Hi Aaron,
first i thank you for your advices.
Now my answears:
I don't know exactly what EJB's are. I only know that they are Enterprise Java
Beans. But what they are doing is a little black cloud in my mind.
My EAR consists of three JAR's, three WAR's and an application.xml as well as a
Jules Gosnell wrote:
I pressed 'send' without counting to 10 first on the last response. Sorry.
No probs - no offence taken.
I've obviously done a bad job of explaining myself so far. Is this
clearer ?
Actually no - I preferred the slightly pissed off version for clarity :-)
I actually
Greg Wilkins wrote:
Jules Gosnell wrote:
I pressed 'send' without counting to 10 first on the last response. Sorry.
No probs - no offence taken.
I've obviously done a bad job of explaining myself so far. Is this
clearer ?
Actually no - I preferred the slightly pissed off version for
This is my idea of how we could morph the currently proposed session APIs
into a cluster API.
I have created a spot for Cluster meta data - but I have not filled it out much.
The key difference is that the state Map is now indexed by session ID and
context ID.
This allows the state for
[ https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-644?page=all ]
Joseph Dennis Gapuz reassigned AMQ-644:
---
Assign To: Joseph Dennis Gapuz
create Java Service Wrapper for ActiveMQ
Key: AMQ-644
[ https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-644?page=all ]
Work on AMQ-644 started by Joseph Dennis Gapuz
create Java Service Wrapper for ActiveMQ
Key: AMQ-644
URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-644
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2148?page=all ]
Rick McGuire resolved GERONIMO-2148.
Resolution: Fixed
Committed revision 421852.
Ageronimo-spec-javamail-1.3.1
Ageronimo-spec-javamail-1.3.1/NOTICE.txt
A
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2086?page=all ]
Rick McGuire resolved GERONIMO-2086.
Resolution: Duplicate
Duplicate of GERONIMO-2148.
Create a 1.4 version of javamail.
-
Key:
Filip,
sorry - but I missed this post before I sent my own API suggestion.
However, I think the good news is that your API view is very much
the same as my API view
We both start at Cluster and can discover meta data about Nodes.
Your Cluster provides a channel/message mechanism that I
Project: Apache Geronimo
Status: Resolved, Closed (9 items)
Updated In Last: Week (7 days)
** New Feature
* [GERONIMO-2086] Create a 1.4 version of javamail.
* [GERONIMO-2148] Add javamail 1.4 to geronimo specs.
** Bug
* [GERONIMO-1887] Remove unneeded jars from console WEB-INF/lib
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2147?page=all ]
Rick McGuire resolved GERONIMO-2147.
Resolution: Fixed
Committed revision 421872.
Massemblies/j2ee-jetty-server/project.xml
Massemblies/j2ee-installer/project.xml
M
I've been taking some hard looks at all of the places where Geronimo
creates/configures ORB instances as part of an effort to enable Geronimo
for using the Yoko ORB. As a result, I've made an interesting discovery
about how CSSBean is working that might warrant a 1.1.1 bug fix. The
first
?wsdl becomes /?wsdl
Key: GERONIMO-2191
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2191
Project: Geronimo
Issue Type: Bug
Security Level: public (Regular issues)
Components: Tomcat
Affects
Cool, thanks for posting this.
While I do believe everything in this API is very useful, I see it as an
extension to the one I created.
My API is only about the cluster, and its meta data, while the API below
is very session oriented.
In a cluster without state replication, most of the
Jetty can't handle encoded urls that contain a jsessionid
-
Key: GERONIMO-2192
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2192
Project: Geronimo
Issue Type: Bug
Security
Hey David,
I'd like to get this process rolling for 1.1.1-SNAPSHOT and 1.2-
SNAPSHOT. Are these builds running on GBuild? Can we get multiple
people (not just you) to help maintain this?
--kevan
On May 10, 2006, at 9:26 AM, David Blevins wrote:
All,
I've revived our script that creates
Hello Susan,
Thanks very much for your email this morning. I appreciate your comments
about the Public Relations Committee and our apologies about not
reaching out to you earlier about this community building event. I had
sent an email to the PRC prior to our similar event held at JavaOne, but
Ok. look like there was not too much opposition to backporting this so..
I'll go ahead and do it later today.
On 7/11/06, Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 - sounds good to me
On 11 Jul 2006, at 16:42, Hiram Chirino wrote:
Hi Folks.
In 4.1 we added a patch that add support of
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1695?page=all ]
Rick McGuire reassigned GERONIMO-1695:
--
Assignee: Rick McGuire
CORBA for EJB with Local interface only causes NPE
--
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1445?page=all ]
Sachin Patel resolved GERONIMO-1445.
Resolution: Fixed
Can no longer reproduce this, the problem seems to be fixed. Please verify.
Allow deployment and use of exploded EAR modules
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2186?page=all ]
Paul McMahan updated GERONIMO-2186:
---
Patch Info: [Patch Available]
Component/s: core
(was: console)
Assignee: Paul McMahan (was: Donald Woods)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2186?page=all ]
Paul McMahan updated GERONIMO-2186:
---
Attachment: GERONIMO-2186.patch
Editing of Connection Pools other than Derby from console not working
Great!
Must be nearly time to cut a 4.0.2 release :)
On 7/14/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok. look like there was not too much opposition to backporting this so..
I'll go ahead and do it later today.
On 7/11/06, Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 - sounds good to me
On
Where are the Javamail-1.3 1.2-SNAPSHOT artifacts deployed?
--jason
On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: rickmcguire
Date: Fri Jul 14 04:26:41 2006
New Revision: 421872
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=421872view=rev
Log:
GERONIMO-2147 Remove javamail-transport
On Jul 14, 2006, at 6:53 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
Hey David,
I'd like to get this process rolling for 1.1.1-SNAPSHOT and 1.2-
SNAPSHOT. Are these builds running on GBuild? Can we get multiple
people (not just you) to help maintain this?
I've got to submit a patch for this. I'll put that
How did this go? Looks like issues is running 3.6.3-DEV-ASF-#156...
does this fix the wiki bits?
I don't see the tools plugin or the graph plugin though :-( Are
those going to make it in?
--jason
On Jul 13, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Jeff Turner wrote:
Hi,
At about 7am UTC:
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1690?page=comments#action_12421172
]
Sachin Patel commented on GERONIMO-1690:
I think this is on the 1.1.1 list because of the attached patch which is
already committed and so the core of
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1690?page=all ]
Sachin Patel updated GERONIMO-1690:
---
Fix Version/s: 1.2
(was: 1.1.1)
Additional support for Targets passed into JSR88
Jason Dillon wrote:
Where are the Javamail-1.3 1.2-SNAPSHOT artifacts deployed?
I'm not sure they are yet. This is the level built if you build the
specs freshly. What's the process of getting the snapshots published?
Rick
--jason
On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to install Pluto 1.1 portal server into Geronimo. Till now i am able to get About and Admin portlets working. Both these portlets are part of pluto.war. Now i am facing one classloader related problem when i try to install HelloWorld Portlet in
HelloWorld.war (Separate war).
Hi Kristin:
I was recently forwarded your announcement about the Apache Geronimo event
you're hosting at OSCON. The Public Relations Committee at the ASF is
excited that there are vendors showing a strong interest in working with
and promoting Geronimo. We strongly encourage you to work
On Jul 14, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Rick McGuire wrote:
Jason Dillon wrote:
Where are the Javamail-1.3 1.2-SNAPSHOT artifacts deployed?
I'm not sure they are yet. This is the level built if you build
the specs freshly. What's the process of getting the snapshots
published?
Dunno... I need to
modules\system\src\java\org\apache\geronimo\system\repository\AbstractRepository.java
Jason Dillon wrote:
Where is the code that spits out ##... ?
I did not see that in the plugin... maybe I missed it... or maybe its
hiding from me.
--jason
On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Prasad
I was using both XP's and Win2003's built in ZIP extractor and then I tried
WinRAR. They each had trouble with some of the .java files, and in some
cases were exhibiting the problem as requiring a password for those files. I
thought perhaps I had to be a servicemix developer to access them all,
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2131?page=all ]
Donald Woods updated GERONIMO-2131:
---
Fix Version/s: 1.2
(was: 1.x)
Assignee: Donald Woods
Installed Configuration message written using
I think something will need to be done in addConsumer(...). When a consumer
subscribes to a queue called ActiveMQ.Virtual.GroupName.TopicName, the
Destination is not created until someone sends a message to it.
The getDestinations(ActiveMQDestination) method returns nothing for
Sweet :-)
--jason
On Jul 14, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Donald Woods (JIRA) wrote:
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2131?page=all ]
Donald Woods updated GERONIMO-2131:
---
Fix Version/s: 1.2
(was: 1.x)
+1 to make the change (pending tck verification)
-dain
On Jul 14, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Rick McGuire wrote:
I've been taking some hard looks at all of the places where
Geronimo creates/configures ORB instances as part of an effort to
enable Geronimo for using the Yoko ORB. As a result, I've
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1524?page=comments#action_12421201
]
Donald Woods commented on GERONIMO-1524:
Verified that Geronimo-1524.2.patch can be applied to the latest 1.1.1-SNAPSHOT
branch.
Verified that the DB
We've been letting the GBuild builds push out the Maven 1 artifacts.
I was just working on getting the javamail spec into gbuild, since
this is killing the Geronimo 1.2 build.
We need some process for getting Maven 2 artifacts deployed. Jason,
didn't you have some ideas on how to get that
Agreed.
--kevan
On Jul 14, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
+1 to make the change (pending tck verification)
-dain
On Jul 14, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Rick McGuire wrote:
I've been taking some hard looks at all of the places where
Geronimo creates/configures ORB instances as part of an
On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:47 AM, Greg Wilkins wrote:
This is my idea of how we could morph the currently proposed
session APIs
into a cluster API.
I have created a spot for Cluster meta data - but I have not filled
it out much.
The key difference is that the state Map is now indexed by
I think we are starting to agree. I see the session manager as a
high level component that *can* be implemented on top of a cluster or
just be a local hash map. The idea was to create an abstraction such
that, the people writing clustering code can easily plugin into
geronimo services
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1182?page=all ]
Joe Bohn updated GERONIMO-1182:
---
Summary: Connector portlet delete challenge (was: Connector portlet
improvement (delete connector confirmation, more form buttons))
Issue Type:
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1492?page=comments#action_12421213
]
Paul McMahan commented on GERONIMO-1492:
The attached patch (GERONIMO-1492-1.patch) removes all org/apache/geronimo
configIds found by the grep
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1492?page=comments#action_12421214
]
Paul McMahan commented on GERONIMO-1492:
start the console and you should no longer see the system-database listed in
the started application
Can we set message timeout in a stomp client in the situations where
STOMP client is trying to send a message and because of network issues
(FIREWALL or something else) it cant not reach to the AMQ server.
So instead of trying to send the message indefinitely STOMP client
process will terminate.
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2188?page=comments#action_12421227
]
Donald Woods commented on GERONIMO-2188:
Attaching source email thread from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Original Message
Subject: Re:
Rafael, are you wanting to use Ant to run the Geronimo build, start/stop
Geronimo, deploy apps into Geronimo, ...?
I have a working sample of the first (starting Geronimo build from Ant).
-Donald
Aaron Mulder wrote:
What kind of application are you working on? (e.g. WAR, EAR, EJBs,
etc.)
applied to a custom 2.2-
SNAPSHOT version of the maven-assembly-plugin to build out assemblies.
The full conversation is here if anyone is interested:
http://uwyn.com/drone/log/bevinbot/geronimo/20060714
Starts with '19:53 jdillon any thoughts on using dependency +
antrun to setup
I have not had a chance to look into this more.
I'm going to ping repository@ and see what the current official
locations are for m2 artifacts (release + snapshot + sync to central).
--jason
On Jul 14, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
We've been letting the GBuild builds push out
[RTC] Support mixed nested properties and complex elements
--
Key: XBEAN-24
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-24
Project: XBean
Issue Type: New Feature
Thanks.
BTW, the new Javamail 1.3.1 spec has been built on continuum. It
should be synced up w/ people.apache.org, shortly...
--kevan
On Jul 14, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:
I have not had a chance to look into this more.
I'm going to ping repository@ and see what the current
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-24?page=all ]
Dain Sundstrom updated XBEAN-24:
Attachment: mixed-content.patch
[RTC] Support mixed nested properties and complex elements
--
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-24?page=comments#action_12421232 ]
Dain Sundstrom commented on XBEAN-24:
-
This patch also runs inline properties through getValue so #refs work although
there is no test for it.
[RTC] Support
What URL on people.* ?
--jason
On Jul 14, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
Thanks.
BTW, the new Javamail 1.3.1 spec has been built on continuum. It
should be synced up w/ people.apache.org, shortly...
--kevan
On Jul 14, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:
I have not had a
On Jul 14, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:
What URL on people.* ?
The M1 SNAPSHOT repo -- http://people.apache.org/repository/
org.apache.geronimo.specs/jars/
It's not there yet. I'm not sure how frequent the rsync runs...
--kevan
--jason
On Jul 14, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Kevan
Hi Sunil,
In Geronimo 1.1 you can add a jar to a shared library in Geronimo by
doing the following:
- Add your jars into this location: geronimo-install-root/var/shared/lib
- Add the following dependency into your geronimo deployment plan:
environment
dependencies
[RTC] Support for #null short hand for a null value
---
Key: XBEAN-25
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-25
Project: XBean
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: spring
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-25?page=all ]
Dain Sundstrom updated XBEAN-25:
Attachment: #null.patch
[RTC] Support for #null short hand for a null value
---
Key: XBEAN-25
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-25?page=comments#action_12421238 ]
Dain Sundstrom commented on XBEAN-25:
-
Note this patch contains 4 new files which will need to be svn added.
[RTC] Support for #null short hand for a null
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-24?page=comments#action_12421241 ]
Jason Dillon commented on XBEAN-24:
---
I'm a tad confused... this is considered a property:
{noformat}
size 17
{noformat}
I can see:
{noformat}
size: 17
I will apply this to m2migration once we have the latest specs
published to the m2 repo.
Else we will have to bootstrap the specs... :-(
--jason
On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: rickmcguire
Date: Fri Jul 14 04:26:41 2006
New Revision: 421872
URL:
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-24?page=comments#action_12421251 ]
Jeff Genender commented on XBEAN-24:
+1...this patch looks good to me.
[RTC] Support mixed nested properties and complex elements
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-24?page=comments#action_12421252 ]
Dain Sundstrom commented on XBEAN-24:
-
Jason this code didn't add the nested properties files support, but only adds
support for mixed complex elements in the
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-24?page=comments#action_12421253 ]
Jason Dillon commented on XBEAN-24:
---
Mmkay. I did not realize that Properties.load() supported whitespace as a
delim.
It looks good to me... forgive my
Hi,
I have been trying for 4 weeks to created a server wide datasource
connecting to a mysql database. I have then updated the web.xml and
geronimo-web.xml. however, when i access my web app (servlet) i'm receiving
a: javax.naming.NameNotFoundException: enc/jdbc/Datasource
at
MASSEMBLY-45 or MASSEMBLY-127 applied to a custom 2.2-
SNAPSHOT version of the maven-assembly-plugin to build out
assemblies.
The full conversation is here if anyone is interested:
http://uwyn.com/drone/log/bevinbot/geronimo/20060714
Starts with '19:53 jdillon any thoughts on using
On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:30 PM, anita kulshreshtha wrote:
Would it not be simpler to use the patched version of m-a-p and
just
rename it to geronimo-assembly2-plugin and add it to our code base?
I do not believe so. The use of the dependency + antrun plugins are
relatively limited.
Both
[RTC] Nested properties not evaluated for named constructor args
Key: XBEAN-26
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-26
Project: XBean
Issue Type: Bug
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-26?page=all ]
Dain Sundstrom updated XBEAN-26:
Attachment: named-constructor-arg-fixes.patch
[RTC] Nested properties not evaluated for named constructor args
Recently I have been working on adding new features and bug fixes to
the xbean-spring code. This code is a lot harder to work with since
the test have been coppied into the v1 and v2 modules. It actually
make it very easy to make a change in v1 and not apply the same
change to v2 since
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
I think we are starting to agree.
agreed :-)
I think that a Cluster interface with the stateless methods as proposed by
filip would be
good, plus a SessionManager interface with the stateful stuff.
Actually, I don't like SessionManager as a name... maybe StateManager?
That is my code and it should be removed. I only added it for
debugging when working on configId branch.
-dain
On Jul 14, 2006, at 12:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: jdillon
Date: Fri Jul 14 12:18:04 2006
New Revision: 421991
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=421991view=rev
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBEAN-3?page=comments#action_12421262 ]
Dain Sundstrom commented on XBEAN-3:
QDox 1.6 is working for in OpenEJB 3 me but there are still some things it
doesn't handle correctly like the operator.
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 10:30:53AM -0700, Jason Dillon wrote:
How did this go? Looks like issues is running 3.6.3-DEV-ASF-#156...
does this fix the wiki bits?
Yes. I've just reenabled wiki syntax for GERONIMO and GBUILD.
I don't see the tools plugin or the graph plugin though :-( Are
car:installConfigs... but we no longer need
to have MASSEMBLY-45 or MASSEMBLY-127 applied to a custom 2.2-
SNAPSHOT version of the maven-assembly-plugin to build out assemblies.
The full conversation is here if anyone is interested:
http://uwyn.com/drone/log/bevinbot/geronimo/20060714
Starts
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
Recently I have been working on adding new features and bug fixes to
the xbean-spring code. This code is a lot harder to work with since
the test have been coppied into the v1 and v2 modules. It actually
make it very easy to make a change in v1 and not apply the same
IMO, I think that the m2migration branch should focus solely on m2
migration and leave the cruft cleaning for another effort.
Regards,
Alan
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
That is my code and it should be removed. I only added it for
debugging when working on configId branch.
-dain
On Jul 14,
+1 but, I would classify it as a bug fix not a change.
Regards,
Alan
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
+1 to make the change (pending tck verification)
-dain
On Jul 14, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Rick McGuire wrote:
I've been taking some hard looks at all of the places where Geronimo
creates/configures ORB
:
http://uwyn.com/drone/log/bevinbot/geronimo/20060714
Starts with '19:53 jdillon any thoughts on using dependency +
antrun to setup the right bits and then use the 2.1 assembly plugin?'
--jason
to have MASSEMBLY-45 or MASSEMBLY-127 applied to a custom 2.2-
SNAPSHOT version of the maven-assembly-plugin to build out assemblies.
The full conversation is here if anyone is interested:
http://uwyn.com/drone/log/bevinbot/geronimo/20060714
Starts with '19:53 jdillon any thoughts
+1 ...good detective work Rick.
Rick McGuire wrote:
I've been taking some hard looks at all of the places where Geronimo
creates/configures ORB instances as part of an effort to enable Geronimo
for using the Yoko ORB. As a result, I've made an interesting discovery
about how CSSBean is
I'll take a look at that tomorrow Kevan.
Kevan Miller wrote:
It looks like we didn't release geronimo-spec-corba-1.0.jar when we
released the last round of geronimo specs. The only repo in which I can
find the jar is people.apache.org/repository
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2189?page=all ]
Matt Hogstrom reassigned GERONIMO-2189:
---
Assignee: Matt Hogstrom
Release geronimo-spec-corba-1.0.jar to ibiblio
--
Key:
Jan,
I've been travelling a bit lately and haven't gotten 1.1.1 off the ground. I think the 1.2
discussion is pretty important.
I'll start a thread for 1.2 on content and let's flush out the time from that.
Jan Bartel wrote:
Now that 1.1 is out the door (BTW congrats everyone) ... time to
All,
Its time to start defining the content of what everyone is planning on doing for 1.2. The biggest
change so far that I'm aware of are the refactoring of OEJB by Dain and the Maven 2 work done by
JDillon, Prasad, Anita and others. Not too much content from an end-user perspective. I
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2184?page=all ]
Matt Hogstrom closed GERONIMO-2184.
---
Resolution: Fixed
This is a duplicate of 2128
Geronimo/Openejb does not support all isolation levels
Eclipse project names not generated consistently
Key: GERONIMO-2194
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2194
Project: Geronimo
Issue Type: Bug
Security Level: public
We've got a great maven 2 plugin for running brokers and performance
test producers and consumers that will generate nice reports...
http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/activemq-performance-module-users-manual.html
We should be able to setup automated performance test runs on
different
Incorect handling of message size in ByteArrayOutputStream::write
-
Key: AMQ-823
URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-823
Project: ActiveMQ
Issue Type: Bug
I just downloaded and unzipped this file OK
http://people.apache.org/maven-snapshot-repository/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT/apache-servicemix-3.0-incubating-20060620.224738-1-src.zip
which file did you have trouble with? You could try the tar.gz if the
zip
network clogging when service mix runs
--
Key: SM-487
URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/SM-487
Project: ServiceMix
Issue Type: Bug
Affects Versions: 3.0-M1, 3.0-M2, 3.0
Hi All,
I'm a new user/developer of servicemix.. I recently built servicemix on my
computer... my question is fairly straight forward (I hope)... how do I
package up the files that I've built so that I can install and test them?
I'm trying:
mvn package
which is not working on my machine...
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