You could always pick up a tiny monitor if all you wanted was audio and
it would have the advantage of a big interrface.
The movie rental deal with all the studios and for many countries not
just the USA is of course amazing and really shows Apple's power.
Clearly they can and will put together
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Or maybe sooner...
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I think after the apple tv presentation last night (discussed here
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42292 ) we can say
Microsoft is going to have to lot better than logitech and slimdevices.
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With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install because
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JJZolx;259096 Wrote:
He doesn't want a controller. Many existing users prefer to control
their Squeezeboxes with laptops, PCs, PDAs, Nokia Nseries, iPhones,
iPod Touches, etc. If you're going to place the SB in a closet, the
$150 SBR makes more sense than a $300 SB3. The current setup
snarlydwarf wrote:
With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install because
the package name changed.
Thanks for this. Of course, on Debian 'uninstall' is not so simple.
Just doing aptitude remove slimserver will leave the configuration
files; is this OK?
Or do you need to
(first post in this forum, hope this is the right sub forum).
I have always named my ripped albums to folders named like artist -
year - album title to allow a proper chronology when listing
folders (alfabetically) in a filesystem.
Is it possible to do the same in a Squeezebox? I would like to
Honva,
Thanks for your further input. But I've already tried setting the
volumes to 100%, with no success.
What I'd really like to know is how PowerDVD manages to bypass
whatever's altering the bit-stream, and produce perfect DTS surround,
when none of my audio players can do this!
Thanks also
Nokia N800. All works well EXCEPT the Album artwork is not showing up
in the Album Gallery view. The artwork for each track is working as
expected. I have rescanned several times but to no avail. I am assuming
What version are you using? Make sure you're using the lates available (6.5.5
or
Will it be possible to run the Squeezebox Duet only with MP3Tunes ? And
will the remote be quick enough and display cower art.
All my music is stored on my NAS today but the NAS isn't powerfull
enough to run SqueezeCenter 7.0 (Synology DS-101j) and I don't wan't to
have a PC running.
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It happened to me twice now and i am getting a very irritated now.
I have a modem, connected to a Linksys WRT54G router. From that point
it goes wireless to a laptop. Router is with cable connected to a
Ds107+ NAS. Than i have a Squeezebox 3 wirelles connected to the NAS to
listen to music on
You can add a tag to your mediafiles called ALBUMSORT. I've done that on
all mp3s and flac files, and filled them with 'artist-year-album
title' for non-compilation albums. The albums are then sorted by this
new tag, while the display still shows the contents of the albumtitle
tag. I don't know
Not sure you get cover-art when playing from mp3tunes via SB/Duet
(although you do with other Music Services like Pandora, Rhapsody,
Slacker).
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Robin Bowes;259137 Wrote:
Or maybe sooner...
Yeah, haven't you finished reading that Perl for Beginners book yet?
Ha! I'm on page 5... ;)
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Running the Duet with SqueezeNetwork and MP3Tunes will work just fine.
No idea bout cover art and MP3Tunes though, I've not used it.
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Espen wrote:
(first post in this forum, hope this is the right sub forum).
I have always named my ripped albums to folders named like artist -
year - album title to allow a proper chronology when listing
folders (alfabetically) in a filesystem.
Is it possible to do the same in a
tamanaco,
You should find the configuration file in the acc-v1-RC2 folder that is
crated on unzipping the downloaded file.
If you are not seeing it is may be hidden by windows.
1. open the folder with ACC in it.
2. click on tools (in the tool bar at the top)
3. click on folder options
4. click
Thanks. I just noticed the custom browse plug-in myself as well. I use
UNIX for the servers, but windows is available aswell so I am sure I
will find an efficient tool.
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Secret Squirrel,
quoteAlso, I wonder why ACC accesses the internet./quote
IE will always try to access the internet every time it is opened,
whether you want it to or not. That is just the way the browser works
normally.
You could manually set it to not access the internet but then when you
Secret Squirrel;259099 Wrote:
Also, I wonder why ACC accesses the internet.
Overall, I happy with what I have.
Thanks again,
SS
Secret Squirrel
IE is normal set to try and connect to the internet normally. This can
be changed (work off line mode)but then every time you go to use it
SilverRS8;259165 Wrote:
Hi all,
Sorry for the problems caused. Frank
Frank, everyone using beta software should be aware that issues like
this will occur from time to time. No need to apologize. I'm amazed
at how quickly you fix and add functionality to this thing. I
appreciated all the
schatzy;259274 Wrote:
Did you get it to work?
Schazy
I removed it. I'm waiting for Frank to upload the next release.
Thanks...
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I have decided that my current QNAP TS101 is nowhere near powerful
enough for SC7 (I reckon it needs at least 256MB RAM).
I looked at upgrading it but I can't find anything that ticks all the
boxes. Most cheap NAS boxes are too limited in CPU and RAM. Mini-ITX
based systems are too big and power
Are you running SlimServer as a Windows service or as a user program?
As a user program, set to be accessible by all users...
Do you know if SlimServer can see the external drive?
Well, I can browse to all the music via File Folder or Genre, or
Artist, etc. All the music will play, but the
tamanaco;259267 Wrote:
Thanks Schatzy... I run my systems so that I can see all the hidden
files as an administrator. Frank said that the file is created when
the script is executed. It is not in the zip file. I usually remove
every trace of the previous version of any beta software from my
schatzy;259254 Wrote:
tamanaco,
You should find the configuration file in the acc-v1-RC2 folder that is
crated on unzipping the downloaded file.
If you are not seeing it is may be hidden by windows.
1. open the folder with ACC in it.
2. click on tools (in the tool bar at the top)
3.
Secret Squirrel;258993 Wrote:
Frank,
You're amazing! I don't know how you're getting all of these things
straightened out and added so quickly and maintain a normal life. I
don't have any software consultants that work that fast (okay, one).
I can't wait to get home tonight and try the
Diana Artemis wrote:
snarlydwarf wrote:
With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install because
the package name changed.
Thanks for this. Of course, on Debian 'uninstall' is not so simple.
Just doing aptitude remove slimserver will leave the configuration
files; is
If you haven't already heard, Sun Microsystems is plunking down about 1
billion USD for MySQL.
Not that it should have much effect on us in the short term, but you
never know about the future.
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Anyone else that is looking for a universal remote that can control SB?
I had my eyes for Harmony 1000 for a long time, and if a version came
out that supported SB and had the same features as the new controller
(browsing, album art etc) it would be a direct buy for me.
The only other one that
willyhoops;259181 Wrote:
Remember the HDMI output means sound quality is unlimited.
Only if you have an HDMI capable DAC. Outside of home theater I'm not
aware of too many of those.
Then you could play any CD in the world and move anything you fancy onto
your ipod all for a flat monthy
Just about any Harmony remote will work with an SB3.
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Dear All
This is the first public release of Spicefly Syncer written to deal
with the time consuming issue of synchronising MusicIP and Slimserver
libraries when adding new music.
Just put your new music files into your file store and let SpiceFly
Syncer do all the hardwork!
Spicefly Syncer
Rick B.;259302 Wrote:
Just about any Harmony remote will work with an SB3.
Yes of coarse, Im just looking for something with a display like the
Harmony 1000 where you can easier browse your files, see the album art
etc.
If that could be done in a Universal Remote Ill be very happy.
Im
shawkie;259280 Wrote:
I have decided that my current QNAP TS101 is nowhere near powerful
enough for SC7 (I reckon it needs at least 256MB RAM).
I looked at upgrading it but I can't find anything that ticks all the
boxes. Most cheap NAS boxes are too limited in CPU and RAM. Mini-ITX
based
Not wanting to sound like an I'm a Mac/I'm a PC advert, but if you are
using a PC I think you can use the iTunes Update
plugin(http://www.jamescraig.co.uk/SlimServer/index.html). This makes
slimserver use the iTunes artwork without having to embed it in the
files. (You have to set the appropriate
How do you force a SqueezeBox 3 to use a different firmware version on a
Debian system? I've installed the SqueezeServer v7.0 software from the
slimdevices unstable repository but the box reboots itself constantly,
always within a couple of seconds of playing any file or internet
radio, and there
willyhoops;259181 Wrote:
Remember the HDMI output means sound quality is unlimited.
From what I understand it's not much better than S/PDIF. Higher
bandwidth but no bi-directional mechanism for clock synch for jitter
reduction. HDMI is primarily for video, audio is an afterthought, a
matter
Diana Artemis;259199 Wrote:
snarlydwarf wrote:
With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install
because
the package name changed.
Thanks for this. Of course, on Debian 'uninstall' is not so simple.
Just doing aptitude remove slimserver will leave the configuration
I personally think it will go two ways. My belief (and it's only that!)
is that we'll get basic IR functionality from the controller pretty
quickly, probably an offshoot from the exisiting IR Blaster SC plugin.
I also believe that at some point (could be quite a while) Logitech
will produce
Just posted (http://www.vanholt.nl/acc/acc.htm) the RC2a version with
the following changes:
FIXEDProblem with script running slow message of RC2 and screen
updates
FIXEDWhen selected startingfolder or compilation folder
containing a ' character the script stopped
ADDED
Frank,
This is an excellent program however I can't get it working...
The new RC2a version starts ok but the script running slow message
comes up after a few minutes.
Looking at the log file, which is about 4M has hundreds (possibly
thousands) of entries like
STATUS : 15:23:34 ;Various
Many thanks for this, Frank. I love it!
I'm not happy, however, with the quality of my album covers. Most of
them are thumbnails that I copied from Amazon.com. They are generally
115 x 115 pixels. They look quite fuzzy on screen and in print.
Would I get better quality covers if I went with
radish wrote:
I personally think it will go two ways. My belief (and it's only that!)
is that we'll get basic IR functionality from the controller pretty
quickly, probably an offshoot from the exisiting IR Blaster SC plugin.
I also believe that at some point (could be quite a while) Logitech
According to Slimdevices some of those bugs have been fixed in the
latest firmware which is available installing Slimserver 7 (see here:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5116)
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MuckleEck;259327 Wrote:
Frank,
This is an excellent program however I can't get it working...
The new RC2a version starts ok but the script running slow message
comes up after a few minutes.
Looking at the log file, which is about 4M has hundreds (possibly
thousands) of entries like
Rick,
try album art downloader
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=51896
Which trys various sites to get the images, I find that images between
300 and 500 pixels square look best.
For covers that are impossible to find I resorted to scanning them in
myself!
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Ed C;257417 Wrote:
Thanks. A Shields-Up probe tells me that 3483 is open. I only have it
set-up as a TCP port; perhaps I need to open it for UDP also?
Yes, you'll need that.
Also you need to port-forward both 9000 and 3483 to your SlimServer PC.
Finally, check Server Settings - Security -
MuckleEck;259333 Wrote:
Frank,
Config file is
SF|
G2E|
CF|Y:\Music\V\Various Artists
DT|True
DG|False
ACS|True
APPS|True
SB|1
Last message before all teh various artists messages were:-
STATUS :WHERE INSTR(UCASE(tracks.url),
'FILE:///Y:/Music/V/Various%20Artists')
structure is as follows:-
y:\music\v\various artists\album\track# artist - track
name.xxx
xxx is either FLAC or mp3
There are 120 albums in varius artists some with upto 200 tracks total
of 3500 tracks
Alasdair
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MuckleEck
MuckleEck;259343 Wrote:
structure is as follows:-
y:\music\v\various artists\album\track# artist - track name.xxx
xxx is either FLAC or mp3
There are 120 albums in varius artists some with upto 200 tracks total
of 3500 tracks
Alasdair
MuckleEck,
Please try and select just one of
SilverRS8;259321 Wrote:
Just posted (http://www.vanholt.nl/acc/acc.htm) the RC2a version with
the following changes:
FIXEDProblem with script running slow message of RC2 and screen
updates
FIXEDWhen selected startingfolder or compilation folder
containing a ' character the
Secret Squirrel;259348 Wrote:
Frank,
I'll be happy to do that this evening, but won't get to it until about
8 EST. Sorry!
Thanks, as always, for all of your work on this!
SS
Secret Squirrel
I found i had to change the file association for .htm and .html to
force it to use FireFox.
crooner;259176 Wrote:
Exactly
Microsoft killed HDCD. And what a shame since its a terrific format.
I think the market was more responsible for killing HDCD along with
'mostly dead' SACD and DVD-Audio. People want their compressed audio
online from iTunes, Amazon, wherever. They don't
I'm sure it'll get addressed in an AppleTV firmware update, but for now
searching and browsing for songs on a SB3 is a lot more fun than on an
AppleTV.
My friend's got an AppleTV with a VAST music collection attached, and
it makes my eyeballs go disco-crazy scrolling through it all. Plus, as
Yes, but the potential is there with buffering. Apple TV is the be all
and end all of video on demand, but a few more things are needed before
they take audio. Still I think the future is clear and if they play
thier cards right they can take it. Quite an amazing thing and with the
shares at $162
Oh for sure. It's a great piece of kit notwithstanding my comments; and
I have to say when I move house it's going to replace the SB3 in our
living room; that way I just have my DVB-T PVR (and let's face it,
they're already an 'old-fashioned' way of watching TV!!) and an
AppleTV.
And I guess
amcluesent;257515 Wrote:
through squeezenetwork it has never stopped working
At least part of the SB3 connection to Pandora makes calls to a API
services on the Squeezenetwork. Maybe this is sufficient 'proxy' for
Pandora to be happy the user is in the USA?I suggest this kind of discussion
bobharp wrote:
My upgrade was relatively smooth. I renamed the old directory
(/usr/share/slimserver/) after the update to squeezecenter.
I updated the wiki.
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DebianPackage
Presumably you added the bits at the end about having to do more than
just the
I seem to have a problem or rather a lack of some basic comprehension as
to how my Squeezebox et.al. should be configured/set up. I have muddled
through and figured out how to get everything to work (Squeezebox plays
my music library on my stereo and I can switch it to Squeeze Network
and listen
Perhaps it has been covered already and I missed it, but has it been
confirmed that the new remote will work through an ad-hoc connection
with an SB3 connected via wired ethernet to the server? I know there
was a question as to whether or not this is possible.
Here's my system:
2 wired-only SB3
I have 2 servers running in my house that run 6.5.4 Slimserver (SuSe
Linux). I've been using softsqueeze to stream music at work from one
of the servers. I'd like to be able to stream from either. To do
this, I need to change the ports that are used for each server. This
way I can set up my
Diana Artemis;259374 Wrote:
bobharp wrote:
My upgrade was relatively smooth. I renamed the old directory
(/usr/share/slimserver/) after the update to squeezecenter.
I updated the wiki.
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DebianPackage
Presumably you added the bits at the end about
Thanks Mark!
Both port 9000 and 3483 are forwarded. I learned some more last night.
This may have something to do with my work PC which is on a really
large company's network behind their firewall. I had an old Win95
notebook at home that I connected by dial-up to the internet. I
confirmed that
krikor;259377 Wrote:
Perhaps it has been covered already and I missed it, but has it been
confirmed that the new remote will work through an ad-hoc connection
with an SB3 connected via wired ethernet to the server? I know there
was a question as to whether or not this is possible.
Here's
When you turn on the squeezebox, press and hold the left arrow
(navigation) button. This will bring up a menu where you can go into
the network settings. Actually, you probably don't have to turn the
squeezebox on to do this.
Scroll through and you will see an option to connect to
krikor wrote:
Perhaps it has been covered already and I missed it, but has it been
confirmed that the new remote will work through an ad-hoc connection
with an SB3 connected via wired ethernet to the server? I know there
was a question as to whether or not this is possible.
Yes, this will
Robin Bowes;259257 Wrote:
Look for the Albumview options button just above (?) Help in the
bottom left of the page.
(I assume you're using the default skin)
R.
I use the standard skin (Logitech green so to say).
I see no such button on the general front page. I am using
I appreciate the reply but I don't have any problems connecting to
Squeeze Network, that is as long as it was connected the last time I
turned Squeezebox off. The problem (if it is one?) arises when I am
listening to my music library via SlimServer and I turn off the
Squeezebox and also shut
Espen wrote:
Robin Bowes;259257 Wrote:
Look for the Albumview options button just above (?) Help in the
bottom left of the page.
(I assume you're using the default skin)
R.
I use the standard skin (Logitech green so to say).
I see no such button on the general front page. I am using
HeavyB;259375 Wrote:
Later in the day, I turn Squeezebox on to listen to the radio via
Squeeze Network without turning on my PC. Squeezebox attempts to
connect but in that the last thing I had been using was the
aforementioned SlimServer, Squeezebox attempts to connect to it but
Robin Bowes;259408 Wrote:
You need to first browse to a list of albums, e.g. Albums, or
Artists-Albums.
R.
Ok, thanks. That helps in the web interface, but what I really look for
is the same behavior when navigating on the SB itself. Seems that the
dropdown menu only controls the
mkozlows;259127 Wrote:
Ah! That's the thing I was missing. So can you put a playlist with a
mix of your Rhapsody music and your local-stored music?
We had never tried that, but I just did. It worked!
Good job Andy! :)
Mike
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It's working again.
It turned out that I by mistake had enabled Virtual Interfaces which
messed things up badly.
I posted my problem on arstechnica.com and got some very skilled help
from OS X expects. So big thanks to a guy who goes by the handle
costique.
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Espen;259221 Wrote:
(first post in this forum, hope this is the right sub forum).
I have always named my ripped albums to folders named like artist -
year - album title to allow a proper chronology when listing
folders (alfabetically) in a filesystem.
Is it possible to do the same in a
ToddSTS;259352 Wrote:
I think the market was more responsible for killing HDCD along with
'mostly dead' SACD and DVD-Audio. People want their compressed audio
online from iTunes, Amazon, wherever. They don't know/care about the
sound quality difference. Online music will kill off the CD
Hello
Just got my SqueezeBox today together with a D-link DWA-140 wireless
USB adapter.
I got no other wireless devices connected to my computer besides that.
Im trying to set up my wireless connection due to the guide: 5996
Configuring a SqeezeBox or Transporter to connect without a router or
mflint wrote:
I happily use a Kurobox HG/WR for SqueezeCenter 7 with a Squeezebox
Controller. It has just 128Mb, but seems to perform well with my
collection of approximately 4000 tracks.
It also has gigabit ethernet (but probably not enough processor grunt
to make use of it!)
Matthew,
maggior schatzy,
Thanks much for the replys,
I feel much better now! I love the Squeezbox . . .
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bobharp wrote:
I just added:
-or for the development release (currently SlimServer 7.0a1)-
apt-get remove --purge slimserver
apt-get update
apt-get install squeezecenter
I doubt that a purge is necessary. I did not have to configure perl or
install libexpat1-dev.
That's good! And
Espen;259221 Wrote:
(first post in this forum, hope this is the right sub forum).
I have always named my ripped albums to folders named like artist -
year - album title to allow a proper chronology when listing
folders (alfabetically) in a filesystem.
Is it possible to do the same in a
No one can assist with this? I find that odd.
mapatton;258973 Wrote:
Bump
Any assistance?
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How much work is the CPU doing (on the server) to transcode 2 streams at
once? Perhaps your running out of oomph there, rather than bandwidth?
If this is the case, you might try changing the lame encoding quality
to a lower level, which has less cpu cost.
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Greg, I am a pro audio installer based on Vancouver island and I have a
few suggestions, but first a basic question: Are you planning to hire a
pro for the wiring job? If so, they should be able to provide you sound
advice. Your best bet is someone who deals in both the installation and
the
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No one can assist with this? I find that odd.
Sometimes it takes a little while (sometimes as much as a day or more)
to get someone on the forum that knows the answer to your question.
I would presume it is a bandwidth issue (using a 5Mbps cable connection)
on the
Great thanks. Sorry - i do run on a PC so will try the iTunes updater.
Is there though any PC version software that embeds the album art into
the files like the apple software to avoid the plugin?
thanks
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I am interested in the new Squeezebox Duet with the new remote but am
undecided due to the high cost and not having seen the remote in
action. If anyone who has used the new remote could help me it would be
greatly appreciated. Apologies for the long post but I will try and
explain my setup and
One thing with the SB3 and SS combo is that things will work great for
months, and then one does something harmless like...
Change the fade-in-fade-out option for both players.
Then all things go to hell. None of the players would play music.
They'd have access to SS and would see the playlists
Diana Artemis;259451 Wrote:
That's good! And really simple. Thanks for the confirmation.
[If the process is now that simple, I do hope there's some way of
tidying up the wiki so that it's less confusing. I guess many of us
have had the experience of being led astray by HowTos and
Brian: thanks for the reply.
Hiring a pro.
I will check into this. The house is currently gutted right down to
the studs. We are currently framing the walls and we (i.e. our
contractor) will be adding plumbing, electrical and structured wiring
before any drywall goes up. I was thinking we
If I have one album, but the songs are tagged with different genres,
slimserver seems to create two or more different albums, one per genre.
Is there any way I can have it ignore genre in album accumulation ?
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Hi,
I am experiencing performance issues with my Squeezebox. It runs OK
most of the time, but then occasionally (every few days) gets itself
into a state where the music keeps dropping out, the screen goes blank,
tracks restart randomly. I'd like to determine whether this is due to
wireless
Just installed SqueezeCenter 7.0, which also successfully uninstalled
SlimServer 6.5.4. Everything looks okay, but for some reason it can't
find my music files on my NAS file server. I put in the directory
name, simply mapped as Z:\. This directory is easily accessible via
Explorer.
If I
Oh hang on, it may be breaking it because the files are split across
directories - I've seen some other threads on this. Is there any
resolution to this yet ?
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pablolie,
It would help all of us to know what versions you are using and also
what firmware the SB3 has. Also what operating system and some basic
configuration info on the computer running SS.
Also have you though of upgrading to SC7 rather than SS6.?
I personally have had no problem with SS
funkstar wrote:
If someone makes a bad change to the Wiki, can it not be rolled back to
the previous change? I amways thought this was one of the features of
Wikis, they have a bhuilt in versiion management system. Or does that
depend on the Wiki backend software?
The problem is not so much
Have you checked that SC7 has permission to access the Z:\ drive?
That is probably one of the first things you should check.
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