ahm no, when you read the complete paraghraph...
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E. What to do in case of doubt?
Decisions of Moderators are subject to review by the PMC and
anyone who
feels that a Moderator's discretion was abused can escalate
by sending
an email to the PMC at
Hi Michael,
On 24/09/14 19:13, RA Stehmann wrote:
On 24.09.2014 10:50, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
[...]
I don't want to protect trolls, but there are different meanings about
how to handle the problem.
I only refuse the way of acting Jörg wants to dictate me.
I am dictating here nothing.
Hello,
I unfortunately do not understand the situation.
I have here) asked on the list because Michael himself refused for months a
decision. We have discussed the troll problem on the German list often, just
nothing has improved. We have currently discussed by PM and also because
Michael
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:25 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
My question is:
Are the instructions on the following page valid:
http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html
They are valid.
If so, then I'll make an
Am 09/26/2014 11:25 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
My question is:
Are the instructions on the following page valid:
http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html
They are valid.
If so, then I'll make an official request to the PMC, and
ask
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
See http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html and if I were the
But I think the first step is to discuss conduct guidelines and get
agreement within the German community that these are the terms you
want to and agree to work with, and that
On 24/09/2014 RA Stehmann wrote:
And I'm not willing to ban someone without the accordance of my
co-moderator. There are good reasons, why mailing lists have to have two
moderators.
The good reason in this case is responsiveness: we appoint 2+ moderator
to increase the chances that one is
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:14:06 +0200
RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
On 24.09.2014 09:33, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
Hello,
What is the situation?
On one of the project mailing lists (users...@openoffice.apache.org), a
moderator refuses to act against a troll.
To make
-Original Message-
From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:14 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which project Instance has jurisdiction in disputes?
On 24.09.2014 09:33, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
Hello,
What
From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
It would be helpful if you or Jörg would set out the
alternatives available.
The correct procedure would be to remove the troll from the mailing list. This
causes no disadvantage, because the troll does not contribute to OpenOffice.
On 24.09.2014 10:50, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
I'm the moderator, Jörg means. The other moderator of that list is
Raphael, member of our PMC.
I don't want to protect trolls, but there are different meanings about
how to handle the problem.
I only refuse the way of acting Jörg wants to dictate
RA Stehmann wrote:
I only refuse the way of acting Jörg wants to instruct me.
We discussed that topic on the list. To ban an email address isn't very
effective, because that person is able to join the mailing list with
another email address.
If the two of you disagree on how to handle a troll,
From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]
We discussed that topic on the list. To ban an email address
isn't very
effective, because that person is able to join the mailing list with
another email address.
I explained very carefully, we are _not_ talking about _any_ troll
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
If the two of you disagree on how to handle a troll, the
troll wins, you
two lose, and the project loses
yes, it is.
The concrete troll harms the list therefore particularly because he does not
tell jokes, but because it gives wrong
On 24.09.2014 13:45, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]
We discussed that topic on the list. To ban an email address
isn't very
effective, because that person is able to join the mailing list with
another email address.
I explained very
From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]
Maybe the troll's name is known, but nobody in the internet knows that
you are a dog.
I have full administrative access in the forum, I know the email of the Trolls
and I know his IP (at a given time).
So I do not know the real
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
RA Stehmann wrote:
I only refuse the way of acting Jörg wants to instruct me.
We discussed that topic on the list. To ban an email address isn't very
effective, because that person is able to join the mailing list
Am 09/24/2014 01:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
If he makes zero useful posts, just ban him and get rid of the problem.
Sure he can register with a new address, and this is why Michael is
correct in saying that people should really learn to ignore posts and
not having public discussions on
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:50:58 +0200
Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Am 09/24/2014 01:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
If he makes zero useful posts, just ban him and get rid of the problem.
Sure he can register with a new address, and this is why Michael is
correct in saying that people
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