
>>  sketches,
>>  I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>> 
>>  -Max
>> 
>>  On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> > +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>> >
>> > Fire2.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >_/
>> > _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >  Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with 
>> > trout, but
>> >  the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a 
>> > "robot
>> >  dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>> > revisiting?
>> >
>> >  On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik > >  > wrote:
>> >
>> >  My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>> >
>> >  On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni 
>> > > >  > wrote:
>> >
>> >  Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>> >
>> >  On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>> >  mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >  Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if 
>> > they are
>> >  taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: 
>> > Apache
>> >  projects, big data, log processing, stream 
>> > processing.
>> >  Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So 
>> > I
>> >  would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely 
>> > nginx is
>> >  far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the 
>> > art is
>> >  different.
>> >
>> >  Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>> >  related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>> >  non-extinct infraorder within suborder 
>> > Strepsirrhini. I
>> >  think there's enough room for another mascot with 
>> > big
>> >  glowing eyes :-). The difference in the 
>> > designer's art
>> >  will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>> >
>> >  Kenn
>> >
>> >  On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat 
>> > kyzy
>> >  > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >  Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy]

52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:

> More logos :D
>
> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
>
>  From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> > Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
> > they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
> > (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
> > the logo into the trailing beam of light.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles 
> wrote:
> 
>  I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos 
> wrote:
> >
> > I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also
> cute.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik  wrote:
> >>
> >> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one
> image
> >>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites
> are
> >>> (2) and (9).
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Max
> >>>
> >>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>  I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
> sketches,
>  I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> 
>  -Max
> 
>  On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> > +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
> >
> > Fire2.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >_/
> > _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver  > > wrote:
> >
> >  Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with
> trout, but
> >  the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover
> a "robot
> >  dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
> > revisiting?
> >
> >  On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik  >  > wrote:
> >
> >  My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> >
> >  On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <
> r...@google.com
> >  > wrote:
> >
> >  Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> >
> >  On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
> >  mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >  Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if
> they are
> >  taken if they are not too close in space to
> Beam: Apache
> >  projects, big data, log processing, stream
> processing.
> >  Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion.
> So I
> >  would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely
> nginx is
> >  far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as
> the art is
> >  different.
> >
> >  Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and
> also
> >  related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
> >  non-extinct infraorder within suborder
> Strepsirrhini. I
> >  think there's enough room for another mascot
> with big
> >  glowing eyes :-). The difference in the
> designer's art
> >  will be more significant than the taxonomy.
> >
> >  Kenn
> >
> >  On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal
> Nurmamat kyzy
> >   aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >  Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then
> lemur is
> >  also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
> >
> >  Personally, I don't think it matters much
> which
> >  mascots are taken, as long as the project
> is not too
> >  close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
> good to
> >  just get all ideas out. We 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Robert Bradshaw]

Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
(not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
the logo into the trailing beam of light.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:
>
> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik  wrote:
>>
>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos  wrote:

 I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.

 On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik  wrote:
>
> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels  
> wrote:
>>
>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>> (2) and (9).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>> >
>> > -Max
>> >
>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Fire2.jpg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   _/
>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>> >> the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a 
>> >> "robot
>> >> dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>> >> revisiting?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>> >> mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>> >> taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: 
>> >> Apache
>> >> projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>> >> Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>> >> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>> >> far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art 
>> >> is
>> >> different.
>> >>
>> >> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>> >> related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>> >> non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. 
>> >> I
>> >> think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>> >> glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>> >> will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>> >>
>> >> Kenn
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur 
>> >> is
>> >> also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>> >> mascots are taken, as long as the project is not 
>> >> too
>> >> close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good 
>> >> to
>> >> just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>> >> hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>> >> nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>> >>
>> >> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>> >> your point:
>> >>  >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> >>  >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>> >> My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>> >> few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>> >> list.
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> >> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Udi Meiri]

Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263


On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik  wrote:

> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>
>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik  wrote:
>>>
 9 and 7 for me (in that order)

 On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels 
 wrote:

> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one
> image
> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
> (2) and (9).
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
> sketches,
> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
> >>
> >> Fire2.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   _/
> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout,
> but
> >> the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
> "robot
> >> dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
> >> revisiting?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> >>
> >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
> >> mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they
> are
> >> taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
> Apache
> >> projects, big data, log processing, stream
> processing.
> >> Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
> >> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx
> is
> >> far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the
> art is
> >> different.
> >>
> >> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
> >> related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
> >> non-extinct infraorder within
> suborder Strepsirrhini. I
> >> think there's enough room for another mascot with
> big
> >> glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's
> art
> >> will be more significant than the taxonomy.
> >>
> >> Kenn
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat
> kyzy
> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then
> lemur is
> >> also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
> >>
> >> Personally, I don't think it matters much which
> >> mascots are taken, as long as the project is
> not too
> >> close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
> good to
> >> just get all ideas out. We should still consider
> >> hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't
> look
> >> nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
> >>
> >> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max.
> To
> >> your point:
> >>  >how do we arrive at a concrete design
> >>  >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
> >> My thinking is that the designer will come up
> with
> >> few sketches, then we vote on one here in the
> dev@
> >> list.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> >>
> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
> >>
> >> [2]
> >>
> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian
> Michels
> >> mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>   

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Luke Cwik]

The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos  wrote:
>
>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik  wrote:
>>
>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one
 image
 and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
 (2) and (9).

 Cheers,
 Max

 On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
 > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
 sketches,
 > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
 >
 > -Max
 >
 > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
 >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
 >>
 >> Fire2.jpg
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>   _/
 >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
 >>
 >>
 >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver >>> >> > wrote:
 >>
 >> Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout,
 but
 >> the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
 "robot
 >> dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
 >> revisiting?
 >>
 >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik >>> >> > wrote:
 >>
 >> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
 >>
 >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni >>> >> > wrote:
 >>
 >> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
 >>
 >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
 >> mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
 >>
 >> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they
 are
 >> taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
 Apache
 >> projects, big data, log processing, stream
 processing.
 >> Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
 >> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx
 is
 >> far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art
 is
 >> different.
 >>
 >> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
 >> related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
 >> non-extinct infraorder within
 suborder Strepsirrhini. I
 >> think there's enough room for another mascot with big
 >> glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's
 art
 >> will be more significant than the taxonomy.
 >>
 >> Kenn
 >>
 >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
 >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>
 wrote:
 >>
 >> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur
 is
 >> also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
 >>
 >> Personally, I don't think it matters much which
 >> mascots are taken, as long as the project is not
 too
 >> close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
 to
 >> just get all ideas out. We should still consider
 >> hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
 >> nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
 >>
 >> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
 >> your point:
 >>  >how do we arrive at a concrete design
 >>  >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
 >> My thinking is that the designer will come up
 with
 >> few sketches, then we vote on one here in the
 dev@
 >> list.
 >>
 >> [1]
 >>
 >>
 https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
 >>
 >> [2]
 >>
 >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
 >>
 >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
 >> mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:
 >>
 >> Quick update: The mentioned designer has
 gotten
 >> back to me and offered
 >> to sketch something until the end of the
 week.
 >> I've pointed him to this
 >> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[David Cavazos]

I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik  wrote:

> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>
>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>> (2) and (9).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>> >
>> > -Max
>> >
>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Fire2.jpg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   _/
>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>> >> the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
>> "robot
>> >> dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>> >> revisiting?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>> >> mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>> >> taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
>> Apache
>> >> projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>> >> Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>> >> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>> >> far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>> >> different.
>> >>
>> >> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>> >> related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>> >> non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>> >> think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>> >> glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>> >> will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>> >>
>> >> Kenn
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>> >> also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>> >> mascots are taken, as long as the project is not
>> too
>> >> close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>> >> just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>> >> hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>> >> nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>> >>
>> >> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>> >> your point:
>> >>  >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> >>  >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>> >> My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>> >> few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>> >> list.
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>> >>
>> >> [2]
>> >>
>> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>> >> mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>> >> back to me and offered
>> >> to sketch something until the end of the week.
>> >> I've pointed him to this
>> >> thread and the existing logo material:
>> >> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>> >>
>> >> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in
>> any
>> >> way, I just think
>> >> having something concrete will help us to
>> >> eventually decide what we want.]
>> >>
>> >> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> >>  > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays?
>> ;)

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Luke Cwik]

9 and 7 for me (in that order)

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:

> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
> (2) and (9).
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
> >>
> >> Fire2.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   _/
> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
> >> the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
> >> dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
> >> revisiting?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> >>
> >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
> >> mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
> >> taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
> >> projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
> >> Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
> >> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
> >> far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
> >> different.
> >>
> >> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
> >> related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
> >> non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
> >> think there's enough room for another mascot with big
> >> glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
> >> will be more significant than the taxonomy.
> >>
> >> Kenn
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
> >> also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
> >>
> >> Personally, I don't think it matters much which
> >> mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
> >> close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
> >> just get all ideas out. We should still consider
> >> hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
> >> nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
> >>
> >> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
> >> your point:
> >>  >how do we arrive at a concrete design
> >>  >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
> >> My thinking is that the designer will come up with
> >> few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
> >> list.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> >>
> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
> >>
> >> [2]
> >>
> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
> >> mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
> >> back to me and offered
> >> to sketch something until the end of the week.
> >> I've pointed him to this
> >> thread and the existing logo material:
> >> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
> >>
> >> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
> >> way, I just think
> >> having something concrete will help us to
> >> eventually decide what we want.]
> >>
> >> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> >>  > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays?
> ;)
> >>  >
> >>  >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
> >> animal that has glowing bright
> >>  >> eyes such as a lemur
> >>  >
> >>  

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Maximilian Michels]

I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches, 
I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.


-Max

On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:

+1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)

Fire2.jpg



  _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver > wrote:


Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth revisiting?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:

My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni mailto:r...@google.com>> wrote:

Salmon... they love streams? :-)

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:

Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
different.

Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
think there's enough room for another mascot with big
glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
will be more significant than the taxonomy.

Kenn

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].

Personally, I don't think it matters much which
mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
just get all ideas out. We should still consider
hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/

And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
your point:
 >how do we arrive at a concrete design
 >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
My thinking is that the designer will come up with
few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@ list.

[1]

https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
[2]
https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:

Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
back to me and offered
to sketch something until the end of the week.
I've pointed him to this
thread and the existing logo material:
https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/

[I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
way, I just think
having something concrete will help us to
eventually decide what we want.]

On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
 > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
 >
 >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
animal that has glowing bright
 >> eyes such as a lemur
 >
 > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
orange eyes.
 >
 > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
recently talked to a designer
 > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
He was inclined to work on
 > a software project logo. Of course there is a
little bit of a price tag
 > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
 >
 > It raises the general question, how do we
arrive at a concrete design
 > once we have consensus on the type of 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Kyle Weaver]

Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but the book
mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot dinosaur with a
Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth revisiting?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik  wrote:

> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni  wrote:
>
>> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>
>>> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
>>> not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
>>> stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
>>> so it seems OK as long as the art is different.
>>>
>>> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of
>>> the only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
>>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
>>> big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
>>> significant than the taxonomy.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
 Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1]
 and the owl too [2].

 Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as
 long as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
 good to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I
 looked up fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
 :/

 And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
 >how do we arrive at a concrete design
 >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
 My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then
 we vote on one here in the dev@ list.

 [1]
 https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
 [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/

 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels 
 wrote:

> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to
> this
> thread and the existing logo material:
> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>
> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we
> want.]
>
> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
> >
> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
> bright
> >> eyes such as a lemur
> >
> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
> >
> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a
> designer
> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work
> on
> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price
> tag
> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
> >
> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete
> design
> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are
> also
> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Max
> >
> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
> bright
> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur
> [1]
> >> or an owl.
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes! Let's have a mascot!
> >>
> >> Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
> >> processing space, there is
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
> >>
> >> I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
> >>
> >> Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
> >>
> >> Kenn
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
> >> language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
> dcava...@google.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Luke Cwik]

My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni  wrote:

> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>
>> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
>> not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
>> stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
>> so it seems OK as long as the art is different.
>>
>> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of
>> the only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
>> big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
>> significant than the taxonomy.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
>>> the owl too [2].
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as
>>> long as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
>>> good to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I
>>> looked up fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
>>> :/
>>>
>>> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>>> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
>>> vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
 to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
 thread and the existing logo material:
 https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/

 [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
 having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we
 want.]

 On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
 > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
 >
 >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
 bright
 >> eyes such as a lemur
 >
 > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
 >
 > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
 > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work
 on
 > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price
 tag
 > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
 >
 > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
 > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are
 also
 > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Max
 >
 > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
 >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
 bright
 >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
 >> or an owl.
 >>
 >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
 >>
 >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles >>> >> > wrote:
 >>
 >> Yes! Let's have a mascot!
 >>
 >> Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
 >> processing space, there is
 https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
 >>
 >> I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
 >>
 >> Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
 >>
 >> Kenn
 >>
 >>
 >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke >>> >> > wrote:
 >>
 >> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
 >> language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
 >>
 >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
 dcava...@google.com
 >> > wrote:
 >>
 >> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
 >>
 >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
 >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>
 wrote:
 >>
 >> Hi everybody,
 >>
 >> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
 >> brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
 would
 >> like us to go through with it this time if we are
 all in
 >> agreement:)
 >>
 >>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Reza Rokni]

Salmon... they love streams? :-)

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
> not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
> stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
> so it seems OK as long as the art is different.
>
> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of the
> only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
> suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
> big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
> significant than the taxonomy.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
> wrote:
>
>> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
>> the owl too [2].
>>
>> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as
>> long as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
>> good to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I
>> looked up fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
>> :/
>>
>> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
>> vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>>
>>> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
>>> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
>>> thread and the existing logo material:
>>> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>
>>> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
>>> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we
>>> want.]
>>>
>>> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>> >
>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>> bright
>>> >> eyes such as a lemur
>>> >
>>> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
>>> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work
>>> on
>>> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price
>>> tag
>>> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>> >
>>> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also
>>> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Max
>>> >
>>> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>> bright
>>> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
>>> >> or an owl.
>>> >>
>>> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles >> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>> >>
>>> >> Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>>> >> processing space, there is
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>> >>
>>> >> I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kenn
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke >> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>>> >> language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>> dcava...@google.com
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi everybody,
>>> >>
>>> >> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>> >> brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>> would
>>> >> like us to go through with it this time if we are all
>>> in
>>> >> agreement:)
>>> >>
>>> >> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>> should
>>> >> be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What
>>> do
>>> >> you all think?
>>> >>
>>> >> For example, I am proposing a 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Kenneth Knowles]

Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
so it seems OK as long as the art is different.

Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of the
only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
significant than the taxonomy.

Kenn

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
wrote:

> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
> the owl too [2].
>
> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as long
> as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
> to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I looked up
> fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>
> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
> vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>
> [1]
> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>
>> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
>> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
>> thread and the existing logo material:
>> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>
>> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
>> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we want.]
>>
>> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>> >
>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
>> >> eyes such as a lemur
>> >
>> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
>> >
>> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
>> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on
>> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag
>> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>> >
>> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also
>> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Max
>> >
>> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
>> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
>> >> or an owl.
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>> >>
>> >> Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>> >> processing space, there is
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>> >>
>> >> I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>> >>
>> >> Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>> >>
>> >> Kenn
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>> >> language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>> dcava...@google.com
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi everybody,
>> >>
>> >> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>> >> brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
>> >> like us to go through with it this time if we are all
>> in
>> >> agreement:)
>> >>
>> >> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
>> >> be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
>> >> you all think?
>> >>
>> >> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>> >> because:
>> >> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>> >> 2. The name is close to Beam
>> >> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>> really
>> >>  

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy]

Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
the owl too [2].

Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as long
as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I looked up
fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/

And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>how do we arrive at a concrete design
>once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
vote on one here in the dev@ list.

[1]
https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
[2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:

> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
> thread and the existing logo material:
> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>
> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we want.]
>
> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
> >
> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
> >> eyes such as a lemur
> >
> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
> >
> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on
> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag
> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
> >
> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also
> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Max
> >
> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
> >> or an owl.
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes! Let's have a mascot!
> >>
> >> Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
> >> processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
> >>
> >> I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
> >>
> >> Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
> >>
> >> Kenn
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
> >> language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everybody,
> >>
> >> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
> >> brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
> >> like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
> >> agreement:)
> >>
> >> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
> >> be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
> >> you all think?
> >>
> >> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
> >> because:
> >> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
> >> 2. The name is close to Beam
> >> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
> >> cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>
> >> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
> >> options that you think could be appropriate? I would
> >> like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
> >> discussions going.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Aizhamal
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >> mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everybody,
> >>
> >> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
> >> brought up a couple times here in the 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Maximilian Michels]

Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered 
to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this 
thread and the existing logo material: 
https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/


[I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think 
having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we want.]


On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:

How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)

Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright 
eyes such as a lemur


I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.

Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer 
which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on 
a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag 
attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.


It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design 
once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also 
designers working at companies using Beam ;)


Cheers,
Max

On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright 
eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1] 
or an owl.


[1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles > wrote:


    Yes! Let's have a mascot!

    Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
    processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver

    I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.

    Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.

    Kenn


    On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke mailto:rob...@frantil.com>> wrote:

    As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
    language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.

    On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos mailto:dcava...@google.com>> wrote:

    I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)

    On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
    mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

    Hi everybody,

    I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
    brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
    like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
    agreement:)

    We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
    be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
    you all think?

    For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, 
because:

    1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
    2. The name is close to Beam
    3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
    cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9

    WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
    options that you think could be appropriate? I would
    like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
    discussions going.

    Thanks,
    Aizhamal


    On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos mailto:dcava...@google.com>> wrote:

    I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)

    On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
    mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

    Hi everybody,

    I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
    brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
    like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
    agreement:)

    We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
    be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
    you all think?

    For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, 
because:

    1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
    2. The name is close to Beam
    3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
    cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9

    WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
    options that you think could be appropriate? I would
    like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
    discussions going.

    Thanks,
    Aizhamal

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Maximilian Michels]

How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)


Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright eyes 
such as a lemur


I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.

Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer 
which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on 
a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag 
attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.


It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design 
once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also 
designers working at companies using Beam ;)


Cheers,
Max

On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright 
eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1] or 
an owl.


[1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles > wrote:


Yes! Let's have a mascot!

Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver

I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.

Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.

Kenn


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke mailto:rob...@frantil.com>> wrote:

As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos mailto:dcava...@google.com>> wrote:

I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

Hi everybody,

I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
agreement:)

We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
you all think?

For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
2. The name is close to Beam
3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9

WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
options that you think could be appropriate? I would
like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
discussions going.

Thanks,
Aizhamal


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos mailto:dcava...@google.com>> wrote:

I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

Hi everybody,

I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
agreement:)

We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
you all think?

For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
2. The name is close to Beam
3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9

WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
options that you think could be appropriate? I would
like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
discussions going.

Thanks,
Aizhamal

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Eugene Kirpichov]

Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright eyes
(with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1] or an owl.

[1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>
> Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
> processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>
> I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>
> Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>
> Kenn
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke  wrote:
>
>> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming language with a
>> rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  wrote:
>>
>>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everybody,

 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
 times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
 if we are all in agreement:)

 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
 characteristics and principles. What do you all think?

 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
 2. The name is close to Beam
 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
 https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9

 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
 think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
 and get the discussions going.

 Thanks,
 Aizhamal

>>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  wrote:
>>
>>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everybody,

 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
 times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
 if we are all in agreement:)

 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
 characteristics and principles. What do you all think?

 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
 2. The name is close to Beam
 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
 https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9

 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
 think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
 and get the discussions going.

 Thanks,
 Aizhamal

>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Kenneth Knowles]

Yes! Let's have a mascot!

Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log processing
space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver

I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.

Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.

Kenn


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke  wrote:

> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming language with a
> rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  wrote:
>
>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>>
>>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>>
>>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>
>>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>>> and get the discussions going.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aizhamal
>>>
>>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  wrote:
>
>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>>
>>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>>
>>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>
>>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>>> and get the discussions going.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aizhamal
>>>
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[Robert Burke]

As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming language with a
rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  wrote:

> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>
>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>
>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>
>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>> and get the discussions going.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>>
>
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos  wrote:

> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>
>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>
>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>
>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>> and get the discussions going.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

[David Cavazos]

I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
> if we are all in agreement:)
>
> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>
> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
> 2. The name is close to Beam
> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>
> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
> and get the discussions going.
>
> Thanks,
> Aizhamal
>