On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 9:36 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> So, use "chrony" instead?
For some use cases, there is also the option of
systemd-timesyncd as a ntp client.
> Is the functionality sufficient
As always, given the different use cases, the answer
is maybe.
Here is a quick comparison:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:49 PM Barry wrote:
> After the trauma of the 3.0 release it would be mad to do a python 4.0 for
> such a trivial reason as packagers that assumed, wrongly, that version can
> only have single digits.
And/or codes did character comparisons on version values.
I
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:46 PM Damian Ivanov wrote:
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> >> This proposal was soundly rejected, so don't worry about it.
> >
> > That's great news. Thank you!
> I am not thrilled that this has been rejected since efi support is not
> so good on Fedora.
> Devices that are BIOS can IIRC still use
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 9:32 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> For the record: Not sure if this was fixed on server side or some polices have
> changed, however I have not needed to apply the workaround, my email works out
> of the box after the upgrade.
You could probably use openssl connect to
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 5:21 PM Simo Sorce wrote:
> Note that at this point in time (2020), this is a server bug not a
> Fedora policy problem.
Regardless, as (especially) corporate services tend
to have lives that are excessively longer than updates
in security policies, it might deserve a
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:48 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:45 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
> wrote:
> >
> > On 01.10.2020 16:54, Petr Menšík wrote:
> > > But DNS over TLS does not bring you more privacy usually.
> >
> > It does. DoT and DoH encrypt all DNS traffic. Your ISP
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:47 PM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> There still exist connections as slow as 33 kbps.
And no doubt you can find people still using 300 baud
TI Silent 700 terminals. However, the global internet
speed tests show that the numbers are much higher
on average, and we should
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 8:21 AM Andy Mender wrote:
> Will this affect COPR-hosted projects? So far I've been considering both
> i386 and s390 on equal terms to x86_64.
As I recall, copr supports building for the s390x (the 64-bit variant)
and not the s390 (the 32-bit (31 bit addressing)
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:51 PM Michel Alexandre Salim
wrote:
> Also, should we add WireGuard to this list for future-proofing?
I had thought about explicitly suggesting
wireguard, but then thought that we should
focus on what is currently being used, and
while *I* use wireguard, it is still
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 2:27 AM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> While I understand the motivation behind the RFC (interoperability, safety
> against intentionally or unintentionally bad parameters), hardcoded
> parameters sound suspicious to me.
I'll note that the RFC 7919 values were added
as available
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:12 AM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections
> using DHCP and static addressing.
For IPV6, SLAAC is more common than DHCP(v6)
(especially) in the consumer space. I would like
to see a SLAAC requirement be
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:11 PM Dave Love wrote:
> Is there the possibility of building packages with dummy shims for
> proprietary dynamic libraries that could be substituted at runtime
> (i.e. a package BRs dummy-libthing-devel, and dynamic linker paths
> provide the nasty real libthing at
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 10:03 PM Jeff Law wrote:
> So I've done two passes over the F33 build failures here:
Thank you for taking ownership and responsibility
for those things that you can control. It is a model
for other change owners to attempt to achieve.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:32 PM Peter Robinson wrote:
> The changes should have landed _BEFORE_ mass rebuild, if the change
> owner didn't have the permissions they should have done PRs for all
> the packages rather than having zero direct comms to affected package
> owners and having them find
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:24 PM Peter Robinson wrote:
> There's also a bunch of CMake related ones and I'm not even sure how
> to deal with that.
The proposal owners stated that:
Existing packages can (and most likely will) become FTBFS, but
proposal owners will fix as many Fedora
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:15 PM Richard Hughes wrote:
> Most of those are the libcroco->gettext breakage, no?
From a very cursory scan (not at all scientific),
some percentage are the cmake macro changes.
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On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:23 PM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Especially the CMake one was completely pointless.
The goal was not pointless, but I will assert that the
implementation was flawed in practice.
I would suggest that a lesson to be learned is that changes
that are expected to require updates
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:11 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> None of this is relevant ... (to) ... a package which is ...
> widely used, however.
You keep making that assertion. Please provide
the audited numbers from a reputable source(*).
(*) Preferably for sites that actually are more than
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:50 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> Why should I have to switch the system that's being used, and potentially
> break these servers, just because a package isn't being compiled anymore? It
> still works, and it works very well. It has less overhead than php-fpm, even!
>
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:04 PM Till Maas wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> in https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2410 I proposed to name the dist-git
> branch for Fedora Rawhide "rawhide" to clarify the purpose of that
> branch. There was also some feedback that Rawhide might not be the best
> name and it could be
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
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> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BtrfsByDefault
>
A few claims (without justification):
There is no "average" Fedora user.
There is no "average" Fedora system.
There is also no "average" workload on the
(non) average system (some
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:41 AM Igor Raits
wrote:
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> %if (0%{?rhel} && 0%{?rhel}) <= 8 || (0%{?fedora} && 0%{?fedora} <= 32)
>
Yes, I have written such spec file lines, and while
they are correct, they tend to be ugly to parse for
humans.
While I know it is personal preference, I tend to
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:48 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
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> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora-Retired-Packages
>
> == Summary ==
> All retired packages are obsoleted by `fedora-retired-packages`.
>
I am in favor of the intention that when you upgrade,
those packages from previous releases
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:48 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
> == Summary ==
> %cmake macro will be adjusted (-B parameter)
> to use separate build folder (already standardized
> %{_vpath_builddir} macro).
While there is certainly no requirement for different
distributions to work the same, as I
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:42 PM TI_Eugene wrote:
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> What's happened with koji?
Koji has a scheduled outage due to the
(well) documented datacenter move. At
any single point the services will be in
"interesting" operational modes.
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On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:40 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
> Bias is not the same thing as a conflict of interest. And it doesn't
> inherently result in unfairness.
Sometimes it is a matter avoiding even the appearance
of impropriety that could be raised at a later date to
question the
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:16 PM Alex Scheel wrote:
> Abstaining is in two categories:
There is (at least) one additional category, which
is that the issue involves various levels of self
interest. Technically that is really called a recusal,
but the result is the same when it comes time
to
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 2:12 AM Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Checking each of those deps, openssh-clients grew a dep on
> libfido2, which in turn requires u2f-hidraw-policy that is
> provided by systemd. That looks like the main chain which
> leads to the additional packages installed in a mock
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 9:03 AM Leigh Scott wrote:
> Aren't external kernel modules banned by fedora packaging rules?
My recollection (from some time ago) was there was
a process to request a (short term) exception to
allow one to ship a kernel module if the kernel
module developer (not the
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:43 AM Panu Matilainen wrote:
> Based on rpm-specs-latest.tar.xz from this morning, there are thirtysome
> packages relying on this behavior, which will need fixing to be
> buildable with 4.16.
Is there a list of those thirty something packages
somewhere so that those
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:57 PM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> But ideally
You seem to have a lot of thoughts about changes
and improvements to the process.
When should the RPMFusion community expect
you to complete those improvements?
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:20 PM Rob Crittenden wrote:
> Closing a bug doesn't clear the needinfo.
I consider that a mis-feature, but I have
learned to live with it.
> As a package owner I like the daily reminder. If it only happened
> monthly then bad timing could make it so I miss a reminder
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:07 AM Orion Poplawski wrote:
> One notable change is that it appears that perl-devel ->
> perl-interpreter no longer brings in the AutoLoader, blib, FindBin,
> sigtrap, Tie::Scalar, and perhaps other modules. Is that intentional?
The changelog certainly documents that
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:10 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
> A further possibility as it relates to hibernation, is having systemd
> activate a swap partition (or even a swapfile) only at hibernation
> time. That would block it from being used during normal usage,
> preserving it (in effect) for just
On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 5:08 PM Sérgio Basto wrote:
> and why gradle was retired ? is easy unretire it ?
Announced here (with reasons):
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/BMJXGWKXXFOOBQON3XFYPFBOWEZMAKKU/
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:00 AM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I think increasing the size of the live images, also affecting the download
> time and the time to write the image to media (even USB sticks are not
> instant), to get a one-time installation speedup is a very bad tradeoff.
While not exactly
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:22 PM drago01 wrote:
> What does windows do? Is it the equivalent of the discard mount option or is
> it more like fstrim?
Well, as I understand it(*), it's complicated, and there are a
lot of various tuning knobs one can use to change behavior.
But typically, with
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