[sabayon-dev] equo exclude package
Hey all. I've proposed a feature to entropy/equo. I presume you will be interested :) https://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4964 -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] equo exclude package
Mask does the job as a package mask. When you try to upgrade a package with equo install/upgrade, it complains about the mask :) On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Geaaru gea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Why doesn't use equo mask command to avoid automatic install/remove of packages? It is already available. Ex: equo mask dev-db/mysql Bye G. Il 27/giu/2015 10:53, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org ha scritto: Hey all. I've proposed a feature to entropy/equo. I presume you will be interested :) https://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4964 -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] equo exclude package
By upgrading a package I mean upgrading a package that depends on the masked package. On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: Mask does the job as a package mask. When you try to upgrade a package with equo install/upgrade, it complains about the mask :) On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Geaaru gea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Why doesn't use equo mask command to avoid automatic install/remove of packages? It is already available. Ex: equo mask dev-db/mysql Bye G. Il 27/giu/2015 10:53, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org ha scritto: Hey all. I've proposed a feature to entropy/equo. I presume you will be interested :) https://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4964 -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Chroot + Genkernel-next
@Fabio What kind of container are you using? Or you're not using one and just separate partitions and stuff? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: You need to allow the chroot environment to issue mknod() syscalls. If you google a bit, it's a well known thing. Especially if you are using some kind of containerization. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:32 PM, mudler mud...@dark-lab.net wrote: Personally i think this is an unwanted feature, but i actually don't know, in my case i felt i was doing a quick and dirty hack. Fabio, can you put some light on this? For the docs: Maybe should be documented in the wiki as caveats/hack. Il 21 aprile 2015 17:44:49 CEST, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org ha scritto: Can I haz some tech details on that? And can we document it somewhere :D ? On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM, mudler mud...@dark-lab.net wrote: Yep, had similar issues, compiling the kernel from emerge. putting for debug an id call inside genkernel scripts revealed that the building process was with the portage user, so i solved allowing mknode to portage Il 21 aprile 2015 17:00:14 CEST, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org ha scritto: Anyone had problems with mknod not having permission within chroot (while using genkernel-next) ? * initramfs: Initializing... * Appending base_layout cpio data... mknod: 'console': Operation not permitted * ERROR: cannot mknod * * -- Grepping log... -- -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Inviato dal mio dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail. Perdonate la brevità. -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Inviato dal mio dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail. Perdonate la brevità. -- Fabio Erculiani -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Chroot + Genkernel-next
P.S.: mounting /dev/{pts,shm} would've been too easy, we're doing it with
/dev/ mount already :P
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Steven Cristian
stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote:
@Fabio What kind of container are you using? Or you're not using one and
just separate partitions and stuff?
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org
wrote:
You need to allow the chroot environment to issue mknod() syscalls.
If you google a bit, it's a well known thing. Especially if you are
using some kind of containerization.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:32 PM, mudler mud...@dark-lab.net wrote:
Personally i think this is an unwanted feature, but i actually don't
know,
in my case i felt i was doing a quick and dirty hack.
Fabio, can you put some light on this?
For the docs:
Maybe should be documented in the wiki as caveats/hack.
Il 21 aprile 2015 17:44:49 CEST, Steven Cristian
stefan.crist...@best.eu.org ha scritto:
Can I haz some tech details on that? And can we document it somewhere
:D ?
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM, mudler mud...@dark-lab.net wrote:
Yep, had similar issues, compiling the kernel from emerge. putting for
debug an id call inside genkernel scripts revealed that the building
process was with the portage user, so i solved allowing mknode to
portage
Il 21 aprile 2015 17:00:14 CEST, Steven Cristian
stefan.crist...@best.eu.org ha scritto:
Anyone had problems with mknod not having permission within chroot
(while using genkernel-next) ?
* initramfs: Initializing...
* Appending base_layout cpio data...
mknod: 'console': Operation not permitted
* ERROR: cannot mknod
*
* -- Grepping log... --
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Re: [sabayon-dev] Chroot + Genkernel-next
Can I haz some tech details on that? And can we document it somewhere :D ? On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM, mudler mud...@dark-lab.net wrote: Yep, had similar issues, compiling the kernel from emerge. putting for debug an id call inside genkernel scripts revealed that the building process was with the portage user, so i solved allowing mknode to portage Il 21 aprile 2015 17:00:14 CEST, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org ha scritto: Anyone had problems with mknod not having permission within chroot (while using genkernel-next) ? * initramfs: Initializing... * Appending base_layout cpio data... mknod: 'console': Operation not permitted * ERROR: cannot mknod * * -- Grepping log... -- -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Inviato dal mio dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail. Perdonate la brevità. -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
[sabayon-dev] Question: does equo rescue generate really create equo.db?
(Warning: This is just a *test*, treat is as so. It is *not a bug report*. Something happened to 3 people in equo-295) /var/lib/entropy/client/database/insert-arch-here/equo.db check its file path *after* equo rescue generate. If it does *not*, I firmly advice you to revise it; since we @ RogentOS Group have a minor and quite obvious solution to this already. -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] equo install history
better use sort -u in this case On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Mitch Harder mitch.har...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:16:56PM +0100, Sławomir Nizio wrote: Hello, Your shell history, /var/log/entropy/entropy.log, *possibly* timestamp of files under /var/db/pkg or equo.sh from https://github.com/Enlik/misc. Although it is based on informal time stamps, I've been using this command for years to display installed packages sorted by installation time: find /var/db/pkg/ -iname 'USE' -printf %TY-%Tm-%Td %TH:%TM:%TS %P\n | sort | less -M -- Main OS Architect at Project RoGentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating Systems) Group. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Kogaion GNU/Linux and Argent GNU/Linux tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] app-misc/querypkg 2.2 with download_entropy_packages.sh
So when we will see a Portage rewritten in GO-lang, together with entropy in GO-lang :P? Heheheheh, would love to see that and all the gentoo tools with it. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Sławomir Nizio slawomir.ni...@sabayon.org wrote: W dniu 10.09.2014 o 19:12, Jerrod Frost pisze: Wow! thats nice! Can we integrate this into equo? I don't think we should. They two projects serve different purpose (in general, equo uses the local database; querypkg queries the remote server), they are written in different languages (equo - Python; querypkg - Perl) and are maintained by different people. I think the projects are fine with the current setup! -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Hey all.
I've asked this before asking in IRC, don't worry. Forgot to mention I've put it on the devs ML before asking, heheh. I had a hunch it's the spinbase ISO in the first time, but wasn't sure, so the IRC explanation was what I needed to know. Thanks :) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Mitch Harder mitch.har...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: I have had some rought time remaking a spinbase with my chroot core. My question is, where can I find the actual structure of amd64_core2010? More precise, this line: https://github.com/Sabayon/molecules/blob/master/molecules/sabayon-amd64-spinbase.spec#L13 Is it a stage4 recompiled with entropy and a few other configs? Hey Steven: I think we straightened some of this out on IRC. Let us know if you still have issues. It is understood that running Matter to make a Live Image is confusing at first. So, to bring everyone following this M/L thread up-to-date with our IRC discussion 'amd64_core2010' is the directory location of the spinbase chroot, but you would probably customize this location in your own Matter setup. For us (Sabayon), the actual structure of amd64_core2010 can be replicated by using our spinbase ISO image, and updating it with entropy (within the chroot). Once you set up your own spinbase chroot, you can begin customizing to meet your objectives. -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
[sabayon-dev] Hey all.
I have had some rought time remaking a spinbase with my chroot core. My question is, where can I find the actual structure of amd64_core2010? More precise, this line: https://github.com/Sabayon/molecules/blob/master/molecules/sabayon-amd64-spinbase.spec#L13 Is it a stage4 recompiled with entropy and a few other configs? -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] something like --depclean for equo
Yep, that's the good logic On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Sławomir Nizio slawomir.ni...@sabayon.org wrote: W dniu 10.09.2014 o 03:28, Steven Cristian pisze: did you devise a schema for all the 'unused' deps? There are some unused deps which other deps of other programs are directly or indirectly dependent on. If some package is used (directly or indirectly) only by a package installed by user, it is considered to be needed. If some package is used only by packages installed as dependencies (which are not dependencies of packages installed by user, and so on), they are considered to be unused. -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] something like --depclean for equo
Interesting topic. Question @ Enlik, did you devise a schema for all the 'unused' deps? There are some unused deps which other deps of other programs are directly or indirectly dependent on. (I was working on a similar concept some time ago, only worked on a schema, though) On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Sławomir Nizio slawomir.ni...@sabayon.org wrote: Hello, There is 'equo unused' and it works, but I was thinking of making something that works more like emerge --depclean (if I understand correctly how it works). I have forked the git repository of Entropy and made such a change. It can be found here: https://github.com/Enlik/entropy/commits/master. [entropy.client] equo unused that works more like emerge --depclean It's more like a draft. It works, it prints packages that might be uninstalled, but several options are ignored, etc. to test: git clone…; cd client; equo unused The change is simple, but treat it as experimental (no guarantees!). I don't know the Entropy code base well (heck, I barely do), and I didn't spend much time on looking how things work, but anyway - what's important: - the dependency calculation doesn't seem to be costly! I may have oversimplified something, though; - it seems to work quite well in terms on what is printed (except that maybe spm-installed packages should be treated as installed by user). It works this way: select all packages that are marked as being installed by user, collect their dependencies recursively, and print packages that are installed but not on that collection. I am curious on what you think. Fabio: maybe you would be interested in this as well. -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Entropy-274 : quickpkg problem
I can confirm I had this problem too with version -274. Since you reported it now, do you have some logs of entropy? [I deleted mine] On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM, sabayonino sabayon...@gmail.com wrote: Il 23/03/2014 13:00, devel-requ...@lists.sabayon.org ha scritto: Entropy-274 : quickpkg problem (sabayonino) SL-64 updated (weekly repo) Xfce and KDE This prb still remains the same with Entropy-277 also I can't create any quickpkg # equo pkg quickpkg package sabayon ~ # equo pkg quickpkg firefox ╠ @@ generazione pacchetto: www-client/firefox-28.0sabayon ~ # no *.tbz2 saved into /var/tmp/entropy # equo pkg quickpkg --savedir path package sabayon ~ # equo pkg quickpkg --savedir ./ firefox ╠ @@ generazione pacchetto: www-client/firefox-28.0sabayon ~ # no *.tbz2 saved in path (current directory for previous example) any idea ? :) tnx -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Wired networking does work from under the recovery shell
Wired networking for NetworkManager? If so, you must restart NetworkManager. Besides, for what I know, clean install goes for SystemD :-? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:37 AM, saba bugs sabathrowa...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else experiencing this problem under the recovery shell: wired networking does not work. Even with: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start Warning: net.eth0 is already starting waiting forever for it to start. It's a clean install from the x64 gnome latest iso file. Sabin -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] build error
Did he do a --sync to emerge? In order to download the gentoo eclasses?
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Mitch Harder mitch.har...@sabayonlinux.org
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Roelof Wobben r.wob...@home.nl wrote:
Hello,
I try to update Cinnamon.
But I see this output :
ebuild cinnamon-2.0.14.ebuild manifest
* ERROR: gnome-extra/cinnamon-2.0.14::sabayon failed (depend phase):
* autotools.eclass could not be found by inherit()
*
* Call stack:
*ebuild.sh, line 545: Called source
'/usr/local/portage/gnome-extra/cinnamon/cinnamon-2.0.14.ebuild'
* cinnamon-2.0.14.ebuild, line 11: Called inherit 'autotools'
'eutils'
'gnome2' 'multilib' 'pax-utils' 'python-single-r1'
*ebuild.sh, line 257: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* [[ -z ${location} ]] die ${1}.eclass could not be found
by
inherit()
*
* If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=gnome-extra/cinnamon-2.0.14::sabayon'`,
* the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=gnome-extra/cinnamon-2.0.14::sabayon'`.
* Working directory: '/usr/lib64/portage/pym'
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/cinnamon-2.0.14/work/cinnamon-2.0.14'
I have setup my local repo at /usr/local/portage.
You need to set up a layout.conf file in you local repository.
This will instruct portage to use gentoo's eclasses for the ebuilds in
your repo.
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Repository_format/metadata/layout.conf
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Re: [sabayon-dev] build error
Actually it doesn't have a --sync option, because it's binary oriented. If you build things with portage, then portage must take the eclasses for itself. Especially if you do a ebuild file.ebuild manifest The ebuilds that are in /usr/portage/eclasses either they must already be there or you must emerge --sync to draw them in. Do you see autotools.eclass in /usr/portage/eclass ? On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Roelof Wobben r.wob...@home.nl wrote: Steven Cristian schreef op 20-2-2014 13:42: Did he do a --sync to emerge? In order to download the gentoo eclasses? Nope. or equo must have a --sync option. I will make a layout.conf file and hope everything builds fine. Roelof --- Dit e-mailbericht bevat geen virussen en malware omdat avast! Antivirus-bescherming actief is. http://www.avast.com -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] build error
Then what did you try to do with: ebuild file.ebuild manifest ? On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Roelof Wobben r.wob...@home.nl wrote: Steven Cristian schreef op 20-2-2014 14:29: Actually it doesn't have a --sync option, because it's binary oriented. If you build things with portage, then portage must take the eclasses for itself. Especially if you do a ebuild file.ebuild manifest The ebuilds that are in /usr/portage/eclasses either they must already be there or you must emerge --sync to draw them in. Do you see autotools.eclass in /usr/portage/eclass ? Now Im a little bit confused. The wiki says do not mix emerge and equo. Roelof --- Dit e-mailbericht bevat geen virussen en malware omdat avast! Antivirus-bescherming actief is. http://www.avast.com -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] build error
Building equo packages means you need to start building with portage. Portage ebuilds create packages, eit + equo puts them into repos [eit] and manages them [equo] I can help you with the technique of building packages if you need :) I've made a special tutorial for funtoo also to build their equo packages. Here it is, and send me private email of you need further help! http://www.funtoo.org/Entropy On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Roelof Wobben r.wob...@home.nl wrote: Steven Cristian schreef op 20-2-2014 16:00: Then what did you try to do with: ebuild file.ebuild manifest ? Oke, I did that because I could not find how to build packages with equo. I only found that command to make the manifest. Roelof --- Dit e-mailbericht bevat geen virussen en malware omdat avast! Antivirus-bescherming actief is. http://www.avast.com -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] [Bug 4601] seabios 1.7.2.2 breaks windows7 guest
My thoughts also, but I'm curious if others had this regression in same versions of other distros? There are many reasons for which seabios could go to hell over night with the new version. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: When the bug is clearly related to upstream (qemu?) projects, filing bugs against distributions is not really helping anything. You must file bugs upstream, it's not that we're going to downgrade stuff easily, you better get the regression solved there. Then, we could add patches on top of the latest release, but downgrading is something you can completely forget about. -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] [Bug 4601] seabios 1.7.2.2 breaks windows7 guest
File a bug report and link us here :) On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Mohan R mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Latest seabios breaks current Windows7 Guests. I have to manually compile seabios 1.6.3 to fix the problem. Also, libguestfs is missing in Sabayon, but available gentoo. I have to install it through portage. Please look into these two problems. Thanks, Mohan R -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] [Bug 4601] seabios 1.7.2.2 breaks windows7 guest
Hmm... did you downgrade for a test? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Mohan R mohan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: What's this got to do with Linux? :) Please read about your operating system and about Linux. This is a Sabayon Linux mail list you are writing at. If you have a valid problem about your Sabayon Linux and not your Windows, please refrain the bug report. If you do not understand what am I saying, any further emails on the invalid bug report can or will be bannable I'm not a stupid who post something not related to linux to a linux distro development mailing list. this is something related to qemu (virtualization software if you are not aware of already). qemu uses seabios to boot guest operating systems. recent update to seabios package in Sabayon breaks windows7 guests when starting them using qemu. Thats why I'm reporting a bug in this mailing list. I hope I clarified things better now. Also, I found this following link which explains more about this bug, It also contains a screenshot which is what exactly I'm getting, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-07/msg01340.html Thanks, Mohan R -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Contribution
There is a feature that lists all unused installed deps, you may take a look into that. But still I support the idea with unneeded installed deps. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:08:23AM +0200, Giacomo Picchiarelli wrote: Cool, do you need help for some specific project? Here are some entropy/equo features I'm missing if you're ever interested in developing them: - more fine-grain locks (e.g.: allow equo search while in equo install) - list uneeded installed dependencies -- Nicolas Sebrecht -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Contribution
the idea with listing the unneeded installed deps* On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: There is a feature that lists all unused installed deps, you may take a look into that. But still I support the idea with unneeded installed deps. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:08:23AM +0200, Giacomo Picchiarelli wrote: Cool, do you need help for some specific project? Here are some entropy/equo features I'm missing if you're ever interested in developing them: - more fine-grain locks (e.g.: allow equo search while in equo install) - list uneeded installed dependencies -- Nicolas Sebrecht -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Daily XFCE boots to XDM
I can confirm this. xdm should have lightdm setup after (or while) the sabayon-live functions are running. I will again try a boot this night and check if it's set right. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Wolfden wolf...@gmail.com wrote: I want to stress this is a live session to repeat download xfce daily iso create a live usb with iso boot it expected results - XFCE desktop actual results - XDM login box On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Wolfden wolf...@gmail.com wrote: The daily XFCE hasn't boot properly in the last 3 weeks. I figured as we switched over to systemd it would work out eventually, but posting anyway. XFCE boots up to the XMD login box, which is a weird looking box, I don't recall ever seeing this. I check the /etc/conf.d/xdm and display manager is set to xdm I believe it should be set to gdm since that is what is installed. I change to gdm than issue systemctl stop xdm systemctl status xdm and it reports it dead systemctl start xdm and I am brought back to the xdm login box, as if systemd doesn't use the /etc/conf.d/xdm file. I have no idea if it does or doesn't as I a noob to systemd. So hoping to look at log files and apparently systemd don't make the log files? I can't find /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg A side note, I have to edit the grub line and remove all that fancy graphical commands to get display to work. If I leave the default grub line as is, my monitor goes to sleep and I can't do a thing to get it to display. ctrl alt f1 does nothing. If I remove everything starting with splash to --quiet in grub I get my display. Intel graphics - I can maybe get more info once the xdm issue is solved. What is best way to get info on the xdm issue? -- KJS ~wolfden~ -- KJS ~wolfden~ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Daily XFCE boots to XDM
Well, of course it werks if you execute lxdm manually, that's for sure. And also, the drivers are set correctly and it works out of the box if you boot. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Wolfden wolf...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks The joys of learning something new :-) On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: I will have a look at this as soon as possible. I am busy until after the 6th. You don't want to edit files, you want to systemctl enable lxdm and systemctl start lxdm. -- Fabio Erculiani -- KJS ~wolfden~ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] debian systemd survey results
Well, not sure what he's trying to do, but some things are more than sure: he does not like competition, he does not like when somebody is not of his opinion, he is well payed by Red Hat, he loves pink, he escalated quickly from avahi to pulse and systemd, all of his targets were core-apps of the gnu/linux distros. Do I see a pattern here? On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Michele de...@gmx.it wrote: Wow I thought Lennart was hated mostly because of the crappy sound stack he made... not because he's about to take over the world! I'm doing some research on the subject, I'm really not sure what this all is about. Thanks for the infos :) mic On 31/05/2013 18:44, Steven Cristian wrote: Lennart thinks*. Sorry for spamming. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org mailto:stefan.cristian@best.**eu.orgstefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: meh. I should start comparing to Stalin, Bismark or any other totalitarian. it's still freaking totalitarian. Only because Lennart things what he's doing is good, that's not enough, who knows what he'll do with this amount of power over all distros. History aqcuited Linus because of his work and his knowledge transfer over time, but this guy is a total wacko. If you're a totalitarian, then damn consume your time in helping out people to understand your freaking code, not like Lennart. SystemD *may* improve in time, but many things, and I say *many* will remain scars because of his attitude. Or maybe, better said: the pink-tailed g@yeek will ever grow up? I didn't grow up with his programming power, nor his code, but I would never piss on the people that trust me. Nor do I sell my soul to some Red Hat monarchism-loving corporates. I dunno what law governs Lennart, maybe egoism or egocentrism (when I was at the FOSDEM, he absolutely blew up when I told him that an alternative should always exist. He absolutely blew up again when I told him (the public + him included) 'everyone knows Lennart's code is awful'. What's that gotta tell ya?), but I sure know he's a total maniac. Hope he learns from Linus, or at least make himself a SystemD NGO to keep things formally balanced, I dunno. Hell loads of psychical problems with that guy, that I cannot even think of concluding even one actual and practical solution! So yeah, go with SystemD, trust Lennart. It's all I have to say. If you really believe in that guy, I refrain myself from any other critics. @Ian Godwin law is funny, we all respect it from time to time, although my case is strictly about totalitarianism, not only Hitler or the nazis. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Ian Whyman v00...@v00d00.net mailto:v00...@v00d00.net wrote: Wow. Just wow. Because that is not an outlandish thing to write: This free software developer is like Hitler because he is doing something I don't agree with Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Godwin%27s_lawhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law On 31 May 2013 17:05, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org mailto:stefan.cristian@best.**eu.orgstefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: His work was now appointed*, actually On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org mailto:stefan.cristian@best.**eu.orgstefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: Yeah. Judge an economy by its quality, not by its leaders Sven Hassel, famous nazi-alleged writer once said in its operas. Not saying you're like Sven, but that's not an argument. Lennart is clearly a dictator and his software (analogical: economy) although it is superb-written and helped by hell knows how many, it is still under his command. He was now appointed cancellor over many distros, I wonder what's next? Yeah, wonderful performance, interesting complexity of the program and maybe good code, but ... still, what's next? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com mailto:danilo.pianini@gmail.**comdanilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Judge a software for its quality, not for its writer. 2013/5/31 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org mailto:stefan.cristian@best.**eu.orgstefan.crist...@best.eu.org : I love change when no idiots [Lennarts] are implied. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent
Re: [sabayon-dev] debian systemd survey results
I love change when no idiots [Lennarts] are implied. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.comwrote: Some like change some don't On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Svanto Viit svantov...@gmail.com wrote: Thought, this could be of interest: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html -- SvantoViit -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] debian systemd survey results
His work was now appointed*, actually On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: Yeah. Judge an economy by its quality, not by its leaders Sven Hassel, famous nazi-alleged writer once said in its operas. Not saying you're like Sven, but that's not an argument. Lennart is clearly a dictator and his software (analogical: economy) although it is superb-written and helped by hell knows how many, it is still under his command. He was now appointed cancellor over many distros, I wonder what's next? Yeah, wonderful performance, interesting complexity of the program and maybe good code, but ... still, what's next? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: Judge a software for its quality, not for its writer. 2013/5/31 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: I love change when no idiots [Lennarts] are implied. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.com wrote: Some like change some don't On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Svanto Viit svantov...@gmail.com wrote: Thought, this could be of interest: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html -- SvantoViit -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] debian systemd survey results
Yeah. Judge an economy by its quality, not by its leaders Sven Hassel, famous nazi-alleged writer once said in its operas. Not saying you're like Sven, but that's not an argument. Lennart is clearly a dictator and his software (analogical: economy) although it is superb-written and helped by hell knows how many, it is still under his command. He was now appointed cancellor over many distros, I wonder what's next? Yeah, wonderful performance, interesting complexity of the program and maybe good code, but ... still, what's next? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: Judge a software for its quality, not for its writer. 2013/5/31 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: I love change when no idiots [Lennarts] are implied. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.com wrote: Some like change some don't On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Svanto Viit svantov...@gmail.com wrote: Thought, this could be of interest: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html -- SvantoViit -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] debian systemd survey results
Lennart thinks*. Sorry for spamming. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: meh. I should start comparing to Stalin, Bismark or any other totalitarian. it's still freaking totalitarian. Only because Lennart things what he's doing is good, that's not enough, who knows what he'll do with this amount of power over all distros. History aqcuited Linus because of his work and his knowledge transfer over time, but this guy is a total wacko. If you're a totalitarian, then damn consume your time in helping out people to understand your freaking code, not like Lennart. SystemD *may* improve in time, but many things, and I say *many* will remain scars because of his attitude. Or maybe, better said: the pink-tailed g@yeek will ever grow up? I didn't grow up with his programming power, nor his code, but I would never piss on the people that trust me. Nor do I sell my soul to some Red Hat monarchism-loving corporates. I dunno what law governs Lennart, maybe egoism or egocentrism (when I was at the FOSDEM, he absolutely blew up when I told him that an alternative should always exist. He absolutely blew up again when I told him (the public + him included) 'everyone knows Lennart's code is awful'. What's that gotta tell ya?), but I sure know he's a total maniac. Hope he learns from Linus, or at least make himself a SystemD NGO to keep things formally balanced, I dunno. Hell loads of psychical problems with that guy, that I cannot even think of concluding even one actual and practical solution! So yeah, go with SystemD, trust Lennart. It's all I have to say. If you really believe in that guy, I refrain myself from any other critics. @Ian Godwin law is funny, we all respect it from time to time, although my case is strictly about totalitarianism, not only Hitler or the nazis. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Ian Whyman v00...@v00d00.net wrote: Wow. Just wow. Because that is not an outlandish thing to write: This free software developer is like Hitler because he is doing something I don't agree with Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law On 31 May 2013 17:05, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: His work was now appointed*, actually On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: Yeah. Judge an economy by its quality, not by its leaders Sven Hassel, famous nazi-alleged writer once said in its operas. Not saying you're like Sven, but that's not an argument. Lennart is clearly a dictator and his software (analogical: economy) although it is superb-written and helped by hell knows how many, it is still under his command. He was now appointed cancellor over many distros, I wonder what's next? Yeah, wonderful performance, interesting complexity of the program and maybe good code, but ... still, what's next? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Judge a software for its quality, not for its writer. 2013/5/31 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: I love change when no idiots [Lennarts] are implied. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.com wrote: Some like change some don't On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Svanto Viit svantov...@gmail.com wrote: Thought, this could be of interest: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html -- SvantoViit -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian
Re: [sabayon-dev] debian systemd survey results
meh. I should start comparing to Stalin, Bismark or any other totalitarian. it's still freaking totalitarian. Only because Lennart things what he's doing is good, that's not enough, who knows what he'll do with this amount of power over all distros. History aqcuited Linus because of his work and his knowledge transfer over time, but this guy is a total wacko. If you're a totalitarian, then damn consume your time in helping out people to understand your freaking code, not like Lennart. SystemD *may* improve in time, but many things, and I say *many* will remain scars because of his attitude. Or maybe, better said: the pink-tailed g@yeek will ever grow up? I didn't grow up with his programming power, nor his code, but I would never piss on the people that trust me. Nor do I sell my soul to some Red Hat monarchism-loving corporates. I dunno what law governs Lennart, maybe egoism or egocentrism (when I was at the FOSDEM, he absolutely blew up when I told him that an alternative should always exist. He absolutely blew up again when I told him (the public + him included) 'everyone knows Lennart's code is awful'. What's that gotta tell ya?), but I sure know he's a total maniac. Hope he learns from Linus, or at least make himself a SystemD NGO to keep things formally balanced, I dunno. Hell loads of psychical problems with that guy, that I cannot even think of concluding even one actual and practical solution! So yeah, go with SystemD, trust Lennart. It's all I have to say. If you really believe in that guy, I refrain myself from any other critics. @Ian Godwin law is funny, we all respect it from time to time, although my case is strictly about totalitarianism, not only Hitler or the nazis. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Ian Whyman v00...@v00d00.net wrote: Wow. Just wow. Because that is not an outlandish thing to write: This free software developer is like Hitler because he is doing something I don't agree with Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law On 31 May 2013 17:05, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: His work was now appointed*, actually On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: Yeah. Judge an economy by its quality, not by its leaders Sven Hassel, famous nazi-alleged writer once said in its operas. Not saying you're like Sven, but that's not an argument. Lennart is clearly a dictator and his software (analogical: economy) although it is superb-written and helped by hell knows how many, it is still under his command. He was now appointed cancellor over many distros, I wonder what's next? Yeah, wonderful performance, interesting complexity of the program and maybe good code, but ... still, what's next? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Judge a software for its quality, not for its writer. 2013/5/31 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: I love change when no idiots [Lennarts] are implied. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.com wrote: Some like change some don't On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Svanto Viit svantov...@gmail.com wrote: Thought, this could be of interest: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html -- SvantoViit -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https
Re: [sabayon-dev] debian systemd survey results
And I totally agree on this :) On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Svanto Viit svantov...@gmail.com wrote: Thought, this could be of interest: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html -- SvantoViit -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] [RFC] Ending 32bit support?
I will still maintain it on my repositories no matter the costs, I still have some friends which maintain old servers and old desktops. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: Still using it on several systems: three servers and a Minimac (I'm using it for building a smart pervasive screen). Don't forget that many systems still exist with decent performance and no amd64 support, Pentium 4 for instance. Moreover, I can see many users still download the x86 version (I'm seeding the torrents). It's not dead at all. I would wait a few years. In my opinion x86 is still worth the resources we are dedicating to it. 2013/5/1 Vojtěch Pszczólka v.pszczo...@sh.cvut.cz: Despite of i'm not developing Sabayon, i can't see any reason for maintaining i386. How looks typical i386 user :-D ? Wolfden wolf...@gmail.comnapsal/a: I for killing it off too On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Ian Whyman v00...@v00d00.net wrote: As always I am very much pro this. On 1 May 2013 07:30, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: So, x86_64 is more than 10 years old now, and it's time to think again about the i686 architecture. I am proposing to gradually drop support for x86 32bit by the end of 2013 (the how would deserve a separate discussion). Is there any serious reason not to kill 32bit? Maintaining it takes 50% of our resources (time and space) and we could just dedicate some of them to the other emerging architecture called ARM. This is just an RFC for now, don't get scared. Cheers, -- Fabio Erculiani -- KJS ~wolfden~ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Multiple monitor issues on nVidia
One question I have, Danilo, do you have Optimus tech on that one? Thanks, Steven On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: Steps to reproduce: * Connect a VGA adapter * Using nvidia-settings, xrandr, or KDE's Display and Monitor, try to set the extended desktop Expected results: both monitors are on, the user gets a single extended desktop Actual results: the main monitor is still on, but the secondary have no signal Randomly, it works. So try it at least a couple of times if this procedure works for you. Tested on a desktop with GTX550Ti and on a laptop with a Quadro (cannot remember the exact model now). Rolling back to 304.xx on Quadro didn't solve the issue. 2013/4/27 Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org: Please detail the issue. -- Fabio Erculiani -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Multiple monitor issues on nVidia
Thanks lad, I'll be watching this On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: No. On those with Optimus the VGA is connected to the Intel device, and works as expected. 2013/4/27 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: One question I have, Danilo, do you have Optimus tech on that one? Thanks, Steven On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Steps to reproduce: * Connect a VGA adapter * Using nvidia-settings, xrandr, or KDE's Display and Monitor, try to set the extended desktop Expected results: both monitors are on, the user gets a single extended desktop Actual results: the main monitor is still on, but the secondary have no signal Randomly, it works. So try it at least a couple of times if this procedure works for you. Tested on a desktop with GTX550Ti and on a laptop with a Quadro (cannot remember the exact model now). Rolling back to 304.xx on Quadro didn't solve the issue. 2013/4/27 Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org: Please detail the issue. -- Fabio Erculiani -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Observations with latest
If upgrading makes it possible to survive after upgrade ... Then so be it. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: systemd will replace udev as device manager. udev is a subset of systemd nowadays and it's built from the same sources. This will make possible to start supporting both openrc and systemd init systems. -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] RFC: switching to CVS
The history could be kept anyway on the web. I will post soon another reply on CVS. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: The idea looks good to me. I also wonder, do we really need history at all? We are supposed to know what and why we did modifications in the past. My 0.02$... -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Dr.Web Investigates On Linux.Sshdkit That Attacks Linux Servers
I can confirm it affects only Red Hat systems, since today I heard of it at my corporation. Hope there will be a solution :) On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Joost Ruis joost.r...@sabayon.org wrote: This only seems to affect Red Hat based systems. I think that somehow the attacker has been able to alter some RPM package(s) on some mirror(s). These packages later got installed on servers as updates infecting those systems. I think this is also the reason I wasn't aware of this thing yet, it is a distro specific security flaw. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Pavol Cupka pavol.cu...@gmail.com wrote: this is from the infected server root@server1 [/var/log]# stat /lib/libkeyutils.so.1.9 File: `/lib/libkeyutils.so.1.9' Size: 26904 Blocks: 56 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 6ah/106dInode: 357728408 Links: 1 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: (0/root) Gid: (0/root) Access: 2013-02-18 07:28:21.0 -0500 Modify: 2007-01-06 02:57:38.0 -0500 Change: 2013-02-18 07:28:06.0 -0500 the file libkeyutils.so* are part of the sys-apps/keyutils package the file is slightly smaller stat /lib/libkeyutils.so.1.4 File: ‘/lib/libkeyutils.so.1.4’ Size: 9560Blocks: 24 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 801h/2049d Inode: 33101 Links: 1 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: (0/root) Gid: (0/root) Access: 2013-03-22 12:19:56.674851171 +0100 Modify: 2012-12-02 23:16:09.0 +0100 Change: 2013-02-19 02:01:18.301392129 +0100 Birth: - you can also check the files using the equery k keyutils command, or using the sabayons build-in check in equo (I don't know the name of it as I don't use sabayon anymore) On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Andre Jaenisch andrejaeni...@googlemail.com wrote: 2013/3/22 Joost Ruis joost.r...@sabayon.org: I checked my system here ( amd64 ) and it seems we are not affected by this. On this page you can find some tests you can perform. http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/CompSystem Can you attend it to http://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4108 ? The thread is broken somehow ... -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] heads up: Entropy 182 and new .ini-like repositories.conf.d/* files support
On the blog would be nice, I'm always reading lxnay's blog. Also, the details are described in the commits if you need further infos, Andre :-) Cheers, Noxis On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Andre Jaenisch andrejaeni...@googlemail.com wrote: 2013/3/12 Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org: Old configuration files will keep working. In particular, repositories declared inside /etc/entropy/repositories.conf will continue to work for 1.5 years from now, while repositories declared inside /etc/entropy/server.conf will continue to work for 2+ years from now. I would like to ask you to point this out in a blog article and/or forum post, so users will be informed. I remember several issues with repos the last days, so this could be clarify some points. However, if you don't have the time for writing a forum post, I'd happy to do so :-) Regards André (aka Ryuno-Ki) -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Development
Hey Hanez and welcome :) About the documentation: if you're doing ebuilds, then you are already prepared for Sabayon :-) Feel free to browse the code http://git.sabayon.org/ the two overlays for-gentoo.git and sabayon.git, those need more strict 'handling'. Best regards, Steven / DeathNoxis On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Johannes Findeisen mail...@hanez.orgwrote: Hello all, I switched from Gentoo to Sabayon some weeks ago. After a try in a virtual machine some month ago I decided to run Gentoo in a virtual machine and as host to use Sabayon. I am very impressed about the stability and work you all have done to make this wonderful Gentoo based distribution possible. Thanks! Since I am using Gentoo since 2001 or 2002 am very deep into that distribution. I wrote at that time some ebuilds and switched some servers from distribution X to Gentoo for getting more performance... ;) My servers are still running Gentoo but my desktop is Sabayon. My question: Is there some documentation about the development workflow for Sabayon? I really would like to come deep into Sabayon like I was in Gentoo. Some entry points would be very nice! Thank you very much. Regards, hanez -- Johannes Findeisen mail...@hanez.org -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] b43 and wl
In my team there's a sabayon user that's having problems with b43 and another one that's having probs with wl. Funny fact is that 'wl' works for both after some teasing of the modules, but b43 still has issues. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: Guys, I'm experiencing tons of issues related to WiFi recently, and I discovered that with this commit: https://git.sabayon.org/overlays/sabayon.git/commit/?id=c6651ab07f1069807778b2559a4d1e5dbb95ee62 b43 was resurrected. This led to poor connection stability, and issues with WPA2Enterprise/PEAP. I guess this edit was very poorly tested. Can we switch back to wl BEFORE releasing S11? And possibly NOT change the driver without proper testing? -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] the status of Sabayon on ARM
The gcc*. Sorry for big typo :-) On Saturday, January 19, 2013, Steven Cristian wrote: Maybe this could comprise of some difficult process of preparing the kernel for cross compile. This takes time, and Fabio does not have that specific time. In this case, would be more ok to just buy the arm and natively compile the code. Cheers, BlackNoxis On Saturday, January 19, 2013, Michele wrote: Can you elaborate on that? I had the same question tho I didn't want to add it to my previous email. Even at ARM (the company) they cross-compile whenever they can. mic On 19/01/2013 14:56, Fabio Erculiani wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Feeyo | NixDevs fe...@nixdevs.com wrote: Why buy boards to compile ARM code? If you can just export the toolchain to compile. An easy: export ARCH=arm export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-**gnueabi- export PATH=$PATH:~/CodeSourcery/**Sourcery_G++_Lite/bin export CFLAGS=-march=armv6j or-whatever-arm-march and-whatever-more make -j24 Would fix it right? No. Regards, -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] the status of Sabayon on ARM
And that. People should know that cross compile is not always fulltime credible. On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: The vast majority of packages DO NOT SUPPORT cross compiling. End of the story. You seem to take cross compiler support for granted =__= -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Merry Christmas to All
Marry Xmas y'all! :D Best regards and respects to everybody! /me goes back to the coffin, too daylight outside. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Sławomir Nizio slawomir.ni...@sabayon.orgwrote: A moment to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Looking forward to seeing yas in 2013 to make Sabayon even better! Thanks, Merry Christmas and best wishes for all. ☺ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] VDPAU to be removed??
Anyway, I'll maintain it in my fork whatever the cost :) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: I hope so, I hope somebody verified it before dropping such a component! 2012/12/5 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: Maybe it is maintained in another ebuild somehow? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, why the last weekly updates propose the removal of VDPAU? ## [sabayon-weekly] x11-libs/vdpau-video-0.7.3 [1.1MB] Would you like to remove them? It's the only way for old nVidia systems to reproduce HD videos smoothly. -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] VDPAU to be removed??
We're doing tests on the old long-term support, that's why we're keeping it. Patchup some things So yeah, that's a good thing it got renamed after all On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: It was renamed to x11-libs/libva-vdpau-driver 2012/12/5 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: Anyway, I'll maintain it in my fork whatever the cost :) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: I hope so, I hope somebody verified it before dropping such a component! 2012/12/5 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: Maybe it is maintained in another ebuild somehow? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, why the last weekly updates propose the removal of VDPAU? ## [sabayon-weekly] x11-libs/vdpau-video-0.7.3 [1.1MB] Would you like to remove them? It's the only way for old nVidia systems to reproduce HD videos smoothly. -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Next Round of Hardened
We may need to think on performance enhance too after some time if hardened has some bad effect. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: Mitch, +1 on the plan, feel free to go ahead and do what you need to do in build.git. Just pay attention to stuff like: conf/intel/portage/env/dev-lang/python -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] Next Round of Hardened
You sure there won't be any optimization of the code breakage and no performance cost? I'm kinda scared of hardening almost all packages of the system On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Joost Ruis joost.r...@sabayonlinux.orgwrote: Fine with me. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Mitch Harder mitch.har...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: We need to decide on our next step for rolling out hardened Sabayon. My proposal would be (1) Add all the @system packages to the white list and rebuild them. (2) Add Xorg to the white list during a time period we'll be able to react to any issues. If no issues, (3) From here, go from white-listing to black-listing. As far as it goes, I've done several systems on Hardened now, and I've never had any run-time package problems resulting from just letting everything go hardened as they're rebuilt. I've had a very few build problems, but it has been a while since I've ran into any of those. But I think it would be best to flip the white-list/black-list switch with some lead time before the next freeze. -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs which seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux https://plus.google.com/106559511636021124919/ Google+
Re: [sabayon-dev] AMD Catalyst 12.6 Legacy in repositories
ati-legacy sounds good and blocking ati-drivers :P/agree Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:45:10 +0200 From: joost.r...@sabayonlinux.org To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] AMD Catalyst 12.6 Legacy in repositories They WORK! Tested with Radeon HD 4850. I do note that I had to downgrade the Kernel, because there was no driver set for the linux-sabayon:3.5 Perhaps we could rename them to something like ati-legacy and make them block ati-drivers? Ideas? Cheers. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org wrote: Possibly, will check that out too. We have a old xorg in our eit repos :) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Will they work with newer Xorgs??? :O 2012/9/18 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: Thanks! Will test those in our Legacy edition :) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: Hi all, I am adding x11-drivers/ati-drivers-12.6_beta_pre897 to Entropy repositories (will be in sabayon-limbo first). These are the famous AMD Catalyst 12.6 Legacy drivers, still supporting HD2xxx - HD4xxx video cards. Cheers, -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux
Re: [sabayon-dev] AMD Catalyst 12.6 Legacy in repositories
Thanks! Will test those in our Legacy edition :) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: Hi all, I am adding x11-drivers/ati-drivers-12.6_beta_pre897 to Entropy repositories (will be in sabayon-limbo first). These are the famous AMD Catalyst 12.6 Legacy drivers, still supporting HD2xxx - HD4xxx video cards. Cheers, -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux
Re: [sabayon-dev] AMD Catalyst 12.6 Legacy in repositories
Possibly, will check that out too. We have a old xorg in our eit repos :) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.comwrote: Will they work with newer Xorgs??? :O 2012/9/18 Steven Cristian stefan.crist...@best.eu.org: Thanks! Will test those in our Legacy edition :) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: Hi all, I am adding x11-drivers/ati-drivers-12.6_beta_pre897 to Entropy repositories (will be in sabayon-limbo first). These are the famous AMD Catalyst 12.6 Legacy drivers, still supporting HD2xxx - HD4xxx video cards. Cheers, -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux -- Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 Skype: dany.sk -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux
Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon 10 images just moved to mirrors
Exactly what I wanted to say, Fabio didn't say anything about dropping FGLRX as an option. Radeon opensource drivers *will be default boot* on the next ISOs, and who wants to install fglrx, he's on his own. Simple math :) On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Michele de...@gmx.it wrote: On 14/09/2012 10:45, Fabio Erculiani wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Danilo Pianini danilo.pian...@gmail.com wrote: Note that it still does not work with HD4xxx class hardware. Note that I am not interested in fixing this, since: 1. fglrx won't be the default anyway in the near future 2. KMS will be enabled by default You said that fglrx is great, then why did they drop support for older cards? Buy real hardware next time. Can I ask some clarification about this issue? My general understanding is that: - fglrx/catalyst is the closed source ati driver, which is somehow problematic The problem is not closed vs open. The problem is about garbage vs non-garbage. - some open source alternative exists, but people are against it Who is against it? When it works, it works good enough for 99% of the people. And if you want to install ati-drivers, you can do it quite easily. - nvidia is a bitch to work with, their drivers are leaky and ugly but they work Leaky and Ugly? Have you ever used a nvidia system? I guess you did not. - nouveau sucks and has no support from the official developers nouveau is not mature yet. So in this scenario (correct me if I'm wrong), which graphic card should I pick? NVIDIA or Intel. Intel has slightly better support though. As a game developer I would say both, and test my games on the official drivers only as I need to reach the broadest public with the least effort. How does the open source ati driver compare to nouveau? How is Fabio's decision going to impact my work? Can I still put on fglrx? Did you guys actually read what I write? I wrote default to. Does this mean I am going to drop fglrx from ISO images? NO! Sorry if what I ask is trivial but I'm not much into hardware/drivers. Michele -- Fabio Erculiani -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux
Re: [sabayon-dev] systemd on sabayon
Sincerely, the only issue that nowadays systemd solves is faster boot speed, as I see it. But my point was: if systemd really solves *other* issues than speed, then so be it, introduce it, but for now, I didn't see any real need for systemd. My point :) But there is another solution on this, keep both, OpenRC and systemd (personal solution, would resolve to this on my team's fork of Sabayon if needed) On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Mohan R mohan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 15:37 -0500, wolfden wrote: I personally feel it is too early yet, no need to rush to such a thing. I don't see an advantage to it either. It seems I missed the history of udev+systemd merge. So, udev got f**ked-up and this one-solution-for-all systemd is a mess. Well, I thought systemd is a good concept than a sysvinit or upstart. I'm not aware of problems it is creating for users who don't want systemd and happy with plain sysvinit. I have to accept that I'm new to openRC and I really don't know how it works under the roof. I thought openRC is just another sysvinit replicate. If I understand the situation correctly, gentoo is going for a udev fork called udev-standalone (or udev-static) with openRC and not going to sink into systemd tornado anytime soon. People hate RedHat (especially Lennart) and Gnome like anything for messing up linux userspace. Thanks for giving me some insights about whats happening in Linux Desktop world. Thanks, Mohan R -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux
Re: [sabayon-dev] systemd on sabayon
If it's needed... we cannot do anything against, I guess :-? On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:37 PM, wolfden wolf...@sabayon.org wrote: Mohan: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/259045 https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-934678-highlight-.html Many people are not fans of Lennart so it's not an easy topic to discuss without flame suits. I personally feel it is too early yet, no need to rush to such a thing. I don't see an advantage to it either. -- Kelly Schwartz ~wolfden~ -- Lead-Developer at Project Rogentos (Romanian Gentoo Operating System) GNU/Linux. Based on Sabayon and Gentoo Linux, Rogentos tends to offer support mainly for all Romanian Linux users and entrepreneurs who seek to learn an open and free system based on true values :) http://rogentos.ro www.facebook.com/RogentosLinux
Re: [sabayon-dev] Newbie to git.
Well first of all, this is a binary distribution, so all you need to do is equo install git or use Rigo package manager to install it, simple as that.Second thing to think of is: this mailing list is used only for development of Sabayon by bug reporting, or other things that may feedback on Sabayon Linux. Your request for knowledge on this mail list has no place. You may find further knowledge on GIT matter on http://github.com/ (there are dozens of tutorials there which tell you word by word what to do).GIT installation and tutorial isn't Sabayon-development subject, please do consider that. All things said, i wish you good luck on GIT learning. :)Steven Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:24:27 +0300 From: johnkall...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: [sabayon-dev] Newbie to git. I am a sabayon user quite new to using git. How can I download source code from there? Any help appreciated...
Re: [sabayon-dev] Newbie to git.
You are too kind Slawomir, lol. Yeah, I put the 'git' on capital letters so people can really see that i've put them on capital letters.Recursive-ness is a bliss. To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:40:58 +0200 From: slawomir.ni...@sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] Newbie to git. I don't see much of a problem with that question here, to the extent where do I find the git repositories and the answer to that is: git.sabayon.org - click one you want and look for the clone link.
Re: [sabayon-dev] Entropy community repositories
You can read this http://lxnay.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/eit-the-stupid-package-tracker-reinvented/ for own repos. Cheers ! Steven On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Pavol Cupka pavol.cu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I would like to ask if these functions are still available and if so is there any documentation that I can read about it? Thanks Palica -- Linux user since 2002. Sabayon Linux user since 2008. Portage and Entropy are the option for a good system! Feel free to join in. www.sabayon.org
Re: [sabayon-dev] Enabling PAE by default on x86?
Well, need to feedback on this. Yeah, pae is ok as long as we keep the old kernels ( and maybe ship it with one ISO ), everything is fine with it :D. Go ahead ! On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Wolfden wolf...@gmail.com wrote: holy signature batman, cliff notes? -- Linux user since 2002. Sabayon Linux user since 2008. Portage and Entropy are the option for a good system! Feel free to join in. www.sabayon.org
Re: [sabayon-dev] Enabling PAE by default on x86?
Wanted to say exactly that, people still use x86 systems, and lots of people ... On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Glenn Phillips gl...@coriolis-storm.comwrote: Sabayon_Linux_8_x86_K.iso 3.84 TiB Sabayon_Linux_8_x86_G.iso 3.82 TiB Sabayon_Linux_8_amd64_K.iso 5.27 TiB Sabayon_Linux_8_amd64_G.iso 4.72TiB X86 = 7.66TB AMD64 = 9.99TB so we've got a 1.3:1 ratio It appears you're right and people still live in the dark ages... however I wonder how many of those 32bit systems are 32bit because people don't realize virtually all hardware is 64bit compatible On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Glenn Phillips gl...@coriolis-storm.com wrote: Why bother? The only things that are 32bit anymore are really old hardware and really cheap netbooks. Is that really our target audience anyways? I'm still baffled that we still support 32bit... Not everybody lives in the 1st World -- Fabio Erculiani -- Linux user since 2002. Sabayon Linux user since 2008. Portage and Entropy are the option for a good system! Feel free to join in. www.sabayon.org
Re: [sabayon-dev] linux-sabayon-3.3-r1 breaks WPA-PSK on AMD64
I can confirm ath9k module breakage on limbo kernel 3.3-r1. Symptoms are : while trying to connect to my wireless, iwconfig / wicd sees the connection, but fails to practically connect [Connection Failed] and the debuged info of wicd-client running in terminal looks like this : blacknoxis@blacknoxis ~ $ wicd-client Has notifications support TrueLoading...Connecting to daemon...Connected.displaytray TrueDone loading.refreshing...ESSID : Belkin.3E38ESSID : TP-LINK_C41C68ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_messageself._handler(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/gui.py, line 253, in handle_connection_results error(self.window, language[results], block=False)KeyError: dbus.String(u'bad_pass')ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_messageself._handler(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/gui.py, line 253, in handle_connection_results error(self.window, language[results], block=False)KeyError: dbus.String(u'bad_pass')setting encryption info...ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_messageself._handler(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/gui.py, line 253, in handle_connection_results error(self.window, language[results], block=False)KeyError: dbus.String(u'bad_pass')setting encryption info...There are two trials of connection above with wicd-client : one with passphrase and the other preshared key. In both cases password says it's wrong, but it isn't, because I can connect with pppoe-start with the same password typed in the wicd-client and of course, internet works as I can send this email, heh. Ath9k has gone mad :| On the other hand, I can confirm another phenomenon (maybe it's in my imagination) but limbo kernel 3.3-r1 boots 10% faster than the other kernels. Using generic one. Oh and Happy Easter to everybody ! :) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:43:36 -0500 From: mitch.har...@sabayonlinux.org To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] linux-sabayon-3.3-r1 breaks WPA-PSK on AMD64 On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: If you have time, feel free to cherry-pick the patch in the 3.3 branch. I won't have time in the next 4 hours. The last kernel came out on April 2. It would be really rare for a new kernel not to come out either today or Monday. Unless this is causing lots of problems with users, I'd rather just do one upgrade when the next kernel is released.
Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Hardening: Proposed Roadmap
Once you use the 'hardened' flag on sys-devel/gcc and base-gcc it shows this : blacknoxis SpecialPackages # gcc-config -l [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.2 * [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.2-hardenednopie [3] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.2-hardenednopiessp [4] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.2-hardenednossp [5] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.2-vanilla You can chose then. Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:46:56 +0100 From: lx...@sabayon.org To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Hardening: Proposed Roadmap I agree with you that we should introduce hardened features one by one and the proposed roadmap does make sense. Does the hardened version of GCC show up as a different gcc-config profile? Or does it replace the non-hardened profile in the same sys-devel/gcc slot? Cheers, -- Fabio Erculiani
Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Hardening: Proposed Roadmap
I support the idea, this would be a good opportunity to really test the Mich's concept ! If it proves that useful without the cost of performance, this would be quite a hit and SL could make the hardened isos the default ones :) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:20:54 -0400 From: bluen...@gentoo.org To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Hardening: Proposed Roadmap I don't know how the Sabayon build system works, but why not just build an image with full hardening and distribute it as an optional sabayon-hardened.iso? Without a pax kernel, you'll probably be okay on all video hardware and any breakage will happen at compile time, not when the end user tries to run things. --Tony On 03/13/2012 02:50 PM, Mitch Harder wrote: Thanks for the feedback. We appreciate your review of our approach. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Anthony G. Basilebluen...@gentoo.org wrote: 1) glibc needs to be compiled with USE=hardened to apply some necessary patches, and it needs to be compiled with a hardened compiler to get -D_FORTIFY_SOURCES=2. So the toolchain (gcc/glibc/binutils) must be compiled and then recompiled with USE=hardened. Right, sorry I wasn't clear about that. Hardening the toolchain (gcc/glibc/binutils) should be a single step. 2) If the entire system is not compiled hardened, then the system libraries will lack the security from hardening. Why bother then with hardening at all? This is a very important question that is still unclear for me. My premise is that: We can achieve a worthwhile increase security by selectively hardening Sabayon (hardened toolchain, hardened suid binaries, on a standard kernel). From here, we will be in a position to selectively harden other categories of packages (such as @system, LAMP, etc...). Desktop (such as full Gnome and KDE) and Multimedia will probably be last (and may be a ways down the road). I have a supporting premise that, eventually, nearly all packages will support being built hardened. If these premises are incorrect, then this approach to hardening may not be worthwhile. And, again, I appreciate the feedback of the people who have spent much more time working with hardening. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535
[sabayon-dev] Heya
Hey devs ! I wish to do my part for Humanity on the SL overlays :D
Re: [sabayon-dev] Heya
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Re: [sabayon-dev] Hardening in Sabayon
I agree with Mitch, and also hardening with -fPIE has no performance cost, so why not :) ? Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:07:57 -0600 From: mitch.har...@sabayonlinux.org To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: [sabayon-dev] Hardening in Sabayon Now is a good time to try to implement some hardened features in Sabayon. Since hardening has the potential to break some applications, Sabayon will want to approach the issue incrementally. Some of the first steps may just be to lay the groundwork, and not really provide any significant security enhancements. Hardening is a very broad topic, with many overlapping subtopics. Right now, there are a handful of show-stoppers that would probably prevent Sabayon from implementing across-the-board hardening (not the least of which is a lack of consensus as to what would constitute a fully hardened Desktop system). But, over time, I expect the blockers to gradually support hardening. Linux server applications are much further along in supporting hardening than the Linux Desktop world. So since Sabayon is heavily invested in the Desktop area of Linux, we'll need to be careful how we proceed. It would be counter-productive for me to provide a tutorial on hardening. But, here's a few links I've found helpful. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/ http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/11/02/the-pie-is-not-exactly-a-lie I found flameeye's blog very enlightening for someone who is just trying to get their head around hardening. Sabayon will probably wait on implementing the hardened patches in Gentoo's hardened kernel. But, there are some really interesting capabilities bundled into the Gentoo hardened kernel, and we will certainly want to evaluate what can be implemented (or perhaps when). Our initial focus will probably be on building a subset of applications with PIE. This is a topic that has recently been active. And the ASLR that is already in the kernel should work well-enough with binaries built with PIE. Supporting PaX/NX will probably take longer. Since there are several sub-topics to discuss, I'm going to cut this post off here, and try to keep the messages to being only slightly long. I'll get into some of the sub-topics in separate posts.
Re: [sabayon-dev] xorg-server-1.11 in Sabayon 8?
I have recompiled xorg-server-11.3 and all that it needed to be compiled. I can confirm, on my Nvidia 9650M GT 1 gigs integrated and running proprietary drivers that xorg-server-1.11.3 works like a charm. No corruption/error. And compiled with march=native, vomit-frame-pointer and graphite. Green light on my lappy :) From: miciam...@hotmail.it To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:51:31 +0100 Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] xorg-server-1.11 in Sabayon 8? I don't have any legacy Nvidia hardware, but I still think compatibility should be a big concern for serious and reliable OS, so my vote is negative on this. Bleeding edge disregarding compatibility and lacking any good motivation (and version X version Y isn't enough) is no good to me. If this is such mandatory decision and there are good reasons to do this, I would go on dropping an email to Nvidia to see if they are actually interested in updating their legacy drivers for newer xorg, if they aren't (or don't respond) the least we should do is providing an automatic way to switch to nouveau for those cards. Il giorno mer, 18/01/2012 alle 13.16 +0100, Michele ha scritto: On 18/01/2012 13:01, Andre Parhan wrote: I'd agree with Wolfden, but be sure to have a good disclaimer warning for possible failure with legacy nvidia cards, otherwise n00bs could think we are the problem... 2012/1/18 Wolfden wolf...@gmail.com mailto:wolf...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org mailto:lx...@sabayon.org wrote: I would really like to bump xorg-server to 1.11, but as stated in my previous post here, nvidia legacy drivers would stop working. Should we really hold the version bump due to that? I say no. Dump your opinion here, I'll take the final decision this weekend (sooner or later it's going to happen anyway, and NVIDIA doesn't seem very reactive in updating their legacy stuff). -- Fabio Erculiani I vote go for it, we are bleeding edge and time to move on. -- KJS ~wolfden~ I would rather pick another distro if I needed to run Linux on an older machine, and probably most people would do the same (Puppy or some Ubuntu spinoff), so I say let's get the latest version. Anyways the oldest video card I have is two years old, so for me it's ok :) mic -- Lorenzo Cogotti
Re: [sabayon-dev] Cinnamon and Razor Desktop Environments on Limbo for testing
It is, it's in construction, http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=Ro:FAQ and some other pages :) From: toted...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:12:57 +0200 To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] Cinnamon and Razor Desktop Environments on Limbo for testing Sabayon Wiki in the ro. language where!? i think is still no wiki on ro language ... === linux is free, but needed expertise to use this little beast is a personal, time consuming, continuous accumulation of knowledge and wasted time can not be rolled back no matter how much money you have selling free software can not bring to you too much money, but USING free software you can make a lot of money like Google ... or IBM your little help to free software development does not bring to you any money but can help you use it more efficiently, so you can make more money ... meanwhile, other users of that little free software program, using your contribution can make more money! nobody loses anything, all those who know how to use a free software program, in continuous evolution, wins registered linux user #352479 2012/1/7 Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.com Installed dolphin and kwrite, kwrite working ok so far but have a couple problems with dolphin When selecting a non mounted partitions (left hand side of dolphin) the authentication password window does not appear and gives the appropriate error in the status bar If I open dolphin as root there is no problem when clicking on non mounted partitions When clicking on network icon (left hand side of dolphin) the icon is selected but nothing is displayed Got compiz working Installed the packages (and the nvidia drivers) started compiz with fusion icon, opened compizconfig settings manager window and yes the title bar and borders not there, just deselected loose binding to fix then lower panel disappeared got it back by selecting window manger native from desktop type in razor desktop configuration now the background image was black-screen, reselecting razor desktop returned the normal background image Added compiz-manager to auto start, rebooted all seemed ok Rebooted few more times now each time I log in I just end up at the log screen again On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.com wrote: Just did a clean install with Daily_CoreCDX_amd64 build date Wed Jan 4 11:39:18 CET 2012, and fully updated using sulfur with limbo repo then installed Razor-qt When switching to another virtual desktop, the taskbar is not displayed I can change back to first desktop using Alt + Ctrl + arrow key (this does also cycle through the desktops but the taskbar is only in the first desktop) On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Josef Odenthal joe.odent...@gmail.com wrote: Razor-qt Just a quick test I have 2 problems 1. Compiz not working (maybe because kwin was seleted at start up) 2. When switching to another virtual desktop all I end up with is the sabayon splash screen Joe
Re: [sabayon-dev] Linux 3.2 in sabayon-limbo
May I suggest using ACPI_ASUS module as [m] instead of [Y] ? In order to provide the kernel with ASUS_LAPTOP=[m] (which is the newest module from acpi4asus), the reason is ACPI_ASUS is the deprecated one for 2.6.24 kernels. One more thing to add : asus_laptop depends on acpi_asus=[m] and it's not available for acpi_asus=[Y], thus the suggestion.http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/8002 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:12:06 +1100 From: joe.odent...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] Linux 3.2 in sabayon-limbo working on my desktop Installed using sulfur only selecting the kernel and nvidia driver Linux sabaxfce 3.2.0-sabayon #1 SMP Sat Jan 7 20:05:56 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS880 Host Bridge 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0) 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3) 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode] 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3c) 00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller 00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) 02:00.0 USB controller: Fresco Logic FL1000G USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 01) 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] (rev a1) 04:00.0 USB controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 04) 05:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org wrote: Linux 3.2 kernels and mods are in sabayon-limbo repository, i didn't have time to fix all the external mods yet, but will plan to do it soon. Give them a spin in the meantime! -- Fabio Erculiani
Re: [sabayon-dev] Lots of goodies in sabayon-limbo
Sorry to bother Fabio, but what do you mean by ' Complete packages rebuild against libpng-1.5', you have masked the libpng-1.5 and use the 1.4 one ? I had some problems too when I accidentally emerge-updated to libpng-1.5, I had to re-emerge back the 1.4 one so there wouldn't be no emerge @preserved-rebuild on about ... 256 packages without any explanations. Oh, btw, Happy B-Day once again :D Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:31:49 +0100 From: lx...@sabayon.org To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: [sabayon-dev] Lots of goodies in sabayon-limbo Hi everybody, It's been a 2-days marathon on the Entropy packages chroots. This is the new stuff as of this morning: - Complete packages rebuild against libpng-1.5 - GCC 4.6.2 fixes (base-gcc package was missing libffi) - GNOME 3.2.1 packages - LibreOffice 3.4.4.2 Everything is being pushed to sabayon-limbo for testing. I expect to move everything to main before the end of the week (but I might delay the merge till Monday). Have fun, -- Fabio Erculiani
Re: [sabayon-dev] Time to wake up
It got dumped to main, we all having that issue, and it seems from my point of view (tail -f /var/log/message-ed it), I saw gtk theme engine going really mad. Alongside genfool, I firmly confirm this issue. Go go devs power ! xD Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 17:04:51 -0500 From: wolf...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] Time to wake up I don't think it got dumped to main did it? As far as I know it's only in limbo. I have the gtk issues with broken icon/jpg files etc... I'm working 12 hour shifts right now so testing and fix is out for me at moment. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 5:00 PM, genfool larse...@gmail.com wrote: How is your day going dev's? we have an issue with the new gnome updates... My post below for the legacy drivers still stand, then with the new comers on #sabayon having issues, is a post on the forums ... I updated my main testing box and gnome is in the sewer, kde has gtk issues with icons ... I can use gnome in fallback mode with the nv drivers, while my current system using the newest nvidia drivers I can not. I can use kde and simply have gtk errors and missing icons. If I switch it to vesa I can get something in gnome that is horrible to use, open xchat by feel and not by icon ... it works... grab the title bar and try to move it will not work. Why do we even have limbo if we do not use it? is issues on the forums, in main irc channel ... hope you have a wonderful Monday morning hugs and kisses genfool -- KJS ~wolfden~
Re: [sabayon-dev] almost a full month and kernel.org is still down
First of all I want to first apologize to Fabrio for continuing this subject that Toderel started and Gregor replied, this is kind of offtopic to the devs list.To solve this problem Toderel started I will say this in our native language, anyone who wants to ask me what it means, I will not tell him because I'm outraged of his incompetence and low-intelligence meaningless email, such a shameful act can mean only one thing : a linux kiddo who just discovered Sabayon. Since he's from my country, I'll take the matter in my own hands, I apologize for what I am about to say. To Toderel: Ba, esti prost ? Cine d-zeu esti ? Ia-ti zborul de pe dev listul oamenilor astora ori o sa te bage pe blacklist (sau o sa le cer eu). Daca ai ceva de intrebat sau zis intri pe irc si ma gasesti acolo, sau cauta-ma pe Sabayon Group, dar nu-i bate la cap pe oamenii astia cu offtopic-uri dea'pula, sper sa nu vad reply de la tine pe devs.list din nou, ca ma supar urat. Sorry for that, but some things must be done the hard way Best Regards, Steven Cristian / BlackNoxis Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:26:35 -0700 From: gregormah...@yahoo.com To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] almost a full month and kernel.org is still down First of all it is called linux from scratch and second of all no newbie is going to be looking into that since you have to be really experienced in order to attempt to build a usable system with the instructions from LFS. Lastly I do not understand the point that you are making about the reasons why kernel.org is still down. What kind of a point they are making...to trust...who?! Either you are a very confused person or you have no idea what you are writing about because much of what you wrote makes no sense what so ever. --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Toderel Adrian-Aurel toted...@gmail.com wrote: From: Toderel Adrian-Aurel toted...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [sabayon-dev] almost a full month and kernel.org is still down To: devel@lists.sabayon.org Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 11:52 PM yea, for an old linux user this is not a big deal, but for a linux newbie is a little scary ... from where to download linux v3.0 tarball for linux for scratch!? where is official vanilla linux tarball!? huh!? until you find linus personal git repository you need some extra learnings steps ... i think this, kernel.org still down after a full month, is not by accident but by purpose, to show to all crackers and script kiddies and so on that linux do not need an official stamp from anybody, that is only a network of trust between real persons ... you trust linus git branch, his steps to secure his personal kernel sources then you use that git repository and so on ... you need a gentoo kernel flavor, then use and you trust gentoo git branch which can be on another continent! from a windows world perspective, a corporate world obsessed by public image and market value of trademarks, this thing, kernel.org down and linux public image apparently in deep shame and unable to recover but still nobody running in circles and screaming, is very strange! and for a linux newbie is a cultural shock! to jump right on the git distributed version system, with no heads and hierarchy only a web of trust is a real perspective shift! === linux is free, but needed expertise to use this little beast is a personal, time consuming, continuous accumulation of knowledge and wasted time can not be rolled back no matter how much money you have selling free software can not bring to you too much money, but USING free software you can make a lot of money like Google ... or IBM your little help to free software development does not bring to you any money but can help you use it more efficiently, so you can make more money ... meanwhile, other users of that little free software program, using your contribution can make more money! nobody loses anything, all those who know how to use a free software program, in continuous evolution, wins registered linux user #352479 2011/9/24 Fabio Erculiani lx...@sabayon.org We have our own git repository for the Linux Kernel ;-) -- Fabio Erculiani -Inline Attachment Follows-
