Re: [sugar] CODE FREEZE COMING!

2007-10-29 Thread Morgan Collett
Jim Gettys wrote: During this week, October 26 through November 1: You should be substantially complete with your development at this date (October 26). If you are not: You MUST notify the community of any significant code you expect

Re: when an xo loses connection, how long does it take to disappear from other's neighbor view?

2007-11-06 Thread Morgan Collett
Giannis Galanis wrote: 1. Is there a way to restart the presence service? In that way we can resolve a weird state. Will killing restarting the porcess work? Killing it will result in it being restarted. However, Sugar remains in an inconsistent state, with buddies stuck on the mesh view if

Re: when an xo loses connection, how long does it take to disappear from other's neighbor view?

2007-11-08 Thread Morgan Collett
Simon McVittie wrote: PS makes an unlimited number of connection attempts, with a short delay between each one (we should probably change this to use an exponential backoff process so the delays get longer as you're offline for longer, up to a maximum of perhaps 10 minutes). #2522.

Re: Active activities as Widgets

2007-11-29 Thread Morgan Collett
Gerard J. Cerchio wrote: I would like the ability to exploit other active activities in my own activity. Rainbow is designed to specifically disallow this. If a video conference is already active, and the participants wish to PlayGo I would like to have a panel in the PlayGo application

Re: Active activities as Widgets

2007-11-29 Thread Morgan Collett
Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:15 , Morgan Collett wrote: Sugar will gain a feature called overlay chat, once we've got higher priority collaboration stuff completed, which will automagically add chat functionality to any (sugarised, python) activity. I thought

Re: Fake mesh over IP.

2007-12-05 Thread Morgan Collett
Miguel Álvarez wrote: I think that you're rather interested on the presence service and activity sharing. That can be done independently of the mesh range, as it relies (in the infrastructure mode) on jabber servers. I guess there will be designated server(s) for G1G1 recipients, but that can

Re: Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-05 Thread Morgan Collett
Jim Gettys wrote: -bash-3.2# olpc-update 650 Downlaoding contents of build 650. @Error unknown module 'build-650':md5 mismatch for build 650 On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 02:23 -0500, C. Scott Ananian wrote: olpc-update 650 olpc-update ship-2.650 worked for me on a MP XO.

Re: Fake mesh over IP.

2007-12-06 Thread Morgan Collett
drew einhorn wrote: I'll need at least a jabber server of my own. Would it be better to install my own XS school server? I don't know what the status of the XS software is. Uruguay's running Debian servers. Would it be even better to have local servers at both sites? There is no server

Re: Voice IM project proposal

2007-12-12 Thread Morgan Collett
but collaboration on that would be welcome. http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/video-chat-activity;a=summary Regards Morgan Collett Collabora Ltd ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: A jabber hosting offer...

2008-01-06 Thread Morgan Collett
Dave Belfer-Shevett wrote: Do I simply use the sugar-control-panel -s jabber j1.olpc.stonekeep.com or the like to point the XO's to my server? And they'll come up as active / neighborhood users? Yes. (If not, the jabber server's probably not configured correctly.) Regards Morgan

Re: Clearing association with a school/jabber server

2008-01-07 Thread Morgan Collett
John Watlington wrote: In testing the registration process with a school server, we need a way to clear a laptop's registration (without reinstalling the OS). Removing .sugar/default/config and reboot seems to work. (Yes, there are steps which should be taken on the school server as well,

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-10 Thread Morgan Collett
Simon McVittie wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 at 22:17:18 -0500, John Watlington wrote: We have a presence service which provides a way for P2P applications to find one another, even after the IP changes. Presence Service isn't magical. If a laptop's IP address changes, in the link-local

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-10 Thread Morgan Collett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Dan Williams wrote: In the server-based backend, an IP address change *will* cause a disconnect and reconnect. This is definitely unavoidable, since XMPP uses a long-lived TCP connection to the server. IP addresses are going to change; that's a

Re: jabber for non-wireless XO ?

2008-01-21 Thread Morgan Collett
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: I don't have any wireless. I do have a wired ethernet connection to a LAN (which in turn uses a proxy to reach the internet). Even when I specify in sugar-control-panel the name of a real server, my XO is not accessing jabber (the field in olpc-netstatus is shown

Re: New joyride build 1614

2008-01-31 Thread Morgan Collett
On Jan 30, 2008 11:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 23:22 +0200, Jani Monoses wrote: -sugar-presence-service 0.65-0.31.20080103git76984f3f28 +sugar-presence-service 0.75.0-1 The version number does not seem to have been bumped to 0.75.0 in git master.

Gabble vs Salut (Re: What's left for Update.1)

2008-02-02 Thread Morgan Collett
Jim Gettys wrote: I think we need to seriously discuss about possibly/probably being update.1 fodder is the kids arrive at school in the morning problem. 5 - Use of mesh in large, crowded environments If everyone arrives at school running local link and resumed quickly, the network might

Re: Observing games

2008-02-06 Thread Morgan Collett
happens. This is the main reason we removed Connect from Update.1 builds some time ago. I previously asked for volunteers to work on Connect. Despite some interest, it hasn't progressed further, so I'll reiterate: Patches welcome! Regards Morgan -- Morgan Collett Collabora Ltd

Translation updates (was Re: New update.1 build 691)

2008-02-08 Thread Morgan Collett
On Feb 8, 2008 1:46 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will be RC2; WEP/WPA are believed working but please test. When do we update activity translations? I see Spanish translations have been done for Chat, but the pootle commits include other languages too. Must I cherry-pick

Re: Items for update.1 RC3

2008-02-13 Thread Morgan Collett
Dennis Gilmore wrote: Please reply to the list stating any bugs you think need fixing for update.1 #6295 is a Presence Service bug fix for Update.1. It has been tested in Joyride and is ready for approval. It improves reliability in connecting to jabber servers, in particular where the jabber

Re: New joyride build 1683

2008-02-13 Thread Morgan Collett
wasn't included, here it is: * Tue Feb 12 2008 Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 0.75.1 - dev.laptop.org #6295: try opportunistic registration if authentication fails - revert dev.laptop.org #6142: Don't update buddy properties without a key (not approved for Update.1

Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
We're testing patches to Presence Service to not start salut (or stop it) for a while to give gabble a chance to connect to the schoolserver. However, Daf came across what was a very minor problem which becomes more serious in light of this change. Many activities are calling PS

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
Jim Gettys wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:58 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: However, during the period when we stop salut to let gabble try to connect, this call fails as there is no running plugin in PS. If an activity is launched during this time (and there's no particular UI to show

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
John Watlington wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: Let me ask a different question: what happens to activities already running which are running shared? Are they going to fail? Presumably, yes It sounds like any activity trying to share until either gable connect

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
Morgan Collett wrote: Many activities are calling PS get_preferred_connection() to interact directly with the appropriate Telepathy Connection Manager, which was required in the past before we expanded Presence Service's management of setting up channels for activities. However, during

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-15 Thread Morgan Collett
Hi John Your points are valid. If we weren't in RC phase this would have been a non-issue to fix the activities. It turns out the all the activities (except Pippy) were defensively coded enough to not crash with this particular failure - despite there being an open bug about this failure being

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-15 Thread Morgan Collett
Dafydd Harries wrote: There is still a problem there: when you hit the Share button, there might not be a connection that you can use for collaboration. The activity can tell that this is the case, but can't tell when sharing does become available. Ideally, we would enable and disable the

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-15 Thread Morgan Collett
Morgan Collett wrote: After looking through the code for these activities I tried them all on build 691, with neither gabble nor salut running - the best way to reproduce expected behaviour without a schoolserver. (To reproduce, kill telepathy-gabble if it's running, then kill telepathy-salut

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-17 Thread Morgan Collett
Ricardo Carrano wrote: Two premises (that need confirmation) 1 - It seems that running neither of two (salut and gabble) brings us some serious troubles (for now, at least). In case you missed some of the mails, it turned out only Pippy needed fixing in the short term, and that's now done as

Re: Digital Introduction (was: bar code scanners on the XO)

2008-02-18 Thread Morgan Collett
Ivan Krstić wrote: We have code in git that encodes arbitrary (but size-constrained) data as a redundant datamatrix barcode and shows it on the screen, and code that performs image analysis from a camera capture when one XO is pointed at another with such a barcode on the screen to decode the

Re: Connection Managers and Presence Service

2008-02-18 Thread Morgan Collett
Rene De Santiago wrote: I've been looking at how to implement a new communication manager that communicates with the OLPC presence service and I'm still trying to make sense out of parts involved there, like DBus, the presence service and the existing plugins (linklocal_plugin.py and

Re: Standalone mesh deployment ideas.

2008-02-18 Thread Morgan Collett
On Feb 19, 2008 12:26 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * disconnected operation - we can't use webmail for e-mail if there's no network; should we come up with a simple stored e-mail solution that batches outgoing and incoming mail on USB keys that can be passed around? -

Re: XO visability

2008-02-18 Thread Morgan Collett
On Feb 19, 2008 9:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunantly I haven't been keeping track. I know I've seen it on build 650, the recent RC, on joyride 1700. but I know I've also seen it on many other joyride builds as well, I haven't always upgraded both machines so some of the times have

Re: telepathy - request for guidance

2008-02-18 Thread Morgan Collett
On Feb 18, 2008 8:28 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for guidance in how to specify to telepathy that its jabber_connection needs to go through my proxy. Tried putting the proxy addressport in /usr/share/telepathy/managers/gabble.manager, but

Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test

2008-02-23 Thread Morgan Collett
Giannis Galanis wrote: 2. I will try to update all of them with the build we will agree to initially test with. This would be 693/D13? There is a new version of telepathy-salut in 1721, which apparently only fixes smth related to stream tube flush(which i dont know what it is). I dont believe

Re: Avahi optimisations

2008-02-25 Thread Morgan Collett
Michael Stone wrote: * Minimize size of announced services (i.e. drop unnecessary data from TXT) - The biggest item in the TXT of contacts is the key (which is BIG). But this key is a requirement of bitfrost, so we can't get rid of it. So far as I have been informed, the

Re: Avahi optimisations

2008-02-26 Thread Morgan Collett
Ivan Krstić wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:49 AM, Sjoerd Simons wrote: Does sugar make any assumptions about the size of the key? IOW can we instead of removing the key completely, use a smaller key? As I've told daf, smcv et al many months ago in Boston, there's no point in advertising the

Re: Avahi optimisations

2008-02-26 Thread Morgan Collett
Morgan Collett wrote: Ivan Krstić wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:49 AM, Sjoerd Simons wrote: Does sugar make any assumptions about the size of the key? IOW can we instead of removing the key completely, use a smaller key? As I've told daf, smcv et al many months ago in Boston, there's no point

Re: Avahi optimisations

2008-02-26 Thread Morgan Collett
Ivan Krstić wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Morgan Collett wrote: I've logged #6572 against Presence Service with a patch, to replace the public key with its sha1 hash. Works in jhbuild. That ticket indicates a 40-byte hash, but SHA-1 is a 160-bit function. Whence the doubling? Also

Re: Avahi optimisations

2008-02-28 Thread Morgan Collett
Ivan Krstić wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Morgan Collett wrote: actually we are normally using b64 encoding so that brought it down to 28 bytes. Using SHA-256 it's 44 bytes in the TXT record. But _why_ are we encoding at all? TXT RDATA is one or more character strings, which

Re: Multiple Questions from a SysAdmin

2008-03-03 Thread Morgan Collett
Bryan Berry wrote: 2. Does Avahi work together w/ Telepathy (local mesh) and EJabber (multiple meshes) for the presence service? If so, how? There are two modes for collaboration: link local (mesh) or server (Jabber). Link local uses telepathy-salut, which uses avahi (multicast) to announce

Re: Today's mesh testing.

2008-03-04 Thread Morgan Collett
C. Scott Ananian wrote: How did you get sharing to use unicast? Was this a special patch, or is this actually the default? (My understanding is that sharing is multicast.) telepathy-gabble via a jabber server is always unicast. Morgan ___ Devel

Re: uucp for sneakernet (was Re: Emulating the School...]

2008-03-04 Thread Morgan Collett
008/3/4 Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008-03-03T05:50:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We are studying the Wizzy and all the UUCP related issues. Don't know what Wizzy is, but _very_ glad to hear uucp is being looked at for sneakernet[1]. It's been 10 years since I used http://www.wizzy.org.za/

Re: default jabber server?

2008-03-04 Thread Morgan Collett
Wilson Farrell wrote: If anyone gets ejabberd running correctly using those instructions, please let me (or just the list) know. I posted a while back with a list of issues and received no response. I got busy with other things. This thread brought it all back. I think I've resolved

Re: New update.1 build 696

2008-03-04 Thread Morgan Collett
C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build696 Changes in build 696 from build: 695 -sugar-presence-service 0.75.2-1.olpc2 +sugar-presence-service 0.75.1-1.olpc2 Don't

Re: New update.1 build 696

2008-03-04 Thread Morgan Collett
Korakurider wrote: Many pieces dropped from this build, maybe because of http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6598 Could you explain more rationale behind these change? I see more rationale in that ticket now. In particular, it's easy to add activities through Browse (see below) - and activities added

Re: default jabber server?

2008-03-04 Thread Morgan Collett
John Watlington wrote: Morgan, Did you follow the thread last week where using the instructions you put into the Wiki didn't work ? Using the old instructions did. At this point, I've set up over a half dozen ejabberd servers using the old directions, and collaboration works. John,

Re: default jabber server?

2008-03-05 Thread Morgan Collett
John Watlington wrote: I specifically refer to Morgan's change from Online/@online@/Online for shared roster setup. I have reverted that change. Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Update.1 build status

2008-03-12 Thread Morgan Collett
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: 2008/3/12 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6170 fixed and we should really consider http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6299 We need uwog and morgs to builds for these. #6299 still needs actual testing with a schoolserver.

Re: Update.1 ex-preinstalled activities: stable vs unstable

2008-03-12 Thread Morgan Collett
I was going to make a .xo from git (jhbuild) and stick that up on the wiki when I saw there are newer commits in git than release 19, and that got me wondering: I added a download link to Pippy on [[Activities]] to http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/pippy/Pippy-19.xo. The formerly-preinstalled

Re: Update.1 build status

2008-03-12 Thread Morgan Collett
C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: #6299 still needs actual testing with a schoolserver. sugar-presence-service-0.75.2-1.olpc2 was in a build - 695 - and was then untagged. It's been in joyride since

Re: Today's state of the update.1 (amended)

2008-03-12 Thread Morgan Collett
C. Scott Ananian wrote: Current build: update.1-698. Still open and important: #6299 (salut backoff when gabble running; needs to be retested on a big mesh once in a build, in joyride) This fix has been in Joyride since 1701 (there's a newer PS in recent Joyride including the #6572

Re: XO activities

2008-03-13 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:54 , John Watlington wrote: As we move from a model of preinstalled activities to one where an installer contains a core OS and a number of activities to be installed, the Activities

Re: More sugar-jhbuild problems

2008-03-13 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/3/13 James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm getting timeouts here at work on both http://sugar.abisource.com and the IP address. Yesterday I was able to bring up a website at sugar.abisource.com, but the website made no mention of abiword so it's quite possible I was pointing at the wrong

Re: New bible reading activity

2008-03-15 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 2:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: space on the laptops is limited. it's not a good idea to have lots of different readers to read different documents (and along the same lines, it's not a good idea to have different browser packages with different home pages, like

Re: State of Update.1 on the night of Mar. 18, 2008

2008-03-19 Thread Morgan Collett
C. Scott Ananian wrote: Recent, and demoted to important but not ready: #6575/6707: chat can't send For clarity, the above bugs are salut issues, not Chat directly. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: State of Update.1, March 24, 2008

2008-03-25 Thread Morgan Collett
Michael Stone wrote: Probably beyond reach - #6299 TSTwad (salut backoff when gabble running), needs to be tested on a big mesh; Based on wad's logs, Guillaume and I agree that this one is fixed. Since it's already in Update.1

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-08 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Monday 07 April 2008, Michael Stone wrote: cjb, cscott, and I just chatted about build names. We have absolutely no problem announcing official-703 (when candidate-703 becomes official)

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-08 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it would be better to use a letter instead of a number for the generation code (major release). When confronted with a string of several numbers, the human mind tends to blank out. For some reason, letter -

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-11 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:28 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (APs in infrastructure mode) is what is happening on the ground mostly. Still, it's not good as it kills the mesh-to-the-school scheme which is one of the key technical goals. This should be easy to fix. Re-enable

Collaborative Activity Development

2008-04-14 Thread Morgan Collett
(Excuse the cross-post, but I don't know whether activity authors are on the sugar list, which I presume is the more appropriate list for this topic in future...) I'm now working for OLPC, on improving activity collaboration. If you are developing an activity and have/intend to implement

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 26, Issue 65

2008-04-15 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:30 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morgan, I am one of those people developing activities that make use of collaboration. I'm pleased to see that someone has been charged to make that easier, especially through better documentation. My Activities are

Re: How to use Salut?

2008-04-15 Thread Morgan Collett
Hi James On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the information on ejabberd. I may try that this weekend. I am still puzzled by salut, though. I am using sugar-jhbuild on openSUSE 10.2 and everything seemed to compile OK, but running two

Record (was Re: [sugar] VoiceThreads ... a very interesting education service)

2008-04-16 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** except for the (my opinion) design flaw where you can't share existing recordings, only ones you record after someone else joins a shared session – so no point taking a bunch of photos of things and then clicking

Re: How to use Salut?

2008-04-17 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Dafydd Harries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is an internet connection, the laptop will only try using Salut after it has tried to connect to the Jabber server. Perhaps connecting to the Jabber server is taking a long time to time out, so it's not

Benevolence and morale

2008-04-21 Thread Morgan Collett
Interesting essay by Paul Graham on running a startup like a non-profit - the power of benevolence: http://paulgraham.com/good.html I found it inspiring in the context of OLPC, given that OLPC is a non-profit, yet going through startup-style challenges. Note his section on morale: Morale is

Re: Collaboration tools running over standard ethernet

2008-04-23 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Marcus Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your (virtual) XO doesn't have an 802.11 interface, do the collaboration tools still work, and if so, how? Yes, they work. There's no dependency on the mesh. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_sharing for an

Re: NYC schools and cloaked APs

2008-05-05 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05.05.2008 12:24, Morgan Collett wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03.05.2008, at 21:48, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: I was completely surprised

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-09 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe TWO sets of Activities need to be made available to users who are not schoolkids linked to a school server. One set I'll call 'stable Activities' - they are packaged in Activity Packs such as the ones for

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-09 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/5/9 Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the sharing stuff, I know you can download and use the telepathy libs, but would you also need a presence service running? Could this be automatically started when an app wants to collaborate, or is it something that would have to be running in

Re: [sugar] 65-node simple mesh test (and counting... ;-)

2008-05-09 Thread Morgan Collett
Hi Greg A couple of points in clarification... On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Polychronis, Thanks for sharing the results. Did you use a wireless AP or active antenna? If you can include a few details on that it will help. Can you also

Re: Priorities for Develop?

2008-05-16 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/5/16 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am planning to apply to OLPC for a job as a contractor, working on Develop. I have been told that my first-priority feature, automatic code localization, would be hard to justify on the OLPC roadmap. So I'd like to hear some votes/priorities

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would have been a lot simpler to have left OFW as it was, unable to support a Windows boot. But the point is now moot. No, actually that would have forced the Windows scenario to require a BIOS to be flashed in place

Re: Priorities for Develop?

2008-05-16 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, here's the status on your list. In general, I had taken it as a given that most of what you said would work before I moved on. Great! * Integration with the View Source key for arbitrary activities For

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/5/16 Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (word document attached) For those who can't or won't open the word document, it contains simply this: Mission statement of OLPC To eliminate poverty and create world peace by providing education to the poorest and most remote children on the

Re: View Source question

2008-05-17 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Neil Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: activity in develop. You wouldn't want a single key for that since it's a significant operation that you don't want to launch by mistake. The key combination is fn-space (which has a gear icon on it).

Re: View Source question

2008-05-17 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Robert Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'View Source' is touted as one of the user win features of the XO. There doesn't seem to be much useful discussion of it on the wiki. What's the best path for making an activity 'view source' friendly? Reverse engineering

Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Morgan Collett
I've been thinking about a better portal for downloading activities. I came up with some ideas, that I unfortunately don't have time to implement, but I would be happy to cheer someone on if they are inspired by this... It should be easy to upload an activity (specifically after the first time it

Re: [sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about a better portal for downloading activities. I came up with some ideas, that I unfortunately don't have time to implement, but I would be happy to cheer someone on if they are inspired

Re: View Source question

2008-05-19 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the only two reasons that view source isn't yet what we all hope it to be is a) because, when we got down to it, it became a little difficult to specify exactly what that hope is, and b) because there are so many

Re: [sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that would help in the short term is to create a page listing Future Activities or some other name that suggests these activities are not ready for actual use, but are being created. There are many entries on

Re: New joyride build 1970

2008-05-22 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joyride 1970 has the OLD 'Frame', instead of the 'Circle of Activities' in the Home view. Please fix. An older sugar was built in koji for a bugfix release. By default this gets included in joyride, and requires

Re: XO-2 software plans

2008-05-23 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Alex Belits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Gilmore wrote: It'll be hard for OLPC to get multi-touch working when for the last 15 months they haven't had the bandwidth to figure out whether the current touchpad can do tap to click (ticket #959). But developers

Re: XO-2

2008-05-23 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now don't get me wrong, there are _huge_ UI feedback details*** to get right for a 100% touch keyboard, and it worries me that the current (and cute) Xo HW has so far such a poor and neglected trackpad, often close to

Re: XO-2 software plans

2008-05-23 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It will be slightly more difficult to write (multi-touch) software for the XO-2 in an emulator or on a regular PC... I wonder if there are (or will be) any third party multi-touch input devices readily

Re: [sugar] Release process

2008-05-24 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the jobs of the release manager should be to help identify things that are ready to move from a development branch into the testing branch by

Re: New update.1 build 706

2008-05-29 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/5/29 Giannis Galanis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: these is a list some bugs discovered tonight on 706 5848: The mesh circle in the main view was disappered 7121: Chat would not load 7119: Usb stick was too slow to mount(1min) 7118: Letters in all sugar activities became tiny! **5848 probably

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jameson Chema Quinn writes: Actually, the goals are more limited. Say you have dual-boot; OS 1 has bitfrost, OS 2 does not. Things OS 2 should not do: 1. Read private files from OS 1. ... 2. By writing to OS 1's file

Re: Video from last week's country meetings.

2008-05-29 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/5/29 Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As to the ppt conversions, it seemed to me that some of the slides had layers overlaid on other layers in the wrong order, obscuring what was written underneath. Perhaps you could just post the ppt files as well as the pdf you converted it to? Did

Code of Conduct (was Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot)

2008-05-30 Thread Morgan Collett
[+cc: Mako] Selective quoting: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're on crack, Albert. ... Albert, I'm not talking to you any more until you start making sense. Not to pick on you personally Edward, this just triggered something: I've long thought we

Re: Project Hosting Application: olpc-netscripts

2008-06-04 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/6/4 Ixo X oxI [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Great idea! I have some scripts, thoughts, and code I might be interested with contributing myself. Is there a start to a list of tools, what they do, and maybe even a 'request/want' list ? AFAIK this is the wiki page:

Re: Cannot see activities in joyride-2005

2008-06-04 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Marcus Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Stone wrote: Dov, First, please file a ticket that sugar fails to start up if /home/olpc is empty/missing. Please CC at least mstone and marco on it. Next, put your /home back in place and try to start Sugar. If

Re: Joyride-2009 from 1949 (No standard activities)

2008-06-04 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Ixo X oxI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too just upgraded to Joyride-2009 last night. I jumped from joyright 1949 to joywrong 2009 (about a 4 week difference)... Had 'standard' G1G1 activities, now it's only the ones which I've custom installed. So. it

Re: what about having network connections inhibit sleep?

2008-06-05 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do people think about the idea of making the existance of established TCP connections inhibit sleep? What release

Re: On Cerebro, Telepathy, yokes and whites (was Re: cerebro in sugar)

2008-06-11 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 19:05, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like Michael pointed out, there are few people at OLPC who understand and enjoy telepathy. I think this is an understatement. Personally, I think that Collabora was very pressed to get something working on the

Re: QEMU image for firmware 703

2008-06-13 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:44, Urko Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The school federation in my region lend me one of the two XO-1 they got with the G1G1 program. I'm going to give a presentation next week and I'm trying to get collaboration between sugar-jhbuild and the XO with no success.

Re: Issue with activities using sounds and invite and power adapters

2008-06-20 Thread Morgan Collett
Hi David 2008/6/20 David Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you have a lot of laptops (i.e. we had 40+ in a small area, we were in a classroom and then in small groups outside), the invite function is not reliable – you invite someone but no icon appears on the activity bar of the invited XO.

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:01, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 24 juin 2008 à 17:36 -0700, Brian Pepple a écrit : On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 01:12 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: Can we enable the OLPC-specific patches and config in telepathy-salut in F-9? We're rebasing OLPC

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 18:27, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:01, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 24 juin 2008 à 17:36 -0700, Brian Pepple a écrit : On Wed

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 18:35, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 18:27, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would still be good if we could --enable-olpc on the F9 packages, so that Sugar can work right in Fedora 9. Morgan could you take care

Re: OLPC config in salut in F9?

2008-06-26 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:01, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 24 juin 2008 à 17:36 -0700, Brian Pepple a écrit : On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 01:12 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: Can we enable the OLPC-specific patches and config in telepathy-salut in F-9? We're rebasing OLPC

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