Re: IRC Announcement

2021-06-02 Thread Leigh Scott
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Re: IRC Announcement

2021-06-02 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 01/06/21 21:57, Eike Rathke ha scritto: > Hi Kamil, > > On Tuesday, 2021-06-01 10:38:40 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > >> I'd still prefer if I didn't have to register an IRC nick and didn't need >> to communicate with Appservice and NickServ (I just wish to forget about >> IRC completely),

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-06-01 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Kamil, On Tuesday, 2021-06-01 10:38:40 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > I'd still prefer if I didn't have to register an IRC nick and didn't need > to communicate with Appservice and NickServ (I just wish to forget about > IRC completely), hopefully that will be possible in the future. Doubtful.

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-06-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 06:26 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Adam Williamson writes: > > > [...] > > But some other channels that are not Fedora channels, but which a lot > > of Fedora people are interested in, decided to move, or at least to > > tell people that they also had a channel on the

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-06-01 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Adam Williamson writes: > [...] > But some other channels that are not Fedora channels, but which a lot > of Fedora people are interested in, decided to move, or at least to > tell people that they also had a channel on the new network. Then > Freenode peremptorily took over those channels for

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-06-01 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 6:55 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > If I intend to use Matrix exclusively, do I still need to register on > libera.chat, in order to participate in Fedora rooms? > > I think if you want to show up on the IRC side with your expected IRC > nick (for example, for IRC

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-06-01 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 10:44 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Maybe it helps in Element Web, Settings, Preferences, to deactivate > > "Show join/leave messages (invites/kicks/bans unaffected)" > > Thanks for the suggestion, but I already had that setting turned off for > months. > > Weirdly

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-31 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 10:22 PM Eike Rathke wrote: > > Hi Fabio, > > On Monday, 2021-05-31 18:53:35 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > Has someone also encountered severe performance issues in certain rooms > > > in Element (a room taking minutes of full CPU usage to load)? I saw it in > >

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-31 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Fabio, On Monday, 2021-05-31 18:53:35 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Has someone also encountered severe performance issues in certain rooms in > > Element (a room taking minutes of full CPU usage to load)? I saw it in the > > past rarely as well, but in the last few days I encountered

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 10:50:15AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > This is I think because it's all still very much 'under development'. I > don't think it makes much sense for folks to spend time writing lists > that are likely to rapidly become outdated, rather than continuing to > work on

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2021-05-31 at 18:53 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:02 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > > > Is there some official list of invite-style links to Fedora > > channels for Matrix users? Can be work-in-progress, but at least > > something. As a

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2021-05-30 at 13:02 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Frank Ch. Eigler writes: >  > adamwill wrote: > >  > > Freenode has also shut down every channel that posted a libera.chat >  > > link in its topic. That's not very 'trustworthy'. This happened to >  > > multiple Fedora-related

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-31 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:02 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > (snip) > > Is there some official list of invite-style links to Fedora channels for > Matrix users? Can be work-in-progress, but at least something. As a > relatively new Matrix user, I have to say I'm utterly confused at the moment. > I

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-31 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:11 PM Nick Bebout wrote: > If you are a Matrix user, we ask for your patience as we get bridges setup > on the new network. If you were joined to rooms via the generic freenode > bridge, you will need to leave them and rejoin the fedora rooms in matrix > (which will be

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Frank Ch. Eigler writes: > adamwill wrote: > > Freenode has also shut down every channel that posted a libera.chat > > link in its topic. That's not very 'trustworthy'. This happened to > > multiple Fedora-related projects/channels, including #cockpit , for > > instance. > > Those

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-29 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
adamwill wrote: > Freenode has also shut down every channel that posted a libera.chat > link in its topic. That's not very 'trustworthy'. This happened to > multiple Fedora-related projects/channels, including #cockpit , for > instance. Those organizations have announced their departure.

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread PGNet Dev
one of the more important trusts we place in the parties in question is to protect the privacy of tens of thousands of *other* people's private conversations. Sure. As do we all. Mostly. Kind of. Ok, hopefully. Again, to _my_ read, _I_ see absolutely nothing in either side's recent

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 4:42 PM PGNet Dev wrote: > I'd bet $0.05 and a half-eaten donut that most folks *Most* folks are not the deciders. The deciders (for their particular projects) have decided, presumably based on what they believe is best for their community. In this case, for

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 12:26 -0400, PGNet Dev wrote: > On 5/28/21 12:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 12:01 -0400, PGNet Dev wrote: > > > On 5/27/21 2:04 PM, Nick Bebout wrote: > > > > Since its beginnings, the Fedora Project has used the freenode IRC > > > > network for our

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread PGNet Dev
due specifically to Andrew Lee's actions. I'd bet $0.05 and a half-eaten donut that most folks shrieking about this would be hard-pressed to regurgitate much of anything beyond 'headlines', with little actual insight into objective details. But then, I'm often wrong. Now, back to real work

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread Dan Book
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:32 PM PGNet Dev wrote: > > Andrew Lee has a flexible relationship with the truth. This is not a > both sides issue, as every other free software project has also agreed. > > Well, it seems you're good then. So, great. > > Just for me, not my 1st rodeo dealing with the

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread PGNet Dev
Andrew Lee has a flexible relationship with the truth. This is not a both sides issue, as every other free software project has also agreed. Well, it seems you're good then. So, great. Just for me, not my 1st rodeo dealing with the spectrum from megalomaniacal-sociopathic-CEOs to

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread PGNet Dev
On 5/28/21 12:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 12:01 -0400, PGNet Dev wrote: On 5/27/21 2:04 PM, Nick Bebout wrote: Since its beginnings, the Fedora Project has used the freenode IRC network for our project communications. Due to a variety of recent changes to that network,

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread Dan Book
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:01 PM PGNet Dev wrote: > On 5/27/21 2:04 PM, Nick Bebout wrote: > > Since its beginnings, the Fedora Project has used the freenode IRC > network for our project communications. Due to a variety of recent changes > to that network, the Fedora Project is moving our IRC

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 12:01 -0400, PGNet Dev wrote: > On 5/27/21 2:04 PM, Nick Bebout wrote: > > Since its beginnings, the Fedora Project has used the freenode IRC network > > for our project communications. Due to a variety of recent changes to that > > network, the Fedora Project is moving our

Re: IRC Announcement

2021-05-28 Thread PGNet Dev
On 5/27/21 2:04 PM, Nick Bebout wrote: Since its beginnings, the Fedora Project has used the freenode IRC network for our project communications. Due to a variety of recent changes to that network, the Fedora Project is moving our IRC communications to Libera.Chat. If a still-fuzzy "variety