[slim] Squeezebox 3 and FLAC - 24bit96Khz or not?

2011-03-02 Thread Morbius
Hi, Just recently I've been buying a few High Resolution items, these are mostly encoded as 24bit96khz FLAC files. My Slimdevices Squeezebox 3 plays them back perfectly and they sound great...but I was wondering if it was performing any sort of conversion (to 16bit44.1khz perhaps) before playing

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread reniera
Muele;614844 Wrote: 4. Marketing. Sell the damn stuff. Its actually good products. Afordable whole house audio ranging from cheap bathroom quality audio to audiophile quality-gear. That is unique. But Logitech chooses to just show a boring list of anonomous porducts on their website. 5.

[slim] Screen Font - can it be changed?

2011-03-02 Thread cparker
Hi, Is there anyway of changing the text colour on the newer touch based players? When I'm turning the centre knob on the Radio its hard to see which line is highlighted from arms length, as it just makes the font larger and its not always the line in the centre of the screen. It would be

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-03-02 Thread dave77
How about voice control :) Is there a way to get back to you last position under My Music folders? eg I chose Artist Killers and play an album. Now i'd like to quickly get back to the Killers folder without navigating through everything again. Is that possible? -- dave77 Boom - Controller -

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-03-02 Thread CrankyTom
dave77;614862 Wrote: How about voice control :) Is there a way to get back to you last position under My Music folders? eg I chose Artist Killers and play an album. Now i'd like to quickly get back to the Killers folder without navigating through everything again. Is that possible?

Re: [slim] Squeezebox 3 and FLAC - 24bit96Khz or not?

2011-03-02 Thread bhaagensen
Streaming to SB3 is downsampled to 24/48. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86015

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Cape11
I agree with TerryS on this (noting PL's point about dither). I don't think the evidence for the roughness of 16 bit CD sound is a subtle audio point. Listen to any recording of a string quartet when they play a quiet passage and the roughness of the sound is perfectly obvious. On some

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread adamdea
Cape11;614876 Wrote: I agree with TerryS on this (noting PL's point about dither). I don't think the evidence for the roughness of 16 bit CD sound is a subtle audio point. Listen to any recording of a string quartet when they play a quiet passage and the roughness of the sound is perfectly

Re: [slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?

2011-03-02 Thread stevied123
Really? Then why does it have the options under 'Interface' for long and short date formats (DD/MM/ etc.)? Not saying that you're wrong, just seems rather odd to me if that's the case. -- stevied123 stevied123's

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread adamdea
see also http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=2550 The Talich traversal of the Beethovens originally came out in the dying days of analogue. I loved them then and I love them even more in their CD incarnation, which adds transparency and bite to sound that always was clear and

Re: [slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?

2011-03-02 Thread garym
stevied123;614893 Wrote: Really? Then why does it have the options under 'Interface' for long and short date formats (DD/MM/ etc.)? Not saying that you're wrong, just seems rather odd to me if that's the case. Aren't the long and short date formats options related to the screensaver that

Re: [slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?

2011-03-02 Thread aubuti
garym is correct that those are SB clock formats, not formats for the date/year tag. You can probably achieve what you want by creating an ALBUMSORT and/or ARTISTSORT tag (depending on which browsing behavior you want to change) that combines the different tag elements so that SBS sorts them the

Re: [slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?

2011-03-02 Thread stevied123
Thanks for all the replies, I'll take a look at that suggestion as it's something I really want to integrate. -- stevied123 stevied123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41204 View this thread:

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Cape11
Well, I simply speak as I find. Equipment: Loudspeakers: ATC SCM100 asl Preamp: Chord CPA2800 DAC Chord DSC1500E Deck SME20.2 with series 5 arm Cartridge: Lyra. Squeezebox. (Expensive, yes, but then there's little reason to change the system, and it's already done 15 years of good service).

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Cape11
Phil Leigh;614886 Wrote: That whole filter thing is indeed history, thanks to oversampling which moves the filter way out of harms way...unless you think 384kHz and higher is still an issue?Well is it? Over sampling means there's no need for an filter, but my point was that the frequency

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Cape11;614910 Wrote: Well is it? Over sampling means there's no need for a filter, but my point was that the frequency response is shaped like a cliff edge, and over-ssampling can do nothing to remedy that under-lying condition. I remain concerned about possible phase distortion into the

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Cape11
Well we're both arguing by repetition, so we'll have to agree to differ. -- Cape11 Cape11's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13763 View this thread:

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-03-02 Thread vs27
How can I buy SC for my Android tablet? Every site I have been to wants a cell phone. This is not a phone. -- vs27 vs27's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41655 View this thread:

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Wombat
dsdreamer;614831 Wrote: It is not a feeling, but a reasoned conjecture. Difficult to measure per se without sticking electrodes in people's brains. The non-linear and time variant nature of the human ear's response to sound pressure waves is, however, well-established. The following is

[slim] Question about Tiny SBS

2011-03-02 Thread Ikabob
I am using Tiny server at times these days. I have a premium music service subscription to JazzRadio.com. Because JazzRadio is not in the Squeezebox Gallery, in order for me to stream high level (192kps) music streams to the Squeezebox I have to get the url at JazzRadio.com and cut and paste it

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread bobkoure
Phil Leigh;614911 Wrote: That's the whole point of the Meyer/Moran paper. They inserted a redbook adc-dac chain in the midst of an SACD playback chain. Nobody could hear it! Hi Phil - got a link to that paper? I googled for it, and it's apparently generated loads of controversy ('my google

Re: [slim] Question about Tiny SBS

2011-03-02 Thread aubuti
You can edit the favorites.opml file on the Touch, as described in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85913page=2 If you're on Windows then WinSCP would be a good tool to use for this task. It may also be a good idea to stop TinySBS before editing favorites.opml. --

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
bobkoure;614932 Wrote: Hi Phil - got a link to that paper? I googled for it, and it's apparently generated loads of controversy ('my google search' (http://www.google.com/search?num=50hl=enlr=q=Meyer+Moran+CD+audiobtnG=Searchaq=faqi=aql=oq=)), which IMO is all to the good, but I'd be curious

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Wombat
Phil Leigh;614936 Wrote: Courtesy of Wombat: http://hlloyge.hl.funpic.de/wp-conte...p-inserted.pdf I have that link to that paper from Hydrogenaudio.org On there are similar discussions running, there no one can do esotheric claims without backing it up btw. It is violating the rules then

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread TheLastMan
I think the missing link is a decent server. The item most people have most trouble with is the server software on their PC - esp as most don't want to leave it on 24/7. Tiny SBS works just about OK in the Touch, but IMHO a full specification dedicated mini server (such as a Vortexbox appliance)

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread adamdea
Phil Leigh;614936 Wrote: Courtesy of Wombat: http://hlloyge.hl.funpic.de/wp-conte...p-inserted.pdf wasn't the cd supposed to be long enough to hold a particular Beethoven symphony? (this might be a myth) Yes the ninth. I have no idea whether it's true, but I have heard various versions.

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread maggior
I recall reading an article in recent years celebrating an anniversary of the CD format. In it they discussed the facts and myths surrounding the format's development, including why 74 minutes and so forth. If I remember correctly, they even spoke with members of the team or the key developer.

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread sebp
maggior;614970 Wrote: If I remember correctly, they even spoke with members of the team or the key developer. I'll have to see if I can jog the appropriate memory cells and see if I can locate the article. It would be really nice if it's confirmed by somebody at Sony or Philips. In the

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread erland
TheLastMan;614946 Wrote: Ideally it should have an Intel x86 processor, a simple Linux interface and a single 1TB hard drive. Price it at under $300 / £200 and you would have a real winner - esp if marketed in a bundle with the Touch. The Vortexbox is nearly there, but it needs to be sold

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread erland
Muele;614844 Wrote: What do you think Logitech should do to keep the product alive and profitable? They should just decide on a long term strategy and try to work towards that in their marketing and development plans. I've often felt that there doesn't seem to exist any clear strategy for

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread pski
Look at what Sony did: Best Buy had a huge display but the stuff didn't sell because it stinks. Logitech needs a WORKING display kit that shows how it works, including a PC/router/Touch/Boom and a player attached to a generic stereo. This should include in-store demos as well as a self-guided

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread TheLastMan
erland;615015 Wrote: Would any of your non-technical non audiophile friends or relatives who don't own a Squeezebox today pay $299 for a Touch plus $299 for a 1TB server box ? Well I have three non-technical non audiophile friends who have bought into Sonos at £600 / $900 dollars for a

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread JJZolx
pski;615034 Wrote: Logitech needs a WORKING display kit that shows how it works, including a PC/router/Touch/Boom and a player attached to a generic stereo. That doesn't sound like a good idea to me. It tells the customer he needs all that gear just to get a radio to play a single note. It's

Re: [slim] Question about Tiny SBS

2011-03-02 Thread JJZolx
I don't use either mysb.com or TinySBS, but aren't favorites supposed to be synced, so that if you enter one at mysb.com it should eventually appear within TinySBS? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile:

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread pski
JJZolx;615039 Wrote: That doesn't sound like a good idea to me. It tells the customer he needs all that gear just to get a radio to play a single note. It's like putting big orange safety warning stickers on a kids' toy and expecting anyone to buy it. I think someone at Logitech has

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread JJZolx
pski;615050 Wrote: So when I see a Touch or a Radio at Best Buy and it doesn't do a thing but turn-on how do I know what it does? DUH? The issue is that most people ALREADY have the other stuff. Nothing in their marketing has a single reference to using the player without a server. Of course

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread dsdreamer
Most of the tests were done using a pair of highly regarded, smooth-measuring full-range loudspeakers in a rural listening room with an ambient noise floor of about 19 dBA SPL, all electronics on (see Fig. 2). This vagueness about the equipment being used is a bit of a concern, but I

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread Mnyb
Also a x86 server box at 300$ can you really get a quality machine with good spec for that ? At least it must have a separate flash or ssd for the OS, music on a separate drive and you want to be able to expand it with at least one extra drive ? Dual core atom. This a common mistake done on

Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-02 Thread erland
pski;615050 Wrote: Nothing in their marketing has a single reference to using the player without a server. Which marketing are you talking about ? There isn't much indication in the material on their web shop that indicates that you need a local server to use the device ? Have I missed

Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)

2011-03-02 Thread Mnyb
If you read the paper they are open for that you can not prove nonexistance of something scientifically. So there can be outliers where detections is possible. Also they used more than one setup but these are not specified ? Also some studio monitors where involved in some unspecified cases ?