Seems likely they should be able to cope with providing keys that will
be used this way - distributed to many users.
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It did mention sync. But otherwise I'd rather trawl ebay for used sqb..
the only additional thing I'd like there is a Bluetooth audio- like
capability to throw audio from my mobile device.
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"Retro" design nonsense.
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> > data that's available. it's actually better in the car for the most
> > part, at least those systems that relay on Nuance AVR.
>
> How do you know which system they're using? And what is "Nuance AVR"
> anyway? Google doesn't really show up anything interesting... And would
atrocity wrote:
> What I've learned so far about the Amazon Cloud Windows client:
>
> (5 silly things)...
Sounds like a beta version...
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DanielF wrote:
> ... encoded them to FLAC with ReplayGain.
>
Out of interest, what encoder did you use to calculate the replaygain?
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Meanwhile, still would like to find out how to find a live value of the
in-use bitrate on the spdif outputs..
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Julf wrote:
> Obviously I can. A lot of what makes up good sound quality as an
> objective criteria can be quantified and measured, and subjective
> preferences can also be measured (in the meaning of "assignment of a
> number to a characteristic of an object or event, which can be compared
>
My ears. Haha. YMMV.
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Mnyb wrote:
> It should be noted that there are no real 24 bit audio anywhere ( except
> some electronica ) both ADC and DAC is practically limited to about 21
> bit in practice a squeezebox touch analog out would be aproxmately 17
> bits .
Indeed, I'm told my DAC manages about 18 bit of clear
Mnyb wrote:
> But the point is when there is no difference a human could hear ? then
> taste does not come into to it at all . We are there with most digital
> sources of reasonable quality .
>
> Most "issues" these days are of such smal influence that human bias are
> magnitudes bigger .
>
>
Julf wrote:
> Rather unlikely. I would suspect your DAC getting into some funky mode,
> and resynchronizing when you unplug and replug the cable.
Also possible. Annoying if so cos trust me I do not have a spare..
Julf wrote:
> You keep making claims without any factual support. We don't know that
> we can't measure to tell the difference between the type of sound you
> prefer and the type I prefer until we try. It might be possible that our
> preferences differ based on easily measurable parameters.
How
Julf wrote:
> Indeed. Factual accuracy is a true sign of pedantry.
Everything you said was obvious and not "news" to anyone. You still
can't measure to tell the difference between the type of sound I prefer
and the type you prefer.
Julf wrote:
> As it should be in any decently designed DAC - if your DAC is sensitive
> to source, there is something wrong.
My point exactly. Bits is bits, so if it isn't awesome, something is
wrong.
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Mnyb wrote:
> That's weird ? Assuming you have a normally very quit DAC ? Much gain in
> the system ?
It's not particularly quiet no, and the gain on the DAC through the
pre-amp is very high which makes this worse. Result is noise level is
relatively obvious if it steps up a few dB (such as
Julf wrote:
> So worth trying to isolate the issue. Next time your system goes into
> the weird mode, try turning the DAC on and off to see if it fixes the
> problem.
Pretty sure I have power cycled the amp during this phase before and it
didn't snap out of it but yes this is obviously one to
Corporate VPN solutions very much frown upon allowing local access to
anything, even if you have local admin in windows (so much stuff is
policy driven) so the only real option is to password protect and open
up your lms to the Internet. Seems crazy to have to send traffic to the
office to come
Fwiw (warning: not measured, for those that care) I have the impression
that the background noise level is noticeably higher when the issue is
happening...
Gonna swap the SBT..
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Always disable replaygain when doing critical listening as it's done in
the digital domain and adds aliasing at the LSB.
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Mnyb wrote:
> Squeezeboxes always put out 24bit data 16 bit material is paddel with
> 8bits and then the volume control is made in 24bit it's not dithered but
> the steps are cleverly chosen so and truncation happens at rely low
> volumes where the volume is low :) so you practically don't hear
Julf wrote:
> Fair enough, but not something I would advice other people to -always-
> do.
My view really is that disabling RG and setting fixed 100% vol will
never hurt the quality and it /can/ degrade it. So I figured it was a
fair punt!
Well, in my case I have an external DAC so I want the original bits off
the CD sent to it at 44k/16b. The volume and replaygain are applied
within this precision and are audible.
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Well I have a 16 bit DAC with an analogue pre-amp and volume control
after it. The DAC is 24 bit capable though.
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It's a 24b/96k DAC. Have to admit I assumed the SB was sending 16 bits
because the source is a 16 bit flac.. Maybe that's not true.
I am however certain that using the digital volume or replaygain on the
SB results in poorer, not just quieter, sound...
Julf wrote:
> Disabling RG will not hurt quality, but you lose the RG functionality,
> so there should be a somewhat better reason that "it won't hurt". As to
> volume control, digital volume control can often be much better than
> analog, so setting fixed 100% vol is actually harmful to sound
Could be just me, but you get to use the official SB app from the play
store too. Doesn't work for me after the upgrades to lms 7.9.
I did upgrade to hopefully fix some issues with cover photo cache DB
size, but nothing much changed. In the end I gained library views, which
is cool, but I have
One question - did you check uptime on your router?
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I have heard one or two comments that the WiFi performance can degrade
when the power supply degrades.. May not be so easy to try that one out.
I have to say though I've run a SB touch on WiFi running 8-12 hours per
day streaming radio services and with WiFi strength generally over 60%
all day
kidstypike wrote:
> Nothing to to with the LMS version, Android OS 5.x and later broke it.
> Not likely to get fixed though.
Aha, that would be it. Thanks for confirming. Pity, it supported some
useful things that don't work in e.g. squeezer.
Dunno I used to have chronic issues with one router that failed to renew
any dhcp leases on wired clients once it had been up for more than a
couple of days. It was useless... Seems likely the FritzBox will not be
this dumb, but you never know..
I used to use rsync to maintain an offsite backup - you can have it
write out the change journal to a file then transport that file via USB
drive (or whatever) to be later applied at the target end. But now I go
for portable drives so they're not even mounted in order to be
susceptible to
If it supports WMM I would turn that off too..
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Reason I ask about the router is that the only time I had problems my
router was crashing... And the only way you can for sure what caused
that last brief outage was to check the uptime..
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Redrum wrote:
> Something else but on topic, Through squeezebox information, I can only
> get a snapshot of the signal strength. Has anyone, through a SB app, or,
> say SqueezeCntrl (which I use) or similar, created a "live" display of
> the % that the SB sees? Just curious. It seems like it
I would look at Powerline ethernet connectors in your position. You
don't need a high speed link for audio.
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I've been looking at tools for Amazon glacier for ages but never got far
with setting anything up. By far the cheapest, for data, and you can
(and should) encrypt it before you upload. Not suited to rapid updates
though.
JJZolx wrote:
> Why would anyone bother to encrypt media files to store them in the
> cloud? More sensitive data, sure.
I would likely not just be uploading music, so for me it's a definite.
And even amongst the music there may be stuff I do not still own. Ahem.
So, just for privacy sake. They
Signal strength as reported by the SB is "received" signal strength, it
does not measure the integrity of the signal that makes it back to your
router..
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Fair enough, we have a big kitchen so even the missus conceded there was
space for a more normal stereo setup.. :)
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Blackfiction wrote:
> I would like to have a single active speaker with AUX in, wireless or
> wired, that looks nice, plays ok, and is positioned above ear height.
> The Sonos ticked those boxes although I also considered the Audio Pro
> Addon T10 and Audio Pro AllRoom Air One.
>
> Do you know
Blame sonos. Buy proper active speakers. I guess you must have a reason
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Jim Pattison wrote:
> After I posted my comment and read it over, I began to wonder if perhaps
> I'd shared a little too much...
Sounds like BS need to modify network timeouts to tolerate slightly less
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Benefactor wrote:
> It has always been a simple reboot to reconnect.
>
> Today I was prompted to do the setup again manually for some unknown
> reason.
Household power glitch?
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Yeah I suspect this app is just past its time now, there are plenty of
alternatives. The only advantage it does seem to have is matching the UI
a bit more closely.
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reinholdk wrote:
> This would also be a nice task for an Amazon Dash button that you could
> stick near your front door.
Great idea! But.. I have kids. It needs to be password protected.. :)
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Apesbrain wrote:
> PowerSave plugin will put each player into standby after a set time of
> inactivity. Or, using Netcat you can run a batch file at the recurring
> time of your choice:
>
> >
Code:
> >
> @echo off
>
> ::adapt the following set statements
>
Would love to take one of your Booms off your hands but not sure import
duties etc to the UK would make it worthwhile..
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The pi audio output also improved drastically between the early revs and
the model B. Pi 2 and 3 are pretty decent but you're right they may not
produce enough volume for some headphones.
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Is anyone also just streaming from a dlna server? Saves complications at
the client end.
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Have to go digging for signatures in Tapatalk!
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... but that would involve you taking a boom through customs only to
chuck ot over the wall at a greedy eyed Brit. :)
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Press the + next to the track for more info, it tells you the artist and
album.. click on the album. Click play next to the album.
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The killer solution would be a software streaming target e.g. a software
chromecast, but I think development of that would be a bit of a slog.
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There's a strong market for the touch, but the duet is much less loved.
Both are worth money in good order though and if you will really never
use them again you should definitely liquidate.
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Depends which country you are in but broadly speaking recording has
always been legal, it's what you record and what you do with it that
matters.
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Mnyb wrote:
> Is that any legal difference between a software and a good old fashioned
> tape recorder ?
Legally no but they have not often bothered to prosecute "lossy"
recording methods like tape, historically. They were more concerned
about redistribution with the advent of perfect digital
Wavinput plugin is the usual response, assuming your LMS server has an
audio input you can get to (or plug a chromecast into).
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Have a search through older threads, but I would start with a
replacement PSU myself..
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Aha. DRM. Not much you can do then other than root your phone or connect
its analogue audio out to an input that can be streamed from.
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I think by default it also doesn't cross-fade between tracks in the same
album.
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Doesn't it do some analysis of the end/start of each track to see if
they are suitable for crossfading too? Or did I dream that...?
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The (correct) statement was qualified, cites a reference and postscripts
the whole thing with a massive winking smiley. I hope most people didn't
take it too seriously.
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RonM wrote:
> You need to be a bit more careful about such assertive, and wrong,
> statements.
Fortunately the context for the statement that preceded it was "here in
the UK".. so in fact it's true.
Anyway, the whole area is an international joke. People have been and
will continue to format
Under fair use it means you are recording the sample (and it should
normally be just a sample not an entire track) for parody, criticism, or
other legitimate commentary.
Fair use provides no protection for arbitrarily recording protected
works for indefinite later replays, even if you have no
Just because no-one knows how ipv6 works.. :)
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Wait till they enforce ipv6, then there will be none.
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I wonder if anyone has searched the darkwebs for LMS attacks..? There
are probably "slurp all the music and set some annoying alarms" scripts
out there.
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You do, you know the control protocol. The script kiddies know nothing,
they just run scripts.
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Your what? What model?
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Never used Spotify, don't expect to start. Doesn't bother me one jot if
it goes away. Everything does, all is ephemeral on the internet.
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I believe there is a password reset page on the mysb website. The code
for the app is frozen in aspic, it will not be updated to bypass MYSB.
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I used to do that in a record library. :)
Just saying that for a lot of people the loss of this one aspect won't
kill the platform.
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If the NAS has a gigabit port it should autodetect crossover. But the
Receiver won't it's only 100Mb.
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The word "better" is absolute and needs to be based on a measurable
quantity. Truth is it sounds "different", maybe, but not "better".
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Have to say, this is refreshing. We don't often get newbie questions on
a forum devoted to obsolete hardware! :)
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kidstypike wrote:
> Android *Squeeze Ctrl* app and *Switch Player* for me. Only this
> combination transfers the playlist to another player *AND* the app
> switches to controlling the player you've transferred the playlist to!I used
> to use Switch Player but it doesn't show up in the menus on
kidstypike wrote:
> so.. ... ditch Squeezer :rolleyes:No, it's free and ultra fast, I like it,
> and MWWM works fine. (Allowing
both "pull" and "push" playlist movement.)
I even fixed some bugs on it!
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I use squeezer app, and as for plugins it's BBC iPlayer anyday and
"music walk with me" as a playlist shifter from room to room.
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I would say one Pi3 is more than capable of doing more than one job at a
time. LMS is not demanding, even with lame mp3 encoding.
I have a Pi3 that's more than capable of running full speed arcade
machine emulation at the same time as "motion" security camera type
stuff at the same time as
I've seen the artwork.db file hit well over a GB on occasions so yeah
with LMS i'd give it at least a 8GB card.
Impressive that it's only 85KB base image though. For those doing
backups, most of the card is empty space so zip it it'll shrink
massively.
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Nice work. Next challenge is to get it on the Spectrum Next playing back
through the SID chips.. :)
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This is why I would start with raspbian, add squeezelite, manage it as
per raspbian, and add software as I pleased, the raspbian way. That will
include lots of features out the box that you don't need, and will work
just fine as a media renderer. IMHO it's probably harder to start with
PCP and
"Newbie doesn't need to know" ;)
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Erm, on Squeezer the volume buttons on your device will *always* control
the volume on the connected Squeezebox. It even says this when you first
install it.
This is not supposed to be a religious argument...
(And yes I agree the lazy loading of the artists/albums in the scroll
list is a bit
If you can identify their mysb accounts then you could insert a message
on their login banner?
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Here's what mine has looked like over the past year... No probs
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Actually I suspect you'll find a lot of people on the forum are quite
happy with the status quo. The Pi/DAC/open source LMS solution is very
compelling. Any reignite of Logitech official Interest could well see
them grabbing that back in-house. At the very least it would likely be
based around
These are smartphone chips, totally designed to operate without
dedicated cooling and will throttle themselves if it gets outside range.
Unless you find it stuttering or slowing down, it's completely fine.
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Mnyb wrote:
>
> Anyhow some stubborn fellow wants to sync 24/192 pcm over 5 players :D
> and comes to our forum.
Hah, works for me :)
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Those are "new, old stock" transporters. There is no manufacturing for a
decade or so.
LMS was always too hard for people, Sonos fixed that and appeals to the
Apple buying industrial design generation to boot, despite being broadly
mediocre for various reasons. Logitech had a ground breaking
This is normal for user agreements See the recent DJI firmware
updates; they will brick your drone if you don't update.
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At least until the law catches up with this latest abuse of consumer
rights and stops them, yes..
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Sonos also made the executive decision to cripple their digital outputs,
for reasons no one can fathom; nor do they seem interested in sorting it
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> Infinite is a bit of an exaggeration. But I can fit 4 -3 1/2" drives in
> my box. Right now it is easy to obtain a 10 TB Hard Drive. How much is
> Amazon going to charge for 40 TB of data? Also how long does it take to
> download that information if your house catches fire
bakker_be wrote:
> Ehm, aren't we confusing *GOOGLE* drive and *AMAZON* drive here?
>
> Back to Amazon Drive:
> 'rclone' (https://rclone.org/) seems to support it, and it has a "check"
> function that compares file hashes allowing you to skip files that
> calculate as identical.
No sign of an
Input cross talk on your amplifier.
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Big question: how is your Lms connection linked in to the LAN? Via
ethernet, I assume...? And, we assume that both 2.4 and 5 GHz WiFi
networks are on the same subnet and are set to bridge on the router..?
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