this change upstream and
then, there wouldn't be a debate about this here. Otherwise, make
ddate a sub package and don't install it by default. Solved?
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On 08/29/2011 07:46 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Otherwise, make
ddate a sub package and don't install it by default. Solved?
As an upstream the willingness of distributions to strip out commands
which I wanted to provide and don't
the overhead).
Many of us still have to deal with systems which don't have as much RAM
and it is a problem that Anaconda takes up so much more memory than what
a system uses post-installation. 256 MB would be ok. 512 MB is
acceptable. Anything beyond that seems excessive.
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Graphical interface to crontab and at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733572
Was retired in Fedora earlier due to dependency on applet. Latest
upstream disables applet by default.
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On 08/22/2011 03:01 AM, Kai Engert wrote:
On 20.08.2011 13:59, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/20/2011 03:57 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Putting Firefox maintainers on CC to have a definite word on this, but
I suspect that Seamonkey is generally completely in the arms of
community. I guess if anybody
this is being done for fun is insulting. Stop doing that.
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for a particular release,
and if backporting the fix would be impractical, then a package may be
rebased onto a version that upstream supports. The definition of
practicality is left to the judgement of FESCO and the packager.
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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy
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On 08/24/2011 02:04 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
is this a good reason ?
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/08/23/1355225/The-GIMP-Now-Has-a-Working-Single-Window-Mode
Not to push a unstable release without knowing when the stable release
will be.
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is not acceptable. It is ok
to disagree on technical matters but you have gone well beyond that in
this mail.
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On 08/21/2011 09:34 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi,
in F15 I could install pdfedit by yum. Anybody knows when this will be
possible in F16?
It has been orphaned
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/pdfedit
So unless someone takes over, no
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attention to this matter only now but I can't consider this as a
serious proposal.
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are serious about your proposal, you are welcome to do the same.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy
I don't see how it is going to fly however.
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. No instructions on regenerating it. Has interesting
things like %define _unpackaged_files_terminate_build 0 and %define
_use_internal_dependency_generator 0. Patches don't have comments in
the spec etc.Anyone know the current status?
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right?
I dont know what community means in this context. Everything is in
the hands of the community in Fedora but the question is who is
maintaining it? Apparently, noone is keeping it updated. If so,
orphan it properly
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On 08/17/2011 08:47 PM, Tim Waugh wrote:
I'll leave cups.service out because that's only required for
network-enabled configurations -- but perhaps that needs a release
note? Tim. */
Yes. You can add it here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Printing_Beat
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Did you talk to upstream about taking it over? Do they suggest
alternatives?
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On 08/13/2011 09:30 PM, Heiko Adams wrote:
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Hash: SHA256
Hi,
is it just me or is wicd unuseable due to several SELinux erors until
NetworkManager gets remove completely from the system?
What SELinux errors? Do you have a bug report?
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Feel free to edit the wiki directly or reply here for any additions or
corrections
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Alpha_release_announcement
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, if you'd
like to test that.
Isn't this just a snapshot? In that case, the package should follow the
standard naming guidelines
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:NamingGuidelines#Pre-Release_packages
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to upstream and figure out if all these options are equally
well supported? That would determine if you want to build sub packages
for all or not
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and he is going to build
Abiword with grammar support disabled for the time being till link
grammar is back in the repo. I have informed him of the FTBFS policy.
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#Addon_Packages_.28gnome_shell_extensions.29
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There is rationale and benefit. Read the blog posts from Lennart
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governor in Fedora.
Would you add a note to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_release_notes
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If you provide more details on what exactly you are trying to do, more
specific suggestions could be given
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Upstream source is at
https://github.com/ASKBOT/askbot-devel/
Also Askbot can be installed via pip or easy_install and a test
repository for RHEL 6 (and rebuilds) is at
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/pjp/askbot/
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On 07/04/2011 06:18 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
Please give some karma to
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-wacom-0.11.1-1.fc15
This update has been in testing since May 30, the daily reminder emails are
starting to get annoying.
Thanks.
Done
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On 06/29/2011 03:20 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
Hi!
I'm going to replace the report library with the new libreport. Today I
plan to replace it in rawhide and if it goes smoothly I'd like to
replace it in F15 as well.
Why in Fedora 15? There seems to be no compelling reason to do that
Rahul
On 06/27/2011 07:52 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote
Debates like this expose a weakness in packaging philosophy. The
current philosophy seems to be all packages are equal.
It really isn't
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_path_package
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy
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Seems like the abrt retrace server is not part of Fedora infrastructure
yet and is constantly overloaded and I haven't had a single instance
where it did what it is supposed to do yet. What is the status of this?
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of a public wiki page anyone can read. I don't see the
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but quoting paragraphs one after another from
a wikipedia page in repeated threads isn't conductive to a discussion.
Ask any questions and add a reference once. If anyone wants to read
further, they can go ahead and read the page directly.
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On 06/24/2011 09:55 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote
Rahul,
Seems he is using references to support contentions...like a scholarly
journal article. With respect, just as you are free to criticize on
these mailing lists, he is free to speak on them as long as he follows
proper netiquette
, so I don't
see a need to drop the package.
Yes. remove the url and add a comment on the spec
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me in #fedora-devel (my nick is mether)
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personal attacks.
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On 06/17/2011 11:30 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
The actual Linus rule is that if it breaks user stuff it must be fixed
now or it will be reverted. Which is not impossible
If we know about the bugs we can fix them. This bug was only reported
after the release.
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in updates-testing for two weeks. If three testers to give positive
feedback, then it can be pushed to stable immediately.
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Ps: As many people have already told you in the same thread, caps =
shouting online and it is rude to do that. I request you to stop doing that
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task and we might as well go back to bash.
GNOME 3 menu has categories in the right as well but in any case, the
common apps are in the dash and using a keyboard with a search as you
type interface isn't the same as using bash. Let us not be dramatic.
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You are free to do that.
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On 06/17/2011 07:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 06/17/2011 03:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 06/17/2011 06:51 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
... you mean by holy ghost intuition, feel tempted to press a key to
access a hidden feature, where once was a simple feature?
Alt+F1 which
Hi
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/farnold (cc'ed)
gnome-schedule hasn't been updated in a long time and farnold seems to
be inactive in Fedora as well and hasn't responded to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701091
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with the antagonistic approach
you have taken. If I had trouble with your software, I would start by
asking questions on why things the way they are rather than immediately
start telling you, the way you have written it is entirely wrong.
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doesn't
impact negatively on upstart and so on. This is just silly. We have
to draw the line somewhere
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need to learn how to live with vfork
only.
You can't just handwave embedded away by assuming that embedded will
get big enough for me to not really care about optimizing for size.
Since ipv6 is really optional in systemd, why are you even arguing about
this at all, anymore?
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compatibility you have to continue to maintain sys init scripts in
addition to systemd unit files and again make sure they don't diverge
and they both work equivalently. Who is volunteering for that?
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Fedora 15 and above, they should take care of this entirely and I will
do it for one init system which is the default one.
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don't think you want that. Atleast
in this case, the bug was actually filed long after the release and
hence wasn't a known regression that was ignored. I don't think you can
blame Fedora here.
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actually believe that any one person can
stop kernel regressions, that is remarkably naive and avoiding
regressions at the distribution level is many times more impossible
because of the number of components. We can make reasonable attempts to
avoid them. That's all.
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On 06/12/2011 03:27 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
What is the status of the MultiLiveCD,
that was being mooted last year.
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/15/Multi/
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(thanks to
Alexander Kurtakov) [2] and build by koji [3].
My FAS name is davidcl.
Welcome to Fedora. Hope to see you around more
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on my own, if anyone nearby me is interested in
helping me advance my packaging 'foo' as they say, i'd be open to the
assistance!
Welcome to Fedora Ryan. Are you working on any specific package? have
you submitted any for review? I would be happy to help
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On 06/13/2011 09:27 AM, Ryan Lewis wrote:
Hey Rahul,
I few things are in the works:
I am packing this program sketch, as a first taste of learning RPM's
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711547
I'm not sure why I haven't heard back from the reviewers after these
few days have
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who have included it
in their repos. It is far from a Fedora only project. The proper
place for general discussions about systemd is
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Only Fedora specific bugs should be discussed here.
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over to
Oracle or contributing code under permissive licenses? They don't want
to use third party kernel modules? There could be any number of reasons.
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did commit a mistake, we have the
history and can always revert. In short, Be Bold
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enough to just say uninstall and
re-install but nonetheless...
I always recommend running yum distro-sync after a upgrade to avoid such
issues if you didn't use yum to upgrade in the first place
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start in a tray.
When set to auto start on a session launch, users expect it to sit on the
tray (without any wrappers needed) and not show the search all notes
window.
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that, I have split up the package as we had discussed before you left
and I am mentoring a co-maintainer, Justin Noah on updating to the
latest upstream version 1.3.2 for Rawhide. Thanks.
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and do a write up better than this. Any
write up would eventually have to go through editors but the process can
be helped a lot by a little more effort.
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it is getting used or not, ignoring the policy? If there
is a exception needed, it should have been filed with FESCo. Simply
ignoring it makes the rest of us following it, look silly.
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On 05/25/2011 06:56 PM, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote:
Yesterday I upgraded my notebook from 14 to 15.
If you have specific bugs, do report them in bugzilla. General feedback
should go into users list. Thanks
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unless
there is a very good reason to. There is no reason to since we aren't
using any of those new features in Fedora anyway. Why would you ignore
the update policy in a critical path package?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Updates_to_.27critical_path.27_packages
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so it's hard to make it more broken now.
And I'm starting to get sick of the daily reminder emails.
Done.
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Hi
Homepage;
http://mayrhofer.eu.org/dvcs-autosync
LWN article on it
https://lwn.net/Articles/442841/
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Hi
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_announcement
Let me know if you have any comments. Feel free to edit the wiki
directly if needed.
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or not
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will flow into Fedora later?
File them upstream first. We will pick it up. Notify us if you it is
anything important. Thanks for the patches. If you want to be a
co-maintainer of Pino in Fedora, drop me a mail offlist and I can help
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On 05/06/2011 09:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
It doesn't integrate into GNOME 3 any more, since it relies on a panel
applet and GNOME 3 doesn't support those.
The panel applet has been disabled for a long time already and it can
run standalone just fine.
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Note that Gnote is not the default in Fedora 15 anymore. Desktop team
has changed that although I am not sure why.
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include BuildRoot: or %clean as
they are obsolete? Or rather that both Fedora versions (F12 and F10
respectively) that needed them are EOL'd?
EPEL 4 and 5 needs them
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On 04/30/2011 12:53 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
Is it essential that the templates remain the same across distros or
is it more for simplicity of maintaining the package?
Simplicity.
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it solves them.
It is possible to talk to them over email or IRC and get the details.
Someone from Red Hat / RPM developer even presented in the openSUSE
conference the last time around.
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-celery - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697483
django-kombu - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696527
python-coffin - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699335
askbot - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699336
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/PackageKit.conf or remove
PackageKit-yum-plugin. I have requested that the values be higher by
default but haven't managed to convince PackageKit developers. If more
people complain about such issues instead of just removing it, we would
get a better default experience, I hope.
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to these
issues (F13 beta-ish timeframe)
It isn't useful to talk about NM from that time period anymore. There
has been major rewrites of it and current NM is not even comparable
really. Try the latest and then offer comments.
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framework as it is.
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On 04/25/2011 12:36 AM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
Rahul,
If you aren't actively using the GNOME or KDE frontend, just remove
those and leave the
framework as it is.
That was tough :)
AFAIK (and I might be wrong) deep PacakgeKit integration wasn't
clearly mentioned in Fedora 15's feature set
to do under such
circumstances. If you want to discuss issues, use the test list instead
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the people working on
something tell us.
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it as it is?
Ralf didn't merely mention broken deps. He also talked about some
Anaconda issue and what I figure is a GNOME Shell issue. So yes bug
reports are still warranted for those. Any help is welcome in fixing
broken deps as well, of course.
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user documentation. If anyone wants to do more, volunteer to do so.
That is the open source attitude,
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GConf for now...
This means the open browser script isn't used either, so kill that.
This should go into the desktop beat for the release notes along with
the gconf key needed.
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, is a
stable release -- so if possible, would the package maintainers let me
know if this is currently possible?
Why is this update a benefit for Fedora 14? Does it break any
compatibility? Have you done any testing with the affected packages?
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agreed to be a
mentor approved your request to be a co-maintainer for Deluge. You
applied only in Fedora 14 branch. Make sure you apply for Fedora 15 and
devel as well. Removing need sponsor from the review request.Let
me know (offlist or on irc) if you have any questions.
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or the same thing?
GNOME Shell is a major part of GNOME 3. It replaces the panel and
window manager. GNOME 3 requires a number of changes in the core
compoents and hence it won't available as an update for Fedora 14.
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can be used for a rocks2spec type of utility?
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