[slim] Re: Unicode troubles
* aix shaped the electrons to say... I would appreciate any suggestions for troubleshooting this particular album as it might shed some light on what's going on in the rest of the library. Could you open a bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ and attach one of the files in question to it? Thanks. -D -- all your base class are belong to us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Unicode troubles
Thanks for the suggestion. To make things more manageable, I am focussing in on one album. All files in the album are in the same format, and all tags are ID3v2. There are no ID3v1 tags. Character encoding, both in file names and tags, appears to be consistent. All files contain album, artist and song title tags. Yet some of the song titles are displayed as gibberish in the Web GUI (most songs look OK). When I do a full rescan of the library, album title alternates between correct Cyrillic text and gibberish. I would appreciate any suggestions for troubleshooting this particular album as it might shed some light on what's going on in the rest of the library. -- aix aix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2643 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18806 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem, Can't open File
kdf Wrote: > > > Browse Music Folder will also pickup new files when you navigate into > that folder. > > -kdf That's where the bug was. It would only pick up on songs that "displayed" on the screen, and not all the songs in the folder. You had to scan through the list of songs to make sure they all got written to the db. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18779 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Whole House Audio with Squeezebox
I have six rooms in our house wired with a Niles Audio system that uses the Squeezebox as its source. I have intentionally kept it very simple so the children and my wife can use the system. The the wall mounted controls send commands to the Squeezebox with an IR flasher. Let me know if you want more details. Doug Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Elpac power supply for the SB2
The Elpac WM1005-760 is a linear regulated PSU of wallwart style, 5V/2.0A and runs $25.68 at Allied Electronics. It appears to be set up for "plug & play" with the SB3. -- Old Pa Doing my duty . . . the way *I* see it. Old Pa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16245 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: sometimes slow response from squeezebox
I get sometimes slow remote response using SqueezeNetwork as well as SlimServer. So (it would seem to me definitely) not a server issue. And it is definitely annoying as the original poster said..adjust the volume no response adjust the volume hoLY COW IT'S LOUD TURN OFF TURN OFF oh wait it's off hey wait now it's back on again but stopped. For example. Now packet loss as the CTO mentioned. Well, I am using wireless so seems possible...but if that were the case wouldn't I hear it in the form of dropouts? -- makingmark makingmark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15370 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beware the christmas decorations!
Festive holiday decoration or Faraday cage? YOU be the judge! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How do you add a radio station?
Thanks all... Odd process, use the web interface to tune in, then the remote interface to add to favorites. I'm surprised that with all the focus on streaming radio this ability isn't built into the server and manageable through the web interface. IIRC, you can do this in SqueezeNetwork but if you're running a local server then using SqueezeNetwork for anything at all is just a pain in the butt. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18825 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Undocumented options?
I upgraded the firmware in my router, uninstalled Slimserver, reinstalled the latest 6.2.2 with volume bug fixed, stepped through the network setup carefully on the SB2, upgraded the SB2 firmware and it connected intantly as before. No buzzing this time. :-) I'll explore Internet radio again when I have time to mess with it. Thanks for the help! Jim -- Jim Holtz Jim Holtz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1456 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18822 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How do you add a radio station?
JJZolx Wrote: > Where do I add the URL of a radio station feed so that I can easily > access it? I rub a 24x7 server, so I'm not looking at using > SqueezeNetwork. > > I just loaded the 'Favorites' plugin. There's no indication in the > plugin list what it does, but I suspect it's for something like this. > However, I don't see how to add anything - radio station, playlist, > track, or album to the list. I think you do it via Slim Server. If you go to the web interface, on the left side there is a link for RADIO - click on "Radio Tune In". On the resulting page you can input a URL for the radio station. I've just tried it with the Australian station Triple J http://abc.net.au/streaming/triplej/triplej.m3u It looks like you need to save the resulting playlist and then play the radio station from your playlists. I have just done this & it works. I don't know if there is a way to make it show up under the Internet Radio menu on the SB. [edit] Hmm, seems I was too slow. Presumably you make it a favourite by creating a playlist and then adding that to favourites. -- ianjohnson_nz ianjohnson_nz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1870 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18825 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How do you add a radio station?
snarlydwarf Wrote: > Lazy way: use the 'Radio Tune In' on the web interface and paste the URL > there. Once playing, you can make it a favorite. I'm using the Radio Tune In and I'm pasting. Now how do I make it a favorite? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18825 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do you add a radio station?
Quoting JJZolx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Where do I add the URL of a radio station feed so that I can easily access it? I rub a 24x7 server, so I'm not looking at using SqueezeNetwork. Try "Radio Tune-in" from the home page, or the pulldown in Fishbone skin I expect you can add it to favourites once it is playing, by navigating to track info from now playing (using the remote). -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How do you add a radio station?
Lazy way: use the 'Radio Tune In' on the web interface and paste the URL there. Once playing, you can make it a favorite. Harder way (which I do use sometimes... don't ask why..) is to make a playlist with the station in it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18825 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
dgovan Wrote: > I have about 3500 tracks in 417 folders (1 per album). 60gb disk with > about 5gb taken up with these folders and 17gb free. 512mb ram on xp > home. Processors about 2500 if I remember right. That's *way* too long. Something is broken, like the link loops alluded to earlier. I have a 1.4GHz processor, windows 2000, 512MB, takes about half an hour for almost twice that many tracks. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18651 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How do you add a radio station?
Where do I add the URL of a radio station feed so that I can easily access it? I rub a 24x7 server, so I'm not looking at using SqueezeNetwork. I just loaded the 'Favorites' plugin. There's no indication in the plugin list what it does, but I suspect it's for something like this. However, I don't see how to add anything - radio station, playlist, track, or album to the list. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18825 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
One thing that perhaps hasn't been stated: The web interface should be extended with the multi-level browse command as we defined it for the SB/remote interface. And the Advanced browse should provide for searching all the browsable fields. --- > And if you want to play, say, a Symphony in iTunes then by far > the easiest option is to search by Artist and then Album. Your way of using iTunes seems different than mine. I use the Composer attribute and sort tracks on it, select subsets withe the Browser window and now I'm using the Grouping attribute to associate tracks that make up a work. I hardly ever use the Search function. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Difference
for tip on AlienBBC -- will will's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1058 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18821 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox3 - Complete FREAKOUT & stereo damage warning
FL, Sorry about the trouble. FWIW we have always cautioned against connecting directly to an amp unless levels are appropriately limited on the analog side. Sean -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18818 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Listener Wrote: > Bill> It is fairly common for the tags to be different for tracks > > on one classical CD. ... > > You might be careful to creat a different album name for each > > work but not everyone knows to do that or will make the > > effort. It isn't a safe assumption for SS to make. > > > I'm going to disagree here... I think we have to state the > > asusmption that the music has been tagged correctly, > > which I take to mean with one Album per Piece (NOT CD). > > Apart from anything else, ALL other computer music players > > work on an assumption that the basic collection of tracks > > is an Album, so if you want to play this music on any > > other player, you are going to want it tagged this way. > > I have been using iTunes, Foobar and MusikCube on a daily basis for > some time and see NO evidence that they work on this assumption. Each > of these players displays a list of tracks in rows with tag values in > columns. I select tracks and perform some operation on them. It works > fine when the other tags are noit the same for all the tracks with the > same album value. > > > I for one really don't want differently tagged music for > > different players (and I really do use several). > > What other players do you use? > > OK, two different assumptions at work here. (1) other tags not the same for all tracks with the same album value ... agreed, this is not a problem. I think we have established some good examples (songs) where you can have an album where one of the tags (certainly performer, possibly genre) might vary from one track to another. (2) the assumption I think we should enforce for classical music... that "album" is set consistently for a Piece (eg Symphony). I use iTunes, and Foobar, and MusicMagicMixer, as well as Slimserver, Softsqueeze and Squeezeboxes. And if you want to play, say, a Symphony in iTunes then by far the easiest option is to search by Artist and then Album. I really do not want to be fiddling with sets of tracks to make up the Symphony, or to be selecting ones from a CD. This is why I think "Album" is so important - it comes naturally not just to Slimserver in its current state, but also to other players as well. Fortunately I don't think this needs distract us too much - I think we've nearly agreed on what will work, and it should be a strength rather than a weakness that the scheme can be used in more than one way. Unfortunately its my bedtime now (I don't know which time zone you're in!) so I need to sign off. If you feel like writing up a new version of the enhancement request I posted, please do! Regards Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Bill> It is fairly common for the tags to be different for tracks > on one classical CD. ... > You might be careful to creat a different album name for each > work but not everyone knows to do that or will make the > effort. It isn't a safe assumption for SS to make. > I'm going to disagree here... I think we have to state the > asusmption that the music has been tagged correctly, > which I take to mean with one Album per Piece (NOT CD). > Apart from anything else, ALL other computer music players > work on an assumption that the basic collection of tracks > is an Album, so if you want to play this music on any > other player, you are going to want it tagged this way. I have been using iTunes, Foobar and MusikCube on a daily basis for some time and see NO evidence that they work on this assumption. Each of these players displays a list of tracks in rows with tag values in columns. I select tracks and perform some operation on them. It works fine when the other tags are noit the same for all the tracks with the same album value. > I for one really don't want differently tagged music for > different players (and I really do use several). What other players do you use? Bill> And it can better handle tracks with multiple values > for a tag such as Artist. Ceejay> Careful. "Artist", in the Vorbis standard, > should only appear once. > You can have multiple Performers, though. Yes, I used Artist loosely. There are double concerti, and violin sonatas usually involve a piano player too. And operas and choral works will have more than one singer. I was referring to a practical need. -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: please confirm: bridging does not make SB3 an access point
Sorry, I had a little poke around but could not find the previous reference on this topic. The ideal setup I have in mind for my father-in-law (non computer literate) is: - Slimserver running on a Buffalo Linkstation NAS. - The first SB3 connects to Slimserver by ethernet. - The second (and possibly third) SB3 connects to Slimserver wirelessly through the first SB3. By removing both the wireless router and the PC I solve my two big problems: - My experiments have killed the hard drive and other elements of his 5 year old PC (running Windows Millenium Edition). - His Belkin modem (18 months old) refuses to allow connection with the SB3 (no firmware update available). I have given up on this. Apart from that I think it's just a neat idea. Any pointers in the right direction? -- mawfin mawfin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2612 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18661 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: ANNOUNCE: New Beginners Guide in Wiki
Listener Wrote: > > > I think recommending a tagging program that supports all the tags we > want to browse is important. That's why I raised the issue. > > Trust me, I'm not holding back on a recommendation for a (nearly) perfect tagger - I really don't know of one! Mp3tag isn't too bad for fixing problems even with the non-preferred tags like "Composer" - you can select an entire directory of files (or several, joined together temporarily), and check or fix the value of the Composer (or any other) tag. But its still fiddly, I agree, so if you find something better be sure to let me know! Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18649 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: ANNOUNCE: New Beginners Guide in Wiki
I understand that organizing music files solely by directory structure is awkward. Right now, I'm exploring the possibilities. > (2) Scaling - ... but I'm not seeing any signs of scaling > problems in usability. > If I know what I want (a particular symphony) > I can go straight to the various choices and pick one. Well, my usual situation is that I know what I want but it takes way too lomng to get there with the SB and remote. > If I don't know what I want, I can browse in various ways > (admittedly not conductor or band yet!!). I find I use the > browse by Genre a lot, especially now I've carefully set up > multiple genres on all my classical music. Multiple classical music genres will help me but I'll still be left with 100 plus Beethoven symphony performances, 100 plus Mozart Concerti, 150 plus Haydn Symphonies or 70 plus Haydn string quartets when I get to the stage where I'm browsing albums. > (3) Tag program recommendation - see the > BeginnersGuideToTagging! I looked at all three programs recommended. I understand that Composer, Conductor, etc. aren't useful right now but if the browsing facilities in SS are extended, they will be useful. mp3Tag - doesn't display Composer or Conductor in the main list or those properties in te left pane. It does show all the tags if you click on View/Tags. Hard to use it tofix problems though. Tag&Rename - supports coomposer, conductor and orchestra as far as I can tell. For some reason, composer isn't listed as one of the %n values you can use for file <-> tag operations. Godfather - seems to support composer but not conductor or orchestra. I think recommending a tagging program that supports all the tags we want to browse is important. That's why I raised the issue. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18649 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Bill, yes, it looks as though we will soon be sorted, all we need is agreement for someone to code it for us! Pressing on with the remaining issues: Listener Wrote: > Bill> If the user checks for browsing on Composer or conductor, > > should that contributor still be added to the artist > > tag values for an artist browse? > ... > I agree that it would be simple and clean to drop the merge capability. > I asked because it hadn't been settled. Can we then agree on the simple solution? i.e. we suggest that the merge capability be dropped? > > > If you are narrowing down your selection I think it is critical to > show the reduced data set as you go... > If you want to tack a list of matching albums on after the browse > choices, OK. This is exactly what I was thinking of. Have the "And Browse..." items at the top of the list, so you come to them first. Have the currently matching Albums (or tracks) below, so you can scroll into them if you wish. Top line of the display gives a clue as to how many there are, eg: "Browsing Beethoven / Karajan (57)" > > It is fairly common for the tags to be different for tracks on one > classical CD. I recommended a Sony CD recently with an excellent > performance of Beethoven's 4th symphony by Bruno Walter and an > excellent performance of Beethoven's 8th symphony by George Szell. And > it is common for a CD to have a concerto and a sonata. Same soloist > but no conductor and orchestra for the sonata. Sometimes a CD has a > symphony and a concerto. Sometimes a Cd has several symphonies or > concerti with different composers, conductors, soloists and > orchestras. > > You might be careful to creat a different album name for each work but > not everyone knows to do that or will make the effort. It isn't a safe > assumption for SS to make. I'm going to disagree here... I think we have to state the asusmption that the music has been tagged correctly, which I take to mean with one Album per Piece (NOT CD). So the examples you've given would all be different Albums in my book. Apart from anything else, ALL other computer music players work on an assumption that the basic collection of tracks is an Album, so if you want to play this music on any other player, you are going to want it tagged this way. I for one really don't want differently tagged music for different players (and I really do use several). > > Outside classical music, there are lots of Songbook CDs where the > greatest hits of a composer like Gershwin, Porter or Berlin (or someone > who is not yet dead) are song by various artists. You would want to > keep the same album name for all tracks because you want to be able to > find and play all the songs from the album. Maybe you could use the > composer, but the name of the songbook is the natural way to do it. Here I'll agree, this is similar to the example I gave. This should be tagged with Album = "Gershwin Songbook xx", track titles = song names, and "Performer" = singer for each track. The only dilemma here is how you use "Artist": the Vorbis standard implies this is meant to be a summary of the other information for players with limited display capbilities, ie you're supposed to choose the "most important" summary. In this example I'd probably go for "Gershwin" rather than the song singer, but I suspect this can remain a personal choice and doesn't need to be enforced in a standard. > > SS does rely on the album name as a way to group tracks and collect > properties. And you have gone farther in building a conceptual model. > I think that extending the browse facilities in SS will go better if you > don't organize browsing around your concept of an album. If you browse > tags in a uniform way for all (browsable) tags, you get a better > interface and one that handles things like tag values that are not the > same for every track in an album. And it can better handle tracks with > multiple values for a tag such as Artist. > Careful. "Artist", in the Vorbis standard, should only appear once. You can have multiple Performers, though. And, as per my note above, all tags are not equal. "Album" and "Artist" have special meaning for most players, and to retain any kind of compatibility we have to respect that. Regards Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Bill> If the user checks for browsing on Composer or conductor, > should that contributor still be added to the artist > tag values for an artist browse? Ceejay> I can see that the scheme gives more flexibility, > though I was hoping to keep it simple (to code and to use!) > and I'm not sure this buys a lot. > Given a capability to browse on Composer/conductor/band, > I'd have thought you could drop the functionality > to merge these tags with "artist", though > backwards compatibility is of course a good thing. I agree that it would be simple and clean to drop the merge capability. I asked because it hadn't been settled. > If you are narrowing down your selection I think it is critical to show the reduced data set as you go... There is a distinction here between the web interface and the SB/remote interface. On a webpage, we can show the number of albums, artists, tracks that match. And you might as well display some values on the web page. On the SB display, you can't show much and scrolling takes more time than does scanning down the web page. How about incorporating the number of matches into the menu choices: Browse again for 6 Albums Browse again for 75 Songs (Tracks) Browse Again for 3 Conductors ... With this feedback, you can see how the search is going at each stage and pick the best next step. If you want to tack a list of matching albums on after the browse choices, OK. For the web interface, I think displaying a list of Albums (or Tracks if you have narrowed it to one Album) is reasonable. > Agreed that if you ever select an album on your list, it > must be time to drop into the tracks. Good. Allowing the user to browse tracks at any stage gives him a way to choose whether to end with an album or a track. Bill> The user should be able to press the "Play" or "Add" > buttons to play the displayed Track or Album. However, > the selections the user has already made may eliminate > some tracks because they don't have the right tag values. > That is how "Browse Artist" works now. That is how I > think the multi-level browse should work. Ceejay> OK, this is definitely more complex than I was > thinking of but I think I can see where you are going. Well, the SS does this logic for Browses now. I makes sense and it is consistent with what's being done now. I think you are building up the role of the Album in a way that is not necessary. > This note has reminded me of an unstated assumption that > we should check. Is is safe to assume that all of the > tracks within a single album will always have the same tags? > In my collection I have ensured that this is ALWAYS > the case, because I can foresee some nasty sideeffects > were it to be otherwise. It would certainly simplify > things here if we could assume it. So far I've thought > of just one case where this might realistically occur > - you have an album of short songs (not long enought > to be tagged as Albums in their own right) with different > singers. Does this browser need to take this into account? It is fairly common for the tags to be different for tracks on one classical CD. I recommended a Sony CD recently with an excellent performance of Beethoven's 4th symphony by Bruno Walter and an excellent performance of Beethoven's 8th symphony by George Szell. And it is common for a CD to have a concerto and a sonata. Same soloist but no conductor and orchestra for the sonata. Sometimes a CD has a symphony and a concerto. Sometimes a Cd has several symphonies or concerti with different composers, conductors, soloists and orchestras. You might be careful to creat a different album name for each work but not everyone knows to do that or will make the effort. It isn't a safe assumption for SS to make. Outside classical music, there are lots of Songbook CDs where the greatest hits of a composer like Gershwin, Porter or Berlin (or someone who is not yet dead) are song by various artists. You would want to keep the same album name for all tracks because you want to be able to find and play all the songs from the album. Maybe you could use the composer, but the name of the songbook is the natural way to do it. SS does rely on the album name as a way to group tracks and collect properties. And you have gone farther in building a conceptual model. I think that extending the browse facilities in SS will go better if you don't organize browsing around your concept of an album. If you browse tags in a uniform way for all (browsable) tags, you get a better interface and one that handles things like tag values that are not the same for every track in an album. And it can better handle tracks with multiple values for a tag such as Artist. > So, yes, present the same list of searchable tags each time. > The coding might well have to impose a limit on the number > of levels of search you can do, though. Showing the number of Albums, etc. left to browse would help the user get to the end and stop
Re: [slim] Undocumented options?
Two undocumented options that may help in your situation: 1. Press and hold ADD on the remote after power-cycling the unit (unplugging, replugging) to reset to factory defaults. 2. Press and hold 1 on the remote after power-cycling to rewrite the firmware. Also I find when I'm having wireless problems I go back to basics and work step-by-step. 1. Disable encryption and make sure SSID and DHCP are enabled. Try to connect. If you can't, you have fundamental wireless or network issues. Look at router firmware or signal strength/interference. 2. Disable DHCP and assign a static IP if that's how you run your network. 3. Enable WPA with a very simple passphrase. 4. Enable WPA with your standard passphrase. 5. Try disabling SSID broadcast if that's how you run your network. I was once able to connect with disabled SSID by enabling SSID, finding the network, then disabling SSID. This no longer works for me now, but no big deal. Jim Holtz wrote: > Is there a list of undocumented or hidden options for the SB2 and SB3 > that I've seen mentioned occassionally? > > I've joined the ranks of those having wireless network issues after > several months of zero problems. I'd like to reset everything back to > the default and start over. > > It started yesterday with a loud buzzing noise while exploring Internet > radio staions. I had to unplug and reset my SB2 but it now won't connect > to the router. I did do the add button hold down while reconnecting the > power to it. > > Suggestions > > Thanks! > > Jim Holtz > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Undocumented options?
Quoting Jim Holtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've joined the ranks of those having wireless network issues after several months of zero problems. I'd like to reset everything back to the default and start over. It started yesterday with a loud buzzing noise while exploring Internet radio staions. I had to unplug and reset my SB2 but it now won't connect to the router. I did do the add button hold down while reconnecting the power to it. This resets the squeezebox, but many features are handled by slimserver prefs. you'll have to stop the server, delete slimserver.pref then restart the server to go back to default prefs. If you use the linux rpm install of slimserver, then the prefs file is actually /etc/slimserver.conf instead. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone skin question
Quoting Daniel Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: For those who need it, on the Mac, the file is in ~/Library/Caches/SlimServer I couldn't make sense of what was shown, but then I hadn't even glanced at any documentation. once you have opened the db, click on the "browse data" tab at the top. Then select "tracks" from the pulldown list for Table. At the far right, last column, you will find "multialbumsortkey". This is the info that is used for sorting when you are browsing with the group albums pref to keep multi-albums together as one. Otherwise, sorting is strictly by track number. Using Browse Music Folder, all sorting is alphabetical. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Undocumented options?
Is there a list of undocumented or hidden options for the SB2 and SB3 that I've seen mentioned occassionally? I've joined the ranks of those having wireless network issues after several months of zero problems. I'd like to reset everything back to the default and start over. It started yesterday with a loud buzzing noise while exploring Internet radio staions. I had to unplug and reset my SB2 but it now won't connect to the router. I did do the add button hold down while reconnecting the power to it. Suggestions Thanks! Jim Holtz -- Jim Holtz Jim Holtz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1456 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18822 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Linksys WUSB54GS - Nividia Nforce system - crash
What I mean is they often are not stable on the host PC. Speeds might or might not be OK but often it makes the system very crash-prone. Drivers for PCI devices are much, much simpler. Robster wrote: > Mark Lanctot Wrote: > >>USB-based networking devices are just trouble, >>trouble, trouble. >> >> >>Apart from my WUSB54GSwith drivers 1.0.0.1, firmware 3.60.9.1, >>54 mps >> >>Rob > > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Problem, Can't open File
Quoting sfraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I am in the process of riping my entire CD collection to the SS in WAV format. Several times a week, I will grab a handfull and rip them. In a earlier version of SS you could schedule rescan's. Did they stop supporting this feature, or was it moved? it is in the same place it's always been. server settings->plugins It does a "check for new and changed" as opposed to a "wipe library" rescan. Browse Music Folder will also pickup new files when you navigate into that folder. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Difference
> What's the difference between SlimDevice 2 and SlimDevice 3? > > Any estimates about Real Audio becoming avaliable? > > Thanks. > > > -- > will Functionally they're identical--the only difference is cosmetic. Real Audio is supported by the AlienBBC plugin. Search around the forums and you'll find lots of info on this little gem. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Difference
Quoting will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: What's the difference between SlimDevice 2 and SlimDevice 3? Squeezebox 2 and Squeezebox v3 are identical hardware with the exception of a minor change in a logic power supply, and dual internal antennae. Squeezebox 2 has one internal and one external antenna. All other changes are cosmetic. Any estimates about Real Audio becoming avaliable? Assuming that you mean natively, all guesses would be fair. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Trigger-happy remote ?
I have two new SB3's today. The up/down arrow skipping list items is the first thing I noticed. I changed the values in IR.PM as recommended in the debug database. However, it still happens but only seems to happen while a track is actually being played by the SB3. If you stop the track then the problem seems to go away. luga -- luga00 luga00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1938 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18248 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Updated skin for Handheld/PDA use
Thanks, worked fine with Firefox. -- netim3 netim3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18770 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Difference
What's the difference between SlimDevice 2 and SlimDevice 3? Any estimates about Real Audio becoming avaliable? Thanks. -- will will's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1058 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18821 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Linksys WUSB54GS - Nividia Nforce system - crash
Mark Lanctot Wrote: > USB-based networking devices are just trouble, > trouble, trouble. > > > Apart from my WUSB54GSwith drivers 1.0.0.1, firmware 3.60.9.1, > 54 mps > > Rob -- Robster Robster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18802 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem, Can't open File
dwc Wrote: > Scott, > It's a known (and fixed) issue that might not be fixed in the version > of Slimserver you are running. > > What happens is some tracks are not written to the DB, and thus SS ends > up not being able to play them. Once a directory gets messed up like > this, only a rescan will clean it up. > > The workaround: From now on, to make sure all the new tracks get > written to the DB properly, just be sure to scroll through the entire > track listing once on a newly added folder before hitting "play". > (i.e. hit down arrow until you come back to the first track again.) > > Scolling though each track writes that track's info to the db. You can > confirm by "searching" for the new tracks or album. Once it's in the DB > it will show up in a search. > > -Dan I am in the process of riping my entire CD collection to the SS in WAV format. Several times a week, I will grab a handfull and rip them. In a earlier version of SS you could schedule rescan's. Did they stop supporting this feature, or was it moved? Thanks -- sfraser sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18779 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone skin question
On 5/12/05 at 09:01 -0800, kdf wrote On 5-Dec-05, at 3:45 AM, DrNic wrote: Thanks KDF. I have noticed that regardless of multi-disc setting, or compilation setting, these files are being sorted according to artist alphabetically (they are compilation discs so have many different artists - reminder!). I have changed the track numbers to simple 1, 2, 3 etc and this hasn't made a difference. You say I can check the database, can you please humour me and tell me how I do that?! Where is the file I need to check and can I open it with Access or something? http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ It's a free app to view sqlite databases (which slimserver uses by default) The file name is slimserversql.db and I'm not sure where it is created when using the windows installer. A search should have no trouble finding it. For those who need it, on the Mac, the file is in ~/Library/Caches/SlimServer I couldn't make sense of what was shown, but then I hadn't even glanced at any documentation. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
Thanks I don't have any links that I know of but it always feels like I am in a loop. I'll upgrade and see if that makes any difference. (Last upgrade I did made this all worse when it removed the "clear cache" option.) Thanks anyway. -- dgovan dgovan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18651 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Listener Wrote: > > > > (1) Add "Performer" contributor type > > What does SS do with it? Is it combined with Artist in the Artist > search? Is it a separate Browsable tag? > I'm sure this needs to be a separate browsable tag. That would allow you to browse (or search from the web page) for a case where performer=x AND conductor=y AND ensemble=z, for example. > > The menu of search fields on the SB should be based on the list of > Browsable tags from (2). Should the advanced search page include just > the Browsable tags from (2) or all the tags SS stores in the Database? I think just the browsable tags, but wouldn't want to defend this choice on the barricades. I was looking for simplicity. > > If the user checks for browsing on Composer or conductor, should that > contributor still be added to the artist tag values for an artist > browse? I can see that the scheme gives more flexibility, though I was hoping to keep it simple (to code and to use!) and I'm not sure this buys a lot. Given a capability to browse on Composer/conductor/band, I'd have thought you could drop the functionality to merge these tags with "artist", though backwards compatibility is of course a good thing. > > Ceejay suggested that the multi-level browse should display a list of > Albums after each Browse step. That isn't consistent with the way SS > works now and I don't know that it fits for all stages for all previous > selections. Yes. I did give this quite a lot of thought. If you are narrowing down your selection I think it is critical to show the reduced data set as you go... otherwise its far too easy to end up specifying a combination with no matches, and then you're not sure where you went wrong. Similarly if you are applying selection criteria and get to a point where you have, say 3 or 4 items on your list, you might as well just scroll and select. Agreed that if you ever select an album on your list, it must be time to drop into the tracks. > > A suggestion: After the user browses on one tag, display the list of > browsable tags. If the user has already browsed the Album tag and > selected one Album value, display the track titles that match the > previously selected tag values. If the user has not yet browsed the > Album tag, display the distinct album values for tracks that match the > previously selected tag values. > > The user should be able to press the "Play" or "Add" buttons to play > the displayed Track or Album. However, the selections the user has > already made may eliminate some tracks because they don't have the > right tag values. That is how "Browse Artist" works now. That is how > I think the multi-level browse should work. OK, this is definitely more complex than I was thinking of but I think I can see where you are going. This note has reminded me of an unstated assumption that we should check. Is is safe to assume that all of the tracks within a single album will always have the same tags? In my collection I have ensured that this is ALWAYS the case, because I can foresee some nasty sideeffects were it to be otherwise. It would certainly simplify things here if we could assume it. So far I've thought of just one case where this might realistically occur - you have an album of short songs (not long enought to be tagged as Albums in their own right) with different singers. Does this browser need to take this into account? > > Even if the user has already browsed on a tag, he might want to do it > again. (If Artist contains both Composers and performers and > conductors and bands.) Why not present the same list of browsable tags > at each stage? No particular reason, again I thought it would be simpler. Actually the best reason I can think of for allowing a selection from a given tag type more than once is that some of these may well legitimately have multiple values for a single album/track. For example, a piece with multiple PERFORMERs, or with multiple GENREs. So, yes, present the same list of searchable tags each time. The coding might well have to impose a limit on the number of levels of search you can do, though. Regards, Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
Although the 770's preordered via Nokia weeks ago won't ship for a while, the 770 can now be bought at some CompUSAs. I got sick of waiting and bought one today in Chicago. It's $399.99 though... (but I was gonna pay for next day air via Nokia so it's not that off). You can do a "quick" check of stock via this URL: http://tinyurl.com/7sq7h Change the last digits to your ZIP code. If a store shows some availablity call the direct to make sure. Most employees don't even know they have them. The store I went to had 2... Enjoy -Greg -- GoCubs GoCubs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17837 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
greetings all, i just got off the phone with the nokia order center, inquiring about my 770 order, which was placed november 2, 2005. the new release date is second week on january, 2006. let me repeat that in "internet screaming" mode: NONE OF US WILL GET OUR NOKIA 770's UNTIL SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY, NEXT YEAR, AT THE EARLIEST. :( :( :( this will be the first and last product i ever order from nokia, bitchin' little device or not. there is no better way to get and keep a customer p/o'd than to make them wait for product. -sherm -- shermoid "you are only young once, but you can be immature forever" "life is uncertain; eat dessert first" - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17837 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
One concern with Bluetooth is that NOT all bluetooth phones are capable of the type of data connection required for connecting an internet device. In fact, I was just looking at the specs of all the Verizon Wireless phone (my carrier) and only 3 phones are data bluetooth capable and two of them are treo's (which sorta defeats the purpose). -- Tim K Tim K's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17837 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Used Squeezebox (SB1) or new SB3?
> Do any of these units come with a built in speaker or does it have to > connect to a speaker? > > Cheers > RJ > www.eye97.com None come with built-in speakers. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
* dgovan shaped the electrons to say... What version of SlimServer? Do you have any Windows shortcuts? I'm using 6.1.1 - not sure what you mean by windows shortcuts - yes is the answer if you mean icon on desktop? By Windows Shortcuts I mean .lnk files - which point to another directory. Often, they are accidentially set to point to a directory higher in the tree than they are, creating a circular reference. Earlier versions of SlimServer would get caught in an infinite loop. Version 6.2.1+ doesn't have this problem. I suggest that you upgrade. -D -- vacation (n) : an extended trip away from home in search of inconvenient ways to connect to the Internet. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox3 - Complete FREAKOUT & stereo damage warning
if this was a dac problem - does this mean that it couldn't happen to the digital output...this is just pass-through right? -- kefa Fedora Core 4, Slimserver 6.2.1, Netgear DG834GT Squeezebox 3, Primare SPA20, Monitor Audio GR20 Squeezebox 2, Denon UD-M30, Monitor Audio PMC703 kefa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=421 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18818 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
He meant are there any shortcuts to other files in these directories? These shortcuts cause scanning problems if they reference a file already in the database or if they reference a file that doesn't exist. Certain builds after 6.2.1 will recognize these shortcuts and ignore them. You may think you don't have any, but the Windows UI makes it easy to make one by mistake. You can find them by sorting files by type. dgovan wrote: > [/color] > > What version of SlimServer? Do you have any Windows shortcuts? > > I'm using 6.1.1 - not sure what you mean by windows shortcuts - yes is > the answer if you mean icon on desktop? > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
> The separate requests are: > (1) Add "Performer" contributor type What does SS do with it? Is it combined with Artist in the Artist search? Is it a separate Browsable tag? > (2) Allow "Ensemble" and "orchestra" as equivalent to "Band" I'd be OK with doing this automatically or by a checkbox on the setup page for (4). See below. > (3) Expand the Advanced Search function in the Web interface The menu of search fields on the SB should be based on the list of Browsable tags from (2). Should the advanced search page include just the Browsable tags from (2) or all the tags SS stores in the Database? > (4) Allow browsing by additional tags (eg Conductor) If the user checks for browsing on Composer or conductor, should that contributor still be added to the artist tag values for an artist browse? I'd put a second level checkbox under artist and band. Sample setup page (default) Browse on these tags (X) Album (X) Artist ( ) combine Composer tag with Artist ( ) combine Conductor tag with Artist ( ) combine Band with tag Artist (X) Song Title (track title) ( ) Composer ( ) Conductor ( ) Band (this tag may contain an orchestra or ensemble name) ( ) combine Ensemble tag with Band ( ) combine Orchestra tag with Band You may alo browse on multiple tags successively to narrow the list of albums or tracks that fit your criteria. ( ) add multi-level Browse to main menu end sample page > (5) Add new multi-level browsing capability With the current browse artist, album and genre methods, you get to a list of albums. If you select one album from the list, you get a list of tracks. The description in the enhancement request text file says that after you select a value for the browse list, SS will present a list of tags that can be browsed next and a list of albums that meet the tag criteria already selected. At some point, you may need to display tracks rather than albums. I'm not clear why Ceejay wants a list of albums to be displayed at each stage of the multi-level browse. I did a few experiments with Softsqueeze. - If I use Browse Album, I get a list of albums after I select an Artist value and the choice "All Songs" is added to the list. If I select an album, I get the tracks that match the the Album I selected. If the Album name was not unique, I get all those tracks with the Album value I previously specified. They may come from several CDs. - If I use Browse Artist, I get a list of albums after I select an Artist value and the choice "All Albums" is added to the list. If I select an album, I get the tracks that match the Artist and the Album I selected. If the Album name was not unique, I get only those tracks with the Artist value I previously specified. I I press play when the Album name is displayed, only those tracks that meet the selection criteria are queued up. - If I use Browse Genre, I get a list of Artists after I select a Genre. If I select an Artist value, I get a list of Album values and the choice "All Albums" is added to the list. If I select an album, I get the tracks that match the Genre and the Album I selected. If my Album name is not unique, I get all the tracks with that Album - If I use "Browse Year", I get a list of Album values and the "All Songs" choice is added to the list. If I select an album, I get the tracks that match the Artist and the Album I selected. If the Album name was not unique, I get only those tracks with the Artist value I previously specified. Ceejay suggested that the multi-level browse should display a list of Albums after each Browse step. That isn't consistent with the way SS works now and I don't know that it fits for all stages for all previous selections. However, I'll propose a way to do what Ceejay wants. A suggestion: After the user browses on one tag, display the list of browsable tags. If the user has already browsed the Album tag and selected one Album value, display the track titles that match the previously selected tag values. If the user has not yet browsed the Album tag, display the distinct album values for tracks that match the previously selected tag values. The user should be able to press the "Play" or "Add" buttons to play the displayed Track or Album. However, the selections the user has already made may eliminate some tracks because they don't have the right tag values. That is how "Browse Artist" works now. That is how I think the multi-level browse should work. --- The enhancement request text file calls it "Multi-mode browsing" which does not convey the sense that you can browse on some tag to narrow the list, then browse the list again with a different attribute to narrow the list further. --- Even if the user has already browsed on a tag, he might want to do it again. (If Artist contains both Composers and performers and conductors and bands.) Why not present the same list of browsable tags at each stage? -- Listener
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
[/color] What version of SlimServer? Do you have any Windows shortcuts? I'm using 6.1.1 - not sure what you mean by windows shortcuts - yes is the answer if you mean icon on desktop? -- dgovan dgovan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18651 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
* dgovan shaped the electrons to say... I have about 3500 tracks in 417 folders (1 per album). 60gb disk with about 5gb taken up with these folders and 17gb free. 512mb ram on xp home. Processors about 2500 if I remember right. In the past people have advised not using folders but I couldn't work that way. It's rescanning now, being going for an hour now with no sign of the added tracks appearing. They will eventuallythough judging by past experience. What version of SlimServer? Do you have any Windows shortcuts? -D -- and I also learned that a meat vortex takes meat away from you. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
Michaelwagner Wrote: > > > Can you please tell us about your configuration? What processor, how > much memory, what operating system, what sort of disks, how many > tracks? > > Thanks. I have about 3500 tracks in 417 folders (1 per album). 60gb disk with about 5gb taken up with these folders and 17gb free. 512mb ram on xp home. Processors about 2500 if I remember right. In the past people have advised not using folders but I couldn't work that way. It's rescanning now, being going for an hour now with no sign of the added tracks appearing. They will eventuallythough judging by past experience. -- dgovan dgovan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18651 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Updated skin for Handheld/PDA use
Hmmm, still not working for me. Could it be a zip version problem? I'm either getting the error above or getting 'no files to extract' if I save it first & then try 'extract all'. There have been reports about Internet Explorer having problems with downloads from this forum. Try to use Opera, FireFox or some other browser (know links? wget? :-)). -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
dgovan Wrote: > Why does slim have to thrash away for hours? Well, I'm not sure it "has to". And in fact, on many configurations, it doesn't. I have 8500 tunes and it takes half an hour for me to rescan them all. Mind you, I still think that's 25 minutes too long, but the point is, no one seems to really understand why some people have scan times that are an order of magnitude longer than others. There also seems to be a bug in 6 where it's supposed to find small changes without doing an entire rescan, but it doesn't seem to work right. Can you please tell us about your configuration? What processor, how much memory, what operating system, what sort of disks, how many tracks? Thanks. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18651 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
I've had my sb for a year now and I've got a lot of sympathy when the guy says the rescan needs attention. I've never got the hang of it (and yes my mp3 tags are fine). Add a few tracks ask for a rescan and nothing happens - ever. What had to be done before was clear the cache, now clear library and start again just for adding a few tracks. In my experience that can take 5-6 hours. Even harder is just changing an mp3 tag then you've got to move the track to another part of the drive, change the tag then move it back and rescan as above. I've seen other guys with itunes to a rescan in 10 seconds. Why does slim have to thrash away for hours? -- dgovan dgovan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18651 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox3 - Complete FREAKOUT & stereo damage warning
So I've had a pair of new sb3's since Friday. The idea is to replace my very early slimp3. The hope is that 6.X will work well with the new hardware (it has never worked well with my slimp3, so I have stayed on 5.4.1). The sb3 has been playing almost constantly since Friday. Today, I was eating lunch with the sb3 playing at a low volume.. Suddenly, massive ear splitting static from my hifi. The sort that sends your lunch to the floor while you make a frantic effort to mute the pre-amp. The noise was traced to the analog rca outputs of the sb3. The static occurred with every track I played.. I began a network traffic capture and I placed an urgent call to slim support with the hope of isolating this 'show stopper'. Basically, support reported that this problem has been observed twice before. The Xilinix chip 'somehow' gets corrupted during a firmware update, causing sample rate problems on the DAC. I was asked to re-program the chip (very simple, just a power cycle of the sb3 while holding '1' on the remote). That seems to have cleared the problem for now. Not sure why the problem did not occur sooner. The firmware was upgraded when I first powered on the unit Friday. Never had anything like this happen during years of using a slimp3. Perhaps there should be more self-integrity checking? I have been shopping for some new amps and plan on putting the other sb3 into a new listening room. I have been considering directly attaching the sb3 to the amps. This experience reinforces what my gut was saying all along, basically "Attaching a squeezebox directly to an amp? Are you f'n nutz??!!". Yeah, imagine a pair of 250 watt monoblock tube amps sending max volume static and distortion to your speakers.. Things were going quite well up until this point. Unfortunately, I cannot say that this was the smooth intro to the 'latest & greatest' product versions that I was hoping for. But, hey, the new case looks really.. uh.. big.. and new.. Still haven't decided whether to send them back during the eval period. FL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem, Can't open File
Scott, It's a known (and fixed) issue that might not be fixed in the version of Slimserver you are running. What happens is some tracks are not written to the DB, and thus SS ends up not being able to play them. Once a directory gets messed up like this, only a rescan will clean it up. The workaround: From now on, to make sure all the new tracks get written to the DB properly, just be sure to scroll through the entire track listing once on a newly added folder before hitting "play". (i.e. hit down arrow until you come back to the first track again.) Scolling though each track writes that track's info to the db. You can confirm by "searching" for the new tracks or album. Once it's in the DB it will show up in a search. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18779 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Purchased iTunes music not visible?
Got it-thanks. -- bec143 bec143's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=283 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18803 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: more wood cases
Quoting Chris Laplante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm sorry, I don't follow, what's an "MP"? I'd assume that was PM, as in private message on the forum web pages. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: more wood cases
I'm sorry, I don't follow, what's an "MP"? chris[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, -Chris On 12/4/05, lioelec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello chrisla > > Please read your MP > > thanks > > > -- > lioelec > > lioelec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2454 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16775 > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Updated skin for Handheld/PDA use
Hmmm, still not working for me. Could it be a zip version problem? I'm either getting the error above or getting 'no files to extract' if I save it first & then try 'extract all'. Can somebody email me the files? -- netim3 netim3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18770 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 & Netgear WGT624 Wireless 11b/11g/108 router
I have a Netgear WGT624 V2 wireless router updated with the latest release firmware (4.2.10). There are several other devices/computers on the network with network interfaces made by various manufacturers. Each is able to connect to the router when set to "auto" mode EXCEPT THE SB3. I spent a full day isolating every computer and trying various settings. The result? 11g connects at 11g 11b connects at 11b 108 connects at 108 EXCEPT the SB3, which simply cannot establish a connection whent the router is set to auto. The temporary solution is to set the router to 11g/11b instead of auto, but this completely disallows 108 users taking advantage of their hardware when the Squeezebox is not on. I do not see this as a "proprietary standards" issue because all other vendor NICs are able to make conntections in auto mode at 11b or 11g. Any ideas out there? Also, has anyone had any success using the SB3 with EONSTREAMS? If so, how was success achieved? Thanks! -- stand4you2 stand4you2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2561 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18817 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Security setting advice needed
Hi Everyone Testing the security settings of the server I have locked myself out, a rather silly thing to do :-) I examined the .prefs file and deleted the digits found after this line 'securitySecret:' I found I got back in to the server, but most of my settings had changed which I found strange. Did I do the right thing to break the password or should I have done it another way? Thanks dfk -- dfk dfk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18816 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Unicode troubles
* aix shaped the electrons to say... The library is a mix of WAV and MP3 files. WAVs have no tags; MP3s have a mix of IDv1 and IDv2 tags. One interesting case is an album that is mostly OK, but parts of which are displayed in a wrong character encoding. When examining the files on disk, there is no obvious reasons for why this would happen. All files are named consistently and all MP3 tags are identical in terms of format and encoding. My first step would be to convert all your tags to ID3v2.4 and remove the ID3v1 tags. -D -- I'm really looking forward to this hangover. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Robert Goldman Wrote: > > So is "Performer" intended to be effectively "soloist"? That would be the idea, yes. "Performer" is the recommended standard for this in Vorbis, as far as I can see. You are apparently allowed to have as many as you like. BTW - welcome to the debate - any views on the rest of the stuff we've been talking about, e.g. the suggested spec attached to my last post? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone skin question
On 5-Dec-05, at 3:45 AM, DrNic wrote: Thanks KDF. I have noticed that regardless of multi-disc setting, or compilation setting, these files are being sorted according to artist alphabetically (they are compilation discs so have many different artists - reminder!). I have changed the track numbers to simple 1, 2, 3 etc and this hasn't made a difference. You say I can check the database, can you please humour me and tell me how I do that?! Where is the file I need to check and can I open it with Access or something? http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ It's a free app to view sqlite databases (which slimserver uses by default) The file name is slimserversql.db and I'm not sure where it is created when using the windows installer. A search should have no trouble finding it. You can check the song info pages as well to see what the server has for disk number. My multi-disk sets list fine, but they are all single artist. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Whole House Audio with Squeezebox
Hi Fred, I am now planning out a whole house audio system and I want multiple squeezeboxes as selectable sources for each room/zone 1. Has anyone any experience using a Squeezebox with whole house audio systems? 2. All of the mfgr's I have seen use keypads for each room to navigate/select music, change volume. Has Slim or any other mfg a solution that works together with the Squeezebox? One of the things that AMX does is whole house audio. The SlimServer module that I wrote (up on SourceForge) would drive this just fine with minimal additions. Here's the link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/netlinx-modules and here are some screenshots: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=62827 http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=62827&ssid=10667 This is obviously a much richer interface than keypads (album art and all), full two-way feedback, etc. You can use a variety of solutions at a variety of price points. -- Jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Whole House Audio with Squeezebox
I have had my Squeezebox for well over a year and absolutely love it. (I sold my Audiotron on ebay). I am now planning out a whole house audio system and I want multiple squeezeboxes as selectable sources for each room/zone 1. Has anyone any experience using a Squeezebox with whole house audio systems? 2. All of the mfgr's I have seen use keypads for each room to navigate/select music, change volume. Has Slim or any other mfg a solution that works together with the Squeezebox? 3. I use Homeseer in my home automation setup (not for the squeezebox yet, but I do have HomeSeer sending/receiving IR). One thought I had was to use web tablets or PDA's in each room to browse to HomeSeer (web server in my house) and serve up a custom page that allows me to select a room and a music source(Squeezebox1, Squeezebox2,etc.). I could then use the selected Squeezebox's web interface to play music. Probably not as monkeyproof as a keypad setup. Solution #3 would require more work on my end and I want to make sure I don't re-invent the wheel. Thanks, Fred -- espressodaily espressodaily's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1970 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18814 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Ceejay wrote: The separate requests are: (1) Add "Performer" contributor type (2) Allow "Ensemble" and "orchestra" as equivalent to "Band" (3) Expand the Advanced Search function in the Web interface (4) Allow browsing by additional tags (eg Conductor) (5) Add new multi-level browsing capability So is "Performer" intended to be effectively "soloist"? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Display corrupted on power up
seanadams Wrote: > It must be something to do with your power supply then. Cars have REALLY > noisy power esecially at startup. > > You might try putting a much larger cap, say 2200 to 3300uF across the > DC input, or try a different PS. > > What power supply are you using? I'm using the M1-ATX DC-DC power supply, which takes switched and unswitched DC (from car) and outputs 12V and 5V regulated. It supposedly keeps the output correct over engine starts. Here's an interesting twist though: after I removed the original SB2 from the car, I plugged it into the standard AC adapter in the house just to do a quick factory reset, and the display was corrupted that one time too (after the reset, it was back to normal). Weird, huh? -- LavaJoe LavaJoe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18033 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem, Can't open File
Thanks, I did end up doing a "delete and re-scan". I was hoping not to. My library is currently 60k songs, therefore a fresh rescan takes a few hours... Oh Well it seemed to fix the problem. Thanks again. Scott -- sfraser sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18779 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 30-character field limitation?
No, the ID3v1 tags were removed long ago and there have been dozens of rescans since, several by clearing the library first. radish wrote: > If there is a limit it must be confined to the ID3 reading code, as I > have even longer names in some cases and they work fine (using Vorbis & > FLAC). Do you have both ID3v1 and v2 in the files? Is it possible > Slimserver is reading the v1 and ignoring the v2? > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 30-character field limitation?
If there is a limit it must be confined to the ID3 reading code, as I have even longer names in some cases and they work fine (using Vorbis & FLAC). Do you have both ID3v1 and v2 in the files? Is it possible Slimserver is reading the v1 and ignoring the v2? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18811 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 30-character field limitation?
Hi: I have some techno remixes with really long names...for example: Song Name (Artist A, Artist B & Artist C Boomtastic Jungle Safari Remix) ;-) SlimServer 6.2.1 truncates the names at a 30-character limit. I also have songs by several artists with long names: Artist A, Artist B & Artist C Those get truncated at 30 characters as well. You'd think this was an ID3v1 limitation (30-character limit) but the tags are all ID3v2.3.0, so there should be no limit in the tags themselves. The limit seems to be in SlimServer. I changed to ID3v2.3.0 quite a while ago and rescanned from scratch dozens of times since. Am I alone in this problem? It's cosmetic, but it looks like crap on the nice big bright SB2 screen, scrolling across the screen truncated like that. It's not the SB2 display, the truncation is the same in the SlimServer web pages as well. Classical music listeners must see the same thing? -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Track order & naming problem - 6.2.2
Have you looked at the files with a thorough tag checker? Sounds like you have some file tags that you can't see/edit but that SS can see. Mp3tag could probably see them, but you'd have to know what you're looking for. I find that foobar seems to find all the tags. Once you know what you're looking for (i.e. is it in a "COMMENT" field? a "TRACK" field?), you can then get Mp3tag to find and delete it. Also, you may want to settle on one tagging system. ID3v2 only seems to work for me. When I have both ID3v1 and ID3v2, Mp3tag often does not agree with SlimServer or foobar. It's easy to get Mp3tag to delete everything but one tag set. DrNic wrote: > Using the nightly from 4/12/05: > MP3 tracks (from compilation album) imported via iTunes, with > compilation tag set. > Tracks named by iTunes as 1-01, 1-02 etc (disc 1) and 2-01, 2-02 etc > (disc 2). > Found that the tracks were listed in SS by artist order alphabetically. > Edited tags for track numbers to simple 1, 2, 3, etc. Renamed track > files to reflect this. Told SS to NOT use iTunes. Deleted db file. > Rescanned everything. > Tracks still appear with name 1-01 Blah Blah, ordered by artist > alphabetically!! > Where is SS getting the old name from, as file names _and_ tags have > been changed? Interestingly turning on "use iTunes" gives the tracks > the right order (but still remain named 1-01, 1-02 etc) > > Using Win XP2, P4 3.2 gig, 1 gig ram. > > Any thoughts? > > Nic > > PS Moved to this new thread from here (as different problem really!): > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18796 > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Purchased iTunes music not visible?
... so the workaround is to burn them to a CD in iTunes, and then re-rip them as normal AAC files which Slimserver can use. -- neilcoburn neilcoburn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18803 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem, Can't open File
In SlimServer, did you rescan? You may also want to use the "Clear library and rescan everything" option. Are the new files in the same directory, the one where SlimServer expects them? sfraser wrote: > I am runing SS 6.2.1 on XP. I am having an assue with recently added > disc's in regards to opening/playing some WAV files. I am using Browse > Music Folders. Oddly enough, all tracks seem to be recorded correctly > (using EAC, with no errors listed)They appear to be listed correctly, > but only the 1st track will play? All other trakc give me the following > "Problem opening file" This is consistant with 2 SB2's, so it would > appear to be a SS or EAC problem? Although, I can play all the tracks > correctly via Musicmatch??? Did I twist the wrong nerd knob somewhere > in EAC or SS? Any help would be appreciated. > > P.S. I have tried re-recording the wav's, deleting and recording and > stop/start the SS service. > > Thanks > > Scott > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Hello again Bill and anyone else who's following this debate... Attached is an attempt at specifying a set of enhancement requests. I've broken it down into a series of bite-sized chunks (though the last one is a bit bigger than the others). The idea is to make substantial improvement for classical users without breaking too much of the current technology. Note that we could certainly go a lot further, but I figured that incremental is good. The separate requests are: (1) Add "Performer" contributor type (2) Allow "Ensemble" and "orchestra" as equivalent to "Band" (3) Expand the Advanced Search function in the Web interface (4) Allow browsing by additional tags (eg Conductor) (5) Add new multi-level browsing capability I think I've incorporated just about everything of my and Bill's ideas, with just a couple of notes: - I don't think we need the web page to construct a custom browse pattern if we have a fully flexible browse function - I've left out the idea of a new "Work" tag for the moment, although I can certainly see how it might be handy. Trouble is, it doesn't seem to be in general use anywhere? Debate and new versions most welcome. Note in particular that Multi-Level Browsing should be of interest not just to Classical users! When we have some consensus I would hope can post this as an official enhancement request. Regards Ceejay +---+ |Filename: enhancement req v1.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=532| +---+ -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Display corrupted on power up
It must be something to do with your power supply then. Cars have REALLY noisy power esecially at startup. You might try putting a much larger cap, say 2200 to 3300uF across the DC input, or try a different PS. What power supply are you using? -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18033 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Track order & naming problem - 6.2.2
Using the nightly from 4/12/05: MP3 tracks (from compilation album) imported via iTunes, with compilation tag set. Tracks named by iTunes as 1-01, 1-02 etc (disc 1) and 2-01, 2-02 etc (disc 2). Found that the tracks were listed in SS by artist order alphabetically. Edited tags for track numbers to simple 1, 2, 3, etc. Renamed track files to reflect this. Told SS to NOT use iTunes. Deleted db file. Rescanned everything. Tracks still appear with name 1-01 Blah Blah, ordered by artist alphabetically!! Where is SS getting the old name from, as file names _and_ tags have been changed? Interestingly turning on "use iTunes" gives the tracks the right order (but still remain named 1-01, 1-02 etc) Using Win XP2, P4 3.2 gig, 1 gig ram. Any thoughts? Nic PS Moved to this new thread from here (as different problem really!): http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18796 -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18809 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Portland Event - (was Re: Seattle Event)
radish Wrote: > Ooooh New York :) Looking forward to that one. If you can make it > pre-Christmas all the better, I have 2x SB3s to buy as gifts and > getting them in person would be all the more fun! Raleigh's weather is a lot nicer :) Seriously, though, where are the Southeast trips? -- Dave D Dave D's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=924 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18774 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fishbone skin question
kdf Wrote: > > > With more playing with 6.2.2, I have noticed that albums that were > > created with iTunes (before my FLAC onslaught which is still > ongoing!) > > and were compilations (and hence have iTunes compilation tag set) do > > not show up in track order. These are taged as 2-1, 2-2 2-3 etc for > > disc 2 (and 1-1, 1-2 etc for disc 1). It is only disc 2 that has the > > number order wrong. Any thoughts?[/color] > > This should already be fixed, in that the sort will use the multi-album > > sort key. You'd have to check the db to confirm. > There are a number of settings changes since 5.3.1 to handle > compilations and multi-albums. You might need to play with those a > bit. As a rule now, you should only have to tag then with a plain > tracknum, and disc (part in set for itunes). The server does the rest. > > I'm not sure exactly what it does with tracknums of 1-1, 102, etc. I > > no longer have the kind of free time needed to keep track of all the > changing back and forth.-kdf Thanks KDF. I have noticed that regardless of multi-disc setting, or compilation setting, these files are being sorted according to artist alphabetically (they are compilation discs so have many different artists - reminder!). I have changed the track numbers to simple 1, 2, 3 etc and this hasn't made a difference. You say I can check the database, can you please humour me and tell me how I do that?! Where is the file I need to check and can I open it with Access or something? Thanks for your help. Nic -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18796 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.1 to 6.2 performance hit?
Seems unlikely that this would be the problem... but don't RSS tickers update every 30 minutes? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17761 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.1 to 6.2 performance hit?
sdevans Wrote: > Sorry for the delay in responding, been away on holiday. Anyway to > clarify, if anyone can help; now using 6.2.2, and I get a pause every > 30 minutes, which seems fixed to the time my server boots, i.e if the > server comes on at 8:00am then I'll get a pause in music at 8:32, then > 9:02, then 9:32 etc. I hardly ever use the web interface much so I don't > mind those pauses (i.e browse artwork shafts it big time). > > What's it doing every 30 minutes, and can I change the interval? I believe it is keeping the server files unswapped. There is a setting in Performance (Keep unswapped interval) that is set as default to 30 minutes. Could this be your culprit? Try changing the value and seeing if it correlates... Nic -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17761 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: BBC Streams
On 4/12/05 at 23:00 +, Simon Still wrote It's very impressive scrolling through the a-z list though i can't work out the sort order That's because the sort order is essentially the order of items on the source of the Web page (AIUI), which isn't necessarily clear. I also find it confusing that Radio 2 A-Z and Radio 2 Listen Again are very different, and program sometimes show in one but not the other. Again this is a BBC issue, not Alienbbc. or what hitting the number buttons on the remote does - it moves to a different place in the list but doesnt seem to bear any relevance to the key pressed. It moves to that number in the list, but as we've seen the list order can be confusing. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.1 to 6.2 performance hit?
Sorry for the delay in responding, been away on holiday. Anyway to clarify, if anyone can help; now using 6.2.2, and I get a pause every 30 minutes, which seems fixed to the time my server boots, i.e if the server comes on at 8:00am then I'll get a pause in music at 8:32, then 9:02, then 9:32 etc. I hardly ever use the web interface much so I don't mind those pauses (i.e browse artwork shafts it big time). What's it doing every 30 minutes, and can I change the interval? -- sdevans sdevans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17761 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: Third-generation Squeezebox, SlimServer 6.2
stinkingpig Wrote: > > > > > >> Might be an idea to build them in black/white only, but have > coloured > >> cases available to purchase? > > skins, like the cell phones now have. > > > > > > or a skin in a can, :-) > http://tinyurl.com/dx56t > Which just goes to show that not all technical problems have a technical solution! -- Khuli Khuli's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17347 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Listener Wrote:
> >
> Select Album for next browse ==> list of 100+ albums
> (of the form "Beethoven - Symphony 3 - Szell - 1958")
> I can't type one letter an jump because they all start with Beethoven.
> I wade through the whole list and pick the extact work and performer I
> want.
>
> I'm done but the last step was a killer! I'd probably give up before
> finishing. If my wife was selecting music, she would give up and come
> kick me for my bad choice of the system.
>
So why stop there? If you know what you want, make a further selection
by Conductor and/or Ensemble? That would get the list down to
something manageable!
>
> - Why not browse for conductor before work?
> When you get a sizeable library, you don't remember everything in it.
> The point of a browse interface is to let the computer present choices
> rather than making you guess.
>
Agreed. My scheme would allow you to make selection by any of the
approved tags, in any order.
>
> - If SS depends heavily on the album name internally, why not put the
> short Work name in a different tag? That would let you browse on a
> long unique album name, keep SS happy and I could browse on a different
> tag with a short, non-unique work name.
> This work tag is analogous to the album nme as you proposed but it
> could probably be wedged into the contributor table with a different
> role. UGLY but it is a thought.
Unfortunately the official recommended tag list isn't available just at
the moment, but I have seen reference to a "TITLE" tag in this context,
could be "Symphony 9". Wedging it into the contributor table is, as
you say, ugly. The neatest way would be to add this into a table as a
separate column, but this is now a database redesign (and the owners of
the DB schema are understandably reluctant to shove new data in for
every possible requirement). Maybe this could be a separate
enhancement request for a later date. [Edit: whoops! Silly mistake -
"title" is of course the track title, we can't reuse that...]
>
> As I understand it, you can make a single search step using the SB
> remote and display, then you get a list of album names to scroll
> through. It doesn't scale well.
>
> I'd just add composer and conductor (performer) to the list of tags you
> can browse and let it go at that.
Good! I think we're agreed on this point.
> For the web interface, the advanced search function could be extended
> with fixed fields for composer and conductor (performer). The genre
> portion should have a a textbox allowing the user to specify a value
> for an other genre in the dropdown list.
>
Or, if we are getting really fancy, SEVERAL Genre boxes in an AND or OR
configuration! EG "Romantic" and ("Concerto" or "Chamber"). But maybe
thats going a bit far... The current Advanced Search web page gives a
dropdown list populated with all the Genre values that have been found
in the database, thats a pretty good start.
Listener Wrote:
>
> - I need a tag that can describe the type of work (symphony, concerto,
> string quartet, chamber music) so that I can split of the works by one
> composer. Can I use Genre for this purpose?
>
Yes. See my notes on multiple genres. We'd need "genre" to be
included in the extended browsing functionality that we have been
debating.
Regards
Ceejay
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[slim] Re: BBC Streams
Have found it and installed on my Mac Mini OK,though there is a lot of command line stuff,OK because I know soem Linux. Ian -- ianf ianf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18751 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: stange bug: changing volume & add songs to playlist
Fixed. Updated the firmware and rebooted. Strange since I just plugged it in yesterday and the first thing you do is update the firmware. Oh well, at least leave it searchable for others. -- notanatheist notanatheist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18805 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Composer / Conductor / Band tags effectively
Ceejay> (1) What tags do we want to search on (in addition to > Artist/Album/Track which are givens)? I didn't answer this earlier. - I need a tag with just the name of the short Work name (For example, "Symphony 3"). - I need a tag that can describe the type of work (symphony, concerto, string quartet, chamber music) so that I can split of the works by one composer. Can I use Genre for this purpose? - I can mostly live using the Artist tag for a concatenation of soloist/conductor/orchestra. So I could live without conductor, soloist and band tags but I'd use them if they were present. In the long run, it would be quite useful to have those tags and perhaps Lyracist to document what's in the library. Once I put the CDs into storage, I'll be relying on the information in the database to tell me what's in the library. I found an interesting table comparing tag use by different standards and formats at http://tinyurl.com/bkr5m I notice that iTunes supprts a tag they describe as Grouping. Would this be a useful tag for a short Work name (For example, "Symphony 3")? Pat> But setting up a proper library for non-pop is a Pat> non-trivial effort. I've been struggling to see how to make a usable solution given the current functionality of SlimServer/SB. How do you use tags? Do you use the SB display and the remote to select music or a PDA or a Laptop? Pat> It isn't going to be fixed with a new table and five Pat> new Sql statements. I think that getting beyond the limits of the current browse methods would help a lot. I'd be interested to hear your shopping list of things that need to be changed/added or just figured out to provide really good support for classical music. Pat> And there are philosophical questions to answer: Pat> what is a band? There may be more than one way to skin the cat. Does SS/SB require that files be tagged in a particular way or can it adapt and/or be configured to use a mixed library. Right now, I need to understand one way to skin the whole cat. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: BBC Streams
As far as I can tell the order is presented exactly as it comes off the BBC website. The Radio 4 listen again and A to Z lists are certainly too long to scroll through quickly. The remote buttons are treated as numbers and you can therefore select the number of the entry in the playlist you want, e.g. if you go to Radio 4 listen again and then hit '1', '2', '3' in quick succession the entry shown will be number 123 in the playlist (set the SB to display two lines and this will show the position in the playlist). It's not too intuitive, but quite easy to use once you understand what's happening. I use a sort of manual binary cut approach to jump about the list by number until I'm in the right area and then scroll up or down to get the right programme. Using the remote buttons to pass a letter and jump to this place in the playlist would be a 'nice to have' enhancement. However, I think the work done to keep this really useful plugin operating as Slimserver moves forward, deal with the garbled radio 4 streams, etc. is clearly the best pay off of results vs effort from the AlienBBC team. Many thanks to all those involved for a core part of my Squeezebox experience. Chris -- lostboy lostboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18751 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: ANNOUNCE: New Beginners Guide in Wiki
Hi Bill, glad you like the improvements. Just a couple of points: (1) I'm rather sceptical about the use of Browse Music Folder as a mechanism for finding music. I do use it myself occasionally, when I know exactly what I want, or when I want to play a whole CD. But the use you've described has some drawbacks: - you're not making any use at all of the tagging information. - it feels relatively hard to change (you have to use a file manager to make changes) - you've just lost the ability to play back a whole CD, which was one of your original requirements! - you've made it very hard to make mass changes to a "tag" (which has now become a directory name) I think this will lead you to a fragmented file system, not at all what you want for 1000 CDs. (2) Scaling - ok, my classical collection isn't nearly as big as yours, about 250 CDs so far, but I'm not seeing any signs of scaling problems in usability. If I know what I want (a particular symphony) I can go straight to the various choices and pick one. If I don't know what I want, I can browse in various ways (admittedly not conductor or band yet!!). I find I use the browse by Genre a lot, especially now I've carefully set up multiple genres on all my classical music. (3) Tag program recommendation - see the BeginnersGuideToTagging! Personally I use mp3tag, it is good at making bulk changes to groups of tags. Its not ideal in the Genre field and just a little fiddly for the "extras" (like conductor). I'm still waiting for someone to point out something better. Finding tag errors is usually just a question of looking at the lists (of artists or albums), the discrepancies normally leap off the (web) page. Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18649 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
