I've talked with Bertrand yesterday during the adaptto and we agreed to use
the model approach and we also agreed on using YAML. I'll update the
current implementation and then we can discuss the details.
Carsten
2014-09-23 22:08 GMT+02:00 Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org:
Maybe I try to
I've added a first simple parser for the crankstart format, it supports
classpath, bundles and configuration for now.
Now, the major difference between crankstart and all other models is that
crankstart describes actions - most of them (like the above, start level
changes, osgi properties) can be
2014-09-23 8:27 GMT+02:00 Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org:
I've added a first simple parser for the crankstart format, it supports
classpath, bundles and configuration for now.
Now, the major difference between crankstart and all other models is that
crankstart describes actions - most
Hi Chetan
Am 22.09.2014 um 19:05 schrieb Chetan Mehrotra chetan.mehro...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org
wrote:
Right, but there is nothing specific we have to do in the model about it.
You need a way to inject this stuff on deployment, and
2014-09-23 10:34 GMT+02:00 Felix Meschberger fmesc...@adobe.com:
Hi Chetan
Am 22.09.2014 um 19:05 schrieb Chetan Mehrotra chetan.mehro...@gmail.com
:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org
wrote:
Right, but there is nothing specific we have to do in the
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote:
I think we need a new approach to describe a deliverable or installation
As we see in this thread we still have diverging views on how this
should work - I have created
Looking at the requirements mentioned at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SLING/Sling+NG+Launcher, the
first five bullet points are exactly what is covered by the model - except
that it is using maven style coordinates instead of urls - but with mvn:
urls this would be equivalent. Maven
And we have to think about whether we continue to support web application
creation?
Carsten
2014-09-23 15:31 GMT+02:00 Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org:
Looking at the requirements mentioned at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SLING/Sling+NG+Launcher, the
first five bullet
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote:
I've added a first simple parser for the crankstart format, it supports
classpath, bundles and configuration for now.
BTW what's wrong with Crankstart itself?
It meets most requirements at [1] so we might also base
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Felix Meschberger fmesc...@adobe.com wrote:
Am 22.09.2014 um 15:47 schrieb Chetan Mehrotra chetan.mehro...@gmail.com:
... 2. Property Interpolation - Ability to substitute property values via
system property, env variables [1]
I think in this case we explicitly
I think we're already pretty close :) My major conern at the moment is the
java model and the merge of two models. If we can agree on that we can
built different tools on top of it and they can behave differently but use
a consistent model.
Carsten
2014-09-23 15:16 GMT+02:00 Bertrand Delacretaz
I'm not talking about the launcher, crankstart as a launcher is totally
fine.
I'm just talking about a model to describe the installation itself.
Carsten
2014-09-23 15:38 GMT+02:00 Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Felix Meschberger fmesc...@adobe.com
Maybe I try to explain the basics of my idea again :)
Right now, we have the launchpad which is configured in many different
files, it's maven based and produces a runnable jar and a web application.
My primary goal is to have the possibility to define a single file
containing all the
Hi,
2014-09-22 7:40 GMT+02:00 Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org:
I agree, and the Crankstart launcher [1] is exactly about this. But you're
right that agreeing on the *model* that describes the Sling instances is
much more important than whatever code interprets this model.
Right,
I just renamed subsystem to deliverable. It's better to avoid the term
subsystem as this might get confused with OSGi subsystem. This model can be
used to define subsystems though of course.
And I also renamed run mode to feature - and feature is tied to run modes.
This entity is usually called
Hi Carsten,
It would be good if following features can be supported in some form
1. Composition - Ability to include other slingstart file via various
url schemes file, http etc. Need to define how the included config
would be treated if collisions are found
2. Property Interpolation - Ability
Hi
Am 22.09.2014 um 15:47 schrieb Chetan Mehrotra chetan.mehro...@gmail.com:
Hi Carsten,
It would be good if following features can be supported in some form
1. Composition - Ability to include other slingstart file via various
url schemes file, http etc. Need to define how the included
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Felix Meschberger fmesc...@adobe.com wrote:
I think in this case we explicitly don’t want this: Also, this is not the
same as the case for 12factor configuration: This is basically just a packing
list to create a quick start. This is a build time task which
Hi
Am 22.09.2014 um 17:09 schrieb Chetan Mehrotra chetan.mehro...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Felix Meschberger fmesc...@adobe.com wrote:
I think in this case we explicitly don’t want this: Also, this is not the
same as the case for 12factor configuration: This is basically
Hi Chetan,
2014-09-22 15:47 GMT+02:00 Chetan Mehrotra chetan.mehro...@gmail.com:
Hi Carsten,
It would be good if following features can be supported in some form
1. Composition - Ability to include other slingstart file via various
url schemes file, http etc. Need to define how the
2014-09-22 17:13 GMT+02:00 Felix Meschberger fmesc...@adobe.com:
Hi
Am 22.09.2014 um 17:09 schrieb Chetan Mehrotra chetan.mehro...@gmail.com
:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Felix Meschberger fmesc...@adobe.com
wrote:
I think in this case we explicitly don’t want this: Also, this is
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote:
Right, but there is nothing specific we have to do in the model about it.
You need a way to inject this stuff on deployment, and this can be done
with merging a deployment model into this model. And I guess there are
On 21.09.2014, at 22:40, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
I much prefer structured text formats (either plain text or yaml) over XML
for such things, as they're more friendly to hack and especially more
diff-friendly which is very important in a devops view.
I agree, we
Hi Carsten,
On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org
wrote:
I think we need a new approach to describe a deliverable or
installation...
...It would be great to have all the
information in a single place to make it more understandable but also to
allow for new ways
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