Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Lucena, Ivan ha scritto: > I just got the latest issue of Dr. Dobbs Magazine with this cover-page > article "South American Software Development": > > http://www.ddj.com/architect/205600791;jsessionid=AXESE4MZSIY54QSNDLPCKHSCJUNN2JVN > > > This article is more focused on Brazil than anywhere el

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-08 Thread Lucena, Ivan
Paolo, I just got the latest issue of Dr. Dobbs Magazine with this cover-page article "South American Software Development": http://www.ddj.com/architect/205600791;jsessionid=AXESE4MZSIY54QSNDLPCKHSCJUNN2JVN This article is more focused on Brazil than anywhere else in South America. It give

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-08 Thread mike
Paolo Cavallini wrote: What I really miss on Terra* is the community: I tried several times to contact it, especially to help having updated debian packages, but never get a repy, something unusual for open projects. All the best. pc There is a message forum at http://phorum.dpi.inpe.br/ind

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Lucena, Ivan ha scritto: > I believe that TerraLib would deserve a better "technical look" than > what I did but my initial impression was very favorable. What impress me > the most was the raster-on-rdbms support. ... > Talking about integration with other OSGeo projects I believe that the > curr

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-07 Thread Lucena, Ivan
Hi Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wrt the Brazillian TerraLib toolkit mentioned in your paper: - I've had a quick look at the web site. The product appears to be quite mature and functional. - Has anyone from this list had a technical look at the products and like to share their observatio

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-07 Thread Dr. Markus Lupp
Hi Gilberto, Gilberto Camara schrieb: > (Markus) So from my point of view it is possible to compete in the GIS market using an open source business model without any high-level government intervention (although it surely helps) I respectfully disagree. I doubt you could achieve the same succ

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO. Gilberto, > > In 2003, I did a F00S4G market survey and published the > results as a chapter of a US National Academy of Sciences book: > "Open Source GIS Software: Myths and Realities" > . > > We analysed 70 FOSS4G software projects taken from the > FreeGIS list, and divided them into t

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-07 Thread Landon Blake
to do with our CAD work whenever possible. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sampson, David Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:40 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models Just a short response,

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-07 Thread Sampson, David
tracting failed. Just one perspective. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 19:15 To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models Markus wrote: " I have to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-04 Thread Luis W. Sevilla
Hi Gilberto (and list), only a couple of notes Gilberto Camara wrote: > Dear OSGEO Discussion List members: > > Paul Ramsey´s remarks are right on target. > > First, GIS is a large arena and there are > different motivations for developers, that > prevent them from joining a single project su

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Landon Blake
ndon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Markus Lupp Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:03 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models Gilberto and all, I would like to give some comments on this from the pe

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Dr. Markus Lupp
Gilberto and all, I would like to give some comments on this from the perspective of a GIS company with an Open Source business model, I hope you will find them of interest. lat/lon was founded in the year 2000 as a private company (in Germany) and had from its beginning an open source busin

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Landon Blake
Gilberto wrote: "...Individual-led software (a small team of 1-3 people) have less quality and more mortality than the above." I think OpenJUMP might be an example of the opposite case. In this situation the less-than-ideal management of a FOSS GIS program by a private company led to a fork. The

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Landon Blake
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:20 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models Gilberto Camara wrote: > For the FOSS4G effort to be fruitful and sustainable, &g

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Landon Blake
anuary 03, 2008 9:09 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models Xen is one of those things where the market is SO DAMN HUGE that even the very SMALL proportion of money that an open source company can wring from the marketplace is actually non-trivial in an ab

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Gilberto Camara wrote: For the FOSS4G effort to be fruitful and sustainable, we need a very informed and candid assessment of our business model. My personal view, based on 25 years of experience, is that government intervention is essential for the open source model to survive beyond a handful o

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Paul Ramsey
Xen is one of those things where the market is SO DAMN HUGE that even the very SMALL proportion of money that an open source company can wring from the marketplace is actually non-trivial in an absolute sense. If Red Hat is only monetizing 0.01% of the Linux marketplace, that's still fine,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:26:51AM -0500, Lucena, Ivan wrote: > Hi all, > > I am *not* going to disagree with Andrea, Gilberto, Paul, Howard or > anybody else. I just want to point out a interesting open source > business model that is making a big impact this days. I am talking about > Xen [ht

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Lucena, Ivan
Hi all, I am *not* going to disagree with Andrea, Gilberto, Paul, Howard or anybody else. I just want to point out a interesting open source business model that is making a big impact this days. I am talking about Xen [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen]. I keep reading news and more news abou