Kevin Fenzi writes:
Thanks for the conversation and a lot of useful information. I think
it's mostly moved to "users", which is a channel which I think is more
suited to forum style. So I'll go back to lurking, after one comment.
> Yep. Perhaps we could (re)direct people to file issues with u
On 19/10/18 07:03 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 6:45 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:16 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> Again, I believe some are trying to do an apples to apples comparison
with Discourse and mailing list technologies. Discourse was build fro
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:33:56PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 10/21/18 6:12 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > Kevin Fenzi writes:
> >
> > > Huh. The only person I know of from Fedora at least that was
> > > working on it was abompard. While he's working on other things now,
> > > as far as
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
> > I'm not able to parse this. This very thread is more information that
> > may get us to move it up in priority. Can you rephrase?
>
> I don't know what "Fedora management" values, or what is needed by the
> people who are doing the
On 10/22/18 11:14 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
> > On 10/21/18 6:12 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
> > > years now. abompard has a few commits, he and pingu still answer mail
> > > but that's about it.
> >
> > Well, he has 980 commits, much more than anyone else.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:22 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> On 10/22/18 9:49 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:40 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/22/18 7:35 AM, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> abompard has a few commits, he and pingu still answer mail
> but that's about it
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> On 10/21/18 6:12 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > years now. abompard has a few commits, he and pingu still answer mail
> > but that's about it.
>
> Well, he has 980 commits, much more than anyone else.
Sure, but in the last couple of years there are only a couple
On 10/22/18 9:49 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:40 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>
>> On 10/22/18 7:35 AM, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
abompard has a few commits, he and pingu still answer mail
but that's about it.
>>>
>>> I agree that my activity on HyperKitty has slowed down a
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:40 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> On 10/22/18 7:35 AM, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> >> abompard has a few commits, he and pingu still answer mail
> >> but that's about it.
> >
> > I agree that my activity on HyperKitty has slowed down a lot these last
> > years, because I got i
On 10/22/18 7:35 AM, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
>> abompard has a few commits, he and pingu still answer mail
>> but that's about it.
>
> I agree that my activity on HyperKitty has slowed down a lot these last
> years, because I got involved with other projects too.
>
>> No, it can't, can it. Fedo
> abompard has a few commits, he and pingu still answer mail
> but that's about it.
I agree that my activity on HyperKitty has slowed down a lot these last years,
because I got involved with other projects too.
> No, it can't, can it. Fedora is not keeping up with upstream, which
> means that "
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 3:05 AM Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> Required disclosure: Mailman dev, and my sympathies are with the list
> advocates for this channel both for that reason, and for more
> objective ones. I don't really argue against a move to Discourse
> here, but I do know a bit about
On 10/21/18 6:12 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
>
> > Huh. The only person I know of from Fedora at least that was
> > working on it was abompard. While he's working on other things now,
> > as far as I know he's still working on mailman3/hyperkitty as time
> > permits.
>
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> Huh. The only person I know of from Fedora at least that was
> working on it was abompard. While he's working on other things now,
> as far as I know he's still working on mailman3/hyperkitty as time
> permits.
pingu and abadger also contributed. Don't know their exact
On 10/20/18 9:09 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
> > On 10/19/18 6:43 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> > > You know why the usage numbers bear that out? Because the upgrade to
> > > HyperKitty was mishandled and delayed over and over. We were screwed
> > > over by the fact that o
Dan Book writes:
> It is not a format of their own, but it's not appropriate for
> plaintext, so it sounds like a bug to me.
But that's exactly my point. *We* think it's a bug, but *they* chose
it deliberately. Undoubtedly people have tools expecting it, etc.
I've been on both sides of that
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 07:12 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller <
> mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> ...
> > That's why the general trend is *away* from email.
> >
> > The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in
> this way,
> > and
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> So, my opinion on email vs. web forum is that it is comes down to
> freedom vs. lock-in.
Right. What does migration out of Discourse look like?
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So, my opinion on email vs. web forum is that it is comes down to
freedom vs. lock-in.
With mailing lists (and Usenet), messages are distributed in a
more-or-less well-defined format, and users are able to choose clients,
filtering, etc. to suit their use patterns. Sometimes people do novel
thing
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:09 AM Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski writes:
> > Gerald B. Cox writes:
>
> > > Regardless, as I mentioned above, if they have a bug, then it
> > > should be reported for them to address.
> >
> > I wouldn't call it a bug, just bad UX f
stan writes:
> So, you are really gung-ho for Discourse.
IMO, that's not nasty, but it wasn't necessary and could be taken
badly in context. Just, "as a proponent, I'd like to ask you" is good
when things are getting heated.
Your questions are important[1], and I'd like to gloss them:
> What
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> On 10/19/18 6:43 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > You know why the usage numbers bear that out? Because the upgrade to
> > HyperKitty was mishandled and delayed over and over. We were screwed
> > over by the fact that our infrastructure doesn't run on Fedora, so
> > that made i
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018, 18:30 Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:00 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:31 AM Chris Adams wrote:
> >>
> >> Once upon a time, R P Herrold said:
> >> > This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt
> >> >
> >> > perha
Required disclosure: Mailman dev, and my sympathies are with the list
advocates for this channel both for that reason, and for more
objective ones. I don't really argue against a move to Discourse
here, but I do know a bit about the problem space, and I'd like to
discuss *some* aspects here. I ex
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:31 AM Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, R P Herrold said:
> > > perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this
> > > thread with
> >
> > Matt didn't choose that - that subject was set by Gerald B. Cox.
> >
> > As I previousl
Gerald, I'm the person who designed Hyperkitty's concept on a napkin on a
shuttlebus with Luke Macken some years ago. Your characterization of it here is
incorrect.
I say this with respect, please try to listen more than you post. Hyperkitty
stats show you're dominating this conveesation.
~m
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 3:58 PM stan wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:58:57 -0700
> "Gerald B. Cox" wrote:
> > Software is a tool for me. I don't get emotionally attached to it -
> > as some people apparently are. It's a bit telling that
> > many people seem to be afraid that Discourse will be a
Re: teenagers and timelines, I'm just addressing the specific concerns that
were raised to me.
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On Fri, 2018-10-19 at 13:05 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> For example, github and bugzilla work because they
> have full email messages. I don't have to go to the website to get
> the
> rest of the message.
You actually can reply to the e-mails from GitHub (not sure about
Bugzilla). They do threa
On 10/19/18 8:58 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
Software is a tool for me. I don't get emotionally attached to it - as
some people apparently are. It's a bit telling that
many people seem to be afraid that Discourse will be a success.
I'm not emotionally attached to it, but I am somewhat afraid th
reading the subject line you chose to start this
> > > thread with
> >
> > Matt didn't choose that - that subject was set by Gerald B. Cox.
Yeah, it is kind of confrontational; there's a big difference between
'Should Fedora replace mailing lists with
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, R P Herrold said:
> > This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt
> >
> > perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this
> > thread with
>
> Matt didn't choose that - that subject was set by Gerald B. Cox
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 07:49:41AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Oh really... I said that... perhaps you should take 5 seconds and read the
> subject of the thread.
Hey, let's please keep this friendly.
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On Fri, 2018-10-19 at 07:28 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> And if this conversation were in Discourse, we could simply move it to a
> new topic ;-)
Some people see it as history rewriting ... one of the reasons I like
email is that *you* can't change stuff after the fact, because *I* have
it ar
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:40:18AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> I don't like saying this, but what it comes down to is that our
> relationship with RHEL has evolved into a one-sided affair. I wish
> someone who is empowered to do something about it would, but the rest
> of us can't.
>
> Frankly, I s
On 10/19/18 6:43 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:16 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>>
>> Again, I believe some are trying to do an apples to apples comparison with
>> Discourse and mailing list technologies. Discourse was build from the
>> ground up with the goal of fostering communi
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:19:43PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> I'm more afraid that it'll be a success with casualties. In other
> words, it'll be a failure but not look like one at a glance. Driving
> people away and making it harder to keep track of topics of import is
> going to necessarily const
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:00 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:31 AM Chris Adams wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a time, R P Herrold said:
>> > This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt
>> >
>> > perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this
>> > thre
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:31 AM Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, R P Herrold said:
> > This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt
> >
> > perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this
> > thread with
>
> Matt didn't choose that - that subject was set by Gera
Once upon a time, R P Herrold said:
> This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt
>
> perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this
> thread with
Matt didn't choose that - that subject was set by Gerald B. Cox.
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> Neal Gompa:
>> because you're dead set on this anyway.
> Matt Miller:
> I ... don't know how to engage constructively with this accusation, because
> it it seems to come from absolutely nowhere. Yes, we're *definitely* trying
This seems very tone de
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 07:54 -0700, Gerald B. Cox a écrit :
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:43 AM Nicolas Mailhot <
>
> You really should try it, you might like it. BTW, there are no ads in
> the Fedora Discourse instance, so
> not sure what you are talking about there. As far as email is
> c
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:43 AM Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 07:28 -0700, Gerald B. Cox a écrit :
> > And if this conversation were in Discourse, we could simply move it to
> > a new topic ;-)
>
> And if it where is discourse I would’t participate in it.
>
> Basicall
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:41 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
>
> I'm not talking about you in the Fedora sense. I'm talking about
> Gerald and his saying "we must move everything to Discourse".
>
Oh really... I said that... perhaps you should take 5 seconds and read the
subject of the thread.
As far as
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 07:28 -0700, Gerald B. Cox a écrit :
> And if this conversation were in Discourse, we could simply move it to
> a new topic ;-)
And if it where is discourse I would’t participate in it.
Basically, as others said, not interested in shiny tech that has no
notion of
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:11 AM Matthew Miller
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 09:43:48AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > It's also bad for archiving, since threads are inherently unstable.
> > Conversation splitting and merging is very awkward (as I've observed
> > in the Snapcraft Discourse). I
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:10:22AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> I ... don't know how to engage constructively with this accusation, because
> it it seems to come from absolutely nowhere. Yes, we're *definitely* trying
> out Discourse. That's not a conspiracy — it's live! We're also trying out
> H
And if this conversation were in Discourse, we could simply move it to a
new topic ;-)
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:21 AM Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 14:55 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé a écrit :
> >
> > I don't know why Red Hat's mailman impl isn't upgraded, but it is
>
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 14:55 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé a écrit :
>
> I don't know why Red Hat's mailman impl isn't upgraded, but it is
> not blocked by lack of Python 3 on RHEL.
>
> Red Hat Software Collections have been providing Python 3.x versions
> that run on RHEL since ~2013. They ex
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 09:43:48AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> It's also bad for archiving, since threads are inherently unstable.
> Conversation splitting and merging is very awkward (as I've observed
> in the Snapcraft Discourse). I can keep going, but it doesn't matter,
> because you're dead set
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 6:45 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:16 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >
> > Again, I believe some are trying to do an apples to apples comparison
> with Discourse and mailing list technologies. Discourse was build from the
> ground up with the goal of foster
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 09:43:48AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> That *completely* handicapped adoption of HyperKitty, because
> HyperKitty requires Mailman 3. What's worse, because it's almost
> impossible to run on RHEL due to the lack of Python 3 (which continues
> to anger and frustrate me), Red H
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:16 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> Again, I believe some are trying to do an apples to apples comparison with
> Discourse and mailing list technologies. Discourse was build from the ground
> up with the goal of fostering communication and collaboration. Hyperkitty is
> a
Again, I believe some are trying to do an apples to apples comparison with
Discourse and mailing list technologies. Discourse was build from the
ground up with the goal of fostering communication and collaboration.
Hyperkitty is a bolt on HTML to mailing list archives. It's good for what
it is, b
> On 2018-10-17 13:41, John Florian wrote:
>
> How does Discourse handle posts you've already read in a
> thread that's still active. With things like reddit or LWN, you get to
> read it over and over and over again if you really want to see whats new
> now.
It handles it very well.
You don't
> On Thursday, 18 October 2018 at 23:04, Dominik wrote:
> [...]
>
> So, I tried to answer in one of the threads and it's quite difficult,
> in my opinion. The message compose pop-up doesn't quote the message
> I'm replying to, so I can't write my comments in response to specific
> passages by the
Máirín,
On 2018-10-19 14:43, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I'm open to all of those suggestions as well as committing to design
and CSS work for them. I would need a web dev to help me though; I'm
not great with Django.
Please note, the reason Hyperkitty didn't cause this sort of thread or
honestly any
On Fri, 2018-10-19 at 03:43 +, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> I'm open to all of those suggestions as well as committing to design and CSS
> work for them. I would need a web dev to help me though; I'm not great with
> Django.
>
> Please note, the reason Hyperkitty didn't cause this sort of thread or
Hi, Máirín.
On Friday, 19 October 2018 at 05:43, Máirín Duffy wrote:
[...]
> I believe quite strongly (and have from the start when I first heard
> of the project) that Discourse's basic UX model is fundamentally
> flawed. If we deploy discourse and roll it out, we *may* get new
> users, but as n
Randy Barlow writes:
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> Discourse is *definitely* not a smooth, drop-in mailing list
>> replacement
>> like Hyperkitty is.
>
> I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
> well at.
Badges, those are super impor
On Thursday, 18 October 2018 at 23:04, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
[...]
> I wouldn't expect it to be a "drop-in" mailing list replacement.
> Yes, it allows some backward compatibility by providing
> "mailing-list mode" - but you're going to get a richer
> experience if you use native interfaces.
So, I t
Máirín Duffy wrote:
> So our Hyperkitty version is old here. I can't reporduce the issue on
> mailman3.org's HK, which is newer. I suspect this is a bug that's been fixed.
Indeed it was. An infrastructure ticket was filed ~7 months
back¹ and the issue was addressed upstream in 7558682 ("Fix
quot
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Randy Barlow (manually corrected) wrote:
>
> I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
> well at.
A lot of stuff.
If you try any Discourse website out there you'll see it immediately.
Just an example.
In Hyperkitty, when a new unr
> I'm replying from Hyperkitty interface.
>
> I clicked on Quote to quote your email, Randy, but your words appear as
> written by
> Matthew. Not good...
> Also it seems there's no way to mark a thread as read/unread or special.
> I have the feeling that following a list in Hyperkitty is almost i
So our Hyperkitty version is old here. I can't reporduce the issue on
mailman3.org's HK, which is newer. I suspect this is a bug that's been fixed.
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> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
> well at. Wasn't Hyperkitty supposed to give people the forum
> experience? I admit I haven't used it that much for reading or posting
> (though I do use it for arc
I'm open to all of those suggestions as well as committing to design and CSS
work for them. I would need a web dev to help me though; I'm not great with
Django.
Please note, the reason Hyperkitty didn't cause this sort of thread or honestly
any sort of drama or controversy when it was deployed
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:11 PM Randy Barlow
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 14:04 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > Here is a link to discourse features:
> > https://www.discourse.org/features
> >
> > I view hyperkitty as just a web interface for mailing lists - not
> > much more
> > than that.
>
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 14:04 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Here is a link to discourse features:
> https://www.discourse.org/features
>
> I view hyperkitty as just a web interface for mailing lists - not
> much more
> than that.
> Discourse provides a more complete conversation / collaboration
> en
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Randy Barlow
wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Discourse is *definitely* not a smooth, drop-in mailing list
> > replacement
> > like Hyperkitty is.
>
> I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
> well
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Discourse is *definitely* not a smooth, drop-in mailing list
> replacement
> like Hyperkitty is.
I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
well at. Wasn't Hyperkitty supposed to give people the forum
experience?
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:40 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 10/18/18 6:31 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> > Actually, I think that just creating a new discourse instance for
> > discussions keeping the mailing
> > lists around would be a good solution. You wouldn't have to worry about
> > registration
* Gerald B. Cox [18/10/2018 06:31] :
>
> Actually, I think that just creating a new discourse instance for
> discussions keeping the mailing lists around would be a good solution.
The way I read this, it implies we would fragment developement disccusion
in two, the people using mailing lists on on
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:34:45PM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> You're missing the point of this thread - it's about the capabilities
> of a tool to foster discussion and communication between mulitiple
> people - it's not about cloning email software.
What is "email software", if not a tool to
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 12:12 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:03 PM Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrot
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:24:03PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> Using GMail (both legacy and Inbox) as a representation of email
> workflow and ergonomy is not fair. Gmail as a client is abysmal.
> No threading, no coloring of different level of citation, no integrated
> GPG support, no comforta
On 10/18/18 6:31 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:33 AM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 01:39:30PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> I cannot *ever* recommend, in good conscious, moving to Discourse for
>>> Fedora development discussions.
>>>
>>> However, I thi
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:28 PM wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > You need to read the entire thread in context, including subsequent
> > responses. I realize that can be difficult on a mailing list, with
> > all the top-posting, conversation snippets, etc.
>
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:24 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>
> > You like gmail […]
>
> Using GMail (both legacy and Inbox) as a representation of email
> workflow and ergonomy is not fair. Gmail as a client is abysmal.
> No threading, no coloring of different level of citation, no integrated
> GPG
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> You need to read the entire thread in context, including subsequent
> responses. I realize that can be difficult on a mailing list, with
> all the top-posting, conversation snippets, etc.
We have been doing that. The features touted for Di
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 03:02:52PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrot
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:03 PM Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb
> wrote:
> >
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > >
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me.
> > >
> > > T
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me.
> >
> > That's because gmail only shows the HTML part.
> >
>
> Ah... so
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:00:32PM +, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> > How do I start a thread on Discourse from email? We should start this
> > discussion over there so we can experience it ourselves.
>
> So, yeah, that's a thing: we cu
On 10/17/18 4:27 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:54:23PM -0400, John Florian wrote:
With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it
over and over and over again if you really want to see whats new now.
https://lwn.net/Comments/unread will show you comments posted
aftery
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:33 AM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 01:39:30PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > I cannot *ever* recommend, in good conscious, moving to Discourse for
> > Fedora development discussions.
> >
> > However, I think it's fantastic for user support, as those are
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 01:39:30PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> I cannot *ever* recommend, in good conscious, moving to Discourse for
> Fedora development discussions.
>
> However, I think it's fantastic for user support, as those are much
> more context free, incidental, and so on. I've wished for
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:29:33AM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote:
> I am not saying switching to Discourse is a *bad* idea. I am saying
> that I, at least, would like to see a more serious proposal than
> simply "just do it because it's better". That might require switching
> one list over and seeing how
On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 21:15, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM John Florian wrote:
> >
> > How does Discourse handle posts you've already read in a thread that's
> > still active. With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it over and
> > over and over again
On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 17:52, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:38 AM Anderson, Charles R wrote:
[...]
> > It is
> > also required to send semantically similar contents in both the
> > text/plain and text/html parts, so that the text/plain part can act as
> > a real human-
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:54:23PM -0400, John Florian wrote:
> With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it
> over and over and over again if you really want to see whats new now.
https://lwn.net/Comments/unread will show you comments posted
afteryour last visit, with one post in grey to
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 16:35 Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 03:52:17PM -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > I'm not an email expert by any means. What I said was that it works
> > perfectly fine for me. If people have an issue with it they should file a
> > bug or enhancement req
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 03:52:17PM -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> I'm not an email expert by any means. What I said was that it works
> perfectly fine for me. If people have an issue with it they should file a
> bug or enhancement request with the discourse project. That way the issue
> could be ad
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM John Florian wrote:
>
> How does Discourse handle posts you've already read in a thread that's still
> active. With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it over and over and
> over again if you really want to see whats new now.
Discourse handles this quite
l.
So, really, you've used it for a couple of days, have declared it
fine,
and then boldly declared "Fedora should replace mailing lists with
Discourse". But I've used it for a bit longer, and my experience has
simply been negative. The discourse system simpl
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 15:31 Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:02:58AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me.
>
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:02:58AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me.
> >
> > That's because gmail only shows the HTML part.
> >
>
> Ah..
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The thing is, it doesn't matter. Discourse is *not* designed to
>> support the types of discussions that do happen on these lists, nor is
>> it designed to handle the load or the number of disparate
>> conversations.
>
>
>
> I've exp
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