mortslim wrote:
I don't undertand what the sd card slot is for on the controller. The
controller seems too bulky (compared to the state of the art from ipod,
sirius, sandisk, creative, etc.) to be a portable mp3 player.
And is logitech really going to allow recording to sd cards of
benthos wrote:
Does Logitech's Harmony remote work with the Squeezebox, or can it be
made to work with the Squeezebox? If so, I'm not sure why anyone would
pay twice as much for the Duet controller, especially if the Harmony
remote can control other devices.
I have a Harmony remote. It's
MelonMonkey wrote:
If you're looking at Digikey for prices, then you're obviously not
really building in volume. 500 unit counts are what you'd buy if you
were building stuff by hand at home.
As an example, if something retails for $200 through normal
distribution/retail channels, it's not a
Does anyone know how much power the Reciever uses in both standby and
while playing music?
Regards
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http://www.wifisound.nl/catalog/slimdevicessqueezeboxsilverwhite-p-160.html?language=EN
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dean blackketter;254747 Wrote:
Folks have been asking
for a couple of new products from us for a while: a less expensive
Squeezebox and a remote with a display. We did that.
This is indeed an exciting product. However, I am one of the folks who
clamors for a less expensive way to
Well, I think the less expensive unit is a good idea and the new unit
looks sleek. For me I'll still need to look for alternative display
mechanisms for displaying artwork etc on TV. I don't really see a need
for the remote either when I've already got a web browser and a
separate Jive build on
thing-fish wrote:
dean blackketter;254747 Wrote:
Folks have been asking
for a couple of new products from us for a while: a less expensive
Squeezebox and a remote with a display. We did that.
This is indeed an exciting product. However, I am one of the folks who
clamors for a
JimC;255106 Wrote:
You don't have to move the Squeezebox Controller from room-to-room.
It's an 802.11g wireless device that allows you to control all of the
Squeezebox players (sliMP3, SB2/3, TP, and the new SB Receiver) from
anywhere you have a connection to your access point. I can
Ive read somewhere, that like the SB3, the Controller is always on.
With my SB3, however, I can at least switch it off at the mains at the
end of day or when it isnt being used for an extended period.
Does this mean that the controller cant be switched off at all?
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I’ve read somewhere, that like the SB3, the Controller is always on.
With my SB3, however, I can at least switch it off at the mains at the
end of day or when it isn’t being used for an extended period.
Does this mean that the controller can’t be switched off at all?
Yes it
The reciever is always on... appart from when you pull the plug :)
The remote us usually on, and goes into power save when not in use (the
accelerometer wakes it up when you pick it up, very cool). You can
switch it off though. The home button acts as a power button as well.
Holding it down will
Peter;255447 Wrote:
thing-fish wrote:
This is indeed an exciting product. However, I am one of the folks
who
clamors for a less expensive way to access my music collection stored
in
the Slimserver Ecosystem. As I see it, this is not actually chaper:
$399 for the Duet is *more* than
Peter;255447 Wrote:
thing-fish wrote:[color=blue]
I can definitely see myself sitting in a deck chair on the roof terrace
with a headphone on and a controller in my shirt pocket. I hop they
activate there feature before summer :)
And having the sound disappear because the battery runs
Peter;255463 Wrote:
smg wrote:
Ive read somewhere, that like the SB3, the Controller is always on.
With my SB3, however, I can at least switch it off at the mains at
the
end of day or when it isnt being used for an extended period.
Does this mean that the controller cant be
Paul Webster;255465 Wrote:
And having the sound disappear because the battery runs flat after 40
minutes of streaming will be a good reminder to get back into the shade
;)
Maybe if there was a mechanism to stream at superhigh speed and store
30MB in the device and switch off the wifi for
PaulR;255470 Wrote:
Was the 40 minute figure a (sarcastic or otherwise!) guess or is it
quoted somewhere? If it was a guess I'd be really interested to know
what the actual figure will be. This functionality is only really
useful if the streaming battery life is more than about 3 hours IMO.
I have a router and a wap setup using the same SSID in bridging mode.
I wonder if danco's solution would fix my issue where the SB2 switches
from the nearby AP to the original router. In doing so the signal
strength drops from ~90% to 50%.
In MAC filtering, I can specifically deny MAC single
Paul Webster;255472 Wrote:
Certainly wasn't sarcastic. It was based on what I achieve when
streaming over wifi while walking around the house using a Nokia 770 or
Nokia N95 - and .. a vague recollection of seeing a mention of that sort
of figure in the beta forum (pre-optimisation though).
dean blackketter;254747 Wrote:
The Controller uses its built-in 802.11g wireless to talk to
SqueezeCenter and/or SqueezeNetwork as an alternative way to control
your Squeezeboxen or Transporter and has nice 2.4 display and enough
buttons to navigate and play your music on your other
I can't find the comment about battery life while streaming to the
Controller - so maybe I have misremembered.
Perhaps bpa (or others) have some figures from when the sound output
was possible.
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Pokersut;255479 Wrote:
Will Duet only talk to SqueezeCenter, or is it compatible with
SlimServer as well? Since the Receiver is said to be essentially an
SB3 without display, I am hoping it is compatible.
The new remote (Squeezebox Controller) will only work with
SqueezeCenter 7.
It may be
mflint;255481 Wrote:
It may be that the SB Receiver will work with 6.5 (anyone?) but you'd
then have to control it via the web interface...
or sync it to another Squeezbox ... or use Shadow Play to control it
via a regular remote talking through another Squeezebox .., or use
PDA/mobile
It may be that the SB Receiver will work with 6.5 (anyone?) but you'd
then have to control it via the web interface...
No Receiver won't work with SS6. It will not even work with the current trunk
of SC7, but will need some changes made in a private branch.
Michael
bhaagensen;255342 Wrote:
[...] they have to start somewhere. They could have offered a client for
e.g. the iphone, n800 and symbian, but multiplatform developement takes
more time, [...]. Moreover the entire platform is open, so anyone is
free to create a better and cheaper solution, or
Greg Friedman;255246 Wrote:
Had the controller debuted with a $150 price tag, I would have easily
justified the purchase. At $299 it doesn't make sense to me.
Me, too. I'm really disappointed. I already have an SB3 and the new
remote is just what I'm looking for - but not at this price.
Rick B.;255500 Wrote:
Me, too. I'm really disappointed. I already have an SB3 and the new
remote is just what I'm looking for - but not at this price.
I must confess Im a little disappointed in the Duet as an existing
user. If starting from scratch I can see its a great piece of kit but
as
Pat Farrell wrote:
MelonMonkey wrote:
Now how about a discount for loyal forum participants? :)
Isn't this the same as asking for a pony?
Hey, it's worked for me in the past...
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Peter;254876 Wrote:
ModelCitizen wrote:
Phil Meyer;254852 Wrote:
What's the main benefits of the SqueezeBox Controller over a PDA?The
interface is much slicker and much, much more responsive than the
web gui. The web gui is very clunky and slow in comparison (or it is
on
Paul Webster;255478 Wrote:
I can't find the comment about battery life while streaming to the
Controller - so maybe I have misremembered.
Perhaps bpa (or others) have some figures from when the sound output
was possible.
I just left my Nokia 770 streaming - playing back through internal
I also already have a SB3 and would like to have a remote like in the
Duet - but it does seem very expensive for what it will add to my
setup. Shame.
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I think its a shame that the IR Blaster port has been removed.
That would be very useful to switch power on an amp (and control the
volume). So the whole thing could be hidden in a cabinet. Only the
controller would be visible.
Regards,
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Hi all,
I have been using the Slimserver for some time now and is
very happy with it. Its fast - and the sound quality with my
SB3 and the flac music files is awesome.
Now, I would like to give one of my best friends the possibility
to use and listen to all the good music I have on my server.
Frank - this might be the basis for solving the The problem...
SELECT
IF ( LEFT( title, 4)='The ', SUBSTRING(artist FROM 4), artist ) AS
artist_sort_name
FROM table
ORDER BY artist_sort_name
or something like that...
I'll try it later - my MySql is not strong.
regards
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Just to let you know that we are aware of some audio quality issues on
the BBC Radio 2 stream. We hope to have a fix for it shortly.
In terms of RalphO's issues - that's not related; some programming is
unavailable online for rights reasons.
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And, as I write that, a message comes through...
At approximately 13:30, engineers isolated cabling issues on the
signal ingest into the audio routing/switching matrix. Radio 2's audio
has been moved to a spare ingest port on the matrix (using a different
patch port).
Which is possibly speak
GCFL;254822 Wrote:
Please forgive me if this is posted in the incorrect location. I am
currently running four zones via a Zon audio system in my home. I am
seriously considering purchasing the Duet and plugging it in as one of
the music sources so I can access streaming Internet radio,
All,
Having digested this information for a while I wanted to poll your
various opinions on some of the points below...
1. The Duet (and individual components) seem really nice and well
featured - however, surely this is a me-too initiative, trying to
keep up with Sonos? Good to do, but should
mkozlows;254739 Wrote:
If someone says Wow, $300 is steep for a remote, telling them how
many MIPS it has isn't going to change their mind.
I'm kind of missing the point also -- what does all that tech *do*?
It's a remote for my squeezebox that has a nice display and can show
album art.
I'm in the it's too expensive camp as well. I think what's happened to
many of us is that we feel we've been offered a $300 remote control for
our SB3s and Transporters and clearly that's a lot of money for a
dedicated remote control (i.e., not a universal). No offense to SD,
but the initial
I think that's so that the headphone jack will eventually be usable.
On Jan 7, 2008 9:52 AM, FatElvis2000
And why does it have a DAC?
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I agree with another poster who noted that this device is optimized
for its task as a remote, versus the other options (PSP, Nokia,
iPhone, etc) which can do it, but may not be as good at it.
The new controller is probably not intended for those who are already
happy with their PSPs or Nokias or
The controller does have an IR emitter.
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I also had the error 0 return, after setting up mysql successfuly. I
ran the album catalogue program in it's original zipped format from my
desktop and it worked. Maybe that is a clue as to the real problem.
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andyg;255535 Wrote:
The controller does have an IR emitter.
That's interesting -- I did not see that anywhere in the specs. Still,
the emitter does little good if we cannot program the remote for our
equipment. Will that be possible?
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I think the sticker shock is less pronounced if you think of it starting
from scratch with a multi room setup in mind. All of you with 3 or 4
SB3's have equal capability at almost the same cost.
In thinking through the target audience for the duet, I am not sure
that SD has yet hit the nail on
The real issue is that SD's business model is to give away the server
and charge for the player. I would guess from a market perspective
that a player is a player and the fact that the SB/Transporter are
probably better audio components is lost on the majority of folks
buying these products.
sbjaerum;21 Wrote:
There is currently a test applet that makes it possible to control
SB/Transporter using the IR emitter on the Controller.
I am sure it is possible to extend on that so that the Controller will
act as a universal IR remote.
Adding just some simple IR learning would be
stevek1006;255548 Wrote:
That's interesting -- I did not see that anywhere in the specs. Still,
the emitter does little good if we cannot program the remote for our
equipment. Will that be possible?
There is currently a test applet that makes it possible to control
SB/Transporter using the
FatElvis2000;255542 Wrote:
I'm kind of missing the point also -- what does all that tech *do*?
It's a remote for my squeezebox that has a nice display and can show
album art. Right? What am I missing?
It's a remote for all of your Squeeze devices that lets you control
them from anywhere in
stevek1006;255548 Wrote:
That's interesting -- I did not see that anywhere in the specs. Still,
the emitter does little good if we cannot program the remote for our
equipment. Will that be possible?
If someone writes an extension to the software to let you do it. This
someone may be Logitec,
Somehow I've managed to mess up both (2 Squeezeboxes) playlist formats
in the browser interface. The playlist format on the SqueezeBoxes is
correct (TRACKNUM. TITLE - ALBUM - ARTIST) but the browser playlist is
displaying 1 from ALBUM by ARTIST.
I had thought that the formatting for the
Would it be possible to extend the functionality to include the ability
to use album artist/band tag where the album is a compilation - in a
similar way how SS does it right now?
thks
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The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will
improve. DVD performance
Kyle;254969 Wrote:
Wow! This looks great! Any way to get a complete tutorial on getting
this to work with SB 6.5*? Phil, is your post (8:02 today) fairly
complete on everything that needs to be done?
It should really be that easy as installing the ODBC driver and than
run the script. For
earthbased;255515 Wrote:
Harmony integration?
Now that I would buy!
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How will a transporter owner shift between a digital input or SC
without being conected to SC or SN. Or Controll volume etc.
With the digital ins it's possible to use transporter as a dac/preamp
without being connected to anything ?
An ir applet is much needed for that otherwise you need two
slimkid;255560 Wrote:
Would it be possible to extend the functionality to include the ability
to use album artist/band tag where the album is a compilation - in a
similar way how SS does it right now?
thks
Sure. That is the change that Phil (with code snippet) has done and how
it should
If my SB3 fails to conect to SN for some reason, isnt that a catch22 how
do i piont it back SC (my computer) with the Controller ? do I have to
bring forth the old remote or can future versions of SC7 take over from
the serverside (i'm at 6.5.4 myself)
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I've recently been plagued by bug 4354. So much so that my Squeezeboxes
were nearly useless, stopping, occasional dropouts and occasional
static bursts but the stopping was the worst. I wasn't getting more
than a few songs before the player would stop and for a time stopping
on just about every
thomsens;23 Wrote:
It would probably be ideal for someone to build a plug-in to provide
DLNA client support off of SC.
SC (and SlimServer) is can already act as UPnP client ... isn't that
the same as DLNA.
It doesn't expose the full functionality of SC but it does mean that
you can select
A power outlet and some powered speakers with the remote in its cradle
may well be an outdoor hit though.
Yes, I agree.
Logitech sells quite good portable speakers with iPod dock. It should
be easy to adopt them to Squeezebox Controller.
Logitech should have this option available right at the
Best thing seems to be to try it and see if it works.
Being able to deny an individual address, rather than having to allow
the addresses you want omitting the one you don't want, makes it a lot
easier.
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thomsens;255541 Wrote:
No offense to SD, but the initial explanation of it cost us a lot to
build, so it has to cost that much for you. Plus, we'll do the basic
stuff to make the remote control work, but enabling the extra hw will
be your responsibility to take care of comes off as a little
Frank - cracked the The problem...
two blocks of code changes:
1):
sQBase = select IF ( LEFT( contributors.name, 4)='The ',
SUBSTRING(contributors.name FROM 5), contributors.name) AS sort_name,
_
CONVERT(contributors.name USING utf8) as
artist,CONVERT(albums.title USING utf8) as
CES starts today (I believe) and that is a very important platform for
launching new product, hence the timing.
I'm sure SD and Logitech decided to launch with the functionality that
is currently reliable.
Bear in mind that launch and shop availability can be some months
apart, and that in the
Paul Webster;255576 Wrote:
SC (and SlimServer) is can already act as UPnP client ... isn't that the
same as DLNA.
It doesn't expose the full functionality of SC but it does mean that
you can select music off your UPnP server using the SB remote.
I think people are looking for it to be a
The specs list Apple Lossless as a supported format, and don't mention
transcoding. Does this mean that ALAC is now supported natively? I'd
love to have FFWD/REW support for Apple Lossless (drat iTunes for not
supporting FLAC).
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Seems pretty nice, but I am wondering if it is an upgrade to a guy like
me. I use my SB2 with a Nokia N770. I have the SB2 plugged into my
stereo in the family room and I use the IR remote when sitting in the
family room. I can switch the music to outside spreakers and use the
N770 when I am
I'm looking forward to the Squeezebox Controller.
It has now topped my birthday wish-list.
Good stuff.
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Paul Webster;255511 Wrote:
I just left my Nokia 770 streaming - playing back through internal
speaker. Most of the time it was close to the access point (so should
be less battery use) but about 30 minutes was near the limit of its
reception area. Result - about 1h50m streaming.
It'll also
Thanks James. Glad it was at your end ;-)
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I think the main advantage of the SBC over the N770 is that the SBC is
supposed to be much faster and more responsive than the current web
interface is. If you're happy with the N770, however, then I think
you'd be better off buying the SB3.
On Jan 7, 2008 11:28 AM, Zten
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Skunk;255212 Wrote:
I should have went back and re-read your post before responding because
the form factor comments are relevant and not likely to change after
beta. Honestly I didn't remember who's post he was talking about, and
only meant to point out that it can't really be judged fairly
Or one can always have the music transcoded to a lower bitrate for the
SBC, since presumably it won't be used for audiophile-type listening
anyway. Of course, you'd lose FF/RW, but that may be worth it.
On Jan 7, 2008 11:28 AM, CardinalFang
One solution would be to to stick a big SD card in the
I can report a *little* progress on this (I think).
I downloaded the beta version of SlimServer (now called SqueezeCenter)
to my PC (version 7.0) from
http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/7.0/ and connected
both my squeezeboxes to it. I didn't encounter the problem from 7.0
Mitch Harding;255620 Wrote:
Or one can always have the music transcoded to a lower bitrate for the
SBC, since presumably it won't be used for audiophile-type listening
anyway. Of course, you'd lose FF/RW, but that may be worth it.
But you would still be streaming OTA, which drains the
Hi,
I have bought a few SqueezeBox units, and plan to use them in a
controlled environment. I want to serve music from Windows Media
Server, but want to monitor/log which songs each Squeezebox plays. Is
there any way to do it? Through some authentication? Or IP tracking?
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slimkid;255560 Wrote:
Would it be possible to extend the functionality to include the ability
to use album artist/band tag where the album is a compilation - in a
similar way how SS does it right now?
thks
I just posted Release candidate 1 on http://www.vanholt.nl/acc/acc.htm
(i think it
Don't know if I have any clues but I'm having the exact same issues as
you with both shoutcast and wave plugin not working on my XP machine.
I've had the shoutcast solution working in the past if I went thru the
softsqueeze interface and both the emulator and SB3 would work but that
hard drive
That's an improvement. I actually have never been happy with the
response time using the N770. I think I have just gotten used to it.
Some skins seem worse than others in terms of responsiveness... Is the
SBC as responsive as the IR remote?
I found some more pictures of the SBC on the web and I
seanadams;255218 Wrote:
The receiver supports ethernet or wireless. The controller has only
wireless.
However, if the receiver is wired then it is possible to use the system
without an access point, because the receiver can provide the wireless
connectivity for the controller.
How do you
Phil Leigh;255590 Wrote:
Frank - cracked the The problem...
two blocks of code changes:
1):
sQBase = select IF ( LEFT( contributors.name, 4)='The ',
SUBSTRING(contributors.name FROM 5), contributors.name) AS sort_name,
_
CONVERT(contributors.name USING utf8) as
SilverRS8;255628 Wrote:
Hi Phil,
Very good job done!! I look into it later and do some testing but very
good to know that it can be done in a query. Personally i'm still
strugling if I like 'The' to be stripped or not when sorting because I
think I will look for bands at the 'T' when
Mnyb;255569 Wrote:
If my SB3 fails to conect to SN for some reason, isnt that a catch22 how
do i piont it back SC (my computer) with the Controller ? do I have to
bring forth the old remote or can future versions of SC7 take over from
the serverside (i'm at 6.5.4 myself)
The Controller is a
radish;255595 Wrote:
I think people are looking for it to be a uPnP server rather than
client.
Yes - I don't know the terminology, but I thought the context would
make it more obvious. Slimserver should serve Rokus and the
like...whatever functionality that is. That way, my AV receiver, my
Here's one from CES 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khM1DVTd-MA
Any other videos out there? Post'em here!
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I still do not understand the SD pathway.
For quite some time I have held off buying more SB(3)s as while I
considered them excellent technically, I felt they had become rather
over priced. I was hoping the morphing with Logitech's people would
reduce the hardware cost of these machines.
Now
Zten;255634 Wrote:
That's an improvement. I actually have never been happy with the
response time using the N770. I think I have just gotten used to it.
Some skins seem worse than others in terms of responsiveness... Is the
SBC as responsive as the IR remote?
It seems responsive enough for
Any reason why the new devices aren't 802.11n draft 2.0 compliant. With
most n routers, mixing g and n clients slows the whole network down. I
bet there are lots of people like me who would be relying on wifi for
the multi-room setups. It would be nice to have the higher speed and
lower risk of
We're using the mailing list - which means the posting is sent withing seconds
;-)
And is permanent. Irrespective of when you delete the message from visibility
in the forum, we will always get the message on the mailing list. I wouldn't
bother deleting posts - it's only confusing when people
IRJ;255651 Wrote:
I still do not understand the SD pathway.
For quite some time I have held off buying more SB(3)s as while I
considered them excellent technically, I felt they had become rather
over priced. I was hoping the morphing with Logitech's people would
reduce the hardware cost
IRJ wrote:
Now they issue a new SB, the SBR, for an excellent $150.00. I became
excited that I could pair with my original SBs and continue to control
them all with my WiFi. Although some seem to think this is clunky, I
find it highly satisfactory. But Nope! To conrol an SBR one needs the
To control an SBR one needs the new $250.00 controller so going the new
route would cost me $400.00 for one extra SB(R).
Hopefully, this will quickly be addressed by Logitech or by the
community. I cannot imagine a reason the controller could not be setup
by plugging a PC to the Ethernet port.
IRJ;255651 Wrote:
I do not understand why the new SBR hasn't been enabled to be controlled
by WiFi, to give users and especially long standing costomers a choice.
That's because it *is* enabled to be controlled by wifi. At the present
time you need the Controller for initial configuration of
Hi!
it seems everyone is really interested in the controller. Me however,
is more interested in the sound quality. How does this new little black
box called the Receiver fare against the ol' SB3 in terms of sound
quality using the built-in DAC's (Wolfson vs BB)? And why did you go
with Wolfson
thing-fish;255454 Wrote:
If someone in the family is going to be the designated DJ that is OK,
but if you want different music in multiple rooms controlled by the
occupants of the rooms, you're in multiple $299 controller land.
Fortunately there's still the SB3 for that configuration.
SilverRS8;255628 Wrote:
Personally i'm still strugling if I like 'The' to be stripped or not
when sorting because I think I will look for bands at the 'T' when
searching for e.g. 'The Killers'. Maybe other thread readers can give
their opinion on this too?
Caveat - I have a lot of
nicky6;255670 Wrote:
the controller is derived from the Useless DJ BadSound system ;)
I've seen this come up before. Let me answer: no, no, NO.
There is not a single line of code in the Squeezebox controller shared
with the Logitech Wireless DJ. The Squeezebox controller is engineered
nicky6;255670 Wrote:
Hi!
it seems everyone is really interested in the controller. Me however,
is more interested in the sound quality. How does this new little black
box called the Receiver fare against the ol' SB3 in terms of sound
quality using the built-in DAC's (Wolfson vs BB)? And
Would it be possible to stream from home using a hooked up cell
phone/wifi connection ? Wham/ABBA in glorious Lossless ? (using
headphones into the non working jack of course).
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