Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> I think basically, we could start the official vote on the dev for > graduation? > PPMC and dev team, WDYT? +1, cool. If no other questions, I will sent official vote mail tomorrow. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年3月4日周三

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, The original powered by page[1] has changed to users page[2]. [1] https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/poweredby/ [2] https://shardingsphere.apache.org/community/en/users/ -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Strange 3rd party service. We may could send a mail to ask what the service vendor could do to fix this? But at least, this doesn't look like a block to me. I think basically, we could start the official vote on the dev for graduation? PPMC and dev team, WDYT? Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I check the website https://jitpack.io, it looks like they[1] crawling the releases from GitHub directly, and then shade the groupId and artifactId by their own rule. The repo `dangdangdotcom/sharding-jdbc` is the previous repo before entering incubator, we just transferred the repo to

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Justin, Thanks for your prompt feedback, which always provides us valuable instructions. It seems like items currently remaining Errata is not a big issue, and the more critical case is the brand thing. Besides, to make the website more 'Apache' is another improvement. Make sense, and we

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

This domain [1] is created by 2019-06-28T10:15:48Z, which is after entering the incubator. The website has no relationship with Apache ShardingSphere. Do we need to do anything about it? [1] http://shardingsphere.io -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Justin

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, IMO it's not immediately obvious from the project web site that this is an Apache project. It probably meets the minimum requirements but it would be nice to see more than that. Thanks, Justin

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, > 1 Project does not have 'commits' mailing list You have notifications@ so that fine. > 2 Has not provided an issue tracker link You have this well documented on your website, so not a big issue, but it’s also easy to fix. > 3 Has not provided a wiki link You have a wiki [1] and can

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hello folks, With the help of the community (Specially thinks to Yue Zhao), Podling Website Check page[1] said the status of our website is healthy. However, three items below still stay in Errata of the incubator status page[2]. The 2nd to 3rd items have joined our website[3][4], and my

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Liang, Yes, you are right, fixed. I have also double checked all files to make sure there are no more problems now. -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShardingSphere zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月27日周四 上午12:01写道： > Hi, Yonglun > > I still find apache website url in OpenSharding repo[1], we should

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, Yonglun I still find apache website url in OpenSharding repo[1], we should remove them too. [1] https://github.com/OpenSharding/opensharding-spi-impl/blob/master/pom.xml -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Zhang Yonglun 于2020年2月26日周三 下午11:18写道： > Hi

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Justin, Are you changing code to the package "io.opensharding" inside the project > or outside of it? I'm unclear what you are changing here. We changed the package name inside the project via the commit

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, > The 3 projects are ALv2, but some dependencies include LGPL (for example: > hibernate[1]), and some similar codes (about SQL revert) are patent > declared by other company, we cannot make decision merge or not for now. It might be best if they make that clear and that they contain things

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

The 3 projects of OpenSharding are just minor extensions of ShardingSphere, no big impact if we remove them. We can talk about to remove them. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月26日周三 下午12:31写道： > Hi, > > > All three repos claim

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, > All three repos claim to be under the ALv2, is this not the case? The 3 projects are ALv2, but some dependencies include LGPL (for example: hibernate[1]), and some similar codes (about SQL revert) are patent declared by other company, we cannot make decision merge or not for now. > And I

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, > The projects of OpenSharding repo[1] are some extensions and plugins of > ShardingSphere, they have license and copyright issues which are not > suitable for apache project. All three repos claim to be under the ALv2, is this not the case? And I still don't see why you would change

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Good to me. Justin, what do you think? Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月26日周三 上午11:47写道： > The projects of OpenSharding repo[1] are some extensions and plugins of > ShardingSphere, they have license and copyright issues which are not > suitable for apache

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

The projects of OpenSharding repo[1] are some extensions and plugins of ShardingSphere, they have license and copyright issues which are not suitable for apache project. I have already remove the logo, organization description, website and mail list for this repo. This repo may regard as a

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi I have the same question, why it can't be closed? I look through the projects in it, it seems either example or plugin. Why should they move into the ASF repo? The other thing is the org avatar is a branding issue. Also with mail list/website referring to the ASF site, which is not right.

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

HI, > - Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name > `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. [DONE] Why not org.apache.shardingsphere? > [1] https://github.com/OpenSharding This seems a little confusing "Distributed database middleware, repo transfer to

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi folks, > - Update incubator status site[3]. [DOING] To make our website line with Apache way, we need to add some links, copyright, trademark and disclaimer to our website. This sub-task is underway, you can learn more referring to [1]. - [1]

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Tasks status update: - Remove author information in java code. [DONE] - Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. [DONE] - Major contributors sign ICLA. [DONE] - Discuss PMC list. [DONE] - Podling name search[2].

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I am doing the podling name search, the JIRA ticket[1]. [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-178 -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Juan Pan 于2020年2月20日周四 下午2:05写道： > Hi Justin, > > > Very appreciated your time to give us some valuable

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Justin, Very appreciated your time to give us some valuable feedback and suggestions. We will take time to visit those links and pay attention to the issues you mentioned.:-) Best wishes, Trista Juan Pan (Trista) Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> I think the next step is to prepare the graduation resolution from this > page[1]? And ask all community to vote about that? > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/shardingsphere Got it, I will create the graduation resolution draft for a new thread -- Liang Zhang (John)

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Thanks, Liang Zhang and Honglun. I think the next step is to prepare the graduation resolution from this page[1]? And ask all community to vote about that? [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/shardingsphere Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月17日周一 下午3:05写道：

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

All tasks finished, lists: - Remove author information in java code. [DONE] - Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. [DONE] - Major contributors sign ICLA. [DONE] - Discuss PMC list. [DONE] - Update incubator

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> I found one missing step. > The incubator status page[1] requires to update. Including the news about > new committer, PMC and release. > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/shardingsphere.html SVN done, waiting for web-site update -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Done of remove author from java doc. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月17日周一 下午3:01写道： > > I found one missing step. > > The incubator status page[1] requires to update. Including the news about > > new committer, PMC and

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> > - Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name > `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. [TODO] I've just finished this part. All the remain tasks cleared now. -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShardingSphere Zhang Yonglun 于2020年2月15日周六 下午8:35写道： > I will

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi I found one missing step. The incubator status page[1] requires to update. Including the news about new committer, PMC and release. [1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/shardingsphere.html Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Zhang Yonglun 于2020年2月15日周六 下午8:35写道： > I will change the

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I will change the name `io.shardingsphere` to `io.opensharding` in OpenSharding. -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShardingSphere zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月15日周六 下午5:59写道： > Remain tasks: > > - Remove author information in java code. [TODO] > > - Some remain codes[1] still using the old package

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

The preparation process for graduation is clear now, anything i can help, please tell me. Thanks. Juan Pan (Trista) Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating) E-mail: panj...@apache.org On 02/15/2020 17:58，zhangli...@apache.org wrote： Remain tasks:

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

+1 from me to remove them from PMC, and thanks for the contribution they did. Juan Pan (Trista) Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating) E-mail: panj...@apache.org On 02/15/2020 13:52，zhangli...@apache.org wrote： Ling Yue and Yongsheng Peng have no

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Remain tasks: - Remove author information in java code. [TODO] - Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. [TODO] - Major contributors sign ICLA. [DONE] - Discuss PMC list. [DONE] [1]

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> I am OK to remove them from the PMC list. But maybe keep them in the committer? At least, they used to contribute to the community a lot. Agree. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Sheng Wu 于2020年2月15日周六 下午2:12写道： > I am OK to remove them from the PMC list.

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I am OK to remove them from the PMC list. But maybe keep them in the committer? At least, they used to contribute to the community a lot. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月15日周六 下午1:53写道： > Ling Yue and Yongsheng Peng have no response for the invitation and they

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Ling Yue and Yongsheng Peng have no response for the invitation and they do not interest during ShardingSphere incubating, how about remove them from PMC and committer list? Other person will be the member of ShardingSphere PMC. Any suggestion? -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

The invitation has finished, I paste the result here: Invitation result: Like to be the member of ShardingSphere PMC: - Liang Zhang - Hongtao Gao - Sheng Wu - Juan Pan - Jun Zhao - Yi Yang - Yonglun Zhang - Gosling Von - Gosling Von - QingYang Chen - Willem Jiang - Hongjun Du - Xiaoguang Ma

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I agree with that, the current important task to gather all members to build a group and I have replied to that mail. And I'm going to share my work through the public channels, for instance, mail list and issue. Let more members know what am I doing or will do. Thanks, Hongtao Craig Russell

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Agree. I think Liang asked the PPMC about whether any of them wants to step down or keep in the PMC team. Let's wait for their response. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Craig Russell 于2020年2月12日周三 上午12:29写道： > Hi Sheng Wu, > > No objection from me. The important thing is to review all

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Hongtao Gao, Obviously I was unaware of your contributions to the community. The important thing is to review all contributions and decide as a group. Best regards, Craig > On Feb 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Hongtao Gao wrote: > > Hi Craig > My current work is more on propagation of

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Sheng Wu, No objection from me. The important thing is to review all contributions and decide as a group. Best regards, Craig > On Feb 10, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Sheng Wu wrote: > > Craig Russell mailto:apache@gmail.com>> > 于2020年2月11日周二 下午12:57写道： > >> Hi, >> >> Maybe I'm misreading

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> Just a suggestion: If you want only people who are paying attention, you > could start a doc with the graduation proposal and ask folks on the dev@ list > to add their names if they are interested in becoming part of the PMC. +1, kind reminder to them and listen to each PPMC's wish to be

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> Just a suggestion: If you want only people who are paying attention, you could start a doc with the graduation proposal and ask folks on the dev@ list to add their names if they are interested in becoming part of the PMC. Done by thread [1] [1]

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Craig Russell 于2020年2月11日周二 下午12:57写道： > Hi, > > Maybe I'm misreading the sheet but it looks like Ling Yue and Hongtao Gao > have not contributed anything to the project. It looks like they have not > been active on mail lists either. If this is true, I'd probably remove them > from the proposed

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Craig My current work is more on propagation of ShardingSphere, including off-site meetings and talks in some professional conferences (There will be one in June 2020). And next week I will send a proposal in dev mail list about the k8s controller of shardingshpere, which is talked with some

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi, Maybe I'm misreading the sheet but it looks like Ling Yue and Hongtao Gao have not contributed anything to the project. It looks like they have not been active on mail lists either. If this is true, I'd probably remove them from the proposed PMC. Include them as committers if they had

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I agree to remove Yongsheng Peng and always welcome him come back when he feel free. Other initial PPMC had contributed before ShardingSphere go to incubator, I prefer keep them and let them as PMC in future. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Sheng Wu

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi >From my reading of this data, all initial PPMC and current committers are/were contributing to the project a lot with only one exception, Yongsheng Peng. He is SkyWalking's PMC, used to ask contributions to the ShardingSphere, so he was added when the project joined the incubator. But during

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Sure, please see google excel doc. [1] [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19U4t0rAnLbQW02qZlZ1lwZCB7sZxGUiMMmv8zEpee9g/edit?usp=sharing -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Sheng Wu 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:14写道： > Liang > > Could you change this to a google

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Liang Could you change this to a google excel doc? The email is hard to read. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:12写道： > The statistics after incubator: > > PPMCs: > > | *Name*| *Mails* | *Assigned Issues* | *Merged PRs* | *Code > ++* | *Code

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

The statistics after incubator: PPMCs: | *Name*| *Mails* | *Assigned Issues* | *Merged PRs* | *Code ++* | *Code --* | *Doc ++* | *Doc --* | | - | --- | - | | - | - | | | | Hao Cao | 6 |

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月6日周四 上午2:00写道： > Before I list all PPMCs and committers, we need to discuss the rule of how > to define `inactive` PPMC. > > The rules maybe: > > - Stop contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator. > If there are initial PPMCs staying in this way, I prefer

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

+1. The statistics reflects the activity of PPMC. -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShardingSphere zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年2月6日周四 上午11:28写道： > I can statistics some data for all PPMCs and committers, which can > include count of mails, issues, pull requests, code addition and deletion > after we

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

+1 It’s better to include our docs, example, benchmark repository for statistics, not just the shardngspere branch -- Zhao Jun (cherrylzhao) Apache ShardingSphere & ServiceComb > On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Juan Pan wrote: > > I think it is ok. > > > If one PPMC was not

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I think it is ok. If one PPMC was not active(need to discuss the definition) in our mail list, or community, including voting release, nominating new committer, reviewing PRs or do other contribution over half year(i guess) or more after entering into incubator, that means he could not

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I can statistics some data for all PPMCs and committers, which can include count of mails, issues, pull requests, code addition and deletion after we goto incubator, and can statistics last contribution time, does the statistics enough? -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Before I list all PPMCs and committers, we need to discuss the rule of how to define `inactive` PPMC. The rules maybe: - Stop contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator. - Rare contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator. We need to define how to define `rare` too. - Stop

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Zonglei Dong 于2020年2月5日周三 下午9:19写道： > Hi Sheng, Liang, > > > As a committer, I want to take on greater responsibility, make more > contribution to ShardingSphere and take better practice for Apache Way in > the future. > > > I understand some permissions only for PMC(or PPMC), e.g release new >

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Sheng, Liang, As a committer, I want to take on greater responsibility, make more contribution to ShardingSphere and take better practice for Apache Way in the future. I understand some permissions only for PMC(or PPMC), e.g release new version, Does there are any difference between PMC

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to become PMC. ALL in or not? Do you have the list? I think if some of them stop contributing to the project after joining the incubator, I could exclude those. > I nominate myself as project VP because my responsibility is monthly

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all current committers > as committers too. I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to become PMC. ALL in or not? Juan Pan (Trista) Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I want discuss about project VP, PMC and committer list after graduation. I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all current committers as committers too. The almost committers are new guys for ShardingSphere, they may need more experiences for open source community governance, we

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

> Got it, it means those threads are not block for our graduation, and could be done anytime. Yes -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Juan Pan 于2020年1月20日周一 上午10:14写道： > Got it, it means those threads are not block for our graduation, and could > be done

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Got it, it means those threads are not block for our graduation, and could be done anytime. Juan Pan (Trista) Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating) E-mail: panj...@apache.org On 01/19/2020 10:37，Sheng Wu wrote： As far as those docs and examples

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

As far as those docs and examples already in the Apache repos, I think those are irrelavent. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Juan Pan 于2020年1月19日周日 上午10:30写道： > +1 Agreeing to put graduation into our upcoming agenda. BTW, do you think > we need finish the work discussed in other thread,

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

+1 Agreeing to put graduation into our upcoming agenda. BTW, do you think we need finish the work discussed in other thread, like moving doc and example repos to ShardingSphere repo? Juan Pan (Trista) Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating) E-mail:

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

I list remain issues here: 1. Remove author information in java code, copyright should belong to ASF. 2. Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. 3. Let the major contributors to sign

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

>From my perspective, we should. Like I said in another thread. I think we should be ready to consider and filter whether we have left any issue before graduation. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 zhangli...@apache.org 于2020年1月17日周五 下午3:10写道： > Hello community, > > > I'd like to talk about

Re: Talk about graduation as TLP for Apache ShardingSphere(Incubator)

Hi Liang, In my opinion, we could start to consider about graduate after chinese spring Fastvial. According to community activity report, this is a community that has matured and can be active for very long time. Graduation means that the community is entering a new stage and bringing new