On Dec 18, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Billy Cox wrote:
> I cannot understand why a state dropdown would display state
> abbreviations
> versus the actual name of the state. One would assume that the
> average user
> knows the abbreviation of their own state, but I used to assume that
> everyone knew t
I prefer the map divided with regions... drop-down menus are ugly. or
divide the website by languages if it's not necessary to have it
divided by countries.
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On Dec 18, 2007 4:52 PM, Chris Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> I don't know what this affects as far as the real question goes, but I
> do know it would apparently make dropdowns a little easier for some. At
> least in Claude's case, he could take a number of keystrokes down to
> t
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I cannot understand why a state dropdown would display state abbreviations
versus the actual name of the state. One would assume tha
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 11:39 +0100, Claude Knaus wrote:
> I rely on an strict alphabetical list because I use the keyboard.
> I live in Switzerland (which is one of the last countries starting with 'S').
>
> What I do:
>
> 1. Press 'T' -> This will show Tanzania or Taiwan.
> 2. Press a few
I cannot understand why a state dropdown would display state abbreviations
versus the actual name of the state. One would assume that the average user
knows the abbreviation of their own state, but I used to assume that
everyone knew that they could TAB through a form.
As for the maximum number of
Some members have suggested using the IP address as a default pre-fill
for the country field.
The benefit of this approach is that for the majority of users, they
pre-fill selection will be right, saving them from modifying one of
the form's fields.
However, it may not be correct where a router,
Like Sergiu I have had to resort to going through the
registration/purchasing process to find out whether a site is US
only.
Sometimes I also have to search high and low to work out what
currency prices are in.
I suspect people forget that the Web is rather borderless.
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I rely on an strict alphabetical list because I use the keyboard.
I live in Switzerland (which is one of the last countries starting with 'S').
What I do:
1. Press 'T' -> This will show Tanzania or Taiwan.
2. Press a few times 'Arrow Up' until I find Switzerland.
I guess if the most popu
By the way... Many times I come across services I would like to use or
stores I would like to buy from and the only way to tell if it works outside
U.S. or not is to go through the registration process and get to that Enter
your address page..I try searching the geographical scope in the 'About'
se
How about an alphabetical list; with the most common choices (you can
limit it to 3 - 5) showing up at the top based on user selections; a
La MS Word font family dropdown. That way you don't force users to
see your top 5 choices (US or any other country at the top).
Also, add auto-suggest (Yahoo ma
Why not let them type country name or code inside a textbox, then do a
dynamic check to see if that country exists, updating them with text
alongside the input field? Then you don't get a huge dropdown and have
people wondering whether US is at the top or bottom.
After they fill it in, you can do
@pauric - re hostip.info. My IP address is squarely placed in the
Irish Sea so probably would not come with the right country!
Speaking from the other side of the pond I would recommend sticking
to our official (abbreviated) title of "United Kingdom".
There are unfortunately several sites where y
From a usability point of view, if 90% of your users are in the
U.S., it makes sense to put it at the top of the list. However, some
websites (like multinational corporations or NGOs) might not want to
play favorites, for political reasons.
I think if I were putting multiple countries out o
Put the likely ones at the top, and the rest in alphabetical order.
Make sure there's a line between the likely countries and the rest.
It makes it clear that this is actually two separate lists in the same
dropdown.
I'd go with most likely because it's less work for your users. And if
What about selecting a default country by IP address? (No idea what this
would involve technically.)
Chris
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. Keep in mind that users from
emerging markets (e.g. China) will pass us by very soon.
-Milmoe
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> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:46:37 -0600
> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] 'Select Country' dropdown
>
> In filling out various web forms, I have noticed two interaction standards
> specifically related to dropdowns in which the user selects their country of
Apologies for the bad markup...Jim provided the quote below, my blurb is
above his...
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To: 'Jim Drew'; 'UI List'
Subject: RE: [IxDA Discuss] 'Select Country&#
I don't know if "states" fall into the same consistency rule, but over time
when I tab into a State field, I hit the letter N six or seven times (can't
remember which off the top of my head), and whether they use NC or North
Carolina, I almost always wind up on my state. That is, even if you use
a
So, I have this really radical, amazing idea...Let's not use drop
downs for selections with insanely large numbers of selections! Every
time I see a drop down for state it makes me nuts...especially
because so many of them just show the two letter abbreviationOne
of the few numeric heuristi
Hi folks:
I am thinking about using ClickTale (www.clicktale.net), to gather
some data about actual usage patterns on a website.
This tool records the end user's screen as they interact with the
web interface. It reports back with videos and heat-maps.
Has anyone on here used this tool or has
>From: Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>2 -- Most likely selection(s) at the top of the list, with remainder of list
>alphabetical.
If you choose the latter, make sure that the pulled-out items are also listed
again in the full alpha listing. I've been caught a couple times trying to
find Unite
In some cases, I would recommend not going strictly alphabetical, because it
biases away from the majority of your users.
Our product's sign up page includes a popup for State, which includes US
protectorates like Guam. Unfortunately, alphabetically, Federated States of
Micronesia precedes Flo
Well done Caroline.
On Dec 17, 2007 2:05 PM, Caroline Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> In addition to other comments:
>
> I'm currently advising clients like this:
>
> 1. Check your databases. It's very likely that 5 to 10 countries
> account for virtually all your traffic.
> 2. Offer the mos
In addition to other comments:
I'm currently advising clients like this:
1. Check your databases. It's very likely that 5 to 10 countries
account for virtually all your traffic.
2. Offer the most popular few countries and 'other' with a box to type
into.
The apparently 'politically correct' li
On Dec 17, 2007 7:05 PM, Jennifer Berk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or (again from the 456bereastreet conversation) let the user type
> their country into a field, with type-ahead and error checking as
> desired:
> http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/index.php/2006/forms-inputting-country-names/
With th
I suppose the only possible drawback to that method is when the user is
coming in using some sort of 'Anonymizer' software, and consistently showing
up as some foreign IP.
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:59:06, pauric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, how feasible would it be for you to hook
On Dec 17, 2007 12:15 PM, Bryan Minihan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't tell you how many times I've had to build a country drop-down, and
> I've come to prefer "most likely selection first, with alphabetical
> following". For a truly global company/site where people are likely to be
> from e
Out of curiosity, how feasible would it be for you to hook in to the
geolocation DB api at http://www.hostip.info/ and provide the form
based on US preferred or Worldwide?
regards - pauric
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I had a similar situation where users needed to select multiple
countries. The version I inherited was a basic select box with
countries sorted alphabetically and required the user to control-click
to select multiples. Certainly wasn't the easiest solution, as for
one, it was difficult to navigate
Selbie
Founder, CEO Tristream
Web Application Design
http://www.tristream.com
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, December 17, 2007 11:19 AM
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In my opinion, unless your site truly has a large international user
base,
NOT putting the US at the top is a weak swipe at trying to be
politically
correct, and it truly
In my opinion, unless your site truly has a large international user base,
NOT putting the US at the top is a weak swipe at trying to be politically
correct, and it truly irritates me.
On Dec 17, 2007 8:46 AM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In filling out various web forms, I have noticed
r the "enter your city,
state/province, zip AND country" forms...
Bryan
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In filling out various web forms, I have noticed two interaction standards
specifically related to dropdowns in which the user selects their country of
residence.
1 -- List is alphabetical (placing United States near the end of the list)
2 -- Most likely selection(s) at the top of the list, wit
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