Re: wiki spam!

2008-06-20 Thread Samuel Klein
We can run an anti-blanking bot to avoid the most obvious spam. Requiring logins makes tracking casual vandals harder without making it harder for any dedicated vandal such as this one from doing their devious deeds. Of course, if you want to restrict viral communication on our wiki by

Re: wiki spam!

2008-06-20 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Joseph A. Feinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same instance today, with a community testing page. Spoke with Kim... she said it's a wiki's feature, not a bug! ;-( That's a fact. Anyone can revert spammers by visiting their edit history and rolling

Re: wiki spam!

2008-06-20 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph A. Feinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had the same instance today, with a community testing page. Spoke with Kim... she said it's a wiki's feature, not a bug! ;-( If you admit it's a wiki feature (which I

Re: wiki spam!

2008-06-20 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: what are the currently installed software-based anti-spam tools on the wiki? : default mediawiki block tools for admins : semiprotection for spam magnets : a captcha required for anonymous or new editors that add external

Re: New, more realistic multi-hop network testbed

2008-06-07 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote: Last I checked, Poly wasn't an employee of OLPC. I don't think this is a valid argument either: Not being an employee of OLPC does not mean I 'm willing to waste my time on something

Re: [OLPC Security] G1G1: Security, to enable or disable...

2008-06-03 Thread Samuel Klein
I continue to be uncomfortable that we are sending out restricted / locked-down machines without a clear need. The arguments made so far for this are 1. Getting G1G1 people to test security steps 2. Protecting G1G1 donors from installing anything but signed builds 3. Showing a pretty boot

Re: XO-2

2008-05-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Watlington wrote: | On May 22, 2008, at 11:01 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: | GPS enables a lot of mapping and geography-related educational | activities, which is why it was originally considered for the

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-09 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Stephen John Smoogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:23 PM, K. K. Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 09 May 2008 9:33:26 pm Eben Eliason wrote: Even if you were to provide an computer exclusively to each child, they are

Mail backlog; list moderators needed

2008-05-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Dear devel-list, I just forwarded a bunch of mail from non-subscribers from the past few weeks. I am looking for 2 people to help moderate this list -- this involves filtering spam, forwarding messages from non-list members, keeping heated discussions on-topic, and moderating the rare

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Developers should eat their own dogfood, AND this doesn't seem like the right process. A one-click install latest activities link would work just fine, and be a way to test activity updating. It shouldn't be possible to ship without browse. I find shipping a more reasonable set of priority

Re: [Olpc-open] jumpy cursor problem and sugar issue

2008-05-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Advice from the field : try dusting a jumpy touchpad with chalkdust. --SJ, who is looking for a cite... On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Day 3 of the pilots at Bishwamitra and Bashuki and couple of issues have come up 1. We are having a lot of trouble

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-08 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:55 AM, C. Scott Ananian ps. SJ, there are no 'core activities' that we ship. There is only one security-privileged activity (Journal), which we currently ship in the core build because (a) Sugar breaks otherwise, and (b) Rainbow's activity-signing stuff is

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-07 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07.05.2008, at 19:54, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, my

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-07 Thread Samuel Klein
2008/5/7 Steve Holton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Case in point, it bugs me when the wiki documents features of versions which haven't been released yet, or declares a problem fixed because some later, as yet unreleased version no longer shows the problem. Well, it's correct to document features of

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-07 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/7 Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It never hurts to be paranoid, but the educational priorities of our tool and software development are not changing. There are priorities that have not been effectively

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-24 Thread Samuel Klein
An aside to all about mailing list usage : please stay on-topic. Community-news is for announcements only (despite having a brief discussion earlier this week), and devel is for code and development. I'm bcc:ing devel and copying olpc-open and grassroots lists, in the hopes that this is taken up

Re: [sugar] This project is rolling, so should OLPC

2008-04-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our pilots at Bishwamitra and Bashuki schools start this Friday and I couldn't be more excited. Fantastic. Please keep up a steady photo stream! The rest of your email is perfectly put. --SJ I find this discussion

Re: [Olpc-open] Making Plans

2008-04-22 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OLPC's focus is on development, funding and delivery of laptops to the least developed countries. The expectations for features, testing, support,

Re: Question regarding joyride usb images

2008-04-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Good afternoon, You may also find bert's script a handy way to install the base activity pack: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bert's_script cheers, SJ On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may want to build a customization key as described in the wiki:

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Javier, The humble towns are most important. An aside : when I was last in New York (for the story jam a couple weekends ago) I saw a UNICEF poster display of a disaster-area school in a box -- two suitcase-sized containers with all of the materials and power-generators needed to run a single

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Samuel Klein
Agreed. The date doesn't need to be in the build #, and only makes it longer. And I don't know how meaningful it is to have a build named OLPC -- as noted a few times, we are building more than one thing. If anything, that should be a clarifier at the end noting that OLPC was the 'customizer' of

Re: Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia

2008-04-09 Thread Samuel Klein
It's nice to see a python toolchain for this (though I don't see any code at that url?) They exist in other languages as well. We've been working with Linterweb's Kiwix (kiwix.org) and the Schools-Wikipedia, which use their own toolchains. Alecu, take a look at the [[wikislice]] project on the

Re: Summer of Code mentorship

2008-04-05 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Patrick, thank you for your interest. The applications will be stronger with good feedback, not proportionally to whether or not you are approved by then. You should be able to access the applications through the mentor interface; please comment on their applications (and on any others

Summer of Code update : applications so far, and thanks

2008-04-05 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you to all who have helped out with our Summer of Code process so far. We now have 30 mentors from the community, and 150 applications from 30 countries. Students have put a good deal of thought into these applications, and I hope that most of them can lead to community discussion even if

Re: [Testing] New OLPC Process and Rules for Builing Activities, Releases, and Firmware Builds

2008-04-04 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:04 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/4 Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: present it yourself via the dialin number, that would be ideal; otherwise someone else will present for you (though perhaps not as passionately) and You haven't been sitting

Re: [Server-devel] [Localization] OT is there a Content or Curriculum olpc email list

2008-04-03 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Yama, please see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for content discussions and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for aspects of usability (discussions about interface design are usually directed to sugar). There is no list about teacher training, though there is an educators list that was initially

Re: [Olpc-open] Nortel LearniT animations (Seth Woodworth)

2008-03-26 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you, Charles. Bryan, to your original point: There are a lot of great education activities done in Flash and their # will only increase simply because it is very easy to develop animations using flash. Check out www.eshikshaindia.in for more great learning animations. Those did not

Re: [sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC

2008-03-24 Thread Samuel Klein
by the OLPC association. Please find below a link to my introductory post: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-March/011978.html Best, Alex Escalona On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We are participating in Google Summer of Code

Announcement : New mailing list for Summer of Code [OLPC GSoC]

2008-03-22 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello, We have a new mailing list set up for summer of code participants. Please join if you are interested in applying to be a mentor, contributing or reviewing project ideas, applying as a student, or otherwise contributing to the process. http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/gsoc Mentor

Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC

2008-03-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Dear all, We are participating in Google Summer of Code again this year, and now accepting applications from mentors. We are holding the first of a series of quick discussions about SoC tomorrow (saturday) at 2100 UTC / 1700 EST in #olpc. Please join us to share advice to share from SoC's past,

Re: A self-contained pseudo-dynamic xo library

2008-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Dynamic_library --SJ On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: I helped SJ draft a document rationalizing the need for a dynamic solution Where is this document? It was

Re: Why is Terminal 'extra' ?

2008-03-06 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:22 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would we burn up Flash space for activities that are not accessible to the user?* And if the user installs them, then they burn up twice as much flash space? Taking up twice as much flash space is painful. Having a

Re: using the browser as an activity platform : pyxpcom / hulahop / Gears

2008-02-27 Thread Samuel Klein
to add Brad Neuberg to this conversation. He is a colleague of mine on the Google Gears project and he has been looking for a contact at OLPC. -Ben On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 12:12 PM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 16, 2008 6:21 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The core use

Re: Overweight Wiki Page

2008-02-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Derw, Having a way to generate an aggregate table of contents for a set of pages without transcluding the text of those pages could be useful. I don't believe it has been written; as far as I know this would be the first magic word[1] in MediaWiki that parses the text of another wikipage and

Re: Overweight Wiki Page

2008-02-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drew, Note that a common workaround is to make such a table of contents by hand, not to make it too finely grained, and to update it by hand when subpages change. See for instance the [[HIG]] header. The easiest way

Re: Beyond Hello World

2008-02-20 Thread Samuel Klein
How about making hacking sugar a chapter or two in the developers manual? Eduardo: you can 'transclude' pages on the wiki if you want to share content across pages (something like {{:Developers Manual}} inside a page will include all of the text from [[Developers Manual]] at that point in the

Re: An Update about Speech Synthesis

2008-02-19 Thread Samuel Klein
Hemant and James, Can you write something about this at a [[spoken texts]] page on the wiki ('hear and read'? some other more creative name... )? The Google Literacy Project is highlighting a number of literacy efforts for the upcoming World Book Day, and your work would be fine suggestions for

Re: git admin, where are you? (was Re: Read ETexts Activity Text To Speech)

2008-02-19 Thread Samuel Klein
On Feb 19, 2008 7:55 AM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue that I'll have with this is making it degrade gracefully. Since text to speech looks like it will be shipped with the OS, I have to figure out a way to make this feature only be visible on laptops that can support

Re: Two general thoughts

2008-02-19 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Ricardo, I agree with both of your points. The best network applications will work peer to peer, and not depend on (but will be enhanced by) the presence of servers. And I would add that where automation is implemented, it should be clear how to turn (every aspect of) it off. SJ

Re: tonight's progress

2008-02-16 Thread Samuel Klein
Moving this thread to devel. SJ On Feb 16, 2008 11:54 AM, edward baafi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luke, It appears from your code snippet that you have a browse activity build which has pyxpcom enabled.. Is this built by default on Joyride? If not, how can you best get me access to your

Re: using the browser as an activity platform : pyxpcom / hulahop / Gears

2008-02-16 Thread Samuel Klein
head, MediaWiki, MindMeister, I copy Ben Lisbakken, a gears maintainer, who reports that there is a Gears patch to make it work without extension support... Ben, I'll also introduce you to marcopg separately. SJ On Feb 16, 2008 12:36 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moving this thread

Re: wiki page for control-panel

2008-02-14 Thread Samuel Klein
Simon, This happens. Please merge them yourself where possible -- or add {{merge}} to the top of the pages to help others find and merge them. I redirected the newer page to the older and copied its contents onto the old talk page. SJ On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL

Re: project application: OLPC Europe

2008-02-12 Thread Samuel Klein
We can certinly store this -- we do encourage people to put their content, including webpages and collections, into source control. If our current hosting process stops scaling to include all of these projects, we can find another solution. SJ On Feb 12, 2008 11:23 AM, Mel Chua [EMAIL

Re: Licensing for One Laptop Per Child

2008-02-05 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello, and thanks for your interest! On Feb 5, 2008 4:53 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copied to OLPC mailing lists and Librarian Chick, cataloguer of free textbooks. On Feb 5, 2008 7:36 AM, Joshua Waitzkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Edward, Many thanks for following up.

Re: EBook Reader (was Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes)

2008-01-27 Thread Samuel Klein
Yes, that's it. You can see a couple of books displayed with it here : http://ejohn.org/apps/ebook/ SJ On Jan 27, 2008 10:41 AM, Chas. Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008 8:37 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had a real ebook reader written by John Resig in the days

Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page

2008-01-17 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks, Chris. And thanks to Ties, Bryan, Noah, and all for sharing their coments -- please use this effort to build a great set of guidelines for what makes a good activity. This is as good a place as any to reiterate the need for overall guidelines for what makes for a good or even a great

Re: 3dpong request for hosting

2008-01-12 Thread Samuel Klein
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: Samuel Klein wrote: Yes, it would help to have distributed network services such as ones that let you say join the next available connect/pong game This is easy to implement within the current sharing framework. It just requires each game to pair off users

Re: 3dpong request for hosting

2008-01-11 Thread Samuel Klein
I've added a feature request for simple level editing without dropping to the terminal and hacking the source. What I like best about 3dpong is how easy it is to experiment with new levels. Also: please /substitute/ the game template when you use it; it is only a guide to contribution. leaving

Re: 3dpong request for hosting

2008-01-11 Thread Samuel Klein
a turn waiting abstraction available for 2 player activities, i.e. something that represents a line of players with simple rules like winner stays, loser goes to the back of the line. I know Connect could also use something like that. Best, Wade 2008/1/11 Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages

2008-01-06 Thread Samuel Klein
yes, deletions are recoverable. I didn't see the additions; were they just spam? Did someone talk to Star? SJ On Jan 6, 2008 12:36 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2008 5:39 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ffm wrote: User blocked, all articles

Re: Question about button mapping in Browse handheld mode

2007-12-30 Thread Samuel Klein
Jake, the behavior you see is as expected from recent builds. That feature is planned for implementation in the future (currently update.2). SJ On Dec 28, 2007 9:48 AM, Jake Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks like the most likely candidate: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2249

Re: TurtleArt Mandelbrot

2007-12-30 Thread Samuel Klein
Ben, that's neat. Speaking of fractals: Bernie has been working on sugarizing Gnu Xaos, and we were just tweaking an icon. It has a lovely tutorial about what fractals are that could serve as a model for other tutorials. SJ On Dec 30, 2007 12:58 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Community Support website for users

2007-12-27 Thread Samuel Klein
That's funny. support.laptop.org resolves for me just fine.(it's pointing to wiki.laptop.org/go/Support ) SJ On Dec 27, 2007 10:37 AM, Gerard J. Cerchio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Burns wrote: feel free to use the forum forum, web chat or the email list as a resource: [EMAIL

Re: Project Hosting request

2007-12-03 Thread Samuel Klein
Nice. The world's greatest word game. You might consider a handicap system where players can be restricted from playing short or common words. And of course in digital boggle one isn't limiited to 6-sided cubes... SJ On Dec 4, 2007 12:31 AM, Andrew Tamoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.

Re: Consistent sound

2007-11-19 Thread Samuel Klein
On Nov 19, 2007 12:31 PM, Gerard J. Cerchio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am just beginning to get involved with the OLPC so please forgive me if this topic is already covered. I am also new to python so my learning curve is somewhat steep. I am attempting to build a go game activity

Re: [Xiph-dev] What's the status of Xiph codecs support in the Helix project?

2007-11-18 Thread Samuel Klein
Ivo, perhaps we could come up wit ha set of compliance elements that typical users of OLPC laptops will need, as a case study for what free formats should be supported for other users to be considered 'complete'. Aaron, it would be tremendous to have speex working cleanly on the XOs, since a

hosting request: wikibrowser activity

2007-11-01 Thread Samuel Klein
1. Project name : wikibrowser 2. Existing website, if any : 3. One-line description : browser and synch tool for wikipedia and other online wikis 4. Longer description : an activity that uses the web activity to :

Manual/howto discussions tomorrow (Sat the 2th)

2007-10-26 Thread Samuel Klein
We are reviewing the various manuals and how-tos about using the XO and its interfaces tomorrow from 11:00 to 17:00 EST, in the Cambridge office for the hardy souls who are here or have trekked out, and in #olpc-content on freenode, for people online. If you have any documentation,

Re: T-shirt ideas / feedback

2007-10-25 Thread Samuel Klein
There's a lovely, simple t-shirt design that has been used to date [care of pentagram?], just a large XO on an orange or green background. Perhaps we can find a way to have those made on a more continuous basis and made available publicly. I don't think the square OLPC logo makes an ideal shirt

Re: Does sugar web browser support extensions?

2007-08-23 Thread Samuel Klein
Who was doing that earlier work? I would specifically like to find a way to get google gears to work under these circumstances, as a broadly useful open source project that has been well received and that is being used for many new applications online to make them fast offline... SJ On 8/17/07,

Re: Does sugar web browser support extensions?

2007-08-14 Thread Samuel Klein
what was the reason not to support firefox addons again? firefox runs smoothly on my B4... and it's pretty great to have access to Google Gears, for instance. SJ On 8/14/07, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean normal Firefox add-ons. It does not. We use a simpler core called

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