Re: [board-discuss] Seeking approval for server procurement

Hi Thorsten, * I'm not voting, but want to get this right ... Original-Nachricht Von: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org An: board-discuss@documentfoundation.org TDF has received a generous, targetted donation of $3000 to procure a rack-mountable server,

Re: [board-discuss] Electing a BoD chairperson and it's deputy

Hi, so, the board has elected Florian Effenberger as chairman of the board and Thorsten Behrens as his deputy. we had 6 out of 7 board members voting (making a quorum). Each of the nominees got 5 votes (as Florian and Thorsten abstained to vote on their own seat). To support the

Re: [board-discuss] CommunityBylaws and actual structure and governance of The Document Foundation as a legal entity

Hi Lionel, Original-Nachricht Von: Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu I'm reading the wiki page CommunityBylaws, and I'm confused. It says These Bylaws do not apply to the actual structure and governance of The Document Foundation as a legal entity (...). Yes,

Re: [board-discuss] Pictures and abstracts for members and deputies of the board (and MC)

be welcome. Changes are visible on the staging site. Thanks and regards, André - Ursprüngliche Nachricht - Von: Andre Schnabel Gesendet: 07.11.11 15:22 Uhr An: board-discuss@documentfoundation.org, Bjoern Michaelsen, Fridrich Strba Betreff: Re: [board-discuss] Pictures and abstracts

Re: [board-discuss] [RESULT] New Membership Committee voted by the board

Hi Thorsten, * Datum: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:08:21 +0100 Von: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org the TDF board of directors has now formally approved the following individuals as members of the new Membership committee: * Andre Schnabel * Fridrich Strba * Norbert

[steering-discuss] Reminder to come to a decision (was: Preparing elections for the membership committee)

Dear board members, this is a friendly reminder that we need a desion if we will start the MC election process right now or if we postpone this to next year. The proposed schedule for the election process starts at the 4th of Nov. with the announcement of the elections, so there should be a

Re: [steering-discuss] Thorsten's stepdown

Hi, Datum: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:17:57 +0100 Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Thorsten has unsubscribed from the internal MC mailing list. I assume this means his stepdown is effective immediately (which makes sense, since he is already officially in the BoD). I have

Re: [steering-discuss] Vote for MC elections

Hi, Datum: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:30:27 +0100 Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org The statutes in their current draft foresee 1. deputies are not attached to one specific seat holder 2. and the number of seat holders must be odd. You proposed Norbert and Simon as

[board-discuss] Pictures and abstracts for members and deputies aof the board (and MC)

Hi, as I'm currently reworking the TDF website (info on foundation), I'd ask all the new Board members / deputies to send in a picture as well as some short introduction. Please have a look at https://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/board/ for examples. We are currently missing this for

Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

Hi, Datum: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:36:01 -0200 Von: Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org An: discuss@documentfoundation.org Betreff: Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF Hello André Yes, please open a page. consider ALTA from Brazil as interested NGO. Ok, wiki page

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

Hi, Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org An: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org What we should agree on soon is whether to run the vote just now and wait with the legal set-up until the Foundation is in existence, or whether we take the existing MC (needing a

Re: [steering-discuss] freezing membership applications

Hi, Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:35:20 + Von: Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 10:34 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Not really - it's 3 weeks from candidate introduction to end of election, compared to 2 weeks for the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Postal address of TDF Members

Hi Sophi, thanks for pointing to that (and thanks to Florian for further explanation). I think, we will see some more questions on that topic, so mine would be ... Von: Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com An: discuss@documentfoundation.org For the set-up of the Foundation, we need

[tdf-discuss] Diploma thesis: a survey about OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice

Hi, yesterday we received a request for participation in a survey at the German LibreOffice list. As the survey's target is the LibO/OOo community in general, I'm forwarding this to the related lists. I'd be happy to see many community members participating (but please don't crash the survey

Re: [steering-discuss] Reimbursement for LinuxCon Europe

Hi Italo, Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:08:57 +0200 Von: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com An: TDF Steering Discuss steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Betreff: [steering-discuss] Reimbursement for LinuxCon Europe I have already asked for

Re: [steering-discuss] Proposal: Optional local NGO donation links on download and extension pages

Hi, Von: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org A local, native-lang NGO, that is in good standing with TDF, and fulfills the following prerequisites * has at least three NGO members, that are accepted TDF members at the same time * is an non-profit organisation * has, in

Re: [tdf-discuss] donation button on German download page

Hi, Original-Nachricht Von: drew d...@baseanswers.com An: discuss@documentfoundation.org Betreff: Re: [tdf-discuss] donation button on German download page I know the topic about local NGOs is still to be discussed, I think we should keep in mind, that other NGOs

Re: [steering-discuss] Off-topic - please move to discuss@

Hi David, * Von: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz I perfectly understand your point. It is not helpful when you declare a thread to be a vote among SC members and then people jump in with friendly and encouraging comments, because then the SC can't vote properly and unambiguously.

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

Hi, Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-17 12:48: I think that counts as 6 votes with none against, so it's nem con or something. The votes from deputies doesn't count if the people they are deputies for have voted. Not that it makes

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

Hi, Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org For the process of filing, it is highly advisable to have a lawyer assisting us and acting as official point of contact. Not only will some legal topics come up, but also being represented by a lawyer greatly helps in being

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

Hi, Von: Charles-H. Schulz I'd +1 Thorsten's short summary, but does it work with Debian rules? yes - it daoes, bacuse ... Le 10 août 2011 14:34, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org a écrit : The tm rule then boils down to: stuff from the official tdf/libo website - TDF

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

Hi, Von: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Hmm, if that confuses you, it will confuse otgers. I htink, what is confusing here is that ... Le 8 août 2011 11:50, Caolan McNamara cao...@skynet.ie a écrit : I'm not super-attached to the TDF tagline for

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

Hi, Von: Florian Effenberger Gesendet: 29.07.11 18:24 Uhr Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2011-07-29 18:06: Ahh, so you're asking TDF to cover the 600 euro budget overrun. Now I get it:-) Thanks for the clarification actually, I would like to ask to cover everything from the TDF account,

[steering-discuss] Please approve Simon Phipps as election secretary

Hi, this was briefly discussed in our last SC-Call and in the following MC-meeting. To ease the work of the current MC and help with the BoD elections (help with communication, organization and overseeing the election process), we would like to name Simon Phipps as election secretary for our

Re: [tdf-discuss] OCA vs. ICLA: two names - one thing?

Hi, Original-Nachricht Von: Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at So if I understand it right, the difference is a legal one with probably minor consequences in code usage: While with ICLA the contributer keeps the copyright on his own (and thus needs personal

Re: [steering-discuss] Vendor string usage in third-party packages of LibreOffice

Hi, just some comments, far from final decision ;) Von: Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org This is an extract of the TradeMark_Policy web page: You may use the Marks without prior written permission (subject to the following terms): 1. To refer to the LibreOffice software

Re: [steering-discuss] poll for call in calendar week 15

Hi, I won't be available at the weekend, so hopefully Leif can step in. Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:23:42 +0200 Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org An: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Betreff: [steering-discuss] poll for call in

Re: [steering-discuss] formal vote on Cor Nouws as deputy in the membership committee

Hi, Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To start work on the membership committee soon, all of its committee members are needed. It is possible, however, that Sophie might be unavailable for some time. To avoid the membership committee being unable to work during

Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday

Hi, Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org how about doing one during the week, and the other during weekends? That could serve both wishes, as I and some others try to keep their weekends free. :-) +1 André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday

Hi, Original-Nachricht Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org the next Steering Committee phone conference call will be tomorrow, Wednesday, March 16th 1800 UTC Still at the office and not sure if I can make it in time. So short update on

[steering-discuss] Minor incosistencies in our ByLaws

Hi, as we are currently preparing the legal documents for the Foundation in Germany, we found some minor inconsistencies in the bylaws. I'd like to ask the Steering Commitee, if we should do some modifications to our bylwas, so that the meaning is more clear. The issues we found are: 1st -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Und schon wieder eine Frage zu Übersetzungen

Hi Karl-Heinz, I guess, this was the wron list, so I'm sending to german list as well. (Follow ups should be sent only there ;) Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:38:08 +0100 Von: Karl-Heinz Gödderz libreoff...@gukk-online.de An: LibO-global-discuss

Re: [steering-discuss] RT for membership ?

Hi, Von: Sophie Gautier I begin to think about the tooling needed for the membership process. Are we going to use RT [1] for handling requests and follow up? Gnome is using it for his membership as well. Or have you already anything else in mind? Well .. I did not think about special

[steering-discuss] Minutes of SC call 2011-01-13 for review

Dear SC members, please read, review and correct the minutes at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13 regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive:

Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

Hi, Von: Rainer Bielefeld Gesendet: 11.11.10 15:47 Uhr the current bug tracking system is sufficien for expert communication, but if masses of users will file their problems, we will loose overview, soon. There are too less sort criterias for subcomponents, OS-Versions, LibO version

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

Hi, Von: Gianluca Turconi Gesendet: 03.11.10 08:40 Uhr Il 02/11/2010 20.57, Charles Marcus ha scritto: It might sound complicated, but once it is automated, it would 'just work'. Of course, the system that holds this information should be backed up religiously...;) This system may work,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

Hi Andrea, ( just to mention: I did not make my mind on this yet, I'm just providing some thoughts) Von: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org An: discuss@documentfoundation.org The paperwork was only a practical detail: not relinquising your copyright is the most important. I

[tdf-discuss] Steering Committe Meeting Minutes 2010-10-27

Hi, Minutes from our last Steering Commitee call are now online at the wiki. Topics of the call were: * Update on: discussion about community structure started (how to define members?) * Website: decision on CMS to use * Decision on where to have public SC discussions * Review and prioritize

Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] How to define Membership within TDF?

Hi, Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:39:29 +0200, Gianluca Turconi m...@letturefantastiche.com wrote: I see: The Document Foundation (members: Charles-H. Schulz, Google, whoever-you-want) with its steering committee/council; While it seem you and

Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] How to define Membership within TDF?

Hi Gainluca, Well, we're now talking about *meaningful* contribution and evaluation... ;-) That's an important step ahead. On the wiki a read: all these contributions need to be non-trivial and last for a certain time frame. Then, there's a desperate need for a clear definition

Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] How to define Membership within TDF?

Hi, Von: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com It looks good to me and covers most of the points I am familiar with in other volunteer organisations. The ND Manifesto is mentioned twice, but I don't know what or where that is. thanks for the reminder - I changed the text to be links.

Re: Re: [tdf-discuss] Basic question about Oracle asking OOo community members to leave

Hi Ramon, * Von: Ramon Sole ramon.s...@opscons.com I would seriously reconsider the way I deal with my volunteer communities. Agree. And that's they're doing exactly. They're asking TDF involved people to resign from their OOo responsabilities. Nobody asked to nobody to leave the Ooo

Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] How to define Membership within TDF?

Hi Gianluca, Von: Gianluca Turconi m...@letturefantastiche.com I've read that post, but I think you're reiterating an old misconception by confusing the Document Foundation with the wider LibreOffice Community. Hmm .. so the first topic (term definition Member) is not very clear. I'm

[tdf-discuss] [SC] Meeting minutes at the wiki

Hi everyone, just as info and because we need to be transparent - minutes of the recent Steering Committee Meeting are online at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings we are going to publish all minutes from now on and will have public agenda as well. regards,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki/Language Teams

Hi, Hier fehlt noch unser AP, bin aber nicht sicher wen einzutragen... André? Na ja - die Grobe Idee ist dort diejenigen einzutragen, die sich für die lokalen Communities zuständig fühlen , d.h. am ehesten die bisherigen Co-Leads. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams Am

[tdf-discuss] [SC] Steering Committee Info at the wiki

Hi, I started to move some formal information about the steering committe and what we agreed upon (so far) to the wiki. Those pages have a notice that the content should not be changed without approval of the SC. I'd ask all of you to respect this, so that the SC can work in wiki without the

Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] Steering Committee Info at the wiki

Hi Benjamin, This is exactly why I suggested we look at multiple wiki engines before installing one and proceeding. ACL features of Foswiki make it easy to specify a separate set of pages or an individual page, and control who has edit access, view access, or no visibility of the page at

[tdf-discuss] blog post about the steering committee

Hi, to give all of you a better picture of the Steering Committee (to be more precise: the provisional Steering Committe), I wrote some background info at my blog: http://libobil.blogspot.com/ regards, André -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

Hi, Von: Gianluca Turconi gianl...@letturefantastiche.com An: discuss@documentfoundation.org Can such new lists be announced in the announce list too? I'm subscribed to that list, but I haven't seen any news. whatever happened .. I sent it to announce:

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Legalese] Foundation or Group?

Hi, Original-Nachricht Von: Gianluca Turconi gianl...@letturefantastiche.com Should Germany be the chosen country in order to register the foundation or is that point a work in progress too? It's in progress. We (speaking of OpenOffice.org Deutschland e.V. in this