[IxDA Discuss] IxDA in flyover territory?

2008-02-27 Thread Billy Cox
I'm curious as to whether people doing interaction design live in places
other than Chicago or the coasts? Is this profession like music or theatre,
in which living in flyover territory is a career-limiting factor.
 
 
Billy Cox
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Offtopic: What music do you listen to while you design

2008-02-27 Thread Bill DeRouchey
I agree with Lisa. I can't listen to anything with recognizable words
when I'm trying to focus. In other moods I love to listen to Johnny
Cash, but I can't work to the man.

Or it could be something so familiar like a warm blanket that I don't
register the words, like the Minutemen or the Clash.

But lately, it's radio via iTunes. Either 1.FM Reggae Trade or African
Music Radio. Going for the happy. Or dublab, Orbital Grooves, Proton
Radio.

With bursts of Brian Eno and Radiohead.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread Dan Saffer
Congrats to the new Board and its officers! Can't wait to see where  
you take IxDA in the next year. And woo, Interaction09!

Dan



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread Lisa deBettencourt
And many thanks to the officers who have tirelessly dedicated their time and
efforts in the past!

~Lisa

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Congrats to the new Board and its officers! Can't wait to see where
 you take IxDA in the next year. And woo, Interaction09!

 Dan


 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Offtopic: What music do you listen to while you design

2008-02-27 Thread Scott McDaniel
I'm finding that chaotic experimental music works great for working
through an especially
difficult problem or coming up with a new approach.  I
non-scientifically declare that it helps
my electroencephalographic impulses jump neurons and reach conclusions
I'd otherwise not reach.
Aphex Twin, UNKLE, Skinny Puppy, Swans and The Legendary Pink Dots -
to name drop (behold my
obscurity!) - all feed the musical brain-monkey.

Scott

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'Life' plus 'significance' = magic. ~ Grant Morrison

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread dave malouf
I want to second Dan's congrats to the new board!
I also want to encourage people to see new opportunities for
volunteership around the world. Whenever there is change in
leadership, there comes new opportunities for engagement (or
re-engagement).

It will be great to see new local leaders emerge, and people to find
initiatives that they feel passionate about, and want to bring to
reality.

I said when I presented the Board at Interaction08 that we are not
really a volunteer-based organization, as much as an
initiative-based organization. Individuals with passion about their
ideas make IxDA happen. They drive our best initiatives: the web
site, local groups, the conference, etc.

What do you want to see happen that will further help IxDA fulfill
its missions (http://www.ixda.org/about.php)? Bounce the idea off the
board, or better just do it and see if it sticks.

We are still filled with more possibilities and a longer future of
growth.

I know already that under Josh's leadership and the rest of the
board's energy and guidance, we are off to a great start. Join the
fun!!!

-- dave


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA in flyover territory?

2008-02-27 Thread Barbara Ballard
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm curious as to whether people doing interaction design live in places
  other than Chicago or the coasts? Is this profession like music or theatre,
  in which living in flyover territory is a career-limiting factor.


Kansas City has a few resources:
VML (interactive agency)
Hallmark
Handmark
Sprint, and some local offices for Sprint suppliers
Kansas City Art Institute (some good designers have come from there)
University of Kansas interaction design program
Little Springs Design
Other web shops  agencies

And, apparently, you.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability testing at a user conference

2008-02-27 Thread Dante Murphy
Check out Mindcanvas...they have several gamelike elicitation methods that meet 
the same objective as a traditional card sort.
 
http://www.themindcanvas.com/

 

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA in flyover territory?

2008-02-27 Thread dave malouf
While this topic is incredibly US-centric, I guess I'll answer it:
The short answer is that if you want a midwestern lifestyle, your
options decrease. But here are cities that I'm pretty sure have some
good stuff going on:

Cincinnati
Austin
Dallas
St. Louis
Minneapolis
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Salt Lake City
Denver/Boulder

I'm sure there are more centers in the Central  Mountain Timezones
(Yes, I realize that Detroit and Pittsburgh are EST).

-- dave



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[IxDA Discuss] Career tips for a high-schooler

2008-02-27 Thread Michael Micheletti
List friends,

A high-school sophomore with an interest in a software design career will be
job-shadowing me Friday as part of a career day assignment. Any tips I
should pass along about education or breaking into the business would be
welcomed. I'm especially curious to hear from designers or design students
on this list who are just now starting out about what is working (or not)
for you. Thank you on behalf of my visitor,

Michael Micheletti

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability testing at a user conference

2008-02-27 Thread Russell Wilson
Jerome - did you see my posts on this?

Techsmith interview (Morae):
http://www.dexodesign.com/2008/01/techsmith-interview-on-morae-usability.html

Usability testing at conferences:
http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/07/usability-testing-at-conferences.html




On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Jerome Ryckborst 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our Marketing dep't wants me to do usability testing at an upcoming user
 conference -- a gathering of our software users. The conference's purpose:
 for users to improve their software skills and to learn about upcoming
 product advancements.

 I proposed a card sort, because it's low-tech, relatively quick, and needs
 little setup. This meets y needs (I have something I need sorted), but does
 not meet the conference goals; it won't help users improve their skills or
 learn about upcoming product advancements. So it got lots of thumbs down. I
 think it's also about the lack of glamour that a card-sort has -- users must
 leave with the right impression of Usability work.

 I can think of something else -- Morae-based usability testing of an
 upcoming feature -- but I... is there a glamourous or edu-taining Usability
 activity that I can do, instead?

 [Hey! I saw that. Stop rolling your eyes!]
 
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[IxDA Discuss] Re. IxDA in flyover territory?

2008-02-27 Thread Billy Cox

I have to confess that my resume is that of a software engineer, but I am
the IT department in my current assignment, so I have to be conversant with
more fields than the average code monkey at a large company. I also find
IxDA (or whatever the proper term is) interesting since it's more closely
related to my educational background than writing code and monkeying around
with databases.

I enjoy reading this list. Usability is one of those specialties that I
could see myself possible transitioning to at some point in the future. It
might be hard to give up the perks that go with being an IT generalist.



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Kansas City has a few resources:
VML (interactive agency)
Hallmark
Handmark
Sprint, and some local offices for Sprint suppliers
Kansas City Art Institute (some good designers have come from there)
University of Kansas interaction design program Little Springs Design Other
web shops  agencies

And, apparently, you.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA in flyover territory?

2008-02-27 Thread Billy Cox
Yes, my apologies for the US-centric topic. I suppose that the more
inclusive question would be to identify cities that are not A-list, but
which have a viable usability community.

Anyone in Mainz Germany? I'm going there in July.  :)


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While this topic is incredibly US-centric, I guess I'll answer it: The short
answer is that if you want a midwestern lifestyle, your options decrease.
But here are cities that I'm pretty sure have some good stuff going on:

Cincinnati
Austin
Dallas
St. Louis
Minneapolis
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Salt Lake City
Denver/Boulder

I'm sure there are more centers in the Central  Mountain Timezones (Yes, I
realize that Detroit and Pittsburgh are EST).

-- dave



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread Dan Saffer

On Feb 27, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Jack Moffett wrote:

 I've noticed that a lot of professionals have been complaining about
 the state of design education. It seems to me that this organization
 would be the perfect entity to formalize a method of advising
 educational institutions on what we would like to see incorporated
 into their curriculum. This shouldn't be done in a way that seems
 like we know better than the leaders of those programs, of course,
 but as a genuine effort to advise them on the current state of the
 industry. I would hope that they would find it a valuable resource
 and a welcome collaboration.

 I'd like to hear if others believe this would be a good fit for the
 overall IxDA mission.

This would be an excellent idea.

There is so much talk now about the lack of undergraduate programs in  
IxDA. It might be a great starting place for the IxDA to suggest what  
the curriculum for such a program might be. What are the foundations,  
the set of advanced classes, etc.

Dan



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Off: Where do you read news?

2008-02-27 Thread Jeff Seager
Jeff White said:
 http://www.marumushi.com/apps/newsmap/newsmap.cfm

Good combo of news and design.

Sweet!  Bears repeating.


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[IxDA Discuss] Heft and depth of content (was Portfolios)

2008-02-27 Thread Joe Lanman

 Do you find a danger, without a walk-thru, that the person you want to see
 the portfolio doesn't get to the full depth of what you have to show?

 I see this as almost an inherent problem with interactive navigation and
 the
 limitation of the screen boundaries to be able to convey what sort of
 material is behind any given screen


Firstly, I think this is an excellent point. Elsewhere you used the word
'heft' to describe the way physical
media can convey the amount of content, and the progress made through
that content.

It seems to me there could be a conflict between keeping interfaces simple
and conveying heft - most web interfaces are displaying small chunks of
massive databases - keeping that complexity at bay. This is fine in cases
where users only care about a small sub-section, for instance on a news
site, but
when a user should be making their way through more content, for
instance a training
course, conveying heft could be useful.

I'm currently working on an online learning resource, and one way I've
thought about implementing this idea is in a dynamic index page - this shows
the extent of the course in one page, and indicates which pages and sections
have been read.

Any other thoughts on this?


Joe

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA in flyover territory?

2008-02-27 Thread Brett Ingram
I used to live in Columbus. There is enough going on in that city  
that I would add it to this list.

On Feb 27, 2008, at 7:52 AM, dave malouf wrote:

 While this topic is incredibly US-centric, I guess I'll answer it:
 The short answer is that if you want a midwestern lifestyle, your
 options decrease. But here are cities that I'm pretty sure have some
 good stuff going on:

 Cincinnati
 Austin
 Dallas
 St. Louis
 Minneapolis
 Detroit
 Pittsburgh
 Salt Lake City
 Denver/Boulder

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread dave malouf
Jack,

YES! YES! YES!

The only undergrad program I know of is a minor of IxD as part of
their Industrial Design program at SCAD.

I'd love to hear about other programs no matter how tangential (in
this case), but DESIGN SCHOOL, not HCI programs from CompSci or
CogPsy programs.

There might be some good media  design programs around, but since
they don't talk up IxD they are hard to identify.

What keeps these programs which are in such obvious need (I mean the
job market discussions and lack of Jr. talent should be a huge
indicator of need.)

Why is it assumed that IxD is relegated to the masters degree level?

-- dave



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Career tips for a high-schooler

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Cobban
When I started getting into HTML and CSS coding more seriously in 2006, I
found various blogs to be extremely helpful.  I know this isn't really
groundbreaking advice, but it's great to be able to refer to those
especially since the good ones are up to date.  While the information that
blogs present doesn't always fit into your methodology, it can at least
introduce you to a new way of thinking, causing what you know and
hopefully solidifying your understanding of not only how to do something but
why.

- Scott

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Off: Where do you read news?

2008-02-27 Thread sunil shri
IBNLive  NDTV (for Indian News). BBC for World News 
 
Sunil
9916120664
http://sunilshri.blogspot.com/
http://flickr.com/photos/sunilshri/


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Hi,

I'm wondering where you guys news on the web? I mean
business/politic/hitech/world news...

CNN? Google/Yahoo News? MSNBC?

Thank you.
-- 
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Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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[IxDA Discuss] Curriculum changes for Interaction Design program

2008-02-27 Thread Paul Reijnierse
Hello everyone, I am a graduate student Interaction Design at the 
Utrecht School for the Arts in The Netherlands. Today I've been asked to 
attend a seminar on the way the pre-graduate curriculum for Interaction 
Design should evolve in the coming years. Currently the curriculum is 
mainly focused on a practical form of Interaction Design and design of 
multimedia in particular. The last years the theoretical approach has 
been scaled down dramatically, for example a course into Cognitive 
Psychology has been  pulled from the curriculum. Information on the 
Utrecht School of the Arts can be found here (most information is only 
available in Dutch, graduate school information is available in English):

http://www.hku.nl/web/English.htm

I am very interested in your vision and ideas on the way a pre-graduate 
Interaction Design curriculum should be constructed. Where would you put 
focus on? For example: I am going to talk about my experience with Alan 
Coopers goal directed design approach.

Later on this year I am planning to host a symposium on the working 
field of Interaction Design and the different approaches of today and 
possibly the future.  Any input on this will be more than welcome.

Thanks in advance,
Paul Reijnierse

 


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Offtopic: What music do you listen to while you

2008-02-27 Thread James Leslie
If I am designing I can listen to anything from Jazz to Goth/Industrial
to Classical, but when coding I can't really listen to stuff with
distinct vocals so it tends to be lots of ambient and trip-hop, with the
odd splash of techno or drum'n'bass thrown in. 

Sigur Ros seem to make me most productive.

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[IxDA Discuss] Calendar IA

2008-02-27 Thread John Gibbard
I've just pulled together the design for a calendar 'page' on an extranet
I'm working on. It is designed to show forthcoming and historical events but
also needs to show competitions.

Take a look at the page as it
standshttp://www.amorgos.plus.com/blog/calendar_IA_25-Feb-08.pdf
.


Now, competitions can have a start and closing date. I had anticipated just
showing the competition end date in the 'results' panel on the right but
perhaps the start and end date should be shown.


Any general critiques of the IA/IxD much appreciated.


J.


PS. In case the hyperlink doesn't make it through, full URL:
http://www.amorgos.plus.com/blog/calendar_IA_25-Feb-08.pdf
-- 
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t. +44 (0)7957 102577 skype. johngibbard

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[IxDA Discuss] row selection and interaction in a table or list

2008-02-27 Thread Ma, Kun
Has anyone read or discussed about design patterns for selecting and/or
interact a record row in a table or list? I'm working on a project that
a user needs to interact with single record (edit/view and delete) in a
table most of the time. However once we get into the discussion of
interaction consistency, it gets more complicated. I would like to know
if anyone has done any research in this area.
 
We can generally categorize the interaction into 3 types:
 
Case 1: A user needs to manipulate each record/row one at a time. The
action is limited to one thing (two at most) only. For example, a user
will select a row in master table to view/edit it in a detail panel. In
our case, we have edit (or view depend on the status of the record if
it is still editable) and delete actions. We are discussing a few
approaches: 
a) a user can click anywhere on a row to view or edit the detail, a
trash can icon will be available on the same row for deleting the
record. The drawback for this option is that there's no direct link or
button to spell out edit action even though we can provide mouse over
highlight to hint the rows can be clicked on. In our field studies and
usability tests, we have found that sometimes users didn't get the clue
that they could interact with the grid. 
b) provide edit/view and delete links on each row. The drawback for this
approach is that some users may get used to click on the row from other
application experience and expect the same here and also edit and delete
links take more pixel real estate than option a.
 
Case 2: A user needs to manipulate each record/row one at a time. There
are more actions can be done for each record. Design approaches for this
case are: 
a) similar to option b in case 1, provide action icons/links on each
row. Other than the links, the row is not clickable. Links can take too
much space in this case. 
b) provide links on each row as option a, but the row is clickable as
well. In this case, a single click on anywhere on a row and load detail
record immediately in detail panel can be problematic and slow down
performance. 
c) Since there are more actions now, each row can get cluttered with
action icons/links, so move the actions to a top action bar may make
sense which is similar to outlook. The drawback on this approach is that
each action takes two clicks now, select the row first, then click on
the action button. This approach makes more sense for aggregated or
batch editing as in the following case 3.
 
Case 3: A user needs to do mass edit to multiple records at a time in
the grid. The solution seem to be more unified in this case: provide
checkbox on each row and allow user to select multiple items then
perform actions by click on actions on top or bottom of the grid.
 
So is there a magic formula that provides intuitive yet consistent user
experience for all 3 cases? Should the whole row be clickable? When
provide action buttons on each row, which way is better practice: to put
the buttons on the far right or far left of the table? Will it cause
confusion if action buttons are on top for mass edit grid and then on
each row for other cases?
 
By the way, lots of our end users are novice computer users, they don't
use outlook or surf on web. And yes we are going to do usability test
eventually on this, but for this project we don't have time and budget
to do it with end users now, so I'm asking you interaction guru's
opinion now. J
 
Thanks,
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
the undergrad BFA program in New Media at Ryerson here in Toronto has
lots of IxD related stuff in it, although I don't think they really
make the association.

i've actually been trying to get in there to do a talk for their 4th
years students, we'll see how it goes.

undergrad education is a big issues .. there was also some discussion
in savannah about a mentoring program, which would also be amazing.

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:32:58, dave malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jack,

  YES! YES! YES!

  The only undergrad program I know of is a minor of IxD as part of
  their Industrial Design program at SCAD.

  I'd love to hear about other programs no matter how tangential (in
  this case), but DESIGN SCHOOL, not HCI programs from CompSci or
  CogPsy programs.

  There might be some good media  design programs around, but since
  they don't talk up IxD they are hard to identify.

  What keeps these programs which are in such obvious need (I mean the
  job market discussions and lack of Jr. talent should be a huge
  indicator of need.)

  Why is it assumed that IxD is relegated to the masters degree level?

  -- dave



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Undergraduate Interaction degree

2008-02-27 Thread mark schraad
A couple of thoughts on this topic...
A few years ago I was doing research in the retail pharma industry. At that
time the standard degree for a pharmacist changed from 5 years to 6 years.
The effect was that the demand for pharmacist went through the roof (partly
due to a year with no new graduates), and the market value of a pharmacist
went through the roof... and has pretty much stayed there.

If there was a 4 year degree for IX, would it have the opposite effect in
our industry? The masters graduates from CMU and IIT are in very high demand
- even before graduation. Talking with faculty, there are companies lobbying
for them to increase class size.

So the question is, would an undergraduate standard be good for our
profession?

Second question... Can it be done well? Interaction design is more demanding
than say, graphic design. Can you get a balanced design education in a four
year degree with the addition of social science, cognitive science... and
research? Any current design faculty want to take a shot at this?

Mark

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:32:58, dave malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jack,

 YES! YES! YES!

 The only undergrad program I know of is a minor of IxD as part of
 their Industrial Design program at SCAD.

 I'd love to hear about other programs no matter how tangential (in
 this case), but DESIGN SCHOOL, not HCI programs from CompSci or
 CogPsy programs.

 There might be some good media  design programs around, but since
 they don't talk up IxD they are hard to identify.

 What keeps these programs which are in such obvious need (I mean the
 job market discussions and lack of Jr. talent should be a huge
 indicator of need.)

 Why is it assumed that IxD is relegated to the masters degree level?

 -- dave



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Undergraduate Interaction degree

2008-02-27 Thread Jack Moffett

On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:59 PM, mark schraad wrote:

 Can it be done well? Interaction design is more demanding
 than say, graphic design.


No, I must disagree. It's only different. When I tell people that my  
wife has a Ph.D. in Human Genetics, they are extremely impressed.  
Now, I'll be the first to claim that she is an impressive person, but  
it's actually just a matter of the interests and path she chose to  
pursue.

I do believe it is just a matter of designing the curriculum  
appropriately. I'm not saying it's trivial, by any means, but it is  
definitely do-able.

Jack


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Offtopic: What music do you listen to while you design

2008-02-27 Thread Kel Smith
Minimalist, quiet, ambient, repetitive music. Steve Reich, Shuttle358,
Sakamoto, Oval, Harold Budd, etc. Something to fill the air without
being annoying or sappy.  

Scott McD- I saw LPD live while in college. Weird show. 


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread Loren Baxter
A mentoring program would be huge.  There are many talented and experienced
designers on this board, and many new entrants to the field.  The juniors
have a lot to learn from the seniors, but the sheer size and maturity of
this list can make posting intimidating.  I've heard of creating some other
smaller conversation spaces, such as a job board (still a great idea).
Something similar geared toward mentoring or IxD development may help
encourage more personalized discussion and relationship building.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Undergraduate Interaction degree

2008-02-27 Thread mark schraad
Jack: No, I must disagree. It's only different
Yep - having been a graphic designer early in my career, it is difficult (if
not impossible) for me to imagine practicing interaction design without
those visual thinking tools.

Hey Brian, when I was running my company, we participated in the co-op
program with Cincinnati. What a fantastic approach. There is no substitute
for time spent actually doing the work in the real world!

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Brian Herzfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I think it can be done well. However a with a four year program would
 preclude a lot of students financially so there would have to be some kinf
 non gov subsidation. Maybe something like the design co-op program in
 Cincinnati. I went to IIT Institute of Design and three years about killed
 me both  emotionally and financially. Not sure I could have done four at
 that level of intensity :) but then again I was in mid 30's and couldn't
 pull the all nighter like I could in my 20's.

 I believe you could get a well rounded education in 3-4 years. Basics of
 design, some research and prototyping skills, teams skills, learning the
 tools then a big dose of UI/IxD. I like the co-op idea because design school
 prepares you to do the thinking and the basic skills to do the work but
 fails in preparing one for doing that work in the context of a real
 business. There is so much more to learn about executing design projects
 that you just don't get exposed to until you are out there in it. This might
 be one reason its tough for new graduates as its tough, unless you are lucky
 enough to have prior design work experience, to really be able to hit the
 ground running.

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:59 AM, mark schraad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  A couple of thoughts on this topic...
  A few years ago I was doing research in the retail pharma industry. At
  that
  time the standard degree for a pharmacist changed from 5 years to 6
  years.
  The effect was that the demand for pharmacist went through the roof
  (partly
  due to a year with no new graduates), and the market value of a
  pharmacist
  went through the roof... and has pretty much stayed there.
 
  If there was a 4 year degree for IX, would it have the opposite effect
  in
  our industry? The masters graduates from CMU and IIT are in very high
  demand
  - even before graduation. Talking with faculty, there are companies
  lobbying
  for them to increase class size.
 
  So the question is, would an undergraduate standard be good for our
  profession?
 
  Second question... Can it be done well? Interaction design is more
  demanding
  than say, graphic design. Can you get a balanced design education in a
  four
  year degree with the addition of social science, cognitive science...
  and
  research? Any current design faculty want to take a shot at this?
 
  Mark
 
  On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:32:58, dave malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Jack,
  
   YES! YES! YES!
  
   The only undergrad program I know of is a minor of IxD as part of
   their Industrial Design program at SCAD.
  
   I'd love to hear about other programs no matter how tangential (in
   this case), but DESIGN SCHOOL, not HCI programs from CompSci or
   CogPsy programs.
  
   There might be some good media  design programs around, but since
   they don't talk up IxD they are hard to identify.
  
   What keeps these programs which are in such obvious need (I mean the
   job market discussions and lack of Jr. talent should be a huge
   indicator of need.)
  
   Why is it assumed that IxD is relegated to the masters degree level?
  
   -- dave
  
  
  
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Off: Where do you read news?

2008-02-27 Thread Rob Brown
Here here... Netvibes

I also found that to keep up with the various design websites that I prefer,
with there infrequent posting, and often times similar articles.

I built a yahoo pipes(http://pipesw.yahoo.com) to aggregate the content into
a single feed, which I then subscribe to via netvibes.


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Web Design  Technology
Adobe Systems Incorporated
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Calendar IA

2008-02-27 Thread Jacob
Two things:

1 - I think you should add the range on the right for competitions.
I'm thinking about the case when it is showing up because the end
date hasn't passed, but I'm actually too early and it hasn't
started yet either. There needs to be some visual cue that I can't
enter the competition and I need to know when I could.

I think changing the text that is the link to: This competition
hasn't started. Learn More  or the like would do that and then if
the dates were listed in a range I would be able to figure out when
it would start, without clicking through.

2 - I think the bigger issue might be how competitions and dates are
displayed  on the left hand calendar. I think it would be better if
competitions were shown as blocks of days with the same colour. Of
course this could get rather rainbow if there are a bunch of
competitions in a month, so perhaps just switching between two colors
to differentiate.

Don't know if you are going to be producing this as well, but the
YUI calendar component could make things a bit easier:

http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/calendar/


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Off: Where do you read news?

2008-02-27 Thread William Evans
[plug] I have a private label semantic web 3.0 news portal with  
seriously cool clustering coolness. HiveFire will go outa stealth mode  
in 2 months.

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On Feb 27, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Rob Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here here... Netvibes

 I also found that to keep up with the various design websites that I  
 prefer,
 with there infrequent posting, and often times similar articles.

 I built a yahoo pipes(http://pipesw.yahoo.com) to aggregate the  
 content into
 a single feed, which I then subscribe to via netvibes.


 -- 
 Rob Brown
 Sr. Information Architect
 Web Design  Technology
 Adobe Systems Incorporated
 P. 415.832.5245
 C. 510.207.7835
 E. [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread Josh Seiden
First off, I know I speak for the entire Board when I say thanks for
the good wishes. This good will and energy is just another reflection
of what makes this community is a special one.

I personally am in awe of what this community has accomplished in the
last few years. The discussion list, the Local Groups programs, our
first conference--all of this happened because we were able to
harness our collective energy.

The outlook for the future is amazing! The discussion is thriving,
and we have great momentum for Local Groups and Interaction '09. 

One of the great assets that we have--as a community of designers--is
a wealth of good ideas. Our challenge is to do justice to them! We
can't do everything, but we have already done amazing
things--because people got involved. If you'd like to get more
involved, or want to pitch a proposal, email volunteers [at] ixda
[dot] org.

Thanks,
JS



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Offtopic: What music do you listen to while you

2008-02-27 Thread Shaun Bergmann
That describes my process exactly.  When in the depths of some convoluted,
confusing 3D logic path I require either absolute silence or at the most
some classical, ambient, trance.  Vocals have a tendency to knock the whole
cardhouse down. (unless it's Sigur Ros, which one can't really sing along to
in the head)
Absolute silence is difficult at times with 3 other workstations directly
beside me, which is when the earplugs come out and the 'No Coheed and
Cambria' sign goes up.

When up here on the surface and doing the more visually creative aspects
however, things get quite a bit more upbeat.  Industrial, old Skinny Puppy,
the Cramps, Interpol, She Wants Revenge etc.
I Love Yahoo Music's artist fan station for streaming.  It's almost as
good as MusicMatch used to be.

I do find, however, that I have to keep watch on how much industrial I'm
listening to when in 'graphics land' due to the possibility of the design
incorporating too much of a 'barbed wire and concrete' style.
Does anybody else find that the creative process can be greatly influenced
by what's currently playing?

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 If I am designing I can listen to anything from Jazz to Goth/Industrial
 to Classical, but when coding I can't really listen to stuff with
 distinct vocals so it tends to be lots of ambient and trip-hop, with the
 odd splash of techno or drum'n'bass thrown in.

 Sigur Ros seem to make me most productive.
 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Career tips for a high-schooler

2008-02-27 Thread ELISABETH HUBERT
One thing I'd be sure to mention is how important it is for our
profession to think like others. So although the basic knowledge
is SUPER important I'd pass on how you interact and work with
non-design partners. Hope this helps!!


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Calendar IA

2008-02-27 Thread Charles B. Kreitzberg
If I am reading your design correctly, the calendar on the left and the
categories below it control the list on the right. If that is the case, I
think that a user's comprehension would be improved if the design could
visually show that relationship. Right now they look like three independent
boxes.

Charlie


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[IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread Josh Evnin
I was watching the Nokia Morph
Concepthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-gTobCJHsvideo this
afternoon, and it got me thinking on a
tangent. Perhaps it's only because there was only one character in the
video, but I
am having a hard time seeing how this sort of tool would benefit human
interaction...the kinds we all potentially will design.

I guess my broad question is, in your opinions, how will Nanotechnology
impact Interaction Design? For the uneducated, is Nanotechnology just about
mobile phones that you can fold up and put in your pocket (or wrap around
your wrist), or will there be bigger interaction benefits as well?

Looking forward to your forward-thinking opinions.

Josh


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[IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Rob Nero

Just found this article on AppleInsider:

Apple holds big plans for 'iPhone University' on college campuses:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/27/apple_holds_big_plans_for_iphone_university_on_college_campuses.html

You can follow a link from the article to this page:
http://www.acu.edu/technology/mobilelearning/index.html


Interesting video on the 2nd link, showing how an average freshman
student at the university could use an iPhone as a lifeline to the
university. For such uses as: interactive maps, class schedule, ebooks for
classes, class podcasts, sms messages from teachers, links to
facebook/myspace, etc...

The video was kinda cheesy at times, but overall, a powerful concept. I
remember the stress and agony of being a freshman at university, not
knowing anyone, and not knowing where anything was. I can imagine this
would seem second-nature for a modern freshman, already used to sms'ing
their friends and utilizing a multitude of social networking options.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Announces New Board of Directors for 2008-2009

2008-02-27 Thread Elizabeth Bacon
Hi folks,

Education is a very important issue, and totally appropriate for IxDA
to tackle. As we mentioned at the end of our Board Retreat minutes
from Nov 2007 (see , the Board at that time did not have the capacity
to tackle such a major initiative as education. That's why we
asked people who were interested to step up! Happily, it's an issue
that new board member Jeremy Yuille is particularly passionate about,
and I echo his sentiments as well as the hopes of the group in this
regard. We'll start investigating this area further and the Board
*sincerely* and *eagerly* welcomes further volunteer support  ideas.


I'm also pleased to say that the Mentoring program concept is moving
forward. A member of our community is putting together a proposal that
has great potential and I'm personally committed to helping move this
idea forward. It will take intense involvement from many individuals
to make it happen, so I hope that you all can start to open your
minds to the possibilities and that many of you will elect to
participate 

Thanks in general for all the support! As we all saw at Interaction
08 in Savannah, this IxDA group can make for a *really* great team. 

Cheers,
Liz


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Career tips for a high-schooler

2008-02-27 Thread Dan Saffer
Learn to draw and sketch. And, dare I say it, maybe code.

This will help get them into a good design school, where that skill  
will be (hopefully) refined and combined with problem solving and  
additional design skills.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Career tips for a high-schooler

2008-02-27 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk

On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Dan Saffer wrote:

 Learn to draw and sketch. And, dare I say it, maybe code.

I think Hell just froze over. 8^)

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] row selection and interaction in a table or list

2008-02-27 Thread Rich Rogan
Hi Kun,

We are dealing with very similar issues, and have come up with some
interaction idioms and general rules, and base the overall design on
assumptions which need to be tested.

Certain overarching design concepts dictate a higher level of interaction,
such as:

Which ever way we go, keep it consistent, for usability and learnability.
Keep it as simple as possible, especially with interaction, (this is where
it can get problematic).
Design for the target user, (our target is the somewhat computer literate
intermediate user, who uses the system 1 + hour every day).


Regarding your case 1 - single action on single row:

We have row onfocus bringing up the Detail, which can then be edited, no
need for edit links at the end of row.

Regarding your case 2 - multiple actions on one row:
We use top buttons like Outlook. Originally we thought of going with an
underlay, which opened with row onfocus, but as these actions would be
mostly hidden, we went with making the functioanlity more obvious by
displaying persistent buttons at top of grid, (note actions placed at top of
grid allow more horizontal real estate for row data, then putting all
actions at end of rows).

With edits, we have edits accessible by clicking at the cell level within
a row, which opens the detail.

Regarding your case 3 - one or more action(s) on one or more rows:

This is a tricky one. We are using check boxes with the above interaction
paradymes. This brings into question, what does onfocus mean, when.

For example, when a user is prospecting rows for which row to select, we
have designed the following onfocus interactions of an unchecked row:

A: Clicking on a row does NOT select the row for the multiple row actions,
(does not auto check the check box).
B: Clicking on an unchecked row allows standard view/edit of that row,
regardless if other rows have been checked for multi select or not.
C: Clicking on an unchecked row does NOT uncheck other rows, which had
been previously been checked.

Regarding Checked rows:

A: The only way to multi select a row is to check the check box, (we're
also looking into key board short cuts such as shift click).
B: Checking a checkbox does NOT place this row onfocus, only clicking on
the row, outside the checkbox puts the row onfocus.
C: Clicking on one checked row puts all checked rows onfocus, and
allows aggregate edits with this onfocus, (note this is still
contraversial, any thoughts on this are appreciated).
D: To view the details of a single checked row, the user must uncheck
the row then click this row for onfocus.

This is as far as we got with the single/multiple row selection actions.

OK so that's how we're looking to design tthis, any ideas/comments are
welcome,

Rich





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 Has anyone read or discussed about design patterns for selecting and/or
 interact a record row in a table or list? I'm working on a project that
 a user needs to interact with single record (edit/view and delete) in a
 table most of the time. However once we get into the discussion of
 interaction consistency, it gets more complicated. I would like to know
 if anyone has done any research in this area.

 --
 Joseph Rich Rogan
 President UX/UI Inc.
 http://www.jrrogan.com

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread dave malouf
Wow! what isn't IxD here. Not sure why the single user makes a
difference.

But the fact that form is not static in a physical device, that fact
that there are innovations in sensing, imaging, etc. will drastically
change the way we interact with devices and what functionality we
conceive to put on devices. 

Contextually aware physical interfaces? Wow! 
I want one now!

-- dave


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] row selection and interaction in a table or list

2008-02-27 Thread Alok Jain
Kun,

This is how we have solved it in past:

- On mouseover of the individual row, we display actions.
- In addition there is a shortcut for edit - doubleclick
- Multiple rows can be selected by just clicking on them , all  
shortcuts are supported - Ctrl + Click, Shif + Click - something like 
http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/grid/xml-grid.html
As multiple rows are selected, the actions appear on the last row
- Right Click Menu and keyboard shortcut for each actions is also  
supported

Please note, our entire application works this way..

- AJ


On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Ma, Kun wrote:

 Has anyone read or discussed about design patterns for selecting and/ 
 or
 interact a record row in a table or list? I'm working on a project  
 that
 a user needs to interact with single record (edit/view and delete)  
 in a
 table most of the time. However once we get into the discussion of
 interaction consistency, it gets more complicated. I would like to  
 know
 if anyone has done any research in this area.

 We can generally categorize the interaction into 3 types:

 Case 1: A user needs to manipulate each record/row one at a time. The
 action is limited to one thing (two at most) only. For example, a user
 will select a row in master table to view/edit it in a detail panel.  
 In
 our case, we have edit (or view depend on the status of the record  
 if
 it is still editable) and delete actions. We are discussing a few
 approaches:
 a) a user can click anywhere on a row to view or edit the detail, a
 trash can icon will be available on the same row for deleting the
 record. The drawback for this option is that there's no direct link or
 button to spell out edit action even though we can provide mouse  
 over
 highlight to hint the rows can be clicked on. In our field studies and
 usability tests, we have found that sometimes users didn't get the  
 clue
 that they could interact with the grid.
 b) provide edit/view and delete links on each row. The drawback for  
 this
 approach is that some users may get used to click on the row from  
 other
 application experience and expect the same here and also edit and  
 delete
 links take more pixel real estate than option a.

 Case 2: A user needs to manipulate each record/row one at a time.  
 There
 are more actions can be done for each record. Design approaches for  
 this
 case are:
 a) similar to option b in case 1, provide action icons/links on each
 row. Other than the links, the row is not clickable. Links can take  
 too
 much space in this case.
 b) provide links on each row as option a, but the row is clickable as
 well. In this case, a single click on anywhere on a row and load  
 detail
 record immediately in detail panel can be problematic and slow down
 performance.
 c) Since there are more actions now, each row can get cluttered with
 action icons/links, so move the actions to a top action bar may make
 sense which is similar to outlook. The drawback on this approach is  
 that
 each action takes two clicks now, select the row first, then click on
 the action button. This approach makes more sense for aggregated or
 batch editing as in the following case 3.

 Case 3: A user needs to do mass edit to multiple records at a time in
 the grid. The solution seem to be more unified in this case: provide
 checkbox on each row and allow user to select multiple items then
 perform actions by click on actions on top or bottom of the grid.

 So is there a magic formula that provides intuitive yet consistent  
 user
 experience for all 3 cases? Should the whole row be clickable? When
 provide action buttons on each row, which way is better practice: to  
 put
 the buttons on the far right or far left of the table? Will it cause
 confusion if action buttons are on top for mass edit grid and then on
 each row for other cases?

 By the way, lots of our end users are novice computer users, they  
 don't
 use outlook or surf on web. And yes we are going to do usability test
 eventually on this, but for this project we don't have time and budget
 to do it with end users now, so I'm asking you interaction guru's
 opinion now. J

 Thanks,
 Kun


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread Brandon E.B. Ward
I sort of agree w/ Wired's take on the whole thing, albeit very cool to think 
about.

Nokia's Morph concept phone offers an image of the future. It is a future 
where, despite nanotechnology being so advanced we can fabricate integrated 
circuits, displays and physical interfaces that are able reconfigure themselves 
in a dynamic freeform substrate, we are still making phone calls.

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/02/10-uses-for-the.html

B

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Jerome Ryckborst
I watched half of the iPhone University movie, Part 1. Random thoughts:

 *   Shooter on campus. With everyone having an iPhone -- provided by the 
university?! -- it no doubt gives the administration an instant channel to all 
students when someone goes ballistic with a gun. [Sarcasm: Who needs gun 
control when everyone on campus has iPhone?]
 *   Think green. The key to broad adoption of these devices would lie in the 
quality of the services that the university offers via iPhone -- changing 
course sections, GPS-style wayfinding with a campus map, e-mailing your 
professors, finding the syllabus for each course, and finding your book list. 
it's all paper free.
 If it weren't for the books themselves, the paper-free university would 
have arrived last year. Is the iPhone itself green?
 *   Hand me my cane. A device + service like that would have made my student 
life So Much Easier, but I went to school last century.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread mauro pinheiro
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Josh Evnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was watching the Nokia Morph Concept
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-gTobCJHs video this
 afternoon, and it got me thinking on a
 tangent. Perhaps it's only because there was only one character in the
 video, but I am having a hard time seeing how this sort of tool would
 benefit human interaction...the kinds we all potentially will design.

  I guess my broad question is, in your opinions, how will Nanotechnology
  impact Interaction Design? For the uneducated, is Nanotechnology just about
  mobile phones that you can fold up and put in your pocket (or wrap around
  your wrist), or will there be bigger interaction benefits as well?


Hi Josh,

I was very impressed with the video. Not because of the product
itself, but for the possible applications that I could imagine after
seeing it. I'm not familiar with nanotechnology, but it seems to me
that is another step towards accomplishing a pervasive/ubiquitous
computing world.

It seems to me that nanotechnology would make it possible to really
think about embedded computers. Any sort of object could have some
kind of computer on it. Clothes, glasses, wires...any object could
became smart.

You may ask: is that something we would want?

I guess we already do! Just look around...

There are some key values that I see in our lifes that would be
enhanced with this technology.

Information is one key value. We design information systems. We design
tools to make easier to find and use information. We produce
information. We share information. More than ever, we consume
information.

Another key component of our lifes is mobility. To be able to access,
to communicate, to connect with each other in different spaces is
something that is vital to many of us today. Twittering on the way
home. Checking emails on the airport. Taking pictures, sending them to
our Flickr account in real time etc.

Still we have to deal with many devices that are not so different from
our desktops computers. Laptops, iPhones...these are different sizes
of a not so different conceptual product. We still have to phocus very
hard on the object to use it. It still demands our attention. They
concentrate hundreds of functions, programs. They are more likely a
swiss knife. Many tools in one device.

I guess with nanotechnology we would be able to create products that
could rely on a calm technology approach, to quote Mark Weiser...As
any object can have an embedded computer, being able to access
information, to exchange data within the environment and within other
objects, we start to have dynamic contexts of interaction. Our
products could sense the environment, and respond to it. Change
under the influence of the context. Less effort from us.

Nanotechnology is definitely not about mobile phones. That is Nokia
business, so that's how they use it.

Nanotechnology is about wearable computers. Hands-free devices.
Dynamic environments that change upon your influence.

The interaction benefits I can imagine for nanothecnology are beyond
my wildest dreams. :-)

-- 
prof. mauro pinheiro
universidade federal do espĂ­rito santo
centro de artes
depto. de desenho industrial

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Paul Trumble
Not a manual typewriter, but an electric portable Smith Corona.  Then again,
I seem to recall I usually wrote them out longhand.

Paul

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wrote:

 Oooh, geezer thread!

 I remember what a pain it was to type my term papers on a manual
 typewriter with two fingers and no correction ribbon. Footnotes, anyone?


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The truth is more important than the facts - Frank Lloyd Wright


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread Brad Ty Nunnally
I have to agree with Dave here. The prospect of having devices that
behave in a completly different way based on context would be earth
shattering. 

An example is one of the first iPhone commercials that came out with
the guy that was complaining about having to always carry around 3
different devices, phone, mp3, and something else I can't remember.
The point of the commercial was you now had all the power in a single
device the iPhone. 

With the concept of this technology a single device could replace
countless devices that we all need to carry around on any given day. 

The interaction of each of these context would then need to be
considered during the design of the device. For each context the
device is made to handle, the design time for the overall device
would increase. Goes back to there is never going to be a single
Golden Design.

Star Trek thinking here: A single device could take the place of your
keys by unlocking your car/house/door/etc, mp3 player, digital
camera/cam corder, PDA, watch, GPS, TV Remote, etc. The options are
almost limitless. Too bad the technology isn't here yet, maybe when
I am an old man :D (24 here)


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Power icon

2008-02-27 Thread Shaun Bergmann
Interesting.
Unless I was designing something with the understanding that my ENTIRE
audience was comprised of electrical engineers, I doubt I would think this
is a very good design.
Which brings me back to 'How did this awful thing get to be so widespread
and popular?
Was there a particular product that used it once, way back in the dark ages,
that injected it's branding and just beat the world population into
understanding that this means power?

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:43 PM, William Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From electrical engineering. Its a closed circuit.

 will evans
 user experience architect
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 617.281.1281


 On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Shaun Bergmann
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  A discussion came up at the office today that got me wondering.
  Do any of you know the history of the 'Power' Icon?  You know the
  one:  The
  circle with the vertical bar pointing up and overlapping the top
  edge of the
  circle.
 
  This icon was being incorporated into an interface and the argument
  was made
  that not everybody is going to know what that icon means
 
  That's totally possible. If anything stands out as a good example of
  the
  statement that there are no intuitive interfaces -- all interfaces are
  learned -- it's this icon.  The only reason people are going to know
  that
  it's the power button is because they know it's the power button.
 
  I looked at it's design from a fresh perspective today and really
  have to
  question WHY it's become so prevalent?  Visually, it doesn't say
  power to
  me.  Where'd this thing come from?
  
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Power icon

2008-02-27 Thread Scott McDaniel
That is interesting, because even knowing what it is, my mind has to
close the circuit on what does that mean?
-which I guess brings up the question if widespread use translates to
true usability, or just dancing-bear familiarity.

Scott

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Shaun Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interesting.
  Unless I was designing something with the understanding that my ENTIRE
  audience was comprised of electrical engineers, I doubt I would think this
  is a very good design.
  Which brings me back to 'How did this awful thing get to be so widespread
  and popular?
  Was there a particular product that used it once, way back in the dark ages,
  that injected it's branding and just beat the world population into
  understanding that this means power?
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Power icon

2008-02-27 Thread Bruce Esrig
Bill DeRouchey asked this question just a few weeks ago and got some pretty
authoritative answers. It traces back, most recently, to a harmonized
standard that has been given different numbers by ISO and the IEEE.

You can see the comments from industrial designers at
http://www.historyofthebutton.com/2007/01/30/printer-icons-design-by-habit/

According to the standards, the two components are a vertical stroke and a
circle. When the vertical stroke goes through the top of the circle, the
meaning is standby.

Best wishes,

Bruce Esrig

On 2/27/08, William Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From electrical engineering. Its a closed circuit.

 will evans
 user experience architect
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 617.281.1281


 On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Shaun Bergmann
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  A discussion came up at the office today that got me wondering.
  Do any of you know the history of the 'Power' Icon?  You know the
  one:  The
  circle with the vertical bar pointing up and overlapping the top
  edge of the
  circle.
 
  This icon was being incorporated into an interface and the argument
  was made
  that not everybody is going to know what that icon means
 
  That's totally possible. If anything stands out as a good example of
  the
  statement that there are no intuitive interfaces -- all interfaces are
  learned -- it's this icon.  The only reason people are going to know
  that
  it's the power button is because they know it's the power button.
 
  I looked at it's design from a fresh perspective today and really
  have to
  question WHY it's become so prevalent?  Visually, it doesn't say
  power to
  me.  Where'd this thing come from?
  
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Power icon

2008-02-27 Thread Shaun Bergmann
Thanks Bruce!  that's exactly what I was looking for.


The source art for all the icons was extremely specific, and to be used in
its exact form and for its prescribed purpose. Circle used discretely was
for off; bar used discretely was for on; bar inside the circle was reserved
for controls that provided power on/off on a single control, like a push
on/push off switch. As far as I know, anything else is a stylized
modification that was inspired by the ISO standard but does not conform
to it.

Sounds to me like they decided to simply go with binary.  0/1  (or as put
here, Circle / Bar)

Neat idea, but I still don't like it.  I won't even start about the issues I
have with the 1/0 power toggle on the back of most computers.

So, it's a standard.  Suppose it's a bit of an uphill climb at this point
changing a standard, but it begs to question:
What would have been better?

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Bruce Esrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bill DeRouchey asked this question just a few weeks ago and got some
 pretty
 authoritative answers. It traces back, most recently, to a harmonized
 standard that has been given different numbers by ISO and the IEEE.

 You can see the comments from industrial designers at

 http://www.historyofthebutton.com/2007/01/30/printer-icons-design-by-habit/

 According to the standards, the two components are a vertical stroke and a
 circle. When the vertical stroke goes through the top of the circle, the
 meaning is standby.

 Best wishes,

 Bruce Esrig

 On 2/27/08, William Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From electrical engineering. Its a closed circuit.
 
  will evans
  user experience architect
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  617.281.1281
 
 
  On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Shaun Bergmann
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   A discussion came up at the office today that got me wondering.
   Do any of you know the history of the 'Power' Icon?  You know the
   one:  The
   circle with the vertical bar pointing up and overlapping the top
   edge of the
   circle.
  
   This icon was being incorporated into an interface and the argument
   was made
   that not everybody is going to know what that icon means
  
   That's totally possible. If anything stands out as a good example of
   the
   statement that there are no intuitive interfaces -- all interfaces are
   learned -- it's this icon.  The only reason people are going to know
   that
   it's the power button is because they know it's the power button.
  
   I looked at it's design from a fresh perspective today and really
   have to
   question WHY it's become so prevalent?  Visually, it doesn't say
   power to
   me.  Where'd this thing come from?
   
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Power icon

2008-02-27 Thread Morten Hjerde
Id say that the only awful thing about about the power symbol is that it is
misused by designers who presumably don't like the look of it. Its like
saying I don't like the letter A because visually it doesn't say a to
me.

The symbol is a standard. Power as such does not have any visual component
so the world has agreed on a fairly easily recognizable symbol and people
have just learned the meaning of it.

The symbol consists of a 1 which means on state and a 0 that means
off state. If the 1 is inside a 0 it means toggle on/off. The symbol
you describe is the standby symbol. You may of course invent your own, but
if you are going to use the power symbol, please use it correctly. Check
wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_symbol

Morten



On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Shaun Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Interesting.
 Unless I was designing something with the understanding that my ENTIRE
 audience was comprised of electrical engineers, I doubt I would think this
 is a very good design.
 Which brings me back to 'How did this awful thing get to be so widespread
 and popular?
 Was there a particular product that used it once, way back in the dark
 ages,
 that injected it's branding and just beat the world population into
 understanding that this means power?

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:43 PM, William Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   From electrical engineering. Its a closed circuit.
 
  will evans
  user experience architect
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  617.281.1281
 
 
  On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Shaun Bergmann
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   A discussion came up at the office today that got me wondering.
   Do any of you know the history of the 'Power' Icon?  You know the
   one:  The
   circle with the vertical bar pointing up and overlapping the top
   edge of the
   circle.
  
   This icon was being incorporated into an interface and the argument
   was made
   that not everybody is going to know what that icon means
  
   That's totally possible. If anything stands out as a good example of
   the
   statement that there are no intuitive interfaces -- all interfaces are
   learned -- it's this icon.  The only reason people are going to know
   that
   it's the power button is because they know it's the power button.
  
   I looked at it's design from a fresh perspective today and really
   have to
   question WHY it's become so prevalent?  Visually, it doesn't say
   power to
   me.  Where'd this thing come from?
   
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread lukeisha carr
The Nokia Morph concept is awesome!  I just wrote an article for a
class assignment on nanotechnology for new medical drug uses.  It was
my first time learning what nanotechnology actually was, and the
potential of its abilities.  I find it amazing, and a little scary at
the same time.

I agree with Dave.  The Nokia Morph concept encompasses everything
interactive.  Nanotechnology may be a flexible type of technology,
but what it can do for or show to a user still needs to be designed 
programmed into it.  It still needs information architecture and an
interface.  The value of the flexible phone itself may seem to be
useless to some, but to me, so are video games (no offense to video
gamers out there).  It's entertainment, fun, and most important to
IxDers, interactive.

The concept of technology like this one, clear walls and table top
surfaces with touch applications in them is what's gotten me so
interested in interaction design.  I would love to work on things
such as the Nokia Morph!


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread Alla Zollers
Hi Josh --

Thanks for sharing the video, I also found it to be really
interesting. 

From a future interaction point of view, I find this concept very
short sighted. Not only is does the concept not demonstrate more
social interaction (as you have mentioned), but the interaction is
still focused on a single tangible object. Can we not imagine a world
were we might not have to carry around objects (even cool bendy ones),
but rather seamlessly be able to accomplish our tasks through the
embedding of nanotechnology in our surrounding environment? Isn't
one of the goals of good interaction design to be so transparent that
there is basically no interface. I see this is a definite possibility
with nanotechonology.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread Brian Williams
I have a theory that anytime that a company has to resort to making videos
of products, rather than making products, it's in serious trouble. Can
anyone think of a company that made a visionary video and later made a
visionary product?

The examples of companies that ran into trouble after making their concept
videos are:

Apple: Knowledge Navigator
Sun: Starfire
HP: not sure of the name, but that one with that crap built into the fridge
:)
ATT:  You Will campaign

I know that there are a bunch more, but I can't find them right now.

So are there any companies that have benefited from these vision videos? All
of the above went into serious decline after the videos were made.
Don't get me wrong I think that they are wonderful (except for ATT's), but
it seems that are an indication that the company can't actually deliver, so
they fake it.

The best way to predict the future is to invent it. Alan Kay

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Nokia Morph Nanotechnology

2008-02-27 Thread Scott McDaniel
Correlation is not causation.

Scott
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Power icon

2008-02-27 Thread Shaun Bergmann
What an interesting little journey into the depths of the ISO/IEEE Power
Control User Interface standard this topic started.  The links that have
been posted here have been great, and I'm glad to see this topic has been
visited time and time again in various forums over the years, and that I'm
not the first person to have questioned it.

(It certainly goes to prove once again that sometimes the most seemingly
simple functions can be deviously shrouded in all sorts of complications.)
The reference to the standard that the Wikipedia link has four different
symbols for 'power on', 'power off', 'power on/off toggle' and 'power
on/standby toggle'.

Whether correctly implemented or not, it's the last of the above symbols
(the 'standby toggle') that we see most commonly applied to refer to
'power'.

According to the original standard, as Morten has pointed out, the symbol
I'm referring to would only be correctly implemented if it was strictly
referencing a toggle between standby and power.  The power on symbol
is simply a single vertical bar.

Well, the interface I am currently designing is a touchpanel which resides
in a lecturn for a large, publicly available conference room.  The user will
be anybody who rents the space for a presentation, and they will not have
the luxury of being trained in how to use the system.  The complexity of all
the equipment needs to be completely invisible to them, and the Power on
symbol on the only available button perfectly satisfied this requirement.

Until, of course, I realized that symbol would 'break' the standard.  It's
not a toggle.  The correct symbol is the vertical bar for that function.
I quickly redesigned the interface to be the vertical bar and held a quick
and dirty survey (ie: anybody walking past my workstation):
Nobody had any idea what the button meant, (one person said I dunno, is
that the Eye of Sauron?) yet when I showed them the other 'wrong'
interface, they instantly recognized the standby toggle to mean power.

I read the addendum on the standard, I was incredibly relieved to find that
there has been some pushes to incorporate the 'standby toggle' to simply
mean power if possible.

If there are safety considerations in the equipment you are controlling
where it's absolutely essential to indicate whether or not the hardware is
still being supplied by power there's a need to use the 4-state standard and
be very clear about the differences between 'power on', 'power off', 'power
on/off toggle' and 'power on/standby', but when possible it suggests using
the 'standby toggle' to simply mean power.  Phew.

Here's another concise link for some of the same topic:
http://eepn.com/Locator/Products/Index.cfm?Ad=1Ad=1ArticleID=31710

Shaun



On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Morten Hjerde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Id say that the only awful thing about about the power symbol is that it
 is
 misused by designers who presumably don't like the look of it. Its like
 saying I don't like the letter A because visually it doesn't say a
 to
 me.

 The symbol is a standard. Power as such does not have any visual component
 so the world has agreed on a fairly easily recognizable symbol and people
 have just learned the meaning of it.

 The symbol consists of a 1 which means on state and a 0 that means
 off state. If the 1 is inside a 0 it means toggle on/off. The symbol
 you describe is the standby symbol. You may of course invent your own, but
 if you are going to use the power symbol, please use it correctly. Check
 wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_symbol

 Morten



 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Shaun Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Interesting.
  Unless I was designing something with the understanding that my ENTIRE
  audience was comprised of electrical engineers, I doubt I would think
 this
  is a very good design.
  Which brings me back to 'How did this awful thing get to be so
 widespread
  and popular?
  Was there a particular product that used it once, way back in the dark
  ages,
  that injected it's branding and just beat the world population into
  understanding that this means power?
 
  On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:43 PM, William Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
From electrical engineering. Its a closed circuit.
  
   will evans
   user experience architect
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   617.281.1281
  
  
   On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Shaun Bergmann
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
A discussion came up at the office today that got me wondering.
Do any of you know the history of the 'Power' Icon?  You know the
one:  The
circle with the vertical bar pointing up and overlapping the top
edge of the
circle.
   
This icon was being incorporated into an interface and the argument
was made
that not everybody is going to know what that icon means
   
That's totally possible. If anything stands out as a good example of
the
statement that there are no intuitive interfaces -- all interfaces
 are
   

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA in flyover territory?

2008-02-27 Thread Fred Beecher
I live in Minneapolis, and I can confirm that we do indeed have a thriving
interactive community here. We have a few product/industrial design firms,
which is probably as close as you'll get to doing pure IxD here. But we do
have a number of interactive agencies  consultancies doing the whole range
of UX research  design activities. These places are almost always looking
for people to fill additional roles.
Minneapolis is also a Northwest Airlines hub, so we're actually more
fly-through territory than fly-over, really. : )

F.

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:52:59, dave malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While this topic is incredibly US-centric, I guess I'll answer it:
 The short answer is that if you want a midwestern lifestyle, your
 options decrease. But here are cities that I'm pretty sure have some
 good stuff going on:

 Cincinnati
 Austin
 Dallas
 St. Louis
 Minneapolis
 Detroit
 Pittsburgh
 Salt Lake City
 Denver/Boulder

 I'm sure there are more centers in the Central  Mountain Timezones
 (Yes, I realize that Detroit and Pittsburgh are EST).

 -- dave



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