Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-04 Thread Alexis Brion
Hi, I don't like unsophisticated at all, sounds negative to the person. Maybe users don't have experience using a particular application but that does not mean that they are unsophisticated. Novice and unexperienced sounds much better to me... Alex . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-04 Thread Alla Zollers
Thanks everyone! I think I am going to suggest that my director of product describe our users in terms of different levels of literacy as well as perhaps create a few cool descriptions like Catriona mentioned to help us talk about them in short hand. I also agree that I am need to build empathy

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-04 Thread Becky Reed
:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users Thanks everyone! I think I am going to suggest that my director of product describe our users in terms of different levels of literacy as well as perhaps create a few cool descriptions like Catriona mentioned to help us

[IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Alla Zollers
Hi Everyone -- I am having a bit of a terminology problem within my company. Most of the product people and developers like to refer to our users as unsophisticated (a euphemism for dumb). My understanding of the majority of our users is that they are generally of a lower socio-economic level and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Jeff Gimzek
web-challenged ? seriously though, try 'novice' personas almost always help, IMHO jd On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Alla Zollers wrote: Hi Everyone -- I am having a bit of a terminology problem within my company. Most of the product people and developers like to refer to our users as

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Catriona Lohan-Conway
this is an interesting option - depends on the context ;-) http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1418715 There are many different types of computer users out there; here is a list of the better known ones and descriptions on each. Joe Sixpack - Owns a computer, but doesn't use it very

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Sarah Kampman
There's nothing necessarily wrong with the term unsophisticated, though new or novice might be more neutral. However, it sounds as if the developers product folks in your organization have a specific perception of the typical end-user that no new phrase is going to change. If it's important to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Katie Albers
Naive? It's used fairly often in a variety of contexts to describe any group of people who are unacquainted with the basics of whatever you are discussing. At 11:15 AM -0700 6/3/08, Alla Zollers wrote: Hi Everyone -- I am having a bit of a terminology problem within my company. Most of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Becky Reed
PROTECTED] Subject: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users Hi Everyone -- I am having a bit of a terminology problem within my company. Most of the product people and developers like to refer to our users as unsophisticated (a euphemism for dumb). My understanding of the majority of our users

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Tim Goldsmith
I have used 'novice' --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Katie Albers lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Katie Albers lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users To: Alla Zollers lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 4:03 PM Naive? It's used

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Itamar Medeiros
I personally think that, in the end of the day, is not just about just being politically correct when talking about the users (well... being respectful and polite is always nice!), but also about communicating clearly their background, needs and intentions. I'd go with Becky checklist to start,