Re: Important Announcement: Freenet naming change

[Marco A. Calamari]

On gio, 2023-01-19 at 15:18 -0600, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:17 AM Juiceman  wrote:
> > > > Speaking of steal: 
> > > > 
> > > > https://trademarks.justia.com/874/39/freenet-87439977.html
> > > 
> > > Given that our use of the name predates their trademark by 18 years and
> > > has been in active use that entire time, I don't think this trademark is a
> > > concern.
> > 
> > My only concern was someone was trading on Freenet's name with a similar
> > area of technology.
> > 
> 
> 
> Ah, understood. My instinct is that it wouldn't be worth our time to do
> anything about it - but I'll give it some thought. Thanks for mentioning it.

Should worth the time. 

I had a case for "Freedombox";  a reinvention, and had some need to prove prior
use to have the other part drop it.

No need for legal, in my case.

FWIW.   Marco

Re: Important Announcement: Freenet naming change

[Marco A. Calamari]

Hi Ian, how are you?

Being a lurker of Freenet in the last 10 years, after my initial involvement,  I
have no moral right to discuss the subject.

But in fact, I too do not understand the total silence on this subject on all
Freenet lists, including announce, before you mail.

IMHO it will be useful, and more polite too, to send some post here with link to
your video and public Locutus documents. 

I write this, of course, without taking any personal position on this subject. 

I know branding is very important in general, but is the evil himself in my
personal philosophy.

I'll start to study Locutus a little , and thanks, as always, for your work.

Marco

P.S. any trip to Italy in the near future?

On mar, 2023-01-17 at 08:04 -0600, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Dear Freenet users and developers,
> 
> I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to inform you of an important
> change that the Freenet Project board voted on unanimously on Friday. After
> much discussion over the past 18 months, we have decided to rename the
> codebase and software known internally as "Fred," to "Freenet Classic."
> 
> In addition, we are announcing that the new codebase, known internally as
> "Locutus," will be renamed to "Freenet." We understand that this is a big
> change and it carries risk, but the board believes that this risk is necessary
> in order to further the project's mission.
> 
> It is important to note that this change does not mean that Locutus is
> replacing Fred, which solves related but different problems. We will ensure
> that where Fred is the appropriate tool for people they will be directed to
> it.  Freenetproject.org will remain focused on Fred while linking to Locutus -
> as it has been for over two decades - while freenet.org will place
> more emphasis on Locutus, while still linking to Fred.
> 
> We will be implementing these changes over the coming days and weeks and would
> be grateful for your ideas and suggestions on how best to do this.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ian
> 

Re: Freenet World Domination Plan

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 01:22 +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Ian Clarke  writes:
> 
> > Some good suggestions.
> 
> Thank you! These are not suggestions, though, but things I see as good
> paths forward. They are where I consider my own time well spent.
> 
> > On the UI, this would require a rewrite
> 
> I disagree. To explain that, I’m making an exception from the "not a
> request for input" I wrote in my email.

...

Hi all.

This is an interesting thread that made me write to devl again from ages ago.

Complete rewrite adding a lot of thigs and debugging/polishing some plugins are
extreme plans that have each different modes of complete failure 'round the
corner.

Navigating somewhere in the middle may have better chances to complete IMHO.

JM2EC.Marco

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[freenet-dev] IFF Valencia

[Marco A. Calamari]

Hi all,
t
here will be any Freenet project active member at the
 IFF in Valencia from 3 to 5 march?

https://internetfreedomfestival.org/

If yes it will be a good spacetime point to meet
 and discuss an idea.

The idea is to use Freenet inmail plugin, or something
 derived from it, as delivery channel for Globaleaks
 whistleblowing software.

https://globaleaks.org/

In short, Globaleaks is an hidden Tor service application,
 that can be inistantiated by anyone, that allows 
 whistleblowers to submit information with strong 
 anonymity via Tor or Tor2Web.

Globaleaks is widely used in the investigative journalism
 and the like.

The info receiver is normally alerted by email
 or encrypted email to look for new info 
 on the Tor HS.

Having a different channel not disclosing the
 alert mail will be an interesting enhancement.

The rought idea is to use Freenet protocol via 
 inmail Freenet plugin or a custom-developed one.

It is a lot of time I'm not active on Freenet
 anymore, so discussing this issue here, directly 
 with some people via mail or best of all 
 in Valencia would be great.

Thanks.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] FT status update

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 08:35 -0500, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Marco A. Calamari 
> wrote:

...

> For example; the Freenet Project officially support
>  Wikileaks and push & maintain a mirror of it in Freenet.
> 
> Chances are that such announce will have more coverage
>  that a major Freenet release. And it will be one
>  "Right Thing to do", also (IMHO, of course).
> 
> 
> Yes, I think it would be beneficial to get a wikileaks mirror up again
>  in Freenet, but of course the project itself can't do it (since that
>  would make us responsible for its content).

Hmmm ... obviously, but the Project can only endorse the Wikileaks
 initiative, as EFF have done with Tor; after that, by coincidence, the
 Wikileaks mirror re-appear in Freenet and his activelink is put
 in Fred standard home with a declaration of non involvement in
 publishing ...

As before, just an idea; someone told me that questionable content
 published anonimously may already exist in Freenet.

Ciao.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] FT status update

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 08:35 -0500, Ian Clarke wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Marco A. Calamari marc...@dada.it
 wrote:

...

 For example; the Freenet Project officially support
  Wikileaks and push  maintain a mirror of it in Freenet.
 
 Chances are that such announce will have more coverage
  that a major Freenet release. And it will be one
  Right Thing to do, also (IMHO, of course).
 
 
 Yes, I think it would be beneficial to get a wikileaks mirror up again
  in Freenet, but of course the project itself can't do it (since that
  would make us responsible for its content).

Hmmm ... obviously, but the Project can only endorse the Wikileaks
 initiative, as EFF have done with Tor; after that, by coincidence, the
 Wikileaks mirror re-appear in Freenet and his activelink is put
 in Fred standard home with a declaration of non involvement in
 publishing ...

As before, just an idea; someone told me that questionable content
 published anonimously may already exist in Freenet.

Ciao.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] FT status update

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:26 -0500, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Thanks for the update Xor, 
> 
> Our funding is running pretty low so I'd really like to get some kind
> of major announcement out in the next week or two, and it would be
> great if a public FreeTalk release could be part of that. 

Just my two cents; I'm the first to be happy for a new major
 release ... especially one that doesn't need a reset of
 Freenet ... ;)

But put hurry on developement is, in my experience, always
 a bad idea, if not absolutely necessary.

So, if we really need publicity in news to raise funds,
 we can use a different announcement to have the same or
 even more effect.

For example; the Freenet Project officially support
 Wikileaks and push & maintain a mirror of it in Freenet.

Chances are that such announce will have more coverage
 that a major Freenet release. And it will be one 
 "Right Thing to do", also (IMHO, of course).

Again JM2C.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] FT status update

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:26 -0500, Ian Clarke wrote:
 Thanks for the update Xor, 
 
 Our funding is running pretty low so I'd really like to get some kind
 of major announcement out in the next week or two, and it would be
 great if a public FreeTalk release could be part of that. 

Just my two cents; I'm the first to be happy for a new major
 release ... especially one that doesn't need a reset of
 Freenet ... ;)

But put hurry on developement is, in my experience, always
 a bad idea, if not absolutely necessary.

So, if we really need publicity in news to raise funds,
 we can use a different announcement to have the same or
 even more effect.

For example; the Freenet Project officially support
 Wikileaks and push  maintain a mirror of it in Freenet.

Chances are that such announce will have more coverage
 that a major Freenet release. And it will be one 
 Right Thing to do, also (IMHO, of course).

Again JM2C.   Marco
 
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[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:33 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari 
> wrote:

> > Huh?  So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent
> > inserts.  The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc.
> 
> Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is
> persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new
> build.
> 
> So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely
> grumbling without giving us enough information to debug!

Please do not become nervous and do not scream.

I'm inserting a rather big site (over 2 parts) using
 jSite, with an effective bandwidth of 0.3 KB/sec (calculated
 by jSite. The site usually insert in 4-7 days.
No bug at all, but if an update become mandatory in less days
 that the site inserts, the jSite insert obviously fail.

I do not know how insert sites in other ways; persistent insert
 are only for files, isn't it?

I'm not grumbling.  Peace.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:33 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote:
  On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari marc...@dada.it
 wrote:

  Huh?  So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent
  inserts.  The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc.
 
 Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is
 persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new
 build.
 
 So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely
 grumbling without giving us enough information to debug!

Please do not become nervous and do not scream.

I'm inserting a rather big site (over 2 parts) using
 jSite, with an effective bandwidth of 0.3 KB/sec (calculated
 by jSite. The site usually insert in 4-7 days.
No bug at all, but if an update become mandatory in less days
 that the site inserts, the jSite insert obviously fail.

I do not know how insert sites in other ways; persistent insert
 are only for files, isn't it?

I'm not grumbling.  Peace.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] USK bookmark updating is broken IMHO, anyone else observing the same?

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 20:26 +0200, xor wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> toad did some major work on USK before 1255, maybe in 1254 or so, I
> cannot 
> remember which one it was.
> 
> I have the strong feeling that the current code does not cause
> "Bookmarked 
> site updated" notifications for every update which happens to a
> Freesite
> - I have observed that my node missed to tell me about an update for
> at least 
> 2 different Freesites, for example toad's flog. If I browse to the
> Freesites the 
> node DOES seem to show me the latest edition - it just doesn't notify
> me about 
> it (even after having browsed to the latest edition there is no
> update 
> notification).
> 
> Does anyone else have the same feeling?

Positively yes.

Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] USK bookmark updating is broken IMHO, anyone else observing the same?

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 20:26 +0200, xor wrote:
 
 Hey,
 
 toad did some major work on USK before 1255, maybe in 1254 or so, I
 cannot 
 remember which one it was.
 
 I have the strong feeling that the current code does not cause
 Bookmarked 
 site updated notifications for every update which happens to a
 Freesite
 - I have observed that my node missed to tell me about an update for
 at least 
 2 different Freesites, for example toad's flog. If I browse to the
 Freesites the 
 node DOES seem to show me the latest edition - it just doesn't notify
 me about 
 it (even after having browsed to the latest edition there is no
 update 
 notification).
 
 Does anyone else have the same feeling?

Positively yes.

Marco

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[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:59 -0400, Evan Daniel wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marco A. Calamari 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:30 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >> Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 is now available, please upgrade. This
> build
> >> fixes various bugs, mostly introduced in 1255, including the
> Internal
> >> error on some persistent
> >
> > No way to insert medium/big thing since long, long times ago .
> 
> What do you mean by this?  What did you do, and what happened?

Too many incompatible/forced freenet updates make impossible to run long
 inserts

Just this

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[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:30 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 is now available, please upgrade. This build
> fixes various bugs, mostly introduced in 1255, including the Internal
> error on some persistent 

No way to insert medium/big thing since long, long times ago .

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Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:30 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 is now available, please upgrade. This build
 fixes various bugs, mostly introduced in 1255, including the Internal
 error on some persistent 

No way to insert medium/big thing since long, long times ago .

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Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:59 -0400, Evan Daniel wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marco A. Calamari marc...@dada.it
 wrote:
  On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:30 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
  Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 is now available, please upgrade. This
 build
  fixes various bugs, mostly introduced in 1255, including the
 Internal
  error on some persistent
 
  No way to insert medium/big thing since long, long times ago .
 
 What do you mean by this?  What did you do, and what happened?

Too many incompatible/forced freenet updates make impossible to run long
 inserts

Just this

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[freenet-dev] Large file upload

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 09:32 -0500, Evan Daniel wrote:
> > I can add to this that also jSite try to compress (and worse store
> as
> >  cmmpressed files) files that are already compessed, i.e. .exe
> and .jpg
> 
> Last I checked, most .exe files weren't compressed, and jpeg images
> could frequently be compressed slightly further by good algorithms.
> 
> Also, in the normal case for jSite, you're uploading a collection of
> files as a single freesite.  In that case, what actually happens is
> that any smallish files get combined into one container (like a tar or
> zip file) and then encoded and compressed as a group.  So if you have
> some html that compresses well, and some jpegs that compress a little
> bit, and some data that doesn't at all, then it will all be packed
> into one container and compressed together.

This is probably done by fred, but I was referring to what jSite
 does.

Previous incarnation of jSite allow to specify in XML directives or by
 the interface what files need to be included in one or more compressed
 containers.

Now the interface option is gone, jSite still honors the directives in
 present in config7 files, but at the end container generation/insertion
 fail, and while jSite give "mission accomplished" all files inside the
 containner are not found by fred.

 Marco

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[freenet-dev] Large file upload

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 19:01 -0600, Ian Clarke wrote:
> I'm trying to upload a 1.25 GiB AVI recording of a lecture, and its
> been compressing for over an hour.  Why is Freenet trying to compress
> files that are already compressed, and why does it take so long?
> 
> We need more content in Freenet, its rather discouraging when you try
> to upload something and it uses 100% of your CPU for several hours
> trying to compress something that is probably incompressible.

I can add to this that also jSite try to compress (and worse store as
 cmmpressed files) files that are already compessed, i.e. .exe and .jpg


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Re: [freenet-dev] Large file upload

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 19:01 -0600, Ian Clarke wrote:
 I'm trying to upload a 1.25 GiB AVI recording of a lecture, and its
 been compressing for over an hour.  Why is Freenet trying to compress
 files that are already compressed, and why does it take so long?
 
 We need more content in Freenet, its rather discouraging when you try
 to upload something and it uses 100% of your CPU for several hours
 trying to compress something that is probably incompressible.

I can add to this that also jSite try to compress (and worse store as
 cmmpressed files) files that are already compessed, i.e. .exe and .jpg


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Re: [freenet-dev] Large file upload

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 09:32 -0500, Evan Daniel wrote:
  I can add to this that also jSite try to compress (and worse store
 as
   cmmpressed files) files that are already compessed, i.e. .exe
 and .jpg
 
 Last I checked, most .exe files weren't compressed, and jpeg images
 could frequently be compressed slightly further by good algorithms.
 
 Also, in the normal case for jSite, you're uploading a collection of
 files as a single freesite.  In that case, what actually happens is
 that any smallish files get combined into one container (like a tar or
 zip file) and then encoded and compressed as a group.  So if you have
 some html that compresses well, and some jpegs that compress a little
 bit, and some data that doesn't at all, then it will all be packed
 into one container and compressed together.

This is probably done by fred, but I was referring to what jSite
 does.

Previous incarnation of jSite allow to specify in XML directives or by
 the interface what files need to be included in one or more compressed
 containers.

Now the interface option is gone, jSite still honors the directives in
 present in config7 files, but at the end container generation/insertion
 fail, and while jSite give mission accomplished all files inside the
 containner are not found by fred.

 Marco

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[freenet-dev] Questions about insertions

[Marco A. Calamari]

I had a very random experience using jSite respect
 to the old FIW.

I hope someone can answer some dead zone I still
 have,

What is the function of the "replacement" checkbox in jSite
 and the related number box. Is this connected
 with the refreshment of a freesite, i.e. reinsert
 a site without any change in files and in version
 number?

It is possible to avoid recompress non compressible
 file as zip or images?

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[freenet-dev] Updating the wiki

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 23:08 +0100, Michael T?nzer wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > [19:03]  toad_, I think we have to have a look on the wiki
> > [19:03]  especially the install thingies should be correct when 
> > we 
> > release the alpha
> > 
> > I understand that some of the non-english wiki pages still refer to 
> > #freenet-refs ? Could their owners / other people speaking the languages in 
> > question please update them?
> > 
> 
> Well that could be still the case (I mentioned it at #freenet-es and
> some other channel (#freenet-se?) when I saw it) but wasn't the thing I
> wanted to point at.
> 
> The install sections (e.g. QuickStart) sometimes explain how things were
> done with older installers. Now some things have changed:
> 
> - - we use a new java based installer, which provides different options
> than the older one (e.g. no extended or poweruser mode)
> 
> - - does running another freenet node during install cause problems
> anymore? (worked well for me, during a test install) but this is a minor
> issue.
> 
> - - we do have a install wizard (http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/) and a full
> featured config-page so as long as the node starts up properly we
> probably don't want to edit the freenet.ini by hand (we could provide
> the corresponding option in the freenet.ini for advanced users though
> but we don't want to make this the default procedure as it's likely to
> produce errors)
> 
> - - has someone tested the offline installer recently? I tried it with the
> steps and installer provided some weeks ago, but it failed

Yes, I used it one week ago, and it worked flawlessy
It didn't asked nothing to me, nor said anything useful,
 and I need to configure the node via ssh tunnel to
 fproxy with no hint for first time users
 (the computer was an headless one)

Can the wiki publish CC'ed docs.
I have a series of step by step articles to
 newbies in Italian; I can ask my publisher
 to republish on procect site or wiki

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Re: [freenet-dev] Updating the wiki

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 23:08 +0100, Michael Tänzer wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Matthew Toseland schrieb:
  [19:03] NEOatNHNG toad_, I think we have to have a look on the wiki
  [19:03] NEOatNHNG especially the install thingies should be correct when 
  we 
  release the alpha
  
  I understand that some of the non-english wiki pages still refer to 
  #freenet-refs ? Could their owners / other people speaking the languages in 
  question please update them?
  
 
 Well that could be still the case (I mentioned it at #freenet-es and
 some other channel (#freenet-se?) when I saw it) but wasn't the thing I
 wanted to point at.
 
 The install sections (e.g. QuickStart) sometimes explain how things were
 done with older installers. Now some things have changed:
 
 - - we use a new java based installer, which provides different options
 than the older one (e.g. no extended or poweruser mode)
 
 - - does running another freenet node during install cause problems
 anymore? (worked well for me, during a test install) but this is a minor
 issue.
 
 - - we do have a install wizard (http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/) and a full
 featured config-page so as long as the node starts up properly we
 probably don't want to edit the freenet.ini by hand (we could provide
 the corresponding option in the freenet.ini for advanced users though
 but we don't want to make this the default procedure as it's likely to
 produce errors)
 
 - - has someone tested the offline installer recently? I tried it with the
 steps and installer provided some weeks ago, but it failed

Yes, I used it one week ago, and it worked flawlessy
It didn't asked nothing to me, nor said anything useful,
 and I need to configure the node via ssh tunnel to
 fproxy with no hint for first time users
 (the computer was an headless one)

Can the wiki publish CC'ed docs.
I have a series of step by step articles to
 newbies in Italian; I can ask my publisher
 to republish on procect site or wiki

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[freenet-dev] Questions about insertions

[Marco A. Calamari]

I had a very random experience using jSite respect
 to the old FIW.

I hope someone can answer some dead zone I still
 have,

What is the function of the replacement checkbox in jSite
 and the related number box. Is this connected
 with the refreshment of a freesite, i.e. reinsert
 a site without any change in files and in version
 number?

It is possible to avoid recompress non compressible
 file as zip or images?

Many thanks.   Marco


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[freenet-dev] For toad.

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 19:20 -0500, Cooo heter wrote:
> Hi toad.
> On saturday night you asked for my maxmemory in the #freenet channel,
> discussion below time is gmt+1
> 
> [01:08]  Cooo: hf
> [01:08]  I wonder what'll happen to me
...
> ord to fight the monsters under the bed. :P
> [01:12]  good night folk
> [01:12] <-- toad_ has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection
> reset by peer)).
> 
> 
> I guess you meant wrapper.java.maxmemory   ?  I have it set to 2000

   2Gb ?!?! really ? Why ?

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Re: [freenet-dev] For toad.

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 19:20 -0500, Cooo heter wrote:
 Hi toad.
 On saturday night you asked for my maxmemory in the #freenet channel,
 discussion below time is gmt+1
 
 [01:08] Smar Cooo: hf
 [01:08] Smar I wonder what'll happen to me
...
 ord to fight the monsters under the bed. :P
 [01:12] toad_ good night folk
 [01:12] -- toad_ has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection
 reset by peer)).
 
 
 I guess you meant wrapper.java.maxmemory   ?  I have it set to 2000

   2Gb ?!?! really ? Why ?

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[freenet-dev] Usability testing results

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On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:01 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Sunday 23 December 2007 12:40, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 01:21 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > I've done some usability testing with a local newbie volunteer. The main 
> > > conclusions:
> > 
> > I suggest to include datastore size & percentage on the
> >  stats page in non-expert mode
> 
> Where exactly?

a small section "Info Datastore" on config page between "Node Version
Information" and "info JVM" sections


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Re: [freenet-dev] Usability testing results

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:01 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Sunday 23 December 2007 12:40, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 01:21 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
   I've done some usability testing with a local newbie volunteer. The main 
   conclusions:
  
  I suggest to include datastore size  percentage on the
   stats page in non-expert mode
 
 Where exactly?

a small section Info Datastore on config page between Node Version
Information and info JVM sections


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[freenet-dev] Usability testing results

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 01:21 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> I've done some usability testing with a local newbie volunteer. The main 
> conclusions:
> 

I suggest to include datastore size & percentage on the
 stats page in non-expert mode

Ciao.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] Usability testing results

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On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 01:21 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 I've done some usability testing with a local newbie volunteer. The main 
 conclusions:
 

I suggest to include datastore size  percentage on the
 stats page in non-expert mode

Ciao.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] Re: Ubernode shutting down

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On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 08:59 +, Thomas Bruderer wrote:
> > Not the near future. This year perhaps, but not the immediate future.
> 
> this year "perhaps"? 
> Why not?
> 
> 0.5 seems officially deprecated since it's not on the project site anymore, if
> you dont know where to look, and 0.7 is just not for the users. So you let 
> both
> networks die.

For the Freenet contents it is certainly true.

I remember what happened 0.2 version ago .

The winning opinion here is that killing the
 previous version move resources to the
 new one.

The minority report say that each time
 we reset contents we lose a lot
 of angry publishers, that would
 be happy to maintain contents on both.

JM2C.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: Ubernode shutting down

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 08:59 +, Thomas Bruderer wrote:
  Not the near future. This year perhaps, but not the immediate future.
 
 this year perhaps? 
 Why not?
 
 0.5 seems officially deprecated since it's not on the project site anymore, if
 you dont know where to look, and 0.7 is just not for the users. So you let 
 both
 networks die.

For the Freenet contents it is certainly true.

I remember what happened 0.2 version ago .

The winning opinion here is that killing the
 previous version move resources to the
 new one.

The minority report say that each time
 we reset contents we lose a lot
 of angry publishers, that would
 be happy to maintain contents on both.

JM2C.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] Draft announcement for 0.7 alpha

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 15:13 -0800, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Guys, I have been working on a draft of our announcement of the  
> Freenet 0.7 alpha, its in the wiki at:
> 
>http://wiki.freenetproject.org/ZeroPointSevenAnnouncementDraft
> 
> (NOTE that only logged in users will be able to view or edit this).
> 
> If anyone thinks they can improve it, please feel free to give it a  
> shot.  Our goal will be to announce tomorrow.  Now is also the time  
> for any minor tweaking before release, in particular, it is important  
> that our installation process is seamless, you can see the download  
> page for 0.7 at:
> 
>http://freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download-new
> 
> All comments are welcome, and should be delivered ASAP,

Hi Ian,

I understand that trying to fund the Project is
 a real need, and the release of a new version
 is a good idea to have more funding and attention.
I fear that this is true only in the short term, but
 a so anticipated release can adversely affect
 Freenet in medion to long term.
The draft announce, while stating that this is an alpha
 communicate the idea that a new Freenet is born.
This can lead normal users to think:

1) that 0.7 is an upgrade path
2) that they can use in in place of 0.5 for their
 Freenet needs

I think that, to avoid what happened in 0.3 to 0.5
 transition (we were without a working Freenet 
 for a very, very long period) the announce 
 must explicitly give information and stress it
 to avoid this situation.

I fear that a lot of user now running 0.5 try
 to blindly switch to 0.7, have no results,
 and drop freenet entirely. And that this
 collapse the 5106 net and all the freesites
 that are inside .

Being 0.7 a Darknet totally separate, by data
 and protocol, from 0.5, it doesn't need
 a massive switch of user; maybe that only
 a part 0.5 users choose to run both nodes.

JM2C

Ciao.   Marco


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Re: [freenet-dev] Draft announcement for 0.7 alpha

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 15:13 -0800, Ian Clarke wrote:
 Guys, I have been working on a draft of our announcement of the  
 Freenet 0.7 alpha, its in the wiki at:
 
http://wiki.freenetproject.org/ZeroPointSevenAnnouncementDraft
 
 (NOTE that only logged in users will be able to view or edit this).
 
 If anyone thinks they can improve it, please feel free to give it a  
 shot.  Our goal will be to announce tomorrow.  Now is also the time  
 for any minor tweaking before release, in particular, it is important  
 that our installation process is seamless, you can see the download  
 page for 0.7 at:
 
http://freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download-new
 
 All comments are welcome, and should be delivered ASAP,

Hi Ian,

I understand that trying to fund the Project is
 a real need, and the release of a new version
 is a good idea to have more funding and attention.
I fear that this is true only in the short term, but
 a so anticipated release can adversely affect
 Freenet in medion to long term.
The draft announce, while stating that this is an alpha
 communicate the idea that a new Freenet is born.
This can lead normal users to think:

1) that 0.7 is an upgrade path
2) that they can use in in place of 0.5 for their
 Freenet needs

I think that, to avoid what happened in 0.3 to 0.5
 transition (we were without a working Freenet 
 for a very, very long period) the announce 
 must explicitly give information and stress it
 to avoid this situation.

I fear that a lot of user now running 0.5 try
 to blindly switch to 0.7, have no results,
 and drop freenet entirely. And that this
 collapse the 5106 net and all the freesites
 that are inside .

Being 0.7 a Darknet totally separate, by data
 and protocol, from 0.5, it doesn't need
 a massive switch of user; maybe that only
 a part 0.5 users choose to run both nodes.

JM2C

Ciao.   Marco


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[freenet-dev] Forcing a native library

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 11:14 +0200, Florent Daigni?re (NextGen$) wrote:


>   Yes, unfortunatly there is no optimized library aviable for x86
>   before pentium processors (as they were the first generation to
>   bundle an arithmetic co-processor).
> 
>   Anyway, I will help you building a native library if needed.
>   from
>   
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_9863_13022%5E13058,00.html,
>   I don't get what instruction set is supported : 
> 
>   "x86/x87-compatible core" / " Integrated FPU that supports the
>   Intel MMX? and AMD 3DNow!\u2122 Technology instruction sets"
> 
>   it's a bit vague :) But I do think that the "pentiummx" binary
>   is the most appropriated for your purpose. The Geode processor
>   seems to be "better" than an old 386 :)
> 
>   If you are planning to *use* freenet on this chip, I do
>   recommand that you try building your own native library. I can
>   help you with that if you manage to pick me up on IRC (#freenet
>   on irc.freenode.net). It shouldn't be a big deal if you have a
>   working C compiler, gnu/make and a working jvm.

Yes, but first I need to be able to load it . ;)

fnrun at pboxlevel4:~/freenet$ ./start-freenet.sh &
[1] 16578
fnrun at pboxlevel4:~/freenet$ Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx256m
-Djbigi.impl=net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-pentiummmx.so
-XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main
Done
os.arch = i386
Loading native...
Attempting to load freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so
Written to /tmp/jcpuid37020lib.tmp: 55692
INFO: Native CPUID library
'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from
resource
INFO: Non-optimized native BigInteger library
'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-none.so' loaded from resource

Giving various flavour of library name.
(full path, just filename, just os+cpu filename part)
didn't work.

Thanks a lot.   Marco


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[freenet-dev] Forcing a native library

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 13:47 +0100, Florent Daigni?re (NextGen$) wrote:
> * Marco A. Calamari  [2006-03-24 12:27:38]:
> 
> > 
> > I'm running a freenet stable node on an embedded processor
> >  AMD Geode, that is i386 fully compatible; I run a stock
> >  Linux Debian kernel on it.
> > 
> > Freenet of course load the generic library.
> > 
> > There is a way to force the loading of the right native library, the
> >  386 one ? What is the name of the library ?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot.   Marco
> > 
> Hi,
> 
>   I suggest you read the header of
>   
> https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/trunk/freenet/src/net/i2p/util/NativeBigInteger.java
> 
>   Please keep us posted on how "fast" are the native libraries on
>   this platform.
> 
>   To do a benchmark, use this command line :
>   java -cp freenet-latest.jar:freenet-ext.jar 
> net.i2p.util.NativeBigInteger

Reaing the header (I doesn't know java) I understood add 

-Djbigi.impl=

to the last line of start-freenet.sh

But reading the code it seems to me that there is no
 librari for I386

Are my understantings correct ?

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Re: [freenet-dev] Forcing a native library

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 13:47 +0100, Florent Daignière (NextGen$) wrote:
 * Marco A. Calamari [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-24 12:27:38]:
 
  
  I'm running a freenet stable node on an embedded processor
   AMD Geode, that is i386 fully compatible; I run a stock
   Linux Debian kernel on it.
  
  Freenet of course load the generic library.
  
  There is a way to force the loading of the right native library, the
   386 one ? What is the name of the library ?
  
  Thanks a lot.   Marco
  
 Hi,
 
   I suggest you read the header of
   
 https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/trunk/freenet/src/net/i2p/util/NativeBigInteger.java
 
   Please keep us posted on how fast are the native libraries on
   this platform.
 
   To do a benchmark, use this command line :
   java -cp freenet-latest.jar:freenet-ext.jar 
 net.i2p.util.NativeBigInteger

Reaing the header (I doesn't know java) I understood add 

-Djbigi.impl=

to the last line of start-freenet.sh

But reading the code it seems to me that there is no
 librari for I386

Are my understantings correct ?

Thx.   Marco
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Re: [freenet-dev] Forcing a native library

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 11:14 +0200, Florent Daignière (NextGen$) wrote:


   Yes, unfortunatly there is no optimized library aviable for x86
   before pentium processors (as they were the first generation to
   bundle an arithmetic co-processor).
 
   Anyway, I will help you building a native library if needed.
   from
   
 http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_9863_13022%5E13058,00.html,
   I don't get what instruction set is supported : 
 
   x86/x87-compatible core /  Integrated FPU that supports the
   Intel MMX® and AMD 3DNow!\u2122 Technology instruction sets
 
   it's a bit vague :) But I do think that the pentiummx binary
   is the most appropriated for your purpose. The Geode processor
   seems to be better than an old 386 :)
 
   If you are planning to *use* freenet on this chip, I do
   recommand that you try building your own native library. I can
   help you with that if you manage to pick me up on IRC (#freenet
   on irc.freenode.net). It shouldn't be a big deal if you have a
   working C compiler, gnu/make and a working jvm.

Yes, but first I need to be able to load it . ;)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ ./start-freenet.sh 
[1] 16578
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx256m
-Djbigi.impl=net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-pentiummmx.so
-XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main
Done
os.arch = i386
Loading native...
Attempting to load freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so
Written to /tmp/jcpuid37020lib.tmp: 55692
INFO: Native CPUID library
'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from
resource
INFO: Non-optimized native BigInteger library
'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-none.so' loaded from resource

Giving various flavour of library name.
(full path, just filename, just os+cpu filename part)
didn't work.

Thanks a lot.   Marco


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I'm running a freenet stable node on an embedded processor
 AMD Geode, that is i386 fully compatible; I run a stock
 Linux Debian kernel on it.

Freenet of course load the generic library.

There is a way to force the loading of the right native library, the
 386 one ? What is the name of the library ?

Thanks a lot.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] Forcing a native library

[Marco A. Calamari]

I'm running a freenet stable node on an embedded processor
 AMD Geode, that is i386 fully compatible; I run a stock
 Linux Debian kernel on it.

Freenet of course load the generic library.

There is a way to force the loading of the right native library, the
 386 one ? What is the name of the library ?

Thanks a lot.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] Gateway list & status page

[Marco A. Calamari]

The original purpose of the page was to allow
 people that need a gateway, because of lack
 of a local node, to find easily a working gateway.

But in fact it can be use as diagnostic tool, and
 modified accordingly.

But there is a problem; the data comes from the fproxy
 page, so the node must be public.

And if a node act as public gateway *must* be SSL tunneled,
 for the users privacy.

Maybe we can split the page in two; one for SSL gateway
 and one for public, non-SSL ones.

Leonardo Giacomelli, the Gw page author & mantainer,
 read this in cc:

Leo, what is your opinion ?

Ciao.   Marco

At 13.47 08/05/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>Wow - this is really cool, and potentially a very useful diagnostic tool 
>for the network as a whole.  It might be nice to provide a more compact 
>view of the list of nodes (in addition to the currently detailed 
>information), so that people could compare them more easily.
>
>Ian.
>
>On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 09:59:45PM +0200, marcoc1 at dada.it wrote:
>> 
>> You can find here
>> 
>> http://oberon.novealpi.it/freenet/index.php
>> 
>> a page that list all known public gateways, their
>>  parameter & some statistics.
>> 
>> You can use the included form to add your public gateway, 
>>  if you wish.
>> 
>> Being this a running, real public service, we suggest
>>  to realize https (SSL tunneled) gateways only to preserve
>>  users privacy.
>> 
>> Normal (http) gateway will be accepted too.

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[freenet-dev] Job Jar Report

[Marco A. Calamari]

>
>> >Perhaps EasyFreenet (by giannibi)  can be used as official
>> > Kaffe bundled distro ? It install a jailed version of
>> > Freenet using a cvs version of kaffe.
>
>That is pretty cool, it would be really nice to see this in DEB and
>RPM formats.  I assume that it downloads the jar, rather than bundling
>one? 

There is a bundled jar, but the user has the option
 to download an update during the installation process.

There is a deb mantainer for Freenet; we'll try to ask him
 if he can prepare a .deb. to allow an apt-get for Debian
 user.

As for Rpm, EasyFreenet is a self contained, self extracting
 sh archive, that install all files in a new, single directory with no
 sparse file in the filesystem, so the usefulness of a rpm is not of
 the same importance as for normal, sparse programs.

I'll ask the author anyway.

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[freenet-dev] Job Jar Report

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>
>> >Perhaps EasyFreenet (by giannibi)  can be used as official
>> > Kaffe bundled distro ? It install a jailed version of
>> > Freenet using a cvs version of kaffe.
>
>That is pretty cool, it would be really nice to see this in DEB and
>RPM formats.  I assume that it downloads the jar, rather than bundling
>one?

There is a bundled jar, but the user has the option
 to download an update during the installation process.

There is a deb mantainer for Freenet; we'll try to ask him
 if he can prepare a .deb. to allow an apt-get for Debian
 user.

As for Rpm, EasyFreenet is a self contained, self extracting
 sh archive, that install all files in a new, single directory with no
 sparse file in the filesystem, so the usefulness of a rpm is not of
 the same importance as for normal, sparse programs.

I'll ask the author anyway.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Job Jar Report

[Marco A. Calamari]

 Perhaps EasyFreenet (by giannibi)  can be used as official
  Kaffe bundled distro ? It install a jailed version of
  Freenet using a cvs version of kaffe.

That is pretty cool, it would be really nice to see this in DEB and
RPM formats.  I assume that it downloads the jar, rather than bundling
one? 

There is a bundled jar, but the user has the option
 to download an update during the installation process.

There is a deb mantainer for Freenet; we'll try to ask him
 if he can prepare a .deb. to allow an apt-get for Debian
 user.

As for Rpm, EasyFreenet is a self contained, self extracting
 sh archive, that install all files in a new, single directory with no
 sparse file in the filesystem, so the usefulness of a rpm is not of
 the same importance as for normal, sparse programs.

I'll ask the author anyway.

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[freenet-dev] patch to fproxy to change freenet key detection

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At 21.35 06/12/02 -0800, you wrote:
>It never really made sense to me that fproxy would
>reject keys that start with freenet: so I fixed
>that... I'm not sure if this is the best way to pull
>it off but it does work. Patch in diff -u format
>attached.


Hi Tyler

Maybe you mean that fproxy would reject keys that
 *DOESN'T* start with freenet 

The reason for this was to stop people that think fproxy
 is a search engine, and display an informative
 message about that.

IMHO it makes a lot of sense, but my cvs access
 is readonly, so I can just ask you nto to commit
 your patch.

FWIW.   Marco


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Re: [freenet-dev] patch to fproxy to change freenet key detection

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 21.35 06/12/02 -0800, you wrote:
It never really made sense to me that fproxy would
reject keys that start with freenet: so I fixed
that... I'm not sure if this is the best way to pull
it off but it does work. Patch in diff -u format
attached.


Hi Tyler

Maybe you mean that fproxy would reject keys that
 *DOESN'T* start with freenet 

The reason for this was to stop people that think fproxy
 is a search engine, and display an informative
 message about that.

IMHO it makes a lot of sense, but my cvs access
 is readonly, so I can just ask you nto to commit
 your patch.

FWIW.   Marco


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[freenet-dev] Kaffe (in)compatibility

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 14.32 19/11/02 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:


>On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:07:19AM +0100, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
>>=20
>> It is since 535 that the stable & unstable
>>  version of Freenet became are incompatible
>>  with all version of Kaffe, including 1.0.7 cvs.
>Since about 510 Kaffe hasn't worked for me with freenet. The fact that
>it suddenly stopped working at all and started crashing reliably within
>minutes of starting up, after I tried to resolve it for far too long,
>lead me to "upgrade" to first the IBM JVM, which is not usable for
>development because it doesn't give stack traces in full speed mode,
>then finally to the Sun JVM. I have given up on Kaffe, it has serious
>problems that do not stem from a single unimplemented method.

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Matthew,

while I obviously agree about the present developement
 status of Kaffe, our experiences are opposite.

Using patched kaffe 1.0.6, and now 1.0.7 our permanent
 node runs happily for weeks (before 535), albeit with slightly
 lower performance respect sun jre 1.3.1_02

... but is the only choice.

Using a Darth Vader citation   

Do not underestimate the Power (and importance) of Free Software.

JM2C.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] Kaffe (in)compatibility

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 18.30 19/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Marco A. Calamari (marcoc1 at dada.it) wrote:
>
>> It is since 535 that the stable & unstable
>>  version of Freenet became are incompatible
>>  with all version of Kaffe, including 1.0.7 cvs.
>
>My Kaffe-powered node begs to differ with you.

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So maybe we ca check each othe config & try to understand
 why.

You haven't the problem I run into?

Where your version ok kaffe came from ?
Kernel, distribution ?

I'll give my info ASAP; I need to double check
 it with the sysop of the server

Coming soon   Ciao.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] Kaffe (in)compatibility

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At 18.30 19/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
Marco A. Calamari ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 It is since 535 that the stable  unstable
  version of Freenet became are incompatible
  with all version of Kaffe, including 1.0.7 cvs.

My Kaffe-powered node begs to differ with you.

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So maybe we ca check each othe config  try to understand
 why.

You haven't the problem I run into?

Where your version ok kaffe came from ?
Kernel, distribution ?

I'll give my info ASAP; I need to double check
 it with the sysop of the server

Coming soon   Ciao.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-dev] Kaffe (in)compatibility

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At 14.32 19/11/02 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:


On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:07:19AM +0100, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
=20
 It is since 535 that the stable  unstable
  version of Freenet became are incompatible
  with all version of Kaffe, including 1.0.7 cvs.
Since about 510 Kaffe hasn't worked for me with freenet. The fact that
it suddenly stopped working at all and started crashing reliably within
minutes of starting up, after I tried to resolve it for far too long,
lead me to upgrade to first the IBM JVM, which is not usable for
development because it doesn't give stack traces in full speed mode,
then finally to the Sun JVM. I have given up on Kaffe, it has serious
problems that do not stem from a single unimplemented method.

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Matthew,

while I obviously agree about the present developement
 status of Kaffe, our experiences are opposite.

Using patched kaffe 1.0.6, and now 1.0.7 our permanent
 node runs happily for weeks (before 535), albeit with slightly
 lower performance respect sun jre 1.3.1_02

... but is the only choice.

Using a Darth Vader citation   

Do not underestimate the Power (and importance) of Free Software.

JM2C.   Marco

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[freenet-dev] Kaffe (in)compatibility

[Marco A. Calamari]

It is since 535 that the stable & unstable
 version of Freenet became are incompatible
 with all version of Kaffe, including 1.0.7 cvs.

 From an inspection of the error code it seems
 to me that this particular incompatibility
 arise from a single call of single method that
 kaffe hasn't.

Due to the commitment of the Freenet Project
 to the Free Software, an inspection of this
 question  with a patch if my pre-analisys
 is correct seems IMHO important.

One side effect of this enduring situation
 would be the phase out of all nodes that
 use Debian or that are on server with policies
 that forbid non-free software,

This is the dump of the error

19-Nov-02 9:07:28 AM (freenet.support.io.Bandwidth, main): new 
Bandwidth(10,0,BOTH)
19-Nov-02 9:07:28 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading node keys: node_19115
19-Nov-02 9:07:28 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem
19-Nov-02 9:07:39 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store
19-Nov-02 9:07:39 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 
freenet/support/DataObjectUnloadedException.getDataInputStream()Ljava/io/DataInputStream;
at freenet.node.LoadStats.getLoadEntry(LoadStats.java:381)
at freenet.node.LoadStats.(LoadStats.java:75)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:646)

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[freenet-dev] Kaffe (in)compatibility

[Marco A. Calamari]

It is since 535 that the stable  unstable
 version of Freenet became are incompatible
 with all version of Kaffe, including 1.0.7 cvs.

 From an inspection of the error code it seems
 to me that this particular incompatibility
 arise from a single call of single method that
 kaffe hasn't.

Due to the commitment of the Freenet Project
 to the Free Software, an inspection of this
 question  with a patch if my pre-analisys
 is correct seems IMHO important.

One side effect of this enduring situation
 would be the phase out of all nodes that
 use Debian or that are on server with policies
 that forbid non-free software,

This is the dump of the error

19-Nov-02 9:07:28 AM (freenet.support.io.Bandwidth, main): new Bandwidth(10,0,BOTH)
19-Nov-02 9:07:28 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading node keys: node_19115
19-Nov-02 9:07:28 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem
19-Nov-02 9:07:39 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store
19-Nov-02 9:07:39 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 
freenet/support/DataObjectUnloadedException.getDataInputStream()Ljava/io/DataInputStream;
at freenet.node.LoadStats.getLoadEntry(LoadStats.java:381)
at freenet.node.LoadStats.init(LoadStats.java:75)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:646)

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[freenet-dev] Tunneled Fproxy insert

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 14.36 07/11/02 +, you wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:36:52PM +0100, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
>>=20
>> In the stable release build 530,
>>  the insert code in fproxy is broken
>>  again when inserting a key via an
>>  ssl tunnel
>>=20
>> http://bespin.homelinux.net:
>> https://bespin.homelinux.net:443
>Works for me. That seems to be running 611 though...

On the 5th of november it was  ;)

Anyway I tested today situation (534 & 616)

Doing some more test, and I found that is something
 browser dependent (security setting of the same
 browser too).

e.g. plain IE 5.0 on win98 worked; Opera 6 not.

I'll do some more check and post any useful results.

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[freenet-dev] Freenet with Kaffe

[Marco A. Calamari]

While freenet 0.5.0.7 (534) works with our loved
 Kaffe 1.0.7, the release

1446093 Nov  8 13:29 freenet-latest.jar

and all the unstable ones I tested dead horribly with
 this message on standard error (not on the log, that
 I prepend)


08-Nov-02 1:41:59 PM (freenet.support.io.Bandwidth, main): new 
Bandwidth(10,0,BOTH)
08-Nov-02 1:41:59 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading node keys: node_19115
08-Nov-02 1:41:59 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem
08-Nov-02 1:42:07 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store
08-Nov-02 1:42:07 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 
freenet/support/DataObjectUnloadedException.getDataInputStream()Ljava/io/DataInputStream;
at freenet.node.LoadStats.getLoadEntry(LoadStats.java:381)
at freenet.node.LoadStats.(LoadStats.java:75)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:645)

I and a lot of my LUG friends think that the compatibility of
 Freenet with free software is a must; please don't remove it.

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[freenet-dev] Freenet with Kaffe

[Marco A. Calamari]

While freenet 0.5.0.7 (534) works with our loved
 Kaffe 1.0.7, the release

1446093 Nov  8 13:29 freenet-latest.jar

and all the unstable ones I tested dead horribly with
 this message on standard error (not on the log, that
 I prepend)


08-Nov-02 1:41:59 PM (freenet.support.io.Bandwidth, main): new Bandwidth(10,0,BOTH)
08-Nov-02 1:41:59 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading node keys: node_19115
08-Nov-02 1:41:59 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem
08-Nov-02 1:42:07 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store
08-Nov-02 1:42:07 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 
freenet/support/DataObjectUnloadedException.getDataInputStream()Ljava/io/DataInputStream;
at freenet.node.LoadStats.getLoadEntry(LoadStats.java:381)
at freenet.node.LoadStats.init(LoadStats.java:75)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:645)

I and a lot of my LUG friends think that the compatibility of
 Freenet with free software is a must; please don't remove it.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Tunneled Fproxy insert

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At 14.36 07/11/02 +, you wrote:

On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:36:52PM +0100, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
=20
 In the stable release build 530,
  the insert code in fproxy is broken
  again when inserting a key via an
  ssl tunnel
=20
 http://bespin.homelinux.net:
 https://bespin.homelinux.net:443
Works for me. That seems to be running 611 though...

On the 5th of november it was  ;)

Anyway I tested today situation (534  616)

Doing some more test, and I found that is something
 browser dependent (security setting of the same
 browser too).

e.g. plain IE 5.0 on win98 worked; Opera 6 not.

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[freenet-dev] Tulleled Fproxy insert

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In the stable release build 530,
 the insert code in fproxy is broken
 again when inserting a key via an
 ssl tunnel

http://bespin.homelinux.net:
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In the stable release build 530,
 the insert code in fproxy is broken
 again when inserting a key via an
 ssl tunnel

http://bespin.homelinux.net:
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[freenet-dev] 127.0.0.1 stupid node referenced! :(

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 19.00 31/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Matthew Toseland (toad at amphibian.dyndns.org) wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 12:17:42AM +0100, Anonymous wrote:
>> > I think we need an auto-string-matching-filter with 'localhost' and
>> > startwith '127.' addresses wich ignore that references.
>> What about 192.168. etc? We can block the same IPs that we already check
>> to bypass the bandwidth limiter.
>
>I can envision someone trying to set up a private Freenet for testing.
>If you block non-routable or loopback addresses by default (which
>I agree is a good idea), then there should be a config file setting
>for people to *not* block, so they can set up their private Freenets.

IMHO, this too is a good point (I do a private Freenet long ago ...)
What about block silly addresses always & put in freenet.conf
 a parameter to allow/disallow private addresses (guess the default
 value ) ?

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[freenet-dev] Updating .....

[Marco A. Calamari]

Neverending story ...

I just updated with 
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/snapshots/freenet-0.5.0.3.jar

and see 
Build: 527 (Latest: 528)

so I think "gee, I understood"
and updated with freenet-latest.jar

and see 
Build: 527 (Latest: 528)

So, where is build 528 ??

not in 
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/snapshots/freenet-unstable-latest.jar
I hope

So I think "If only I has read/write permission on snapshot
 directory, I'll know what to do.



Maybe the situation with 

*RCx, 
*prex
*latest
*-yyymmdd
*0.5.x.x
* unstable-mmdd
*.previous,

and the final addition of some custom version became
  too complicate for an average Joe user ?


If Joe is dumb like me for sure !

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[freenet-dev] CPU Eating & other things (bugs?)

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 14.37 31/10/02 +, you wrote:

...

>> Can we get an idea of the status of the donations fund and how much is re=
>quired to keep Matt on among other things? It's very important to me that d=
>evelopment snowballs and doesn't start to crumble.
>Hey, if you care, donate! :). But I have heard recently that we have
>enough for me to do another 2 month stretch.

Ok, I'll donate a little more for you, but only if you begin to
 separate your reply text from quoted one with whitelines ...

;)   Ciao.   Marco


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[freenet-dev] ideas for improving "Earlier dated version" fproxy page

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 11.36 31/10/02 +, you wrote:
>This is on 604, so there's no reason why it should be working perfectly, but
>[1] -  Are there any plans (current or proposal) for localising FProxy?  I
>expect this would increase the massmarket appeal of Freenet significantly
>(we've already had several support calls from non-English speakers
>requesting help and configuration instructions in their own language).
>Localising FProxy would not even be particularly difficult, just a simple
>string table lookup on all strings and external localised dictionary files,
>with presumably the American English dictionary coded into the .jar.  I'd do
>it if I knew Java, but then it's so easy I doubt I'd even need to know Java
>to do it.
>Obviously there's then the issue of providing the translated strings.  No
>biggie, that's what babel.altavista.com is for.

No, human translators; leave babel for porn sites 8)

I volunteer for Italian.

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[freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5.0.3

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 00.41 31/10/02 +, you wrote:
>> Is the "official" version number (i.e. 0.5.0.3) displayed anywhere in the=
> web interface? In the General=20
>> Information, I see:
>>=20
>> Version Information
>> Node Version 0.5
>> Protocol Version 1.46
>> Build Number 527
>> CVS Revision 1.90.2.2
>>=20
>> It would be nice if there was some consistency in how builds/versions wer=
>e named. My freenet node is telling me=20
>> it's version 0.5, even though it is 0.5.0.3 and the build number doesn't =
>increment every time. Should I be going=20
>> by the CVS Revision to know if I have the latest? If so, then announcemen=
>ts maybe should use those numbers since=20
>> the web gateway does display it correctly.
>The build number is the important thing; maybe it should have been
>incremented for 0.5.0.3. Traditionally the build number has only gone up
>when the node behaviour changes, as opposed to the minor fixes that went
>into 0.5.0.3 (anon filter fixes, and a fix for the luser mp3 wipe bug,
>which won't affect existing successfully installed users).

Mattew, I (and not only me) totally disagree with this "traditionally"
 way to release; this not because I have a personal preference, but because
 this cause a *tremendous* waste of time for node operators and all people
 that try to debug their problem with nodes.

"Traditionally" all software release in the world have a way to
 understand which binary is running (other that calculate the md5
 signature) and to know if it is older or newer respect another one.

I understand that include a timestamp in the compiled jar
 maybe is a difficult or less important task, but if this
 is the case, do something like a constant increment of the build
 number or whatewer thing you want to solve this problem for us.

Is funny that the fproxy info section is filled with info that
 seems to allow to know the difference between version, and in fact
 just induce in error who need to know wich binary is running.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5.0.3

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 00.41 31/10/02 +, you wrote:
 Is the official version number (i.e. 0.5.0.3) displayed anywhere in the=
 web interface? In the General=20
 Information, I see:
=20
 Version Information
 Node Version 0.5
 Protocol Version 1.46
 Build Number 527
 CVS Revision 1.90.2.2
=20
 It would be nice if there was some consistency in how builds/versions wer=
e named. My freenet node is telling me=20
 it's version 0.5, even though it is 0.5.0.3 and the build number doesn't =
increment every time. Should I be going=20
 by the CVS Revision to know if I have the latest? If so, then announcemen=
ts maybe should use those numbers since=20
 the web gateway does display it correctly.
The build number is the important thing; maybe it should have been
incremented for 0.5.0.3. Traditionally the build number has only gone up
when the node behaviour changes, as opposed to the minor fixes that went
into 0.5.0.3 (anon filter fixes, and a fix for the luser mp3 wipe bug,
which won't affect existing successfully installed users).

Mattew, I (and not only me) totally disagree with this traditionally
 way to release; this not because I have a personal preference, but because
 this cause a *tremendous* waste of time for node operators and all people
 that try to debug their problem with nodes.

Traditionally all software release in the world have a way to
 understand which binary is running (other that calculate the md5
 signature) and to know if it is older or newer respect another one.

I understand that include a timestamp in the compiled jar
 maybe is a difficult or less important task, but if this
 is the case, do something like a constant increment of the build
 number or whatewer thing you want to solve this problem for us.

Is funny that the fproxy info section is filled with info that
 seems to allow to know the difference between version, and in fact
 just induce in error who need to know wich binary is running.

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Re: [freenet-dev] ideas for improving Earlier dated version fproxy page

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 11.36 31/10/02 +, you wrote:
This is on 604, so there's no reason why it should be working perfectly, but
[1] -  Are there any plans (current or proposal) for localising FProxy?  I
expect this would increase the massmarket appeal of Freenet significantly
(we've already had several support calls from non-English speakers
requesting help and configuration instructions in their own language).
Localising FProxy would not even be particularly difficult, just a simple
string table lookup on all strings and external localised dictionary files,
with presumably the American English dictionary coded into the .jar.  I'd do
it if I knew Java, but then it's so easy I doubt I'd even need to know Java
to do it.
Obviously there's then the issue of providing the translated strings.  No
biggie, that's what babel.altavista.com is for.

No, human translators; leave babel for porn sites 8)

I volunteer for Italian.

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Re: [freenet-dev] CPU Eating other things (bugs?)

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At 14.37 31/10/02 +, you wrote:

...

 Can we get an idea of the status of the donations fund and how much is re=
quired to keep Matt on among other things? It's very important to me that d=
evelopment snowballs and doesn't start to crumble.
Hey, if you care, donate! :). But I have heard recently that we have
enough for me to do another 2 month stretch.

Ok, I'll donate a little more for you, but only if you begin to
 separate your reply text from quoted one with whitelines ...

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[freenet-dev] Updating .....

[Marco A. Calamari]

Neverending story ...

I just updated with 
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/snapshots/freenet-0.5.0.3.jar

and see 
Build: 527 (Latest: 528)

so I think gee, I understood
and updated with freenet-latest.jar

and see 
Build: 527 (Latest: 528)

So, where is build 528 ??

not in 
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/snapshots/freenet-unstable-latest.jar
I hope

So I think If only I has read/write permission on snapshot
 directory, I'll know what to do.

serious mode

Maybe the situation with 

*RCx, 
*prex
*latest
*-yyymmdd
*0.5.x.x
* unstable-mmdd
*.previous,

and the final addition of some custom version became
  too complicate for an average Joe user ?
/serious mode

If Joe is dumb like me for sure !

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[freenet-dev] Three different "stable" 527 in 8 hours ?

[Marco A. Calamari]

We found not two but three different version of build stable 527
 released in a short period of time.

Don't fear bad press from moron windows users, but fear:

1) bad press from developers
2) physical aggression from angry node operators ;)

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[freenet-dev] Um...

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 22.46 29/10/02 +, you wrote:

>Stupid bug went into 0.5.0.2 that prevented all routing. Sorry. It's
>gone now, anyone who updated to 0.5.0.2 before (a bit before) now=20
>(10:45 UTC on 29th October), needs to reupdate.

8(

Mattew, I understand that is difficult to admit the need of
 re-update to a 0.5.0.3 few minutes after the 0.5.0.2,
 but I cannot justify this mess of releases.

It is *unacceptable* to have different production releases with
 the same release number. Please, when the pressure will lower,
 reconsider entirely the approach that the project has in
 managing the releases.

If this frantic approach to software releases is a need for
 our project, *please*  at least insert something in the 
 version information section of freenet general information
 (if you doesn't have a better idea the gmt time & date of build)
 but please *please* consider that freenet is a much larger
 world that the sum of his developers.

We definitely need a way to know for sure which code a node
 is running, without the need of remember the exact time 
 a person update 4 nodes.

Due to the fact that this mail is a critic, I want
 to confirm you my greater appreciation for you and
 your work for the Project

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Re: [freenet-dev] Um...

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 22.46 29/10/02 +, you wrote:

Stupid bug went into 0.5.0.2 that prevented all routing. Sorry. It's
gone now, anyone who updated to 0.5.0.2 before (a bit before) now=20
(10:45 UTC on 29th October), needs to reupdate.

8(

Mattew, I understand that is difficult to admit the need of
 re-update to a 0.5.0.3 few minutes after the 0.5.0.2,
 but I cannot justify this mess of releases.

It is *unacceptable* to have different production releases with
 the same release number. Please, when the pressure will lower,
 reconsider entirely the approach that the project has in
 managing the releases.

If this frantic approach to software releases is a need for
 our project, *please*  at least insert something in the 
 version information section of freenet general information
 (if you doesn't have a better idea the gmt time  date of build)
 but please *please* consider that freenet is a much larger
 world that the sum of his developers.

We definitely need a way to know for sure which code a node
 is running, without the need of remember the exact time 
 a person update 4 nodes.

Due to the fact that this mail is a critic, I want
 to confirm you my greater appreciation for you and
 your work for the Project

Many thanks.  Ciao.   Marco


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[freenet-dev] Three different stable 527 in 8 hours ?

[Marco A. Calamari]

We found not two but three different version of build stable 527
 released in a short period of time.

Don't fear bad press from moron windows users, but fear:

1) bad press from developers
2) physical aggression from angry node operators ;)

Ciao.   Marco

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[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] 0.5.0.1 half-released

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 07.01 29/10/02 -0500, you wrote:

>> Currently rel-0-5-1 has it
>[...]
>
>A word of warning to people who may try this: port 8889 is GONE.  The
>node status stuff has been merged into port .

What about distribution port ?

Better, what about distribution service ???

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy regression & snapshot cleaning

[Marco A. Calamari]

The stable build 526 0.5.0.1 had a regression
 in new build checking; now the stable build
 consider the unstable 603 as new build.

In addition, there are a little mess in the snapshot
 directory; for a would be node operator is very
 confusing.

I suggest a major cleaning of old files, moving all
 old/specialized files in a subdir, move unstable old
 build in another subdir, move old stable in another one
 & leave only latest unstable & latest
 stable in the snapshot dir.

It would be possible name the unstable releases
 not by date but by build number ?

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy keytype default

[Marco A. Calamari]

This suggestion is a trivial thing to implement, but
 would do no harm if wrong, and can help to reshape the load
 if correct.

I remember to heard some concern about this weeks ago,
 but .

If the user type something in the retrieve field, Fproxy
 by default assume freenet: & KSK key, if no protocol
 or keytype is specified.

This is useful for well behaving users that know Freenet
 & need a KSK, but IMHO is devastating when a wave of newbie
 use this field as search engine; speaking with a couple
 of them, I heard that both try to do that the first time
 they fired up their nodes.

I think that a part of the overload was due to nodes asking
 for non existent KSK.

I don't think that a warning message on the fproxy page
 would be useful; I simply suggest to remove the KSK
 default, mandating the input of keytype & maybe also
 freenet:; an error message with some explaination
 after a typeless input, with some clues about Freenet
 not being a search engine, would solve IMHO this
 problem.

JM2C... Ciao.   Marc

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy keytype default

[Marco A. Calamari]

This suggestion is a trivial thing to implement, but
 would do no harm if wrong, and can help to reshape the load
 if correct.

I remember to heard some concern about this weeks ago,
 but .

If the user type something in the retrieve field, Fproxy
 by default assume freenet:  KSK key, if no protocol
 or keytype is specified.

This is useful for well behaving users that know Freenet
  need a KSK, but IMHO is devastating when a wave of newbie
 use this field as search engine; speaking with a couple
 of them, I heard that both try to do that the first time
 they fired up their nodes.

I think that a part of the overload was due to nodes asking
 for non existent KSK.

I don't think that a warning message on the fproxy page
 would be useful; I simply suggest to remove the KSK
 default, mandating the input of keytype  maybe also
 freenet:; an error message with some explaination
 after a typeless input, with some clues about Freenet
 not being a search engine, would solve IMHO this
 problem.

JM2C... Ciao.   Marc

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy regression snapshot cleaning

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The stable build 526 0.5.0.1 had a regression
 in new build checking; now the stable build
 consider the unstable 603 as new build.

In addition, there are a little mess in the snapshot
 directory; for a would be node operator is very
 confusing.

I suggest a major cleaning of old files, moving all
 old/specialized files in a subdir, move unstable old
 build in another subdir, move old stable in another one
  leave only latest unstable  latest
 stable in the snapshot dir.

It would be possible name the unstable releases
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[freenet-dev] is it just me?

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>On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 02:56:49AM +1100, fish wrote:
>> or is there RNF's everywhere right now?
>> it's making it really hard to insert arg.

>This is why I added the desperation code. It's why I tried to delay the
>release to put out a mandatory RC2. But it will go away by itself as
>people upgrade to 0.5, and more nodes come online.
>> (congrats to the developers for shipping something, btw :)

It is the same on my nodes; can you explain/point me what
 is the "desperation code" and if can be used in this situation ?
 (I flushed some dev messages due to shortage in time)

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Re: [freenet-dev] is it just me?

[Marco A. Calamari]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 02:56:49AM +1100, fish wrote:
 or is there RNF's everywhere right now?
 it's making it really hard to insert arg.

This is why I added the desperation code. It's why I tried to delay the
release to put out a mandatory RC2. But it will go away by itself as
people upgrade to 0.5, and more nodes come online.
 (congrats to the developers for shipping something, btw :)

It is the same on my nodes; can you explain/point me what
 is the desperation code and if can be used in this situation ?
 (I flushed some dev messages due to shortage in time)

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e: [freenet-dev] What's going on with fproxy?

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 01.12 26/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
>>New developer, aka Spark^ on #freenet. He asked for something to do so
>>we told him to split fproxy insert out from fproxy.
>
>To what end?
>I know there was some murmuring about getting rid of insert capability from 
>the gateway page (which was realized briefly). I would register a very strong 
>vote against that and prefer the opposite as a matter of fact by including 
>some DBR inserting facility.

I strongly support an extension of fproxy insert function.

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Re: e: [freenet-dev] What's going on with fproxy?

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 01.12 26/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
New developer, aka Spark^ on #freenet. He asked for something to do so
we told him to split fproxy insert out from fproxy.

To what end?
I know there was some murmuring about getting rid of insert capability from the 
gateway page (which was realized briefly). I would register a very strong vote 
against that and prefer the opposite as a matter of fact by including some DBR 
inserting facility.

I strongly support an extension of fproxy insert function.

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[freenet-dev] Sanity check

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At 14.48 24/10/02 +0100, you wrote:

>On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:23:00AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> Ok, it is possible that during the next few days we will be faced with=20
>> some difficult decisions.
>> The ideal situation is that no important bugs are discovered between now=
>> and Monday.
>> If such important bugs are discovered, we will need to make a decision=20
>> as to how much testing they require if they are to be included in the=20
>> 0.5 release.
>Yes, for example, kaffe incompatibility...

You are telepathic ? Yes, for sure !

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Re: [freenet-dev] Sanity check

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At 14.48 24/10/02 +0100, you wrote:

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:23:00AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
 Ok, it is possible that during the next few days we will be faced with=20
 some difficult decisions.
 The ideal situation is that no important bugs are discovered between now=
 and Monday.
 If such important bugs are discovered, we will need to make a decision=20
 as to how much testing they require if they are to be included in the=20
 0.5 release.
Yes, for example, kaffe incompatibility...

You are telepathic ? Yes, for sure !

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[freenet-dev] Fwd: [freenet-support] 0.5 feature request

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At 17.38 22/10/02 -0700, you wrote:

>This is the kind of cosmetic enhancement which we might wish to do before=
>=20
>the freeze tomorrow if anyone is interested in tackling it.
>
>Please don't commit anything until you know it works though.

IMHO, it would be useful if the installation & upgrade 
 processes leave some clear trace; a couple of point
 where this would be useful are.

- the detailed Fred version number in the fred log at boot
- the freenet.ini/freenet.conf can have the generation
   date & the installer version number written in it
- if I understand the process, the binaries installed in
 the windows version doesn't change during the update,
 so the fclient & config version number must be showed
 somewhere, maybe in the first tab of the config windows

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Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: [freenet-support] 0.5 feature request

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 17.38 22/10/02 -0700, you wrote:

This is the kind of cosmetic enhancement which we might wish to do before=
=20
the freeze tomorrow if anyone is interested in tackling it.

Please don't commit anything until you know it works though.

IMHO, it would be useful if the installation  upgrade 
 processes leave some clear trace; a couple of point
 where this would be useful are.

- the detailed Fred version number in the fred log at boot
- the freenet.ini/freenet.conf can have the generation
   date  the installer version number written in it
- if I understand the process, the binaries installed in
 the windows version doesn't change during the update,
 so the fclient  config version number must be showed
 somewhere, maybe in the first tab of the config windows

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[freenet-dev] Re: yet another another new windows installer

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At 21.21 21/10/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Is there anything else I should have on my todo list for the windows
>installer?
>- make it so that nodeconf can change every option
>- have nodeconf just edit the config in place (effectively, have it treat
>%'s and not have to be manually rewritten)
>- build in search for fproxy.* and nodeinfo.* so that we can save those
>options if any [won't build in msvc6]
>- fix import/export ref on bunny
>- popup window when # of threads is changed to equal 0
>- make windows installer using windows installer.
>- have pathfind buttons on nodeconfig/normal work
>- fix weird 8812 bug only I seem to manifest
>- get rid of fproxy and maininfo checkboxes
>- change text for mainport.class on fproxy screen (split mainport into it's
>own page with perhaps nodeinfo on the same page)

Maybe a check for the fec & temp dir creation; the yesterday
 version did'n create the fec dir on my win98se.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: yet another another new windows installer

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 21.21 21/10/02 -0400, you wrote:

Is there anything else I should have on my todo list for the windows
installer?
- make it so that nodeconf can change every option
- have nodeconf just edit the config in place (effectively, have it treat
%'s and not have to be manually rewritten)
- build in search for fproxy.* and nodeinfo.* so that we can save those
options if any [won't build in msvc6]
- fix import/export ref on bunny
- popup window when # of threads is changed to equal 0
- make windows installer using windows installer.
- have pathfind buttons on nodeconfig/normal work
- fix weird 8812 bug only I seem to manifest
- get rid of fproxy and maininfo checkboxes
- change text for mainport.class on fproxy screen (split mainport into it's
own page with perhaps nodeinfo on the same page)

Maybe a check for the fec  temp dir creation; the yesterday
 version did'n create the fec dir on my win98se.

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[freenet-dev] 0.5 release - Wednesday

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 10.49 21/10/02 -0700, you wrote:

>On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:04:59AM +0200, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
>> Consider this; when all agree that the objective is to release
>>  Freenet to the general public, you seriously said that a
>>  well-behaving windows installer was unimportant for the relase.
>
>No, I said that the Windows installer shouldn't delay the release, and=20
>that it would be absolutely ridiculous if it did

It is exactly what I undestood; in your opinion is ridicolous wait
 for the wininstaller, in my opinion is ridicolous announce 0.5
 without it to anticipate the release few days.

It is a matter of end users consideration, as one years ago for
 the 0.3 drop.

Anyway, this problem now is history, the installer works great
 and we all need to plan for the future, not discuss the past.

I'm waiting for wednesday !

>> When trying to have a general agreement on the (revolutionary)
>>  fact to have a release date for Freenet, you seriusly decided for an
>>  overall scheduling of 5 days for the whole thing.
>
>No, actually I pointed out the need for a release date, and - having
>checked with Matthew Toseland first, suggested Wednesday.  Since then,=20
>Oskar and Matthew discovered some significant bugs which had to be=20
>fixed, so we agreed on next Monday instead.
>
>Please don't be so presumptuously critical when you don't know all the
>facts.

For sure I'm critical, but I don't think to be presumptuous; I have
 access to maillist & freesites, and obviously those are all the info
 on which I can base my understanding.

Five days to a release are IMVVVHO, a really, really too short timeframe
 for the release of any code, not only for a complex one like Freenet.

In a cooperative environment like our, driving changing
 direction with sharp turns is by far not the best option.

I can understand and approve the need for a quick release, 
 non for a as-quick-as-we-can one. Few days more after
 one and half year of waiting are unimportant; the risk of
 miss the general public releasing a code that 90% of people
 cannot use is by far worst.  

Borrowing from Lucas, "Don't underestimate the power of
 a big user base"

I speak for myself, but there is no intention to discuss
 your leadership, just the correctness of some practical
 decision, that can be wrong as happen to all us.

Here in Italy we say something that translated sound like
 "The path that goes to hell is made of good intentions"

Don't be so nervous.  We all works together.

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[freenet-dev] Windows installer

[Marco A. Calamari]

Today, first time since months, my weekly
 attempt to blind-install a transient freenet node
 on my win98se natted pc was succesfully
 (and incredibly non-intrusive & smooth).

This is a normal situiation for general public.

I'll try on newer win edition asap.

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[freenet-dev] 0.5 release - Wednesday

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 15.24 20/10/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Not to disparage your rhetorical abilities, but trust me, arguing in
>favor of delaying a release before an audience of developers is like
>arguing in favor of free bananas before an audience of monkeys.
>
>Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of playing to the peanut gallery
>all the time as you do, somebody has to make the unpopular decisions.

Ian, now that the discussion arrived to be a meta-discussion, consider that
 people that think that "someone has to make the unpopular decisions"
 with his best intentions often make the wrong ones.

Consider this; when all agree that the objective is to release
 Freenet to the general public, you seriously said that a
 well-behaving windows installer was unimportant for the relase.

When trying to have a general agreement on the (revolutionary)
 fact to have a release date for Freenet, you seriusly decided for an
 overall scheduling of 5 days for the whole thing.


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Re: [freenet-dev] 0.5 release - Wednesday

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 10.49 21/10/02 -0700, you wrote:

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:04:59AM +0200, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
 Consider this; when all agree that the objective is to release
  Freenet to the general public, you seriously said that a
  well-behaving windows installer was unimportant for the relase.

No, I said that the Windows installer shouldn't delay the release, and=20
that it would be absolutely ridiculous if it did

It is exactly what I undestood; in your opinion is ridicolous wait
 for the wininstaller, in my opinion is ridicolous announce 0.5
 without it to anticipate the release few days.

It is a matter of end users consideration, as one years ago for
 the 0.3 drop.

Anyway, this problem now is history, the installer works great
 and we all need to plan for the future, not discuss the past.

I'm waiting for wednesday !

 When trying to have a general agreement on the (revolutionary)
  fact to have a release date for Freenet, you seriusly decided for an
  overall scheduling of 5 days for the whole thing.

No, actually I pointed out the need for a release date, and - having
checked with Matthew Toseland first, suggested Wednesday.  Since then,=20
Oskar and Matthew discovered some significant bugs which had to be=20
fixed, so we agreed on next Monday instead.

Please don't be so presumptuously critical when you don't know all the
facts.

For sure I'm critical, but I don't think to be presumptuous; I have
 access to maillist  freesites, and obviously those are all the info
 on which I can base my understanding.

Five days to a release are IMVVVHO, a really, really too short timeframe
 for the release of any code, not only for a complex one like Freenet.

In a cooperative environment like our, driving changing
 direction with sharp turns is by far not the best option.

I can understand and approve the need for a quick release, 
 non for a as-quick-as-we-can one. Few days more after
 one and half year of waiting are unimportant; the risk of
 miss the general public releasing a code that 90% of people
 cannot use is by far worst.  

Borrowing from Lucas, Don't underestimate the power of
 a big user base

I speak for myself, but there is no intention to discuss
 your leadership, just the correctness of some practical
 decision, that can be wrong as happen to all us.

Here in Italy we say something that translated sound like
 The path that goes to hell is made of good intentions

Don't be so nervous.  We all works together.

Have a good day.   Marco


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[freenet-dev] Windows installer

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Today, first time since months, my weekly
 attempt to blind-install a transient freenet node
 on my win98se natted pc was succesfully
 (and incredibly non-intrusive  smooth).

This is a normal situiation for general public.

I'll try on newer win edition asap.

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy usage via SSL

[Marco A. Calamari]

Using 518, is now possible insert  retrieve both
 normal  FEC keys via (http:)

Using an SSL tunnel (https:443) the retrieve
 work but the insert, both FEC  non-FEC.

Try yourself (yes, the tunnel is good)

https://bespin.homelinux.net:443/

http://bespin.homelinux.net:/

0.5 cannot have this kind of problems!

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Re: [freenet-dev] Fproxy usage via SSL

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At 16.12 17/10/02 +0100, you wrote:



On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 04:25:48PM +0200, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
=20
 Using 518, is now possible insert  retrieve both
  normal  FEC keys via (http:)
=20
 Using an SSL tunnel (https:443) the retrieve
  work but the insert, both FEC  non-FEC.
=20
 Try yourself (yes, the tunnel is good)
=20
 https://bespin.homelinux.net:443/
=20
Works for me :)

You're right 8)

I'm sorry for the noise I created; the only explaination
 that I can imagine is I used another (older) node by mistake
 (I manage 3 of them).

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy usage via SSL

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 16.12 17/10/02 +0100, you wrote:



>On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 04:25:48PM +0200, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
>>=20
>> Using 518, is now possible insert & retrieve both
>>  normal & FEC keys via (http:)
>>=20
>> Using an SSL tunnel (https:443) the retrieve
>>  work but the insert, both FEC & non-FEC.
>>=20
>> Try yourself (yes, the tunnel is good)
>>=20
>> https://bespin.homelinux.net:443/
>>=20
>Works for me :)

You're right 8)

I'm sorry for the noise I created; the only explaination
 that I can imagine is I used another (older) node by mistake
 (I manage 3 of them).

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy usage via SSL

[Marco A. Calamari]

Using 518, is now possible insert & retrieve both
 normal & FEC keys via (http:)

Using an SSL tunnel (https:443) the retrieve
 work but the insert, both FEC & non-FEC.

Try yourself (yes, the tunnel is good)

https://bespin.homelinux.net:443/

http://bespin.homelinux.net:/

0.5 cannot have this kind of problems!

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[freenet-dev] FEC works fine for me

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 19.57 14/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
>On Monday 14 October 2002 15:37, Marco wrote:
>
>> With several node (513 & 515) when trying to recover a FEC
>>  key, I always have one of this two error

...

>> There is trouble on the FEC decoder ?
>
>Try this test:
>0) Insert a > 1MB file into your local node from the fproxy web interface at 
>at htl 0.

Insert Status
Inserting a split file can consume a lot of resources.  Use the link
below if you want to stop the insert cleanly. 
Cancel Insert  

Inserting SplitFile: ginotalibano

Processing segment 1 of 1.
Creating 4 262144 byte check blocks.
Be patient. This can take a long time...
UNEXPECTED EXCEPTION: java.io.FileNotFoundException: /tmpbffile_1 (Permission 
denied)
java.io.FileNotFoundException: /tmpbffile_1 (Permission denied)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:176)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:102)
at freenet.support.FileBucket.getOutputStream(FileBucket.java:42)
at FECUtils.makeBuckets(FECUtils.java:243)
at OnionFECEncoder.encode(OnionFECEncoder.java:92)
at freenet.client.FECTools.encodeSegment(FECTools.java:221)
at 
freenet.client.http.InsertContext.insertSplitFileSegment(InsertContext.java:403)
at 
freenet.client.http.InsertContext.insertSplitFileBlocks(InsertContext.java:443)
at freenet.client.http.InsertContext.run(InsertContext.java:604)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536)

 Insert Failed. 

 and, yes, /tmp *is* world writable & empty 


>1) Request it from your local node.  

Not work, fproxy returns immediatly the normal screen
 if I use a tunneled node.

It is my opinion (is not related to this FEC problem) that
 fproxy is *more broken than ever*.

try this:

http://bespin.homelinux.net:443  tunneled mainport
http://bespin.homelinux.net:444  tunneled nodestatus
http://bespin.homelinux.net: not tunneled mainport

I am able to insert only using , 443 returns immediatly a windows
 "server closed connection"

>Here's my best guess.
>
>I think what is probably happening is that you are requesting a FEC split 
>file that was encoded with an obsolete encoder, fproxy can't get a decoder so 
>treats it as a non-redundant split-file, and hits a bug somewhere in the 
>non-redundant downloading codepath.
>
>I'll look into this.  If there's a bug I'll clean it up.
>
>But the real solution is to get content authors to insert files using the new 
>FEC code.  fproxy is using the new code so any FEC files inserted via fproxy 
>should be retrievable by fproxy.  fish's FCP based command line tools should 
>be using the new encoders too, though I haven't looked at them lately. 

I attach my config file, just in case.

I'm using fcptools from snapshot dir to inser; there is a better suited
 tool for FEC insert ?

Are the FEC related lines of my config correct ?

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[freenet-dev] Making build 514 mandatory

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 14.42 15/10/02 +0100, you wrote:

>Here's the problem:
>* builds prior to about 507 all use the monolithic datastore. This is very
>  bad for routing.

Why the datastore model is bad for routing 

>* builds 507ish to 513ish have various bugs with the native datastore
>  which cause problems on insert
>* ALL builds prior to 514 have one particular insert-affecting bug
>* We can't increase lastGoodBuild AFTER we have released 0.5 without
>  major problems

In fact this last is the real point. I agree.

FWIW.  Marco


>We cannot block a build only for insertion, because we want inserts and
>requests to end up in the same place. So IMHO the correct solution is to
>increase lastGoodBuild to 514. This may cause some short-term
>disruption, but it should also prevent these bugs from causing network
>problems, and we can't do it later without much greater trouble.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Making build 514 mandatory

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 14.42 15/10/02 +0100, you wrote:

Here's the problem:
* builds prior to about 507 all use the monolithic datastore. This is very
  bad for routing.

Why the datastore model is bad for routing 

* builds 507ish to 513ish have various bugs with the native datastore
  which cause problems on insert
* ALL builds prior to 514 have one particular insert-affecting bug
* We can't increase lastGoodBuild AFTER we have released 0.5 without
  major problems

In fact this last is the real point. I agree.

FWIW.  Marco


We cannot block a build only for insertion, because we want inserts and
requests to end up in the same place. So IMHO the correct solution is to
increase lastGoodBuild to 514. This may cause some short-term
disruption, but it should also prevent these bugs from causing network
problems, and we can't do it later without much greater trouble.

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Re: [freenet-dev] FEC works fine for me

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 19.57 14/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
On Monday 14 October 2002 15:37, Marco wrote:

 With several node (513  515) when trying to recover a FEC
  key, I always have one of this two error

...

 There is trouble on the FEC decoder ?

Try this test:
0) Insert a  1MB file into your local node from the fproxy web interface at 
at htl 0.

Insert Status
Inserting a split file can consume a lot of resources.  Use the link
below if you want to stop the insert cleanly. p
pa href=/__INTERNAL__00/8709853646532201078/cancel/Cancel Insert/a /p 

Inserting SplitFile: ginotalibano

Processing segment 1 of 1.
Creating 4 262144 byte check blocks.
Be patient. This can take a long time...
UNEXPECTED EXCEPTION: java.io.FileNotFoundException: /tmpbffile_1 (Permission denied)
java.io.FileNotFoundException: /tmpbffile_1 (Permission denied)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.init(FileOutputStream.java:176)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.init(FileOutputStream.java:102)
at freenet.support.FileBucket.getOutputStream(FileBucket.java:42)
at FECUtils.makeBuckets(FECUtils.java:243)
at OnionFECEncoder.encode(OnionFECEncoder.java:92)
at freenet.client.FECTools.encodeSegment(FECTools.java:221)
at 
freenet.client.http.InsertContext.insertSplitFileSegment(InsertContext.java:403)
at 
freenet.client.http.InsertContext.insertSplitFileBlocks(InsertContext.java:443)
at freenet.client.http.InsertContext.run(InsertContext.java:604)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536)

h1 Insert Failed. /h1

 and, yes, /tmp *is* world writable  empty 


1) Request it from your local node.  

Not work, fproxy returns immediatly the normal screen
 if I use a tunneled node.

It is my opinion (is not related to this FEC problem) that
 fproxy is *more broken than ever*.

try this:

http://bespin.homelinux.net:443  tunneled mainport
http://bespin.homelinux.net:444  tunneled nodestatus
http://bespin.homelinux.net: not tunneled mainport

I am able to insert only using , 443 returns immediatly a windows
 server closed connection

Here's my best guess.

I think what is probably happening is that you are requesting a FEC split 
file that was encoded with an obsolete encoder, fproxy can't get a decoder so 
treats it as a non-redundant split-file, and hits a bug somewhere in the 
non-redundant downloading codepath.

I'll look into this.  If there's a bug I'll clean it up.

But the real solution is to get content authors to insert files using the new 
FEC code.  fproxy is using the new code so any FEC files inserted via fproxy 
should be retrievable by fproxy.  fish's FCP based command line tools should 
be using the new encoders too, though I haven't looked at them lately. 

I attach my config file, just in case.

I'm using fcptools from snapshot dir to inser; there is a better suited
 tool for FEC insert ?

Are the FEC related lines of my config correct ?

Ciao.   Marco


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freenet.conf
Description: Binary data

[freenet-dev] Fec in trouble ?

[Marco A. Calamari]

With several node (513 & 515) when trying to recover a FEC
 key, I always have one of this two error

 first type
when pressing start, in few second this message arrive
 on upper half screen

Error sending data to browser: java.lang.NullPointerException

and this on lower half
Download failed. Couldn't download enough blocks to reconstruct segment: 0.
required: 0
downloaded: 0


 second type
transfert start with the right number of thread, idle
 time increment, no single block failed or recovered

Obviously all nodes works to insert & retrieve normal
 keys.

There is trouble on the FEC decoder ?

THX.   Marco


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