Re: [slim] FNG. Old Touch. Unable my music Any help appreciated.
In short, to use a networked music player, you need a working network, start with getting that sorted before you do any more troubleshooting on your Squeezebox system. I assume your No 1 router is the one connected to your modem or equivalent on its WAN side and that you then have a wired connection to your PC on the LAN, if so that's pretty much the best practice. If the WiFi part of that router doesn't provide enough signal for your premises there are a few methods to improve coverage. The best method is to add access point(s) where signal is weak. The access point may be a dedicated device, or you may configure a router with WiFi to act as an access point. This is then connected via wire to your router. A different method would be to use WiFi repeaters or range extenders, yet another would be to use powerline ethernet adapters to set up a wired connection to your Touch, but it gets increasingly hit-and-miss the further you stray from the proven solutions. If you have 2nd router wired to your No 1 router I suggest to check if it can be setup as an access point, at a minimum you should disable DHCP on it. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103300 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] NAS SSD Drive...?
Hi all Do many of you use SSD drives in your NAS, are they much better than a normal hard drive, apart from the noise and reliability benefits...? Cheers... mmmadman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
ChipMonk wrote: Just a tiny sign that the BBC is now starting to show some signs of cooperation? Thank you for contacting the BBC iPlayer Support Team. I understand you are unhappy with the changes to internet radio streams? We have been working with manufacturers regarding the recent audio format changes. If you could get back in touch using the contact us form on the link below letting us know what equipment you are using we could maybe see what the latest information from the manufacturer is. Please provide the further details weve asked for via the webform below: http://bbc.in/iplayeremail Remember to include the case number above (starting CAS) when contacting us again. We look forward to hearing from you again. Kind regards Caoilfhionn Cassidy BBC Audience Services There's a clue here. When it asks 'How are you accessing BBC iPlayer', how would you respond 'Internet Radio'? The option doesn't even exist! LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
castalla wrote: I think we should be told the manufacturers who have implemented the changes - I think he means aggregators. And what is the internal/external status of AF ? ... and more Just a tiny sign that the BBC is now starting to show some signs of cooperation? Thank you for contacting the BBC iPlayer Support Team. I understand you are unhappy with the changes to internet radio streams? We have been working with manufacturers regarding the recent audio format changes. If you could get back in touch using the contact us form on the link below letting us know what equipment you are using we could maybe see what the latest information from the manufacturer is. Please provide the further details weve asked for via the webform below: http://bbc.in/iplayeremail Remember to include the case number above (starting CAS) when contacting us again. We look forward to hearing from you again. Kind regards Caoilfhionn Cassidy BBC Audience Services ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
ChipMonk wrote: Just a tiny sign that the BBC is now starting to show some signs of cooperation? Thank you for contacting the BBC iPlayer Support Team. I understand you are unhappy with the changes to internet radio streams? We have been working with manufacturers regarding the recent audio format changes. If you could get back in touch using the contact us form on the link below letting us know what equipment you are using we could maybe see what the latest information from the manufacturer is. Please provide the further details weve asked for via the webform below: http://bbc.in/iplayeremail Remember to include the case number above (starting CAS) when contacting us again. We look forward to hearing from you again. Kind regards Caoilfhionn Cassidy BBC Audience Services Try it! Let's see what you get back Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: I am finding it increasing difficult not to tell the BBC that when they say RTMP was turned off, and that's why Listen Again doesn't work on Internet Radios, that they are telling an untruth. My understanding is that they did was change the URLs in a way the devices couldn't handle. Some may say that if I do this they really may turn the feeds off. But I also have read that they are used for computer iPlayer Listen Again feeds, so there's no risk to the great facilities provided by bpa for now. The reason I feel the BBC should be told is that it shows they don't know what is really going on at all, and that the change could probably be reversed if they put their minds to it (even if just by clever use of URLs). Can I ask for comments? Not a good idea - they could just as easily mess the up the whole caboodle (based on past experience!). If it ain't broke, don't fix it! I'm sure you're right about them being out-of-the-loop since I suspect the whole thing (despite claims they are involved) is being implemented by Unified Streaming and maybe the interface with the BBC end is being handled by the ubiquitous 'Kevin' who's probably on a zero-hours contract. You did see W1A, didn't you???!!! Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: I am finding it increasing difficult not to tell the BBC that when they say RTMP was turned off, and that's why Listen Again doesn't work on Internet Radios, that they are telling an untruth. My understanding is that they did was change the URLs in a way the devices couldn't handle. Some may say that if I do this they really may turn the feeds off. But I also have read that they are used for computer iPlayer Listen Again feeds, so there's no risk to the great facilities provided by bpa for now. The reason I feel the BBC should be told is that it shows they don't know what is really going on at all, and that the change could probably be reversed if they put their minds to it (even if just by clever use of URLs). Can I ask for comments? My inclination would be to hold fire on this. The BBC have so far conceded very little and delivered even less. We have more to lose than to gain in using this information in the current impasse. Let's just see if their position changes (unlikely) or they start saying things which even more blatantly contradict the facts as we see them. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
castalla wrote: Not a good idea - they could just as easily mess the up the whole caboodle (based on past experience!). If it ain't broke, don't fix it! I'm sure you're right about them being out-of-the-loop since I suspect the whole thing (despite claims they are involved) is being implemented by Unified Streaming and maybe the interface with the BBC end is being handled by the ubiquitous 'Kevin' who's probably on a zero-hours contract. You did see W1A, didn't you???!!! I have no idea what W1A is, sorry. I'll hold fire for a bit, but can someone tell me if what I read about RTMP still being used for computer-based Listen Again is correct? LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
ChipMonk wrote: My inclination would be to hold fire on this. The BBC have so far conceded very little and delivered even less. We have more to lose than to gain in using this information in the current impasse. Let's just see if their position changes (unlikely) or they start saying things which even more blatantly contradict the facts as we see them. OK, as I said to Castalla I'll hold fire for now. I am, however, thinking of a wider world than ours. If LA could be restored for more people that would be a good thing. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS SSD Drive...?
I don't think you will see any real performance gain on the music storage side during normal operations. But an SSD for the OS and LMS application and database provides a dramatic improvement, particularly on Windows based systems. Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.9.0 - Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.3 - Cambridge Audio DacMagic - NAD C160 - 2 x NAD C272 - Quad 22L2 get.amped's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
Got the plug in installed and working on my LMS web player screen. Signed up for Tidal, and got that done. Verified by signing in directly. Now, I o to Ickstream under my apps and it's there. It tells me I need to sign in under the advanced settings. I then click on Tidal for the sign in page, enter my login info, click log in and .nothing. I get this message: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request POST /ickstream-cloud-tidal/auth. Reason: Error reading from remote server Can anyone help? jmsent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
JohnB wrote: I was initially tempted to raise the matter myself on the BBC Internet Blog but decided against doing so as it might prompt the BBC to take action to stop the RTMP on-demand streams earlier than they might do otherwise. It is currently our only source if 320 kbps Radio 3 Listen Again. I realise that for some people that is of little consequence and regard it as a minor issue but there are others for whom the Radio 3 320 kbps is of major importance. I would strongly discourage you from challenging Andrew Scott over the continued existence of the RTMP LA streams, whether or not they are still used by the BBC's browser client. If the streams are still used by the browser they aren't going to stop them are they? And if they do change the browser the service we use will almost certainly stop anyway. Still, I will, as I've said, hold off for now. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: I'm not feeling noble, just annoyed! Still, I agree that I shouldn't say anything until and unless I'm very sure of my facts (although we do know for sure that bpa's BBCiPlayer Extras is still using RTMP, don't we?). Even then I'll try not to say anything unless I can persuade at least some people here that it is for the best. Stop talking about this. Andrew Scott words are nuanced he said the *syndicated* streams (i.e those people who are allowed to use the XML feed) have stopped using RTMP. The Extra plugin uses old unpublished feeds (i.e. Andrew Scott said reverse engineered) which may be cut off at any time. BBC could (if provoked) easily change browser to use HDS still using Flash so it is technically very easy but there may be contractual issue yet to be sorted. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Full scan hangs
DJanGo, Thanks for taking a look. The last time I ran a scan it took 3 hours before I could gain access to the Squeezebox again. I think the scanning process itself is being completed in 10-15 minutes, but then there is some disk activity (??) going on for the next 2 hours and 45 minutes that I can't account for. At this point the only solution seems to be setting up a rescan to automatically run in the wee hours of the morning when I won't need access to the Squeezebox. Steve radish112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103334 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Full scan hangs
If you are running VortexBox 2.3, I suggest installing LMS 7.9 from the Squeeze Community repository and see if that fixes your scanning issues. See http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki-index.php?page=squeezecommunity-2.3 for installation instructions. LMS 7.9 has significant improvements to the scanning code over LMS 7.8; see http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/public/7.9/Changelog7.html for details. Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103334 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
ChipMonk wrote: Well spotted hence my reply to Dear Ms Cassidy You have asked me to input my problem into the BBC web form below. Unfortunately this form does not include any devices such as internet radios or specialised internet radio steaming hardware as produced by world class companies such as Linn, Naim, Cambridge Audio, Sonos, Marantz, Logitech etc. This would suggest to me that the BBCs working with manufacturers has been completely blind to a whole segment of the Radio Streaming industry and associated listening public. Serious listeners to the best radio broadcasts in the world dont necessarily listen on phones, tablets or TVs but on dedicated, high quality audio equipment. The BBC does not seem to be even aware of that possibility. To address this you need to modify your online form as a matter of urgency, so those affected, like myself, can input their problems in a meaningful way. More importantly, the BBC needs to do some immediate research into the actual number of streaming radio listeners who have been adversely impacted by this poorly implemented dash to DASH etc. The numbers of complaints registered on the BBC blogs and the ongoing ePetition: https://www.change.org/p/the-bbc-trust-and-the-bbc-director-general-restore-aac-audio-and-listen-again-indefinitely-for-internet-radio-devices-2 reflect this. However, many more less technically able, for example many in the blind community, will still not be sure what has gone wrong with their streaming service let alone have found their way to these rather esoteric websites I hope you will be able to reply with some indication that the BBC has begun to wake up to just what the problem is for some of its most loyal and committed listeners. Thank you __ Unfortunately, Ms Cassidy's reply email address is blocked so the above email immediately bounced back. I then spent 10 minutes navigating through the horrible multi-drop-down feedback site and cut down my reply to fit into several boxes with 200 character max restrictions! Then, to add insult to injury, when I pressed submit I got absolutely no indication of whether it had gone through or not. Don't you just love 'em. 10/10 for persistence! Just post it on the blog! Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS SSD Drive...?
I think for a normal consumer/prosumer/small office usage, the benefits are negligible. Or do you have 10 Gb Ethernet devices at home?? poing's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS SSD Drive...?
I guess the reason that people are suggesting you won't see much/any speed benefits from an SSD in a NAS is that the music server will (probably?) be connected to your music player by 100Mbps or maybe 1Gbps Ethernet (and you won't reach those nominal transfer speeds anyway: probably reaching only half the headline speed). Anyway, you don't need -speed- for music playback do you? Martin at *_'HeadSpin_HD' (http://www.headspin.plus.com)_* now on -*Blu-ray-* mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FNG. Old Touch. Unable my music Any help appreciated.
alfista wrote: In short, to use a networked music player, you need a working network, start with getting that sorted before you do any more troubleshooting on your Squeezebox system. I assume your No 1 router is the one connected to your modem or equivalent on its WAN side and that you then have a wired connection to your PC on the LAN, if so that's pretty much the best practice. YES, this is how my system starts If the WiFi part of that router doesn't provide enough signal for your premises there are a few methods to improve coverage. The best method is to add access point(s) where signal is weak. The access point may be a dedicated device, or you may configure a router with WiFi to act as an access point. This is then connected via wire to your router. -It works OK for the Touch, but using a laptop in other areas of the house was impossible. That's why I added the 2nd wifi router- A different method would be to use WiFi repeaters or range extenders, yet another would be to use powerline ethernet adapters to set up a wired connection to your Touch, but it gets increasingly hit-and-miss the further you stray from the proven solutions. If you have 2nd router wired to your No 1 router I suggest to check if it can be setup as an access point, at a minimum you should disable DHCP on it. OK. Thanks. I have no idea what that means, but it gives me a starting point to troubleshoot and educate myself on. My verizon modem has 4 yellow ethernet ports and one white ethernet port, labeled WAN. I have the 2nd wifi modem plugged into one of the yellow ports. Shall I swap it to the white? Or am I just throwing darts? Thanks again for your input. I dearly love my Touch and would like to get it righteous again. oldmako's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103300 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
jmsent wrote: Got the plug in installed and working on my LMS web player screen. Signed up for Tidal, and got that done. Verified by signing in directly. Now, I o to Ickstream under my apps and it's there. It tells me I need to sign in under the advanced settings. I then click on Tidal for the sign in page, enter my login info, click log in and .nothing. I get this message: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request POST /ickstream-cloud-tidal/auth. Reason: Error reading from remote server Can anyone help? I was able to log on to Facebook via Ickstream with no problem, so this is a problem somewhere between Ickstream and Tidal? We are experiencing some stability issues with the ickStream server following an update on Tidal's Infrastructure. We're looking into it and we'll fix it as soon as possible. You can check the progress from the ickStream forum: https://forum.ickstream.com/viewtopic.php?f=11t=506 Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A world of music at your fingertips. remd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: There's a clue here. When it asks 'How are you accessing BBC iPlayer', how would you respond 'Internet Radio'? The option doesn't even exist! Well spotted hence my reply to Dear Ms Cassidy You have asked me to input my problem into the BBC web form below. Unfortunately this form does not include any devices such as internet radios or specialised internet radio steaming hardware as produced by world class companies such as Linn, Naim, Cambridge Audio, Sonos, Marantz, Logitech etc. This would suggest to me that the BBCs working with manufacturers has been completely blind to a whole segment of the Radio Streaming industry and associated listening public. Serious listeners to the best radio broadcasts in the world dont necessarily listen on phones, tablets or TVs but on dedicated, high quality audio equipment. The BBC does not seem to be even aware of that possibility. To address this you need to modify your online form as a matter of urgency, so those affected, like myself, can input their problems in a meaningful way. More importantly, the BBC needs to do some immediate research into the actual number of streaming radio listeners who have been adversely impacted by this poorly implemented dash to DASH etc. The numbers of complaints registered on the BBC blogs and the ongoing ePetition: https://www.change.org/p/the-bbc-trust-and-the-bbc-director-general-restore-aac-audio-and-listen-again-indefinitely-for-internet-radio-devices-2 reflect this. However, many more less technically able, for example many in the blind community, will still not be sure what has gone wrong with their streaming service let alone have found their way to these rather esoteric websites I hope you will be able to reply with some indication that the BBC has begun to wake up to just what the problem is for some of its most loyal and committed listeners. Thank you __ Unfortunately, Ms Cassidy's reply email address is blocked so the above email immediately bounced back. I then spent 10 minutes navigating through the horrible multi-drop-down feedback site and cut down my reply to fit into several boxes with 200 character max restrictions! Then, to add insult to injury, when I pressed submit I got absolutely no indication of whether it had gone through or not. Don't you just love 'em. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS SSD Drive...?
Thanks poing, no it's purely for music files for my SBT, only need upto 1TB. I'm in the process of choosing a NAS drive. I just thought an SSD would be more reliable and quieter, not sure if faster or not, this is all new to me so not got a clue...!!! Any tips/recommendations on a NAS drive...? Cheers... mmmadman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
castalla wrote: 10/10 for persistence! Just post it on the blog! Indeed. I also started to make a comment on the blog, but because the iPlayer 'help' URL has 'tv' in it guessed I would be ignored again. I have asked for my complaint to be escalated to stage 2 but doubt anything will happen. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Full scan hangs
Folks, I got some sound advice from Ron Olsen, an Administrator over at the Vortexbox Forums, that the file I uploaded here yesterday was already zipped, which was indicated by the .gz extension. Following Ron's instructions, I have uploaded a straight zip file this time. I appreciate any help you might be able to give me with my problem. Thanks, Steve +---+ |Filename: scanner.log-20150318.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17681| +---+ radish112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103334 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FNG. Old Touch. Unable my music Any help appreciated.
Can I use my wireless or an extra router along with the Verizon provided router? http://www.dslreports.com/faq/12506 Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103300 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: I am finding it increasing difficult not to tell the BBC that when they say RTMP was turned off, and that's why Listen Again doesn't work on Internet Radios, that they are telling an untruth. My understanding is that they did was change the URLs in a way the devices couldn't handle. Some may say that if I do this they really may turn the feeds off. But I also have read that they are used for computer iPlayer Listen Again feeds, so there's no risk to the great facilities provided by bpa for now. The reason I feel the BBC should be told is that it shows they don't know what is really going on at all, and that the change could probably be reversed if they put their minds to it (even if just by clever use of URLs). Can I ask for comments? I was initially tempted to raise the matter myself on the BBC Internet Blog but decided against doing so as it might prompt the BBC to take action to stop the RTMP on-demand streams earlier than they might do otherwise. It is currently our only source if 320 kbps Radio 3 Listen Again. I realise that for some people that is of little consequence and regard it as a minor issue but there are others for whom the Radio 3 320 kbps is of major importance. I would strongly discourage you from challenging Andrew Scott over the continued existence of the RTMP LA streams, whether or not they are still used by the BBC's browser client. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Full scan hangs
radish112 wrote: [15-03-17 12:01:18.3693] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (620) Completed precacheArtwork Scan in 87 seconds. [15-03-17 12:01:18.5973] Slim::Music::Import::runScanPostProcessing (403) Starting Database optimization. [15-03-17 12:01:18.5984] Slim::Schema::optimizeDB (440) Start schema_optimize [15-03-17 12:23:14.4491] Slim::Schema::optimizeDB (454) End schema_optimize [15-03-17 12:23:14.4615] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (620) Completed dbOptimize Scan in 1315 seconds. [15-03-17 12:23:14.7623] Slim::Music::Import::runScanPostProcessing (411) Finished background scanning. [15-03-17 12:23:14.8010] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (398) Notify to server: [end] [15-03-17 12:23:14.8127] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (422) Notify to server OK [15-03-17 12:23:14.8938] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (398) Notify to server: [exit] [15-03-17 12:23:16.6377] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (422) Notify to server OK Scanner is done. i didnt find (fastforward) no errors? Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103334 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
I am finding it increasing difficult not to tell the BBC that when they say RTMP was turned off, and that's why Listen Again doesn't work on Internet Radios, that they are telling an untruth. My understanding is that they did was change the URLs in a way the devices couldn't handle. Some may say that if I do this they really may turn the feeds off. But I also have read that they are used for computer iPlayer Listen Again feeds, so there's no risk to the great facilities provided by bpa for now. The reason I feel the BBC should be told is that it shows they don't know what is really going on at all, and that the change could probably be reversed if they put their minds to it (even if just by clever use of URLs). Can I ask for comments? LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: OK, as I said to Castalla I'll hold fire for now. I am, however, thinking of a wider world than ours. If LA could be restored for more people that would be a good thing. Since Squeezebox users are largely on top of this situation, thanks to the efforts of key members of this community, those of us still slugging it out with the Beeb are doing it largely on behalf of a silent minority who may, or may not, give a damn! Your objectives are admirable but I'd prefer to see more evidence that the BBC would use your information for good rather than harm. I can't answer your question about RTMP use for PC streams - but it's important that we get these facts absolutely right before we accuse the BBC management of being misinformed. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
ChipMonk wrote: Since Squeezebox users are largely on top of this situation, thanks to the efforts of key members of this community, those of us still slugging it out with the Beeb are doing it largely on behalf of a silent minority who may, or may not, give a damn! Your objectives are admirable but I'd prefer to see more evidence that the BBC would use your information for good rather than harm. I can't answer your question about RTMP use for PC streams - but it's important that we get these facts absolutely right before we accuse the BBC management of being misinformed. I'm not feeling noble, just annoyed! Still, I agree that I shouldn't say anything until and unless I'm very sure of my facts (although we do know for sure that bpa's BBCiPlayer Extras is still using RTMP, don't we?). Even then I'll try not to say anything unless I can persuade at least some people here that it is for the best. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: I'm not feeling noble, just annoyed! Still, I agree that I shouldn't say anything until and unless I'm very sure of my facts (although we do know for sure that bpa's BBCiPlayer Extras is still using RTMP, don't we?). Even then I'll try not to say anything unless I can persuade at least some people here that it is for the best. I'd keep mumm about this. Everything is hanging by a thread ... we don't even know if the Beeb are communicating with sb developers, or who is doing what. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PasTim wrote: I have no idea what W1A is, sorry. I'll hold fire for a bit, but can someone tell me if what I read about RTMP still being used for computer-based Listen Again is correct? W1A was an off-beat sitcom comedy set in the BBC hq - very funny and full of characters like 'Head of BBC Future Media', etc. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
