Re: [slim] FF REW improvements w/ Duet and SC7
With SC7 coming out and some new hardware, will the fast-forward and rewind capability be better than SlimServer 6.5? I hope not - SC7 FF/REW is near-perfect already in SC7 for me. What issues do you have with SS6.5 fast-forwarding? Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FF REW improvements w/ Duet and SC7
Hi seanadams [EMAIL PROTECTED], but we have some improvements in the works too. Is this the improvements that were suggested in the beta forum, whereby it was suggested to remove audio feedback and manual acceleration? There hasn't been any additional feedback in that thread for a while. Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless network improvements DD-WRT
Hi all, I've not been getting great signal around the house for my SB's, I purchased a set of high gain antenna http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-High-Gain-Antenna-HGA7T/dp/B000B6F9CW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1199867322sr=8-1 but they didn't really make much difference, and so decided to upgrade my WRT54GS version 6 to DD-WRT micro as in http://www.wrtrouters.com/guides/upgradetolinux/ it seems to be working fine, but I still don't really seem to have achieved any increase in signal strength? What are my options? and as in another thread, have now lost internet. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41963 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet videos
Here is another one: http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31879.html I would like a video of someone using the SBR one-handed. -- pichonCalavera *rip* (eac) *convert* (flac) *tag* (musicbrainz) *normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000) *albumart* (winamp) *transport* (winscp) *store* (debian) *rescan* (slimserver) *play* (squeezebox) *hear* (sennheiser) *scrooble* (last.fm) *enjoy* (me :) pichonCalavera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13068 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41894 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Mark Lanctot;256068 Wrote: ... It's interesting to note that Logitech SMS does closely listen to requests on this forum, the graphical wifi remote and the headless SB have been requested for ~2 years. Thanks for noticing! There is an awful lot of the community's input in both Duet and in SC7. I'm a bit surprised no one else has mentioned that. -= Jim -- JimC well, she wasn't all of that, but she sure was some of that. -- BKlaas' college buddy JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Virgin broadband and DD-WRT
Please Help!!! I've just upgraded my WRT54GS version 6 to DD-WRT micro. I have a cable modem for my virgin broadband, and the router plugged into that. stupidly I didn't really check all the changes and settings i'd put into my wireless to get it working, before flashing and upgrading. now the wireless router works, my SB's work fine, the internet light is on on the wireless router, but the computer can't get internet, haven't checked if the SB's can connect to SN (should have done that). What should my settings be on my wireless router? Virgin aren't much help as they now seem to want you to use their wireless routers. am I using it as a gateway or a router as far as DD-WRT is concerned? Absolutely anything would be most appreciated as i'm completely lost with it all. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41964 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
NFLnut;2562390 You have, IMO way overpriced the controller and using Sonos prices of their products is a serious mistake in determining the price of YOURS. You may have no problems selling that $300 remote to your Transporter customers, but I doubt that you will sell many to your Squeezebox customers. 'Just a thought ..[/QUOTE Wrote: We didn't price based on Sonos, I can assure you. I think Mike was reacting to the issues raised in comparing the SBC to all kinds of other CE devices that may or may not be related to the SBC to explain why the controller should be less expensive. -= Jim -- JimC well, she wasn't all of that, but she sure was some of that. -- BKlaas' college buddy JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter vs. SB3 - my experience
JJZolx;256272 Wrote: If you don't use the knob or the buttons, don't use or switch to and from the digital inputs, then it seems to work just about flawlessly. Once you begin using the features that make it functionally unique from a Squeezebox, then you may see some of the problems. I'll just point out that my Transporter has worked pretty much flawlessly since day one (I got it in December 2006), and I *do* switch to from the digital inputs, although I have probably touched the knob buttons less than a dozen times in total. (And I use it via wired Ethernet, not wireless - maybe that could be a factor). -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Virgin broadband and DD-WRT
Gibbo;256284 Wrote: Please Help!!! I have a cable modem for my virgin broadband, and the router plugged into that. stupidly I didn't really check all the changes and settings i'd put into my wireless to get it working, before flashing and upgrading. now the wireless router works, my SB's work fine, the internet light is on on the wireless router, but the computer can't get internet, haven't checked if the SB's can connect to SN (should have done that). What should my settings be on my wireless router? Virgin aren't much help as they now seem to want you to use their wireless routers. am I using it as a gateway or a router as far as DD-WRT is concerned? Absolutely anything would be most appreciated as i'm completely lost with it all. I have virgin media broadband(Manchester UK) and all I have ever had to do is plug in the cable modem into the router, no additional settings have ever been required. If the router says it is connected to the internet then it sounds like there is something wrong at the computers end, have you ensured that the computer is connecting correctly. What security settings do you have on the router (WPA/WEP?). Funnily enough yesterday morning after returning from holiday I had exactly the same problem (i.e. router says it was connected to internet but the computer wouldn't connect). It resolved its self in about 30mins and I put it down to a VM glitch. -- mattybain '[image: http://imagegen.last.fm/recenttracks3/recenttracks/MattyBain.gif]' (http://www.last.fm/user/MattyBain/?chartstyle=recenttracks3) mattybain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41964 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
Ramage;255869 Wrote: Deano, did you get a refund? I had an email from Pandora last night offering me a refund on the unused portion of my subscription despite not having asked for one - can't say much fairer than that. I intend keeping the remainder of my subscription running to see if I can access Pandora through alternate addresses so I probably won't take them up on the refund although it was nice of them to offer. -- Jungle They say that laughter is the best medicine but, if you're an asthmatic, ventolin is probably a better bet. Jungle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver logging
Hi, can Slimserver support logging? I want to use many Squeezebox clients, and be able to get logging on the server on which client asked for which mp3, and when. Thanks -- orbyone orbyone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14875 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41965 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet videos
pichonCalavera;256281 Wrote: Here is another one: http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31879.html I would like a video of someone using the SBR one-handed. I found that I couldn't when scrolling through music, you needed to use a finger rather than your thumb to turn the wheel quickly. Also the wheel could do with some bumps on it to aid grip. That might change with the accelerated scrolling, but it's still not up there with an iPod touch for finding music. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41894 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Virgin broadband and DD-WRT
I've just been reading through the virgin site adn I think there is a chance i've found the problem. the cable modem is locked to one ip address, the ip address of my router has now changed, hopefully switching off the modem for more than 2 minutes resets this. fingers crossed for tonight. otherwise i'm still stumped. Thanks for the reply. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41964 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Receiver with no display - why?
I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the new receiver. I understand that the controller now does all the display work, but can't see how this removes the need for a display on the receiver itself. The controller provides a great interface for selecting and browsing music, but I find the Squeezebox's display invaluable for actually seeing what is being played. With multi-room audio, this is especially an issue, as you get the possibility of one room's audio being programmed from somewhere completely different. Without a display on the receiver, how do people in the room know what they're listening to? Max -- max.spicer What do we want? Smoother Analog VU with FLAC! When do we want it? At the soonest possible convenience to the hard-working yet undervalued Slim Developers. ;-) max.spicer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41966 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Hi, this new controller seems nice. I currently have a SB2 setup at home, but find the display hard to read from some distance. I also like the album art display. I have a few questions: - Is it possible to control SoftSqueeze from the squeezebox controller? http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SoftSqueeze - Why dont you make a kitchen radio/music player for me? :) (Henry kloss style, only buttons and display, no remote, good mono speaker (Fostex FE107E or similiar) I want to listen to internet radio and my music collection in my kitchen as well. I would pay about $400 for such a device I think. If it is possible to control Softsqueeze from the controller, I might be able to take the SB2 out of my main system and hack together my own kitchen player from its parts. best regards, Øyvin Eikeland -- oyvine oyvine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12176 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?
Put a screen on it and you have a SB3 as far as 99.9% of people are concerned. Plus apparently the screen is the expensive part, so no screen means they can provide the receiver as a low cost option. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41966 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter - Album artist index for non-english text
My problem is : Chinese album index letters are gone, this happened from SC 7.0 some nightly version, please see the screen shots. The same situation for the Artists list. +---+ |Filename: album list.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4002| +---+ -- TheTurtle TheTurtle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Virgin broadband and DD-WRT
I was pretty sure that the modem is not tied to an ip address and changes periodically. However turning it off and back on will probably work, that is what did it for me yesterday. -- mattybain '[image: http://imagegen.last.fm/recenttracks3/recenttracks/MattyBain.gif]' (http://www.last.fm/user/MattyBain/?chartstyle=recenttracks3) mattybain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41964 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Not sure if this is the right place to post, but will the final version of the controller support MusicIP mixes? It's the one thing missing from my current Jive install which keeps me using the supplied remote. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with issues installing Slim Server 6.5.4.
Hi Groovit, The IP will depend on your network setup. Since you are on XP, Start Menu - Run - type cmd into the window and hit ok. Then when the command window comes up, type ipconfig This will then tell you the IP address. It sounds like your installation is totally mashed! I would recommend that you temporarily disable any firewall/anti virus software you have and run the install again, sometimes the install may appear to have frozen but its actually doing stuff in the background so leave it for a few minutes and hopefully it will complete :) -- cparker www.spicefly.com - Visit for an enhanced Interface for MusicIP and tips and tricks for integrating with Slimserver! cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39116 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
- Is it possible to control SoftSqueeze from the squeezebox controller? Sure. - Why dont you make a kitchen radio/music player for me? Why questions are hard to answer... Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?
I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the new receiver. Because users have been asking for this kind of device. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter - Album artist index for non-english text
My problem is : Chinese album index letters are gone, this happened from SC 7.0 some nightly version, please see the screen shots. The same situation for the Artists list. Do you have a rough idea when this happened? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
To whom it may concern: You've got a couple of typos on the Squeezebox Controller and Squeezebox Receiver links on the right hand side of this page: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_overview.html Thought you'd like to know! -- jeebers jeebers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet videos
CardinalFang;256294 Wrote: it's still not up there with an iPod touch for finding music. Maybe not, but it's still much better than the iPod classic/5.5. Maybe one of us beta testers could upload a video, if Logitech did not mind? -- autopilot SLIMSERVER:[/B] 7.0 APLHA (WINDOWS XP) + ALIENBBC, SLIMSCROBBLER LAST.FM. *AMP:* CAMBRIDGE AUDIO 640A (LIVING ROOM) / DENON MD30 (BEDROOM). *SPEAKERS:* MISSION 701'S (LIVING ROOM) / KEF CRESTA 1'S (BEDROOM). *REMOTE:* T-MOBILE MDA VARIO / HARMONY 525 (IR) / *BETA TESTING JIVE REMOTE. [B]Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41894 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter - Album artist index for non-english text
I have no problem with chinese text album/artist with SC 6 Jan nightly. Is the chinese text shown in other skins, i.e default, classic? -- auronthas Auronthas Tajima Power Conditioner #61614; Squeezebox 3 / Cambridge Audio 540C V2 #61614; Van den Hul The Source #61614; Cambridge Audio 540A #61614; Van den Hul Goldwater / Ortofon SPK 200 #61614; Sonus Faber Concertino Domus Dell Inspiron 640m #61614; Window Vista #61614; SC 7.0 - 15939(Nightly release 6 Jan) #61614; Aztech DSL600EW (ADSL2/2, Wireless 802.11b/g 125Mbps 4-port ethernet router) SqueezeCenter Version: Firmware: 84 http://www.last.fm/user/auronthas/ auronthas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter vs. SB3 - my experience
I wish my Transporter was working flawlessly. :( Some of the various issues I've been finding with it, are mentioned in the Transporter issues thread in this General Discussion forum. For instance, approximately 30 minutes ago, the volume knob completely stopped functioning AGAIN, this time after switching between internet radio and my local music library. About 4 hours ago, the Transporter competely locked up AGAIN and required a power-cycle to regain normal functionality. This time I didn't need to physically unplug the machine to fix it, but you can probably imagine how this is still frustrating/irritating when it happens, repeatedly over time, and especially when you really REALLY want it to work well! The extra features of the Transporter that distinguish it from the SB3, are very important IMO (especially the front buttons/knob) and conceptually make it a terrific and family-friendly audio device. These extra features are also supposed to be worth about $1700 simoleons more than the SB3. So why can't the end-user be reasonably expected and advised to use them without trouble. I would even be willing to pay a bit more than this extra premium, if these features would work flawlessly on a (reasonably) consistent basis. When this Transporter works well, I love the thing! However when it does NOT work well, which is sadly frequent, I get depressed about needing to reconsider the 30-day return policy. I am so extremely impressed with SD/L for creating these genius products and software. They are absolutely stunning achievements for everyone involved, especially us end-users. I guess that I just wish, that I wasn't now needing to think so dang hard about whether I can justify the significant (for me) extra cost for the Transporter. It is obviously such an amazing device, but also currently has these very disturbing quirks that may or may not ever be fixed, if they are even fixable. I wonder what others can please advise here. What would you do? -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Regarding the price, while i dont fully understand why the SBC its so much more expensive than the SBR (other than logitech's product strategy), lets not get too hung up on it - we should all know by now that manufactures RRP is not often actually what you end up paying - and this is especially true with Logitech in my experience. So when you see it on DAB's or Bestbuy cheaper you think great and buy one. And the RRP will come down anyway, once the RD is recouped. I have always just seen RRP's as a guide to what you should not pay more than. -- autopilot SLIMSERVER:[/B] 7.0 APLHA (WINDOWS XP) + ALIENBBC, SLIMSCROBBLER LAST.FM. *AMP:* CAMBRIDGE AUDIO 640A (LIVING ROOM) / DENON MD30 (BEDROOM). *SPEAKERS:* MISSION 701'S (LIVING ROOM) / KEF CRESTA 1'S (BEDROOM). *REMOTE:* T-MOBILE MDA VARIO / HARMONY 525 (IR) / *BETA TESTING JIVE REMOTE. [B]Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Also regarding the lack of working headphone on release - could it not be that this is partly because logitech dont actually want the controller to be perceived as a portable squeezebox that can control other SB's, rather than a brilliant controller that can also play music? The latter is better IMO - if people wanted a portable SB they would be a little disappointed, if they wanted a controller that does other stuff they would be amazed by it :) I cant wait for a version of Soft Squeeze running on it. I have always looked at it and thought 'what if' - one of the first questions i asked after getting my beta SBC was 'can i listen to music through it?' Mainly, i would like a sort of basic DJ feature (although i was thinking more about using the headphones). Thats just one of lots of reasons i cant wait to see the software added to play music on the controller, such as listening to the Cricket results/commentary without interrupting my GF's TV show and still be able to stay on the Sofa with her. Or listening to my tunes/podcasts while moving the lawn. Or jacking it into a boombox... The list is endless. Hopefully a version of Softsqueeze be be available for the Jive platform eventually (if its not already in early development already ;)), especially given how much interest there already is around it. -- autopilot SLIMSERVER:[/B] 7.0 APLHA (WINDOWS XP) + ALIENBBC, SLIMSCROBBLER LAST.FM. *AMP:* CAMBRIDGE AUDIO 640A (LIVING ROOM) / DENON MD30 (BEDROOM). *SPEAKERS:* MISSION 701'S (LIVING ROOM) / KEF CRESTA 1'S (BEDROOM). *REMOTE:* T-MOBILE MDA VARIO / HARMONY 525 (IR) / *BETA TESTING JIVE REMOTE. [B]Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
You've got a couple of typos on the Squeezebox Controller and Squeezebox Receiver links on the right hand side of this page: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_overview.html Thanks! -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How to order accessories?
Hi! I'm in Sweden. How do I order a Backlit Infrared Remote for Squeezebox? Cant't do it from Slimdevices and it's not listed on Logitech. Kind Regards /Bernt -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
JJZolx;256224 Wrote: That's certainly not the impression that I've gotten recently in (probably) those same forums. Certainly, the _potential_ for better sound reproduction lies with having an external DAC, but a lot of audiphiles are running systems with professional sound cards and are quite happy with the sound. That direction of discussion, though, probably isn't relevant to the vast majority of multi-zone audio systems, which are seldom set up with the best sound quality as a priority. Spending $400 to $1000 per sound card per zone wouldn't doesn't much sense when using inexpensive in-wall speakers and a cheap amp. Just what I was about to post! I happened to have the m-audio left over from a previous HTPC build and found it fit for purpose. If it had not been to hand, I would most likely have used a cheap sound blaster or similar. Given that this is for whole house audio using budget amps and mix and match speakers, the set up is more than adequate. (For serious listening, a more serious system would be advised). Having said that, I'm more than happy with the sound quality, given that it's always background in any case. One could install RME or higher end sound cards for beter output. Peter -- meep meep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12744 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver logging
Logging is available in Server Settings, Debugging. You can turn logging for each of many items on individually. I am not sure which ones you would want turned on to cover your needs. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41965 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver logging
Or, if your files are tagged, you could set each Squeezebox up to use a different Audioscrobbler account and monitor them that way - although the data would then be publicly available (to anyone who knew the account names) and you can't use it for commercial purposes without a separate licence. http://www.audioscrobbler.net/data/webservices/ -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41965 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless network improvements DD-WRT
What channel is your AP on? You may not have a lack of signal strength, but have too much noise in your area that is masking the signal. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41963 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
I'd be interested to find out exactly how much the record companies where after. How much, exactly, is too much ? How inventive where Pandora in their negotiations ? After all, our saved radio stations would be valuable information to a record companies marketing department. And I was always amazed, as a subscriber, that totally free access was given, for the sake of a very unintrusive advert. With no real incentive for people to subscribe, the monies where never going to come in. My insight into their business model is only what I see as a consumer, but it doesn't seem like a great one to me. I must have told a dozen people about the Pandora service, all of whom would have happily paid for a subscription at Pandora's nominal rates, but didn't, simply because there was no need to. And no, none of us were motivated to buy a BigMac either ;o) If you gave out a free trial period of a few hours play, and then charged everyone to keep the service, I'd expect the user retention rate would of been pretty high. I'd have happily paid £10 a month for the service. With real money coming into their coffers, they'd have been in a stronger position. -- yockers yockers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5075 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Also regarding the lack of working headphone on release - could it not be that this is partly because logitech dont actually want the controller to be perceived as a portable squeezebox, Unlikely since there is still optimisation development ongoing. Even when that is finished there are other consideration for audio: 1. There is limited CPU power available and if streaming audio impacts controller functionality then it may not be feasible as a production feature. 2. It has been stated that if audio is supported it will not be Softsqueeze but another (more efficient ?) architecture - that has yet to be developed. 3. Battery power when continuously streaming audio over wifi will probably be very short - so most likely have to be use SBC in a cradle when streaming audio. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
Yockers, The actual royalty payments are fixed by the UK Copyright Tribunal - no room for negotiation. The problem is that the royalty format put forward in the UK by the MCPS/PRS doesn't take account of the Pandora model - it is a 'per song' format but is required each time a song is played. Pandora serves up individual streams, and plays the same song many times over, so each song played to each user essentially requires a separate licence. The most detailed analysis I've seen is on one of the Media blogs - can't comment on the accuracy of his UK user base figures but the royalty payment figures are correct: Robert Andrews Wrote: For background, the online license from the MCPS-PRS alone - which collects royalties on music and lyrics for songwriters, publishers and composers - asks interactive webcasters to pay either 6.5 percent of company revenue, or, if its greater, a minimum total of microfees (£0.085 per song streamed, £0.22 per premium customer per month). With 2007 revenues of $14 million (£7 million), Pandora would seemingly have been asked to pay a 6.5 percent charge of around £455,000 to MCPS-PRS. But, because the millions of songs it serves to user simultaneously rack up royalty microfees totalling in excess of that, its forced to pay significantly more. Pandora doesnt have concrete figures for its UK userbase, at best guesstimating in the low hundreds of thousands. So, for a back-of-the-envelope calculation if 200,000 users played 30 songs a month (just one a day), at MCPS-PRS cost of £0.085 each, Pandora would appear to owe £510,000 per month, or £6.1 million a year. http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-more-on-pandora-doing-the-math-on-quitting-uk1/ That's a lot of £10... -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?
It seems pretty obvious to me. if you want a screen, then buy a SB3 and a jive controller. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41966 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet videos
autopilot;256322 Wrote: Maybe not, but it's still much better than the iPod classic/5.5. Maybe one of us beta testers could upload a video, if Logitech did not mind? I dropped them a line suggesting that a few days ago but didn't get a reply yet. I'd think a quick 2 minute video showing the menus, now playing, etc would answer a lot of the questions floating around - and show exactly why this isn't comparable to an iPhone/iPod/N800/whatever running a web skin. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41894 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
ezkcdude;256353 Wrote: Will the controller be able to turn the receiver on/off? I have a jive remote now, and one of the things that bothers me is that it can't turn the SB3 on (or off). I have to use the IR remote or SlimServer. Really? I can with my beta Jive remote, i have been able to from day zero - its right there on the main menu - or do you mean something else? -- autopilot SLIMSERVER:[/B] 7.0 APLHA (WINDOWS XP) + ALIENBBC, SLIMSCROBBLER LAST.FM. *AMP:* CAMBRIDGE AUDIO 640A (LIVING ROOM) / DENON MD30 (BEDROOM). *SPEAKERS:* MISSION 701'S (LIVING ROOM) / KEF CRESTA 1'S (BEDROOM). *REMOTE:* T-MOBILE MDA VARIO / HARMONY 525 (IR) / *BETA TESTING JIVE REMOTE. [B]Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless network improvements DD-WRT
Maybe it is worth trying a new channel, i'm using channel 1. the only networks I can see are on 6 and 9 from 2 neighbours. it is strange, the new setup etc tells me signal quality, and although both the SB's are at around 70 signal at the moment, the router says that they are only at about 30% quality. the router is standing next to my computer and the computer is only getting a 65 % quality connection? maybe noise is the main issue. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41963 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Will the controller be able to turn the receiver on/off? I have a jive remote now, and one of the things that bothers me is that it can't turn the SB3 on (or off). I have to use the IR remote or SlimServer. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Controller and SB3
Maybe this has been covered elsewhere but is there any plan to release a box set duet type discounted thingy, with a controller and a SB3 rather than a receiver? -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to order accessories?
I have the same problem, only I'm in Denmark. It's been a problem for a while now (months). -- Husted Husted's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
Hi, first of all i would like to thank you for your response on this thread. Besides on this, i think that this is a good opportunity to start a thread related to performance / scalability / reliability / stability of slim server while talking for providing a service (mp3 library service or playlists/ internet radio service) where many squeezeboxes will be able to connect to. As far as i understood (please correct if i am doing wrong) delivering content on squezeeboxes is only possible trough the slim server. The squeezebox can connect only to a slim server and get local mp3 files, other playlists (where content may located on remote servers), or get live internet radio stations where are relayed by the slim server. So, even if the real content is not hosted on the slim server, it is delivered/realyed through the slim server. If this is true then this kind of service (which is based on slim server) doesnt scale (it only scales when you drive different squeezeboxes to connect to different instances of slim servers - but this manually solution is not viable). Please correct me if i am doing wrong. So, is it possible to provide a service where the squeezebox will connect to on a different software server? (e.g. QuickTime Streaming server, windows media services, etc.. ? ) does anybody has any experience on this? -- moschous moschous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
Meep and JJZolx, I have to agree that most mutliroom systems are for background music/radio. But I hate that: elevator music, musical wallpaper or whatever you want to call it drives me up a wall. I'd vastly prefer silence, but those are just my oddities. When I first read of your system, I was quite interested in it and tried to investigate further. It does make a lot of sense $-wise. Hence my question regarding a comparison of the sound with the Squeeze3. Events may have overtaken this thread with the announcement of the $150 Squeeze reciever. JJZolx, if you can point me to comparisons of sound cards to external DACs I'd be appreciative. My investigations didn't turn up any. I know that folks have talked favorablely about 5.1 and 7.1 sound cards, but those would not work in this type of system--multi independent stereo outputs are needed as I understand it. George -- gsawdy gsawdy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14330 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
The only reason I might want a working speaker/speaker plug and support for streamed music in the Controller is to sample tracks from my library as build Dynamic Playlists. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
moschous;256367 Wrote: Hi, first of all i would like to thank you for your response on this thread. Besides on this, i think that this is a good opportunity to start a thread related to performance / scalability / reliability / stability of slim server while talking for providing a service (mp3 library service or playlists/ internet radio service) where many squeezeboxes will be able to connect to. As far as i understood (please correct if i am doing wrong) delivering content on squezeeboxes is only possible trough the slim server. The squeezebox can connect only to a slim server and get local mp3 files, other playlists (where content may located on remote servers), or get live internet radio stations where are relayed by the slim server. So, even if the real content is not hosted on the slim server, it is delivered/realyed through the slim server. If this is true then this kind of service (which is based on slim server) doesnt scale (it only scales when you drive different squeezeboxes to connect to different instances of slim servers - but this manually solution is not viable). Please correct me if i am doing wrong. So, is it possible to provide a service where the squeezebox will connect to on a different software server? (e.g. QuickTime Streaming server, windows media services, etc.. ? ) does anybody has any experience on this? Interesting question. I would think that the gist of it would be, On one server computer, how much CPU and memory can you throw at it before the SlimServer software cannot make any more use of the incremental horsepower? If the constraint is really the hardware rather than the software, then one could scale as much as current hardware capabilities allow under a given budget. Of course, multiple networks might be required to provide the necessary bandwidth. Perhaps one of the developers could chime in on this. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
It seems Logitech might've been very close to indeed making a portable Squeezebox. From the pictures of the controller it doesn't look like it has an accessory connector at the bottom between the charging pins, which is a shame, because a set of powered speakers that the controller could plug into ala iPod would be fantastic. With an SD card slot (hopefully SDHC)could there be an option to store some music locally and say, connect it to your car? I'm not interested in the Duet combo, since I have 2 SB3s as it is and don't want quite see the need in my current setup (I don't even use my N800 with it that much). If I could take it with me then I might be interested in a controller as the much desired portable Squeezebox. -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.4 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux would've been too easy! 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
gsawdy;256371 Wrote: Meep and JJZolx, I have to agree that most mutliroom systems are for background music/radio. But I hate that: elevator music, musical wallpaper or whatever you want to call it drives me up a wall. I'd vastly prefer silence, but those are just my oddities. When I first read of your system, I was quite interested in it and tried to investigate further. It does make a lot of sense $-wise. Hence my question regarding a comparison of the sound with the Squeeze3. George When I get a Squeezebox, I will certainly post subjective comparison. The thing is, if you have a PC serving tunes anyway, why not leverage it as your playback system as well (for a small extra outlay). Regarding sound quality, in the past I have used ASIO drivers to bypass the windows kmixer on the m-audio card. This negates many of the arguments against onboard decoding (resampling!) and provided the audio card has decent dac circuitry, you can't really get much cleaner audio out. Peter Peter -- meep meep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12744 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!
I'm a regular vistor to this forum and I seem to have lost my way with all of the recent developments. Can someone lay out where we are now compared to, say, 6 months ago? What I mean is I'm trying to understand how the new developments relate to each other. I followed the Jive developements - then Duet was announced, which I thought was a new name for Jive - but maybe it isn't? I also see terms like SC, slimsqueezer, slim center, etc. and I'm confused. I'm guessing others might be, too. Thanks. -- Rick B. Rick B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter - Album artist index for non-english text
Sorry,forgot to mention my environment : SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 15738 - Linux - EN - utf8 Server IP address: 192.168.1.5 Perl Version: 5.8.8 armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 4.1.15 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Hostname: DS-207 Running on Synology DS-207+, I use the default skin -- TheTurtle TheTurtle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
dean blackketter wrote: Some news from CES: Squeezebox Duet won a CES Innovations 2008 award. Details here: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/172/4177cl=us,en Congratulations! Also, according to this (http://ces.cnet.com/best-of-ces/? tag=ces2008_rnav) in the Home Audio category we're up against Neosonik's no-speaker wires technology (which required powered speakers) and Polk Audio single speaker surround sound. Please feel free to vote for your favorite product here: http://ces.cnet.com/ces/peoples-voice/?tag=ces2008_rnav So the awards are about whoever has the biggest mailing list? Then you'll surely win! Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
From the pictures of the controller it doesn't look like it has an accessory connector at the bottom between the charging pins In another post, it was said the photos were taken months ago using mockups and LCD displayed was simulated so don't make assumptions based on the press photos. Look at the live ones from CES. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Expansion port of the beta controller has an audio in ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to order accessories?
Oh, that sucks, they moved EU ordering to logitech. I'm from California, visiting Dublin right now. It doesn't look like there is a way. I would email [EMAIL PROTECTED], or call their US number. +1 650-210-9400 -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
if the internet radio can deliver native formats such as WMA and MP3 then the SB communicates directly with the source and Slimserver is not used except for screen text. Similarly for podcasts. This is the basis for Squeezenetwork (which is essentially a set of public slimservers with no local files) which can handle many SB users. Logitech may be able to say current peak usage of Squeezenetwork. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
tamanaco;256374 Wrote: The only reason I might want a working speaker/speaker plug and support for streamed music in the Controller is to sample tracks from my library as build Dynamic Playlists. Shame it hasn't got a microphone for voice control, VoIP calling and so on. I was always very skeptical of voice commands untl I got a BlackBerry and found it was very effective when driving hands free. Given the input method for typing names, it would be especially useful for me to get to artists or albums quickly. And of course if decent enough, or if it had a jack for a better mic, you could do some simple room correction. For me, playing a sample is useful now and then, but I usually remember songs. However, a voice to echo commands and band names for people with restricted vision could be a good selling point. I wonder if there's space on the handset to store the samples to do text to voice? I still struggle to see it's value as a player though, iPods do it so much better - and cheaper. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
The port on the bottom is there but it's covered by a rubber plug. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!
SqueezeCenter (SC) is the new name for SlimServer (SS) from version 7.0 onwards. Sqeezebox Controller is the new remote control based on the Jive software platform which has been in discussion for some time. Squeezebox Receiver is the new screen-less Squeezebox. Duet is a bundle package including one Controller and one Receiver. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
mortslim wrote: It is my understanding that the squeezenetwork interface and the slimserver interface will shortly both be retired and be updated to the new squeezecenter interface which is supposed to be a unified interface to control your squeezebox. It is also my understanding that the new controller will also be using the squeezecenter interface. Yes, but the squeezecenter is not so spectacularly different from slimserver. That being said, can someone explain if the new controller will be better at controlling the squeezebox compared to using squeezecenter on a laptop? Better in some ways and worse in others. And isn't a laptop just as portable as the new controller? Of course not! Where do you get all these 'insights'? Can you lay in bed and hold a laptop in one hand to control your playlists? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
autopilot wrote: Also regarding the lack of working headphone on release - could it not be that this is partly because logitech dont actually want the controller to be perceived as a portable squeezebox that can control other SB's, rather than a brilliant controller that can also play music? The latter is better IMO - if people wanted a portable SB they would be a little disappointed, if they wanted a controller that does other stuff they would be amazed by it :) My take is that they have a hard time completing the SBC on time as it is. The local player functionality just didn't make it. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!
You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox Receiver) used here and there. Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet forum to avoid some confusion. -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
dean blackketter wrote: On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Mark Lanctot wrote: konut;255304 Wrote: Am I corect in assuming that a router isn't needed? That the controller can connect directly to my laptops WiFi? I believe that a router isn't needed in that the controller can connect directly to the -Squeezebox Receiver-, not a laptop, i.e. the SBR functions as an ad-hoc AP. That's right. dem;255309 Wrote: When it's in standby, is the LED off? I'm thinking of putting one in a bedroom. It sounds like it would be handy to use the controller while lying in bed. It sounds like you're asking about the controller, which ModelCitizen answered, but Mike Valera was talking about the SBR. Not sure about that one as I haven't seen an SBR, he'd have to answer. Obviously one of those super-bright blue LEDs would be undesirable for use in a bedroom! The LED goes to a dim white when powered on and connected but not playing. An almost fully dimmed SB3 is still too bright when it's beside my pillow... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
Siduhe, Thanks for that detailed response. At 8.5p per song, per stream, per user, I can see why Pandora had issue. Imagine if a regular FM Radio station had to pay per listener, per song, per play ! We'd never hear a single song played. -- yockers yockers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5075 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
It's 0.085 pence (about a twelfth of a pence), not 8.5p. But it still adds up...as in the example below: 6 million songs (200,000 users x 30 songs) per month is £510,000 -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver roadmap.
Hi Does anyone happen to know the release schedule for SlimServer 6.5.5, and SqueezeCenter 7.0? Even if there are no specific dates, a rough idea would be useful (i.e. are these releases days, weeks, or months away). Thanks Nick. -- slimnick slimnick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41981 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
NFLnut wrote: mvalera;254763 Wrote: Enoch the price is the price. If you don't feel it's worth the money we're asking, then you can feel free to vote with your wallet. It's smaller, faster, cheaper and has more functionality than our competitor's controller. We feel that we have priced it aggressively. I'm sorry you don't agree. Mike I think you guys have seriously missed the boat here. Your competition is not really your direct competition! Sonos' customers are looking for one thing. An all-inclusive, simple to use product that streams audio in a neat little package that puts speakers and amp in one box. This long time SliMP3/SB user has definitely been jealous of the Sonos. Not because of the built-in amps or the architecture but because of the slick smart remote with local display. I could have - and actually *have* - predicted that SD would bring out a similar controller, because it was the one thing that there main competitor did better. The addition of the SBR is interesting but not that spectacular. I already have a 4xSB3 network and I don't need extra units. I can use two SBC's even if they are much more expensive than I hoped. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter - Album artist index for non-english text
SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 15738 - Linux - EN - utf8 Please try the very latest nightly. We're in the 16000 now. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!
Thanks for the replies - very helpful. One question - Is there a separate Jive Remote under development that is still forthcoming or is it in fact already here as the Squeezebox Controller? -- Rick B. Rick B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Duet pricing
If you think that $399 is a good price for an amazing digital music source with software that just works on all platforms, you've likely already bought at least one SB 3 and are trying to justify buying another, or a Transporter. If you've held off buying your first (or second) SB 3, the ultimate in performance to price ratio, the Duet may not be that attractive. For cheap people like myself, the SB Receiver is very attractive. I hope that it can eventually be configured without the Controller. Do you need the Controller to use the Receiver in wired mode? Receiver plus wireless bridge would be less than a SB 3. I think that a usable (PC-controlled) standalone Receiver would sell like crazy. It would be like an Airport Express that can sync with other SB's. And, again for cheap people like me, I could justify an iTouch more easily than the SB Controller. I'm a happy SB 3 owner looking for a cheap, wireless, multi-room solution. -- mkt mkt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Nostromo wrote: NFLnut;256222 Wrote: I thought it DIDN'T have a headphone jack! Now I'm confused. What would be the point of the Controller having a DAC otherwise? For playing sound effects? I think even my microwave has a DAC... ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver roadmap.
Someone from SD/Logitech posted a few weeks back giving early January (I think it might have been Jan 7) as a target date for SC7. I have no inside info, but I'd expect to see it before the end of January. I have no idea on 6.5.5. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41981 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?
Michael Herger;256312 Wrote: I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the new receiver. Because users have been asking for this kind of device. Michael They've either been asking directly, or indirectly, as in Why can't you make an SB that is much less expensive, say, around the $150 price point? Taking away the VFD makes that possible. A lot of users still prefer controlling their SB2/SB3 via computer, pda, Nokia770, etc, so this works for them without the SBC. And with the SBC, you don't need the VFD. I guess the other indirect way of asking for it that is often heard in these forums is Why can't it be more like Sonos? ;o) -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41966 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!
On 9-Jan-08, at 7:01 AM, Rick B. wrote: Thanks for the replies - very helpful. One question - Is there a separate Jive Remote under development that is still forthcoming or is it in fact already here as the Squeezebox Controller? The jive remote is the controller. It's the same one that's been talked about in the forum for some time, but it is likely not the only controller in the roadmap. Those of us on the outside can only guess on hardware. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
bpa;256385 Wrote: Expansion port of the beta controller has an audio in but maybe not enough CPU to do recognition and control. Call phones do it with much slower CPUs... -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Power Switch II plugin seems to have smoked two of my headphone/ir outs
Hello, With a solid state relay MP120D4, theorical maximum power is 250 VA or 250W (see page 13 of the datasheet) You need 4x150W = 600W, MP120D4 is not powerful enough With Z120D10, 500 VA/W ($13.00) With 120D10, 500 VA/W ($22.00) (better cooling) With 120D25, 1000 VA/W ($23.00) (better cooling) Concerning the leakage current in the off state, I will measure my circuit and tell you. Charlie -- Charlie Mac Prabs Charlie Mac Prabs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12317 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41180 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!
Skunk;256403 Wrote: You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox Receiver) used here and there. Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet forum to avoid some confusion. I wouldn't rename the forum, as it is a development forum for the Jive software. I'd like to keep it free of the random support requests. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller and SB3
On Jan 9, 2008, at 4:47 AM, Gibbo wrote: Maybe this has been covered elsewhere but is there any plan to release a box set duet type discounted thingy, with a controller and a SB3 rather than a receiver? That's something that's been considered along with a Transporter/ Controller bundle. If that's done, it'll probably be for specific retailers, but nothing's really been finalized yet. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver roadmap.
On 9-Jan-08, at 6:41 AM, aubuti wrote: Someone from SD/Logitech posted a few weeks back giving early January (I think it might have been Jan 7) as a target date for SC7. The latest that I've heard mentioned is around end of Jan, but as always, this is flexible based on what needs to get done. I have no inside info, but I'd expect to see it before the end of January. I have no idea on 6.5.5. There will be no 6.5.5 other than the current nightly builds. No development work in going on in 6.5.x so the nightly has remained the same for some time now. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
On 9-Jan-08, at 4:37 AM, ezkcdude wrote: Will the controller be able to turn the receiver on/off? I have a jive remote now, and one of the things that bothers me is that it can't turn the SB3 on (or off). I have to use the IR remote or SlimServer. You should have an option to turn the player off in the main menu of the Controller once you choose a player. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?
Michael Herger;256312 Wrote: I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the new receiver. Because users have been asking for this kind of device. Michael Michael, I am interested in the new Duet and especially the Jive as I already have a Transporter and would like the new remote. I use Media Monkey to manage my files. I would like the album artwork to show on the Jive when I buy one. I am filling in the album artwork now in Media Monkey for the files. Will this album artwork show up in the Jive remote when I'm selecting - is that how that works? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41966 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!
On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:57 AM, SuperQ wrote: Skunk;256403 Wrote: You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox Receiver) used here and there. Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet forum to avoid some confusion. I wouldn't rename the forum, as it is a development forum for the Jive software. I'd like to keep it free of the random support requests. To further confuse things, we'll be renaming the Jive software to SqueezeOS soon (I mentioned this in another post...) So the new product names are: SqueezeCenter 7 (aka SC7, formerly SlimServer) SqueezeNetwork (aka SN) Squeezebox Controller (aka SBC, formerly Jive Remote) Squeezebox Receiver (aka SBR, formerly Ray) SqueezeNetwork (aka SN) SqueezeOS (formerly Jive software) Squeezebox (aka SB3 aka Squeezebox Classic aka Squeezebox v3 ) Transporter (aka TR) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?
I use Media Monkey to manage my files. I would like the album artwork to show on the Jive when I buy one. I am filling in the album artwork now in Media Monkey for the files. Will this album artwork show up in the Jive remote when I'm selecting - is that how that works? If the artwork shows up in SqueezeCenter/SlimServer then it will also be displayed on the Controller. It's displayed while browsing albums, or during playback. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FF REW improvements w/ Duet and SC7
Phil Meyer;256279 Wrote: Is this the improvements that were suggested in the beta forum, whereby it was suggested to remove audio feedback and manual acceleration? There hasn't been any additional feedback in that thread for a while. Phil Yes, those improvements. The talk eventually ends, and coding begins. I'd expect that when awy has something to show, the feedback will build up again. I believe these changes are not considered required for 7.0 so it may be quiet on this issue for a while. -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41956 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to order accessories?
bernt;256331 Wrote: Hi! I'm in Sweden. How do I order a Backlit Infrared Remote for Squeezebox? Cant't do it from Slimdevices and it's not listed on Logitech. Kind Regards /Bernt Try 'this place' (http://abtech.se/ItemInfo?itemId=34045998itemName=Slim+Devices+Logitech+Remote+Backlit+BLACK) Lycka till! -- TCM 'Squeezebox 3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) - 'Trends Audio TA-10.1' (http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/trends/ta10.html) - 'QLN QuBiC 121' (http://www.minhembio.com/produkt/163409) 'WhatTheFuckHiFi.com' (http://whatthefuckhifi.com/) 'Last.fm: ThisCharmingMan' (http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan) 'Save Internet Radio' (http://www.savenetradio.org) TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver roadmap.
Since the Duet combo is due out in January (according to logitech press release, and statements in the other forum posts), and the requirement for SqueezeCenter 7.0 for the Duet to work, I would expect an official release of 7.0 within the month. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41981 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
On 9-Jan-08, at 7:15 AM, CardinalFang wrote: bpa;256385 Wrote: Expansion port of the beta controller has an audio in but maybe not enough CPU to do recognition and control. Call phones do it with much slower CPUs... so you keep saying. and saying. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet pricing
People are asking for it, the engineers say it's possible. Hey, Why not just run the Controller's Jive software in an emulator, kinda like running softsqueeze. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
bpa;256380 Wrote: if the internet radio can deliver native formats such as WMA and MP3 then the SB communicates directly with the source and Slimserver is not used except for screen text. Similarly for podcasts. This is the basis for Squeezenetwork (which is essentially a set of public slimservers with no local files) which can handle many SB users. Logitech may be able to say current peak usage of Squeezenetwork. I guess that this is also applies for a plyalist where the files (inside the list) are hosted on a remote web server, right? BTW, has anybody was ever able to connect SB to any other streaming platform ? -- moschous moschous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter vs. SB3 - my experience
Have you tried contacting SD support? If you do have a bad unit, they may swap it out for you. On Jan 9, 2008 4:28 AM, NewBuyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish my Transporter was working flawlessly. :( ... I wonder what others can please advise here. What would you do? ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
dean blackketter;256445 Wrote: But it does have such a connector, but it's hidden under a rubber plug, which provides pinouts for audio in, audio out, serial, USB host or device, and power (both to charge the battery and run peripherals from the battery). Those pins haven't been fully enabled in software, we're looking to the community to help drive development of accessories. The product photo shots were supposed to leave the plug in, but: http://www.logitech.com/repository/619/jpg/5794.1.0.jpg -dean Does/will the Controller support SHDC cards? With 32GB nearly here that will easily hold my library if transcoded into mp3. That would make my entire library ready to travel. Now I'm interested in buying one. -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.4 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux would've been too easy! 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
The SC code is very scalable, SqueezeNetwork serves many thousands of concurrent players. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet pricing
SuperQ;256443 Wrote: ... Hey, Why not just run the Controller's Jive software in an emulator, kinda like running softsqueeze. I am sure that is just a matter of time. Of course that would mean running to the computer to control the display-less SB4 base. I kind of like a mix of a base with a better display, and a controller with a more graphic user interface. I think both concepts serve different environments in the home environment. I knid of hope next on the roadmap is a more compact, less boxy and less costly version of the TP, meaning something with a design emphasis on sound quality with far more compact packaging a la SB3. I'd have a mix of that and duets arround the house. I think $399 is what I'd expect to pay for a SB3 with the duets remote, but it's possible that experiencing the duets capabilities changes my perspective. I just like some degree of display information on the base. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet pricing
mkt;256420 Wrote: Do you need the Controller to use the Receiver in wired mode? Yes you do. out of the box, the Reciever and Controller create a little ad-hoc network, the Controller then lets you set up the Reciever to use whatever other network in present (wired or wireless) and the SqueezeCenter to connect to along with any other network settings. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
Siduhe;256411 Wrote: It's 0.085 pence (about a twelfth of a pence), not 8.5p. But it still adds up...as in the example below: 6 million songs (200,000 users x 30 songs) per month is £510,000 Actually if we're going to nit-pick, it's 510,000 pence (ie. £5,100). But that doesn't alter the fact that the powers that be have definitely shot themselves in the foot. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
cliveb;256441 Wrote: Actually if we're going to nit-pick, it's 510,000 pence (ie. £5,100). But that doesn't alter the fact that the powers that be have definitely shot themselves in the foot. Put another way if each listener gets 80 songs per day (4hrs @ 3mins per song) = 2400 a month then 2400 x 0.085p = £2.04 per month. Seems very reasonable or is my calculation flawed? -- Ramage T5500 1.6GHz, SC 7.0 - 15945 Windows Vista, Alien 2.0b3 P4 2.6GHz, SC 7.0 - 15631 - Windows XP, Alien 2.0b3 P2 266MHz, ClarkConnect 4.1, SC 7.0 - 15966, Alien 2.0b3, perl 5.8.8 i686-linux-thread-multi VMware (XPhost), ClarkConnect 4.2, SC7 - 15945, Alien 2.0b3, perl 5.8.8 i686-linux-thread-multi VMware (XPhost), InstantSC, SC7 - 15998, Alien 2.0b Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
BTW, has anybody was ever able to connect SB to any other streaming platform ? The SB is a thin client - which in this case it has a basic functionality to fetch audio but all the display control has to come from a server. SB has a proprietary control protocol - called slimproto. The main server is Slimserver/SqueezeCenter. Servers such as Itunes or WMP use different protocol standard (e.g. DAAP and uPNP) and so to use these you would have to write an interface applications. Over the years a few users felt that Slimserver/SqueezeCenter has got too big and have implemented lightweight less functional alternative servers which implement slimproto. Search the firum and you will find them. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
