On 4/7/2017 8:14 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense it.
Thank you, Symantec!
While it's still easy to find, for future reference:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14060846
https://www.red
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Congratulations, and thank you Symantec :-)
Bastiaan.
On 4/9/2017 12:05 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
As a compiler-writer no-nothing, does this have any implications on the various
back-ends gaining ideas/code from each other? That is, is it possible we see LDC
compile times go down, or DMD optimizations get better?
You can't change the license
On 4/7/17 11:14 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense
it. Thank you, Symantec!
Awesome news!
As a compiler-writer no-nothing, does this have any implications on the
various back-ends gaining ide
On 4/8/2017 10:18 PM, jollie wrote:
Will this change in licensing pave the way for the conversion of
the backend to from c++ to d?
That was going to happen anyway, but it makes it more worthwhile.
On 4/8/2017 4:24 PM, Jethro wrote:
Does this mean that we can now embed the D compiler in to a commercial D app to
be used as a scripting like engine(D app compiles D code then dynamically links
in code while running)?
Yes.
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Does this mean that we can now embed the D compiler in to a
commercial D app to be used as a s
On 4/8/2017 12:07 PM, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
May be we can talk about pr strategy for D in general at Dconf.
I expect that how to best take advantage of this development will be a hot topic
at DConf.
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Good news! Thank you!
I gave a hint of this - additionally mentioning Dconf - to
heise.de, wi
On 4/8/2017 10:16 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
To make sure you have your history correct. GDC wrote the work-alike
x86 assembler, and later dual-licensed it to share with LDC. A little
while later I dropped it from GDC as it was not really fit for
purpose, and rather outsi
On 8 April 2017 at 18:48, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> On 4/8/2017 1:36 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>>
>> On 7 April 2017 at 23:49, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Note that this also resolves the long-standing legal issue with
On 4/8/2017 1:33 AM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
AFAIK, Symantec were under no particular obligation here, but none-the-less
chose the consumer/developer-friendly route, and I for one couldn't be more
appreciative. I'm one who can be very critical of, well, everything, but the
fine folks at
On 4/8/2017 1:36 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On 7 April 2017 at 23:49, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
Note that this also resolves the long-standing legal issue with D's inline
assembler being backend licensed, and so not portable to gdc/ldc.
That makes
On 4/8/2017 1:19 AM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
Anyone "in the know" have a any "inside scoop" regarding the such organization's
perspective on the "zlib/libpng" license? I tend to favor it for my own OSS
projects, since it's (in my perspective) at least as liberal as Boost, but very,
very
On 2017-04-07 17:14, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense
it. Thank you, Symantec!
This is some amazing news!! :)
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 7 April 2017 at 23:49, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> Note that this also resolves the long-standing legal issue with D's inline
> assembler being backend licensed, and so not portable to gdc/ldc.
>
That makes the assumption that license was the reason why it's not included.
On 04/07/2017 11:14 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense
it. Thank you, Symantec!
Wow! This is HUGE news for D, and may I say, I think some *major*
respect (and "props, j00!") are *well-deserved
On 04/07/2017 05:44 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
2. It's on all of the "Accepted OSS Licenses" lists that major corps have
because of Boost itself being used in those companies. If your license
isn't on
the list, your project isn't being used.
Yup. We figured every corporation that uses C++ has a
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Excellent, good work.
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 22:57:39 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know that. I just
assumed LDC would have gone with a clang-style inline assembler
(does clang even have inline asm?).
LDC supports both DMD-style asm {} blocks as well as LLVM's
native inline
Now #1 on r/programming subreddit!
Jack Stouffer wrote:
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense
it. Thank you, Symantec!
Something that just popped into my head:
You've said that you've avoide
On 4/7/2017 3:57 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote:
You've said that you've avoided ever looking at other compiler's code to avoid
legal trouble. Is that problem gone now?
No, unless the other compiler is Boost as well.
On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 10:38:36PM +0100, rikki cattermole via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On 07/04/2017 10:03 PM, WhatMeWorry wrote:
[...]
> > I've been coding in D for years now but was unaware of this issue.
> > Could someone give this licensing neophyte an explanation and some
> > history?
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Something that just popped into my head:
You've said that you've avoided ever looking at other
On 4/7/2017 3:22 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
Just to clarify for people not usually frequenting these circles: LDC does
support DMD-style inline assembly, but we use a different implementation.
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know that. I just assumed LDC would have
gone with a clang-st
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 22:02:31 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
I'll defer to Martin Nowak on what to do about that.
It would help for those who need this for specific versions to
let Martin know which ones.
Great, thanks -- I'll follow up with Martin on slack.
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Congrats! That's a big win, and you deserve all the merits!
Enjoy the moment!
---
Paolo
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 21:49:22 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Note that this also resolves the long-standing legal issue with
D's inline assembler being backend licensed, and so not
portable to gdc/ldc.
Just to clarify for people not usually frequenting these circles:
LDC does support DMD-sty
On 4/7/2017 2:54 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
My question should have been more specific: will we see the patch changing the
license in the source code applied to existing stable release branches?
I'd really appreciate it if we could get such a patch applied at least to the
current stable
Walter Bright wrote:
Note that this also resolves the long-standing legal issue with D's
inline assembler being backend licensed, and so not portable to gdc/ldc.
yay!
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:35:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
It applies to all of it!
Cool :-)
My question should have been more specific: will we see the patch
changing the license in the source code applied to existing
stable release branches?
I'd really appreciate it if we could get su
On 4/7/2017 1:28 PM, Ulrich Küttler wrote:
With all those forks of dmd now well underway, can I please reserve the name
'dork'? ;)
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
(Hey, I'm feeling pretty good today!)
On 4/7/2017 12:02 PM, Radu wrote:
Also, big up for the whole community as there is a big positive vibe around the
news and nobody is complaining about basic stuff missing line website, docs,
infrastructure etc.
Yes, it's the most positive response to us I've ever seen on HN, by far.
Note that this also resolves the long-standing legal issue with D's inline
assembler being backend licensed, and so not portable to gdc/ldc.
On 4/7/2017 2:04 PM, Jesse Phillips wrote:
MIT almost equal though.
I suspect that the reason MIT came up with their own license is so they could
call it the "MIT License". Branding, ya know.
On 4/7/2017 1:02 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote:
AFAIK the reasons it was chosen were
1. It's as close to public domain as you can get in international law
Yes.
2. It's on all of the "Accepted OSS Licenses" lists that major corps have
because of Boost itself being used in those companies. If your l
On 07/04/2017 4:14 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense
it. Thank you, Symantec!
Hip hip hooray!
I'm gonna go get some cake in a cup!
On 07/04/2017 10:03 PM, WhatMeWorry wrote:
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
I've been coding in D for years now but was unaware
Am Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:14:40 -0700
schrieb Walter Bright :
> https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
>
> Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
> relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Great news! Maybe someone could notify http://phoronix.com . They've
blogged about D before an
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 19:37:14 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, April 07, 2017 08:14:40 Walter Bright via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Well, th
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
I've been coding in D for years now but was unaware of this
issue. Could someone give this lic
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
This is brilliant! Fantastic!
With all those forks of dmd now well underway, can I please
res
On Friday, April 07, 2017 20:02:52 Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 19:37:14 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> > From what I've seen, the fact that we use it so heavily in the
> > D community is abnormal
>
> AFAIK the reasons it was chosen were
>
> 1. It's
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Very good news and a solid accomplishment for being on top of
Hacker News (as of writing this)
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 19:37:14 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
From what I've seen, the fact that we use it so heavily in the
D community is abnormal
AFAIK the reasons it was chosen were
1. It's as close to public domain as you can get in international
law
2. It's on all of the "Accepted OS
On Friday, April 07, 2017 08:14:40 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
>
> Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense
> it. Thank you, Symantec!
Well, this is certainly great news.
Does this make dmd the only compi
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
That is really good news!
One less shackle preventing users from adopting :D (and if I am
not
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Glorious day for D and Dlangers.
Congrats Walter for the tenacity and thanks Symantec for comi
On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 08:14:40AM -0700, Walter Bright via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
>
> Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
> relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Hooray!! Finally!!!
Never thought I'd see this day, but
Wow, congratulations, and a big thank you to those who made it
happen.
On Fri, 2017-04-07 at 18:51 +0100, Russel Winder wrote:
> […]
> So now the campaign begins to get DMD formally packaged by Debian and
> Fedora.
>
> Having DMD packaged as well as LDC and GDC will be a great thing for
> marketing of D.
We also need GDC in Fedora.
--
Russel.
=
On Fri, 2017-04-07 at 08:14 -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-
announce wrote:
> https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
>
> Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
> relicense it.
> Thank you, Symantec!
So now the campaign begins to get DMD formally packaged by Debian
On 4/7/2017 9:10 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 04/07/2017 12:01 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote:
Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6419py/the_official_d_compiler_is_now_free_as_in_freedom/
Thanks, someone also put it on hackernews - found it by browsing for "new"
threads. -- An
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
That was nice of Symantec to finally grant your request. Will
this mean more work put into th
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
<3
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Congrats, this is a great result!
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Great news! By 2027, we should no longer hear objections to D
based on the backend license.
On 4/7/2017 9:15 AM, Basile B. wrote:
Does this apply from now or can the previous DMD releases also be considered as
100% Boost licensed ?
All of it!
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Good news. Question:
Does this apply from now or can the previous DMD releases also be
consid
Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to relicense
it. Thank you, Symantec!
i don't even know what to say... thank you! i didn't even hoped that this
will happen. what a glorious day today.
On 04/07/2017 12:01 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote:
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comme
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6419py/the_official_d_compiler_is_now_fr
On 4/7/2017 8:25 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
Question: will this 'fix' be backported to existing stable releases? Or will it
just apply going forward?
I ask because it could make a difference to what is legally possible to package
for e.g. Linux distros, etc.
It applies to all of it!
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Question: will this 'fix' be backported to existing stable
releases? Or will it just apply go
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
A great step forward for the language!
A huge thank you to everyone who made this happen.
On Friday, 7 April 2017 at 15:14:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/6680
Yes, this is for real! Symantec has given their permission to
relicense it. Thank you, Symantec!
Congratulations Walter! This is marvellous news :-)
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