Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-11 Thread mik63
I have had the same situation for months and no serious attempt from Logitech to troubleshoot it. There is no reason why a wireless SB3 that is 20ft. from the server in the same room, away from any microwave or wireless phone, on a wireless channel that no other Wifi are using in or around your

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-11 Thread slwiser
spooky;268120 Wrote: In my unexperienced opinion most all the posters are giving good advice especially giving the unit a fixed ip and the initiator of the thread is also correct these units are buggy!! If you haven't tried it yet; do a hard reset: unplug the unit and press the plus(+)

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-11 Thread m1abrams
How has your (OP) hunt for a solution come. Have you tried connecting the SB3 via wired yet? I understand your frustration with people immediately blaming something else. However this is a complex system and many things can cause it issues and all anyone here is trying to do is isolate where

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-11 Thread radish
slwiser;268249 Wrote: I am going to have to do the IP thing I think. I have not done that yet. I may have missed your post, in which case I apologise. But have you tried it with a cable? -- radish radish's Profile:

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-11 Thread spooky
In my unexperienced opinion most all the posters are giving good advice especially giving the unit a fixed ip and the initiator of the thread is also correct these units are buggy!! If you haven't tried it yet; do a hard reset: unplug the unit and press the plus(+) button on the remote while

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-11 Thread Pat Farrell
mik63 wrote: There is no reason why a wireless SB3 that is 20ft. from the server in the same room, away from any microwave or wireless phone, on a wireless channel that no other Wifi are using in or around your house Have you run kismet on your network? Grantd, I'd just hook up an ethernet

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-11 Thread radish
mik63;268247 Wrote: There is no reason why a wireless SB3 that is 20ft. from the server in the same room, away from any microwave or wireless phone, on a wireless channel that no other Wifi are using in or around your house, while nobody else is using the wireless but the SB3, with the

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread smc2911
Do you have the same problems if you connect the SB to your router with an ether net cable? Wifi is a remarkably troublesome protocol, with a lot of variation in performance/behaviour across different makes of router (and SB has to try an accommodate as many of these as possible). Is your router

[slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
I have done everything I can think of to get my SB working so that it does not stop randomly on the wireless end. All I want is a simple feed that is reliable and the SB3 is not. A simple stable feed that where I can listen without having to keep it working by doing resets of the audio chip,

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
For heavens sake calm down. We are trying to help. The SB is almost certainly NOT the problem. Have you run the network test? What bandwidth are you getting? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU -

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread bpa
Why is transcoding needed when I use native format for the SB3? You never said what you were using - so all we can do is guess what may be a problem. For examp[le although WMA is supported it is only the lossy version, if you are using WMA lossless then transcoding is needed. How about

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
Phil Leigh;267644 Wrote: For heavens sake calm down. We are trying to help. The SB is almost certainly NOT the problem. Have you run the network test? What bandwidth are you getting? 4000 at 100% then it starts down below 100%. Signal strength between 85 an 60%. 20 feet away from an

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread bpa
Connection with a wire is only a test to isolate the problem - it is not the long term solution. Some servers (i.e. NAS) are underpowered when user have formats that need transcoding and so you get a stop/start playing. -- bpa

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
smc2911;267632 Wrote: Do you have the same problems if you connect the SB to your router with an ether net cable? Wifi is a remarkably troublesome protocol, with a lot of variation in performance/behaviour across different makes of router (and SB has to try an accommodate as many of these as

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread bpa
Did you test with a wired connection to confirm the problem is with the wifi and not the server ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread:

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
bpa;267640 Wrote: Connection with a wire is only a test to isolate the problem - it is not the long term solution. Some servers (i.e. NAS) are underpowered when user have formats that need transcoding and so you get a stop/start playing. I did not understand this post. What is NAS? Why

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Mnyb
I had problems for months with 6.5.4 it never ran stable on my WIN XP machine. I realy tried everything regards network. The support is parroting the it is your network mantra for about 4 weeks before you get anywhere My remedy in the end was: In order of importance SC7.0 (uppgrade to latest

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread mapatton
slwiser;267648 Wrote: 4000 at 100% then it starts down below 100%. Signal strength between 85 an 60%. 20 feet away from router. FLAC files. I have a Lynksys WRT45GS working with version 4.70.6 firmware. I have upgraded the SB3 firmware to 86. I am using the new SqueezeCenter

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Actually, before we go any further you need to eliminate the wi-fi completely from being the problem. Bear in mind that wi-fi is about as flaky as technology gets right now! Can you wire the SB directly to the server and see if it works fine - just as a test. If this works then the wi-fi (or

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
Phil Leigh;267651 Wrote: OK good. Sounds like the network is basically OK. What about the server PC? any sign of CPU spikes? Intel duo-core running 2.4 gHz with 4 gigs of main memory where only 3.2 is usable. Dell XPS 210 computer. 500 GB internal hard drive where files are located. No

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
autopilot;267659 Wrote: Personally, i dont know why people bother to help people that would write a title like that and respond to peoples offer of help in such a manor. The 'most people have no problems, but i do so therefore the product sucks' attitude and just flipping on people that try

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
OK good. Sounds like the network is basically OK. What about the server PC? any sign of CPU spikes? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
Summary so far is that I have a whole lot more to look at than the support ever attempted to suggest. It seems that most of the things that I have done are in line with what has been suggested. I just need to go through them more closely to see if anything else is in these post to check on that

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread autopilot
Delete me. -- autopilot SLIMSERVER:[/B] 7.0 APLHA (WINDOWS XP) + ALIENBBC, SLIMSCROBBLER LAST.FM. *AMP:* CAMBRIDGE AUDIO 640A (LIVING ROOM) / DENON MD30 (BEDROOM). *SPEAKERS:* MISSION 701'S (LIVING ROOM) / KEF CRESTA 1'S (BEDROOM). *REMOTE:* T-MOBILE MDA VARIO / HARMONY 525 (IR) / *BETA

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread bpa
You can set a fixed IP address and if it outside the range of your DHCP server, then it will not affect the other wireless devices. Personally, I think you should try the wired SB test first to isolate the problem to wifi or not. All you need to do is carry SB3 to the router, wire it in and use

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
What devices do you have apart from the SB, Router and Server PC? is ANYTHING else connected to your network? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread bobkoure
slwiser;267662 Wrote: Answer me this: Is it possible to setup a fixed IP for SB and let everything else float? Absolutely. -Assuming- your W45G is your DHCP server, just look at that box to see what range the server is assigning to DHCP clients. Also assuming a class C network (192.168.1.NNN)

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
slwiser;267662 Wrote: It is just that the solution is always someone else's problem and not what is not workingthis is frustration at work for my part for sure. This has been going on for a long time. I got my unit back in Nov and have yet to have a stable SB. The almost mythical

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Peter
slwiser wrote: Is the Squeezebox ideal just a pipe dream or is there another vendor's music streamer that works? I wish some of the forum users would stop using immature inflammatory topic titles... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
Peter;267683 Wrote: slwiser wrote: Is the Squeezebox ideal just a pipe dream or is there another vendor's music streamer that works? I wish some of the forum users would stop using immature inflammatory topic titles... Regards, Peter Moderator just remove the last part of

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
Phil Leigh;267671 Wrote: just set the sb and server outside of the DHCP range. Yes, my DHCP server has a range reserved already and it would be easy to select something outside that range BUT: How is this done? setting the SB IP address. I checked in SqueezeCenter and found no place for

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread MuckleEck
Phil Leigh;267671 Wrote: yes that is what I do - fixed ip for the sb and the server, DHCP for everything else. I find this avoids some problems. Your router will let you set the DHCP range - just set the sb and server outside of the DHCP range. You shopuld do this before we go any

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
slwiser;267695 Wrote: Yes, my DHCP server has a range reserved already and it would be easy to select something outside that range BUT: How is this done? setting the SB IP address. I checked in SqueezeCenter and found no place for this option. It's not in SC...do it on the player

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread Craig
Why bother reconfiguring the whole network?, just do the cable test as others have suggested then people will be able to help you get it working. Craig -- Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread bobkoure
I'm pretty sure you're talking about DHCP reservations. Go into your W45 with your browser - just put the address of the W in your browser address bar. It's -probably- 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1. You will be asked for a password. Being a Linksys, the default is -probably- admin/admin or

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread jsprag
slwiser;267629 Wrote: They are no other wireless signals going on right now in my area so there is no interference. I am up early and no one in the house or neighborhood this is not the reason for the unit stopping. Therefore, it must be the unit or the fault in the design of the music

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread gbruzzo
Poorly implemented pipe dream is a little extreme... -- gbruzzo gbruzzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread jsprag
Peter;267683 Wrote: I wish some of the forum users would stop using immature inflammatory topic titles... Regards, Peter Now *that's* a pipe dream -- jsprag jsprag's Profile:

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread mapatton
slwiser;267662 Wrote: It is just that the solution is always someone else's problem and not what is not workingthis is frustration at work for my part for sure. This has been going on for a long time. I got my unit back in Nov and have yet to have a stable SB. The almost mythical

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread slwiser
Phil Leigh;267706 Wrote: It's not in SC...do it on the player settings via the remote Will the router automatically find the SQ with the new IP this way? I thought the router controlled access not the device itself? -- slwiser

Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?

2008-02-10 Thread radish
slwiser;267892 Wrote: Will the router automatically find the SQ with the new IP this way? I thought the router controlled access not the device itself? On a local network the router isn't doing anything, the devices are responsible for knowing their own IP addresses and communicating with