azinck3 Wrote:
You could ebay it...they fetch a good price. Or give it to someone to
evangelize the Squeezebox.
oh trust me, i have already done my part as an evangelist! =)
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I have to agree with FL here, if the high end DACs in the transporter
could be used for other components (via digital input) this would be a
killer app. for audiophiles I think. It would go a long way to justify
the ticket price...because you'd be getting an awesome music player and
awesome DAC
fairyliquidizer Wrote:
This issue may not trouble you but I like to keep my tags as slim a
possible and would rather it was fixed sooner and 6.5 took longer.
Especially as changing my tags will trigger my incremental backup to
add a new increment which will be rather large as I have a
UK pricing Dean? And will it be available in the UK on the launch date?
Oh, and do we get a free SB3 too?
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UK pricing Dean?
Isn't this 1USD = 1UKP :-)
I expect the exchange rate for CHF at least 1:1.5 :-(
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I haven't had this working since I retired my old server 18 months ago.
That was running on an ancient version that honoured operating system
specification of hidden files (dot prefix) and the database would not
index cue-sheeted mp3 files
Pale Blue Ego Wrote:
I am also very interested in seeing how this flies with the high-end
community. I think this could be the machine that pushes computer
audio into the audiophile mainstream
Me too, but I think those displays are a mistake. Many audiophiles
dislike anything other than
I echo similar concerns. While it looks very slick, the multiple
buttons and screen dominating the front makes this look less serious
than a typical high end device.
Coming from the Naim school of thought..
CardinalFang Wrote:
Me too, but I think those displays are a mistake. Many
Very good. When is it going to be reviewed by Stereophile? :)
I'm starting saving money... no ice cream for me anymore...
Interesting, if I'd connect it and SB3 to the same outboard DAC, how
much difference in SQ should I expect? Beyond the new features, how
different the digital section in
So, what do you guys think about Thecus N5200? Review say it blows
everything around out of the water performance wise.
Can it be made running SlimServer?
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It'll still cost $1999, though.
-dean
In that case I'll order off the web, take the complimentary SB3 and
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I echo similar concerns. While it looks very slick, the multiple
buttons and screen dominating the front makes this look less serious
than a typical high end device.
Also, I really wish that there was a transport-only option. The price
point is fair for what's inside, but
So, what do you guys think about Thecus N5200?
Just another NAS device. x86 CPU based machines have been around in this
market long before NAS devices entered our homes. They're just getting
back to the roots.
Review say it blows
everything around out of the water performance wise.
awetmore Wrote:
I like the form factor and the front panel buttons and knob. I don't
need the three power supplies, gold plated circuit board, and other
audiophile features. I wish there was a $400 version that looked
roughly like this with a knob and buttons and a single display.
CardinalFang Wrote:
Also, I really wish that there was a transport-only option. The price
point is fair for what's inside, but a lot of that is unnecessary
clutter and stuff that will never get used in my view - I don't need a
DAC, two displays, a fancy wheel and all those buttons, what I
Thanks for above:
it turns out it was a conflict with a driver for a Keyspan networked
USB print server: removing that seems to have fixed everything.
Thanks
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UK price is going to be £1299 inc VAT contact me directly for
pre-orders.
Paul
Fifer Wrote:
UK pricing Dean? And will it be available in the UK on the launch date?
Oh, and do we get a free SB3 too?
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Yup, just saw that on the homepage.
All I want now is a cut down version of the Transporter - doesn't need
the uber-DAC cos I can just plug it into the Arcam AV amp and use the
DAC in that (which is pretty amazing). Perhaps with slightly toned down
styling... although that unit would look great
seanadams Wrote:
This is a hardware/firmware thing, not SlimServer. It's not that it
can't be done on SB3, but it would be a separate engineering effort due
to different hardware in Transporter to facilitate higher sample rates.
Can you clarify Sean - if I have music ripped at 24/96 on my
I think it's an exciting development and I'm seriously considering
whether I can justify it or not (a lot depends on the UK pricing). I
have to confess to being a wee bit disappointed that the pre-order
promo appears to be firmly targeted at new customers only, as most
existing customers are more
rtitmuss Wrote:
Jon, I have had a quick look at the trace and so far it appears to be a
problem with the flac decoder. Do you also get this problem playing
other formats, or just flac?
Thanks,
Richard
Richard,
I have only one mp3 album, but SoftSqueeze played it all the way
through (10
Paul, does the free SB3 offer apply in the UK?
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...but they didn't get Patrick's name right :-)
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Yes, when ordered directly from us.
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Paul, I'm glad to see the UK pricing aligned with the US pricing. Does
the free SB3 offer apply in the UK?
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Fantastic!
Thanks very much :)
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I noticed that, but for a mainstream news report, they didn't do too
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Also, I really wish that there was a transport-only option.
If you don't need the on-board DAC I doubt you will see a signnificant
benefit that will justify the outlay - no doubt someone will eventually
do a high end SB3 +DAC vs Transporter comparison...maybe me in 6
Ahem:
The $1,999 (£1,079) player
Oh really?
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Did you do the Are you happy with the audio quality of MP3 files?
vote. The non audiophile yes voters are winning with 57.82%.
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Are you sure about this? Lets wait for confirmation
Alex
I think it says it here
http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html
at the end of the paragraph 'Astounding Analog'...
In addition, Transporter's digital inputs allow its built-in DAC to be
used with other
rickwookie Wrote:
I don't understand what you mean when you say transport-only option.
Surely if you don't need a DAC then a squeezebox IS that option. This
product is a serious DAC with a squeezebox built in.
Yes, but the SB3 form factor isn't right for me and it doesn't have a
linear PSU
The $1,999 (£1,079) player
Oh really?
That's the writers exchange rate calculation. Paul announced it at
UKP1299, I think.
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The $1,999 (£1,079) player
Oh really?
That's the writers exchange rate calculation. Paul announced it at
UKP1299, I think.
My point exactly!
Although adding 17.5% UK VAT means this is a pretty good deal as electronics
go...
James
CardinalFang Wrote:
it isn't in the same box as the audio components and therefore
potentially affecting audio quality. You can argue whether it does or
not, but if there was no display in the transporter and instead it was
on a remote, then it definitely wouldn't be degrading audio.
I
mherger Wrote:
The $1,999 (£1,079) player
Oh really?
That's the writers exchange rate calculation. Paul announced it at
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Kudos to slim on the new product... looks great and I am sure it sounds
great.. bit out of my current price bracket.. but I think it is a
testament to Slim for their commitment to listening to customers and
looking to cater to their needs.. the number of posts I have read about
high end products,
No, that's the point - it seems to be significantly better then any
other NAS. I'm not talking about DIY PC with Gb, RAID, and bunch of
HDDs. This is a commercially available device, a little expensive, and
if what they talk about it is true - it's first I would really consider
to buy.
BTW -
amrace Wrote:
Did you do the Are you happy with the audio quality of MP3 files?
vote. The non audiophile yes voters are winning with 57.82%.
I must be one of those non-audiophiles then because my squeezebox
digital output into my Proceed AVP and NAIM 82/180/SBLs rocks.
Without getting silly
rickwookie Wrote:
I think they've probably gone out of their way to ensure that there is
no noise from the display
I'm sure they have, but the audiophile community is pretty picky about
stuff like that and you have to convince them that 2 displays are a
good move in a high-end player. Be
I read these forums before deciding to buy, and I'm really glad that I
did. The troubles that you read on here are no worse than you find on
any wireless networking forum and given the number of computer /
operating system / router types and combinations it seems logical that
some sytems may
I'm pretty sure SD people got ready for complaints regarding the
direction their design is heading - there is no high fidelity device on
earth that wouldn't produce at least some negative comments. That's just
perfectly normal.
I'm not interested in built-in DAC either, unless it confirmed to
I love my various SB's and with some effort, have gotten a reasonable
WAF. But the one factor that continues to be a problem is the display.
As good as it is, (especially compared to other devices), it can't show
long album/track names without scrolling.
Yes, I know you can shrink the font, but
Congratulations - this isn't for me (theres no way I could drop that much on a player) but it's a supurb product. With the stable, fast, Slimserver (lets hope) that is promised by 6.5 this will redefine the market.
I've never been a great fan of the industrial design of the squeezebox in either
OK, it's been a while, but I have now successfully upgraded to the
latest nightly and YES! the single-word hostname works now. Strangely,
localhost no longer seemed to work but that doesn't worry me too much.
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Simon Still Wrote:
Even the remote looks a cut above (and much more of a match for the SB3
than
the current model - after market upgrade anyone?)
Agreed... but can the new remote work with SB3 .. would assume so..
can slim release better pics of the remote .. plus images with the
ajmitchell Wrote:
Are you sure about this? Lets wait for confirmation
Yes, on the detailed specs page it lists inputs to the dac.
Digital Outputs and Inputs
Optical, coax, BNC, and XLR digital connectors
Word clock input for synchronization with an external clock
Linear-regulated power
Hi,
I have around, I dunno, 6 thousand songs at last count mosty from
ripping my CD collection, and I'd like to be able to play higher rated
songs some of the time.
However, I'm never going to get round to rating that many songs in this
lifetime!! So, I'm looking for a way to auto-rate all my
The problem with the MP3 poll is the majority of people listen to music
on stereos, walkmen, etc. Even the home hi-fi system is likely to
be anything but. For goodness sake why do most people just look for the
highest wattage speakers without taken into account, peak, RMS, or
THD.
I remeber the
No, that's the point - it seems to be significantly better then any
other NAS.
...in its class, maybe. It's based on a Celeron? There are devices out
there with dual (or even quad) Dual Core Xeons.
I'm not talking about DIY PC with Gb, RAID, and bunch of
Neither am I. I've been trying to
It's interesting that the track Slim picked to display in the product
photography for the Transporter is one that apparently suffers from
over-loud mastering. Notice the clipping left channel? :-)
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Now I am intrigued:
There is some new Qnap product news in the next couple of weeks - I'll
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What's your point, man? Even if you list all industrial grade servers
available I won't be impressed by your knowledge, becouse I was sure
it's quite clear they are out of the context. Sorry I didn't mention
I'm talking about consumer grade NAS.
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Another vote for the advanced remote. I like the look of the new
transporter, but probably couldn't justify the price.
I've got several SB's around the house, but as most of my kit is hidden
away in cupboards, the Sonos seems more appropriate to me. I do like the
Slim kit, though, and as I've
I assume your keypads don't have any data feedback
(playlist/artist/track) from the SB so you must be controlling this
from either a PC/handheld or from the SB itself?
Kyle Wrote:
I have one SB in the den with the analog outputs going into my Russound
whole house system and the digital (coax)
Why does it say on the display Squeezebox V2 when I have a V3 player?
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Not at all. It is aimed at audiophiles and they regularly spend
unimaginable amounts of money.
The Audiophile magazines regularly review turntables that cost
$10,000, and a favorite costs $75,000.
You're just not the target market.
You got that I right I'm not the
What's your point, man?
You asked So, what do you guys think about Thecus N5200? - my answer was
Just another NAS device. (hey, that's just my opinion - no offence
intended). To which you replied No, that's the point - it seems to be
significantly better then any other NAS..
So my point
Why does it say on the display Squeezebox V2 when I have a V3 player?
Because the SB3 is a diguised SB2 - they use the same firmware, have the
same electronics etc. Theoretically it should display the correct player
type, but it's nothing to worry about.
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The underlying architecture of the SB2 and the SB3 is identical. The
changes from SB2 to SB3 relate to the form of the product.
See:
http://faq.slimdevices.com/index.php?action=artikelcat=1id=6artlang=enhighlight=architecture
or
CardinalFang Wrote:
I think it will have a tough time against an SB3 plus a $1500 DAC. OK,
so you can use the Transport DAC for other inputs, but audiophiles will
most likely already have a DAC at this price point.
Thinking about it some more, I'm really disappointed. I'm in the
bprager Wrote:
I love my various SB's and with some effort, have gotten a reasonable
WAF. But the one factor that continues to be a problem is the display.
As good as it is, (especially compared to other devices), it can't show
long album/track names without scrolling.
Yes, I know you can
I have the same requirment. I would love to wall mount a control unit
that allows touchscreen entry. But a better remote would be a start
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Are Apple ever likely to make their songs playable on a SB without
having to write them onto a CD and re import them? I would be much more
inclined to buy ITunes songs if they did. Apple are now talking about a
lossless compression option for their purchased downloads, I wonder if
they will be SB
tamanaco Wrote:
I want a Wi-Fi/IR/RF SB Universal remote to be the center piece of my
AV system as it would be only component that'd need to interact from
anywhere I sit in my one bedroom NYC apartment. I'm sure it would make
the place seem bigger than it really is... I can already see
New product Transporter looks great for the high end.
Might upgrade my SB3 to it if I can save enough money.
But what about the low end.
If slim took the core of the SB3, maybe downgraded some components,
bolted some speakers on, enhanced clock/timer and the ability to run
off batteries.
The new remote for the Transporter ...
1. Will it work with the Squeezebox?
2. Does it have a matte finish on the faceplate?
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Hi,
You need to download the All-In-One Slimserver update via Opera or
Firefox (IE cuts off the .gz extension) once you have this installed
you can download the 6.3.1 update which just has the .tar file
extension.
Thanks
Re the above comment from Paul, I have always
Don't know what happened. It started when I was using the SB3 to select
a radio station via SqueezeNetwork (SN). Suddenly the display filled
with the Spectrum Analyzer (SA).
The SA is only there while I'm logged into SN. It shows up behind every
menu display. The only time it doesn't appear is
http://www.allmusic.com/ has ratings (whether you agree or not is
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I have no doubt there is a market for this, but one thing is for sure;
they will really have to sort out SlimServer. I love it, but it has
faults and bugs. Those bugs are annoying with the SB3, but if i had
forked out $2000 (plus the other few grand for app/speakers to
Don't know what happened. It started when I was using the SB3 to select
a radio station via SqueezeNetwork (SN). Suddenly the display filled
with the Spectrum Analyzer (SA).
Hit the Now Playing button repeatedly to flip through the different
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Ok now that the transporter has been announced and supports 24/96 source
material. Where are people getting music in this format. CDs are only
recorded in 16/44 sure you could rip them to 24/96 FLAC but that would
give you nothing. I have a few CDs that have DVD-Audio verisons on the
flip side
It should be straightforward to hook a transcode option into SlimServer
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Am I the only one that has a major issue with this equipment costing
$2000?
I'm all about the new design and hardware, but... all of us knowing how
much it costs to build a high-end PC from scratch, even with a quality
soundcard and huge flat panel display... I feel that $2K
el payo Wrote:
In that case I'll order off the web, take the complimentary SB3 and
1. List it on eBay
2. ??
3. Profit!
LOL!
We have SB3 gnomes in the forum!!
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Fifer Wrote:
I noticed that, but for a mainstream news report, they didn't do too
badly on the detail.
Mmmm...
The $1,999 (£1,079) player is aimed at people who encode music using
so-called lossless formats, such as Flac or Wav.
FLAC is an acronym, Free Lossless Audio Codec, and should be
Don't get too excited ;) but it might offer a solution for people who
don't want to go for say 4x drives but may want 2x drives in their NAS
box. And that is all I can say ;)
Paul
Paul_B Wrote:
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CardinalFang wrote:
As I said a clean-looking, uncluttered standard sized audio component
with a graphical remote control. The transport would not have a DAC,
but would have high grade power supplies, components and socketry. With
it I'd want a Sonos-like remote so I can browse music from where
allmusic.com is a useful site, thanks. Just been having a look around. I
like the similar artists section, but anyh
What I'm looking for is a way to Automatically populate all my ratings
(at least my unrated tracks) so I can go away and tweak them at my
leisure (or never :-).
I don't
I think allmusic.com or amazon.com are your best bet, but I haven't seen
any software that would retreive the rating information from these
sites. The problem is to retreive the ratings from the web, when you
have the ratings there are several tools available to set the ratings
in slimserver,
octavian wrote:
Are Apple ever likely to make their songs playable on a SB without
having to write them onto a CD and re import them? I would be much more
inclined to buy ITunes songs if they did. Apple are now talking about a
lossless compression option for their purchased downloads, I wonder
mherger Wrote:
Hit the Now Playing button repeatedly to flip through the different
display modes.
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Thanks for that. Is that in the manual somewhere?
Yup - page 19.
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That article also lets slip another detail which was discussed a while
ago - Slim's sales figures. The article states they have almost 50k
customers, if we assume an average of 2 players per customer we get
100k players sold.
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ajmitchell Wrote:
I have to agree with FL here, if the high end DACs in the transporter
could be used for other components (via digital input) this would be a
killer app.
They can, that's what the digital inputs are for :) And you don't need
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On 7/25/06, leggm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
New product Transporter looks great for the high end.Might upgrade my SB3 to it if I can save enough money.
But what about the low end.If slim took the core of the SB3, maybe downgraded some components,bolted some speakers on, enhanced clock/timer and
I agree 100% with you.
A high-end product is for audiophiles only and they will never be happy
with it !!!
On the other end, it would be really great to have a simple squeezebox
with built-in amplifier and integrated speakers (and maybe an FM
tuner), to move it from the bath-room to the
On 7/25/06, Jig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...I would have thought most of the technology is proprietary perhaps itcould even be done with a Wireless PDA?It can and frequently is. Search the fourm, you'll find that lots of people use wireless PDAs as remotes with the Handheld, Touch, or Nokia770
Two reasons: I have had experience of programs complaining of
non-standard tagging in the past and also because any change will be
detected by my backup software and cause a needlessly bloated
incremental backup. That said I gave up and did the tagging which took
seconds I've just disabled my
All music must be enjoyed by someone so how would the rating system know
if YOU liked it or not? You could if you collected mean likeability
produce overall popularity - but is Britney Spears really 1000 times
better than David Gray based. No that idea is that you process
your.I am sure you
Equipment
SB3 with firmware V55
Speedtouch wireless router 716WL
Linksys Range expander WRE54G
The music server has a wired connection to the router which then
communicates (wirelessly) via the range expander to the SB.
The problem I am experiencing is that (randomly) the
connection will
radish Wrote:
That article also lets slip another detail which was discussed a while
ago - Slim's sales figures. The article states they have almost 50k
customers, if we assume an average of 2 players per customer we get
100k players sold.
I don't reckon two players per buyer is a reasonable
Why not $700?
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Equipment
SB3 with firmware V55
Speedtouch wireless router 716WL
Linksys Range expander WRE54G
The music server has a wired connection to the router which then
communicates (wirelessly) via the range expander to the SB.
The problem I am experiencing is that (randomly) the
Marc Sherman Wrote:
Slim needs to come out with a snap on front plate that locks over top
of
the transporters front panel, hiding the displays, buttons, and the
knob. All it needs is a logo painted on and an extension lens for the
IR
receiver. Since it's an audiophile accessory, they
I agree. Awesome, beautiful, component if you can afford it, but the
first hacks and PS upgrades will be out before October 1st! :-)
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