Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-08-21 Thread callesoroe
w3wilkes wrote: > but the one hit wonders don't seem to have that formula for longevity > that we saw in the 60's. You really first know that after 10-20 year….. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-08-13 Thread w3wilkes
One of the things I look for is bands that are capable of doing whole albums like "Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit". I know we had the "one hit wonders" like "J. Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers", but the one hit wonders don't seem to have that formula for longevity that we saw in the 60's. Main

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-08-13 Thread d6jg
I disagree. The advent of CDs and now streamed albums has brought more tracks per media format than before. Yes there a single track releases but more EPs and albums? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen ->

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-08-12 Thread cathcam
toby10 wrote: > Indeed. You could also bring back cassettes, 8-tracks, HD-DVD, beta > max/VHS, etc… Overtime, I expect to see the end of the album as a concept, and thats more worrying. As streaming services become more embedded and a way for the media giants to maintain a profitable lock on

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-01-21 Thread toby10
earthbased wrote: > Everything has a price. Indeed. You could also bring back cassettes, 8-tracks, HD-DVD, beta max/VHS, etc… Is there a (albeit small) market for them? Sure. But when your competition for the above is CD’s & downloads, Bluetooth & WiFi, streaming, Blu-ray, DVD….. why

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-01-21 Thread Paul Webster
I think that Logitech has stopped selling its AirPlay speaker. So does this mean that it does not have any speakers with TCP/IP in them any more? Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile:

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-01-20 Thread pippin
Well, Porsche, to begin with, already no longer exists (as a company making cars) today... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-01-20 Thread garym
earthbased wrote: > Porsche should shut down immediately! Porsche and all other auto manufacturers will look much different in the near future (and some will not exist). Younger people are no longer interested in owning cars or the driving experience. They are very happy with mass

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-01-20 Thread earthbased
Mnyb wrote: > I know . Working in a multinational myself :) the top floor does not > really know what to do with smaller products even if they work well in > their niche's and even turn a small profit with reasonable margin . > They just cant fit it into both bussines model and organisation .

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-01-20 Thread earthbased
toby10 wrote: > This has been discussed in here for years, over and over. It will never > happen. It will never be resurrected, nor sold, nor licensed to a third > party, etc.. > It's dead as a viable consumer product offering. Everything has a price.

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2018-01-16 Thread Vegz78
FredFredrickson wrote: > Who thinks Logitech should resurrect the brand and start selling > squeezeboxen again? I do! I would also hope for different brands, with different quality, audiophile and price ranges, and different solutions, with everything from full players like the boom and radio,

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-27 Thread DrewSB
cathcam wrote: > Anyone else notice the similarity between the Duet+controller and the > Harmony Pro and the Home Hub... > https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-pro?crid=60 > > I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a > player or LMS? Yes, it works. I was

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-20 Thread iPhone
cathcam wrote: > I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a > player or LMS? . . The Harmony Pro will control most if not ALL Slim Devices that use IR Remote. The Duet IE Receiver/Controller are RF Controlled devices so the Harmony Pro doesn't work with them. *iPhone*

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-20 Thread drmatt
Apesbrain wrote: > I use a Harmony 650 to control a Touch.Via infrared presumably. It would be > interesting to know if there are vestiges of the LMS cli over Ethernet, is the point of the original question if I read it right. Personally I very very much doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised if

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-20 Thread Apesbrain
cathcam wrote: > I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a > player or LMS? I use a Harmony 650 to control a Touch. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-20 Thread andifor
garym wrote: > These last few posts are talking about SONOS, not Sonore. Many (all?) > Sonore products already work with LMS, as they include Squeezelite. Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. andifor's Profile:

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-20 Thread BirdInitials
drmatt wrote: > In broad sweeping terms only.. a lot of time has passed. I've no doubt > the hub has a huge amount more power and features compared to the > duet/receiver. > > > -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- That looks right to me. Another Logitech acquisition (2004, for USD

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-19 Thread drmatt
In broad sweeping terms only.. a lot of time has passed. I've no doubt the hub has a huge amount more power and features compared to the duet/receiver. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music:

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-19 Thread cathcam
Anyone else notice the similarity between the Duet+controller and the Harmony Pro and the Home Hub... https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-pro?crid=60 I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a player or LMS? ---

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-19 Thread cathcam
Ikabob wrote: > I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market > place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have > alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices > compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-19 Thread Julf
cathcam wrote: > For the most part, all cloud services are the same. Pull you in, lock up > your data, charge to access it, add services to maintain it. Absolutely. Unfortunately most people don't seem to mind these days. > How many companies do you know that offer the right to leave and take

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-19 Thread cathcam
Julf wrote: > The whole SONOS business idea is based on tying you into a closed > system. For the most part, all cloud services are the same. Pull you in, lock up your data, charge to access it, add services to maintain it. How many companies do you know that offer the right to leave and take

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-19 Thread cathcam
mherger wrote: > > > IMHO the LMS based product is becoming more and more of a niche product. > > Who does still curate his own music collection? We do, yes. But who > else? The mass market future is in the cloud, like it or not. As you > said: easy to use. And connected. > > -- > >

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread philippe_44
Julf wrote: > The whole SONOS business idea is based on tying you into a closed > system. It's not ´fully' closed due to it's upnp support. What is really proprietary is their sync system. There is a last improvement I'm thinking of adding that's to manage the Sonos grouping / ungrouping

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread Julf
Ikabob wrote: > what if SONOS made their devices compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I > would be very inclined to buy SONOS products to add to my SB ecosystem. > It might be a profitable venture for SONOS. The whole SONOS business idea is based on tying you into a closed system. "To try to

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread garym
andifor wrote: > Mix-up? Sonos and Sonore are not the same company. Only the first 4 > letters are the same. These last few posts are talking about SONOS, not Sonore. Many (all?) Sonore products already work with LMS, as they include Squeezelite. *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 >

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread andifor
Ikabob wrote: > I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market > place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have > alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices > compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread garym
castalla wrote: > Just use upnpbridge plugin and Sonos speakers become SB players. good point. Still not sure why I'd spend $300+ for a Sonos speaker to use with LMS, when cheaper/better options are available. *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.4) > LMS 7.9.1 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread castalla
garym wrote: > Their underlying technology is completely different. Why buy SONOS > products to use with other SBs. Just add one of the many inexpensive Pi > microcomputer players to emulate a Squeezebox player. Just use upnpbridge plugin and Sonos speakers become SB players. Touch,

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread garym
Ikabob wrote: > I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market > place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have > alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices > compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-17 Thread Ikabob
I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy SONOS products to add

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-12 Thread iPhone
jerrym303 wrote: > My Modwright Transporter has been in a box for six years after moving. > I was thinking it would be hopelessly out of date, but still looks like > it will be useful. I liked the sound. No need to buy a new digital > source for my ripped CD collection when I get the system

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-12 Thread jerrym303
My Modwright Transporter has been in a box for six years after moving. I was thinking it would be hopelessly out of date, but still looks like it will be useful. I liked the sound. No need to buy a new digital source for my ripped CD collection when I get the system fired back up. I tink that

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-08 Thread sitro0
English first En Français en suivant Hello I do not know if logitech is going to do a squeezebox ressurection but if they want they must first look at what did not work in their financial plans. For me it is essentially the complexity of the product. I remember few years ago when I bought my

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-06 Thread Julf
andifor wrote: > => The difference is subtle, but I can hear it. And please don't ask me > to explain, *why* it sounds different. I have no clue of the technical > details :o) Thanks for the description! How many tests did you do, and how many of those did you get right? And how did you

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-06 Thread andifor
Julf wrote: > If it is just a subjective opinion, and we treat it as such, then yes. > Some of us might still want to understand the circumstances that lead to > it. Easy: - connect the mR (microRendu) on one input of my DAC - connect the Receiver on another input of my DAC - sync the two

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread Julf
drmatt wrote: > Like all individual's opinions, we are really not interested how they > were decided upon. When he wants to write a scientific paper about it > then he'll have to show his working... If it is just a subjective opinion, and we treat it as such, then yes. Some of us might still

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread drmatt
Like all individual's opinions, we are really not interested how they were decided upon. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread Julf
andifor wrote: > Yes, I have. Good. How did you do it? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread andifor
Julf wrote: > Have you ensured levels are matched? Yes, I have. andifor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107821

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread andifor
Squeezemenicely wrote: > Nope, sorry you got it wrong. The Receiver and the Transporter were/are > complete devices including the DAC. Therefore they can sound different, > since all is done in the device and the audio is output to your > amplifyer. You're right, the DAC is important as well. I

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread adamslim
The SB devices that I still use are the Booms and Radios; the screens on them makes them great devices for bedroom and kitchen. But they are only ever going to be of interest to people who already have LMS. For real music listening I can't see what hardware could be made to please everyone. I'm

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread Julf
andifor wrote: > Well, you are invited to check for differences between a Receiver and a > microRendu. I have them both available and can connect them my DAC. - I > don't say, which device sound better (I just say, there is a > difference). Where ever this difference comes from. Have you

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread andifor
Squeezemenicely wrote: > With the Sonore and Pi (without a DAC installed) you only have a > computer that runs the software, the "sound" is then dealt by with a DAC > that you connect to the USB port. It - if nothing is broken - has > nothing to do with the quality or "sound" of the audio, that

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread drmatt
Pi has analogue audio output, as do most DAC hats, so yeah they can "sound". -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums..

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-03 Thread Squeezemenicely
andifor wrote: > Talking about sound: If the Receiver sounds different than the > Transporter, a Sonore device might sound different than a Pi. > > Nope, sorry you got it wrong. The Receiver and the Transporter were/are complete devices including the DAC. Therefore they can sound different,

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-02 Thread andifor
drmatt wrote: > Years of experience tells us that people will pay lots and lots of money > for a nice case... > Talking about sound: If the Receiver sounds different than the Transporter, a Sonore device might sound different than a Pi. Talking about cases: I prefer the Receivers case to the

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-02 Thread drmatt
Years of experience tells us that people will pay lots and lots of money for a nice case... -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-02 Thread bpa
Squeezemenicely wrote: > Wow, just seen the prices on sonore - pretty steep for a "Pi in > disguise" ... Well, no idea what they are really using as hardware, but > running Squeezelite etc. > > What is the point of buying such a device? Just get a Pi with a DAC or > connect to the DAC of your

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-02 Thread Squeezemenicely
Wow, just seen the prices on sonore - pretty steep for a "Pi in disguise" ... Well, no idea what they are really using as hardware, but running Squeezelite etc. What is the point of buying such a device? Just get a Pi with a DAC or connect to the DAC of your dreams. It is all the same, except

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-02 Thread andifor
Antoniop wrote: > I recently bought a new (!) squeeze radio on amazon market place and > would buy a touch or a transporter if I could. I didn't found similar > products on the market that could work as nicely with LMS. Fortunately > all my squeezebox devices are still working! > Those who

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-09-01 Thread FredFredrickson
I realize I started the latest beat-the-dead-horse topic, but I really think with new sections of walmart and bestbuy dedicated to bluetooth speakers, that connected, syncable speakers are absolutely the next big thing. Even Sonos might be a little ahead of the market right now. Chromecast

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-26 Thread slartibartfast
nolan wrote: > How strong do you think Sonos are though? I can't see much of a future > for them unless they get acquired by Amazon or Apple. I know they are in > a lot of the big name stores but they have laid staff off and failed to > follow through with the voice control they announced. I can

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-26 Thread drmatt
The march of cheap, convenient, mediocrity will always win in the long term. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums..

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-26 Thread nolan
How strong do you think Sonos are though? I can't see much of a future for them unless they get acquired by Amazon or Apple. I know they are in a lot of the big name stores but they have laid staff off and failed to follow through with the voice control they announced. I can see they being a good

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-25 Thread d6jg
jfo wrote: > I suspect that Logitech has continued to support this project to protect > their intellectual property while taking a "wait and see" approach to > the possible options that might unfold which could allow them to extract > some value from their investment. It is certainly not because

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-24 Thread jfo
I suspect that Logitech has continued to support this project to protect their intellectual property while taking a "wait and see" approach to the possible options that might unfold which could allow them to extract some value from their investment. It is certainly not because they are nice guy's

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-24 Thread emalvick
I really just hope that the people that are truly keeping this going (those here) are thinking ahead to a time when the domains and support are completely gone. I feel that they are (I'm not on this forum enough to know). I am impressed with how the loss of Spotify was quickly remedied by

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-18 Thread Fizbin
garym wrote: > Excellent point. Every day I'm surprised when I click on this forum to > see what's up and it actually works versus a "page does not exist" > message. It's actually quite amazing that this forum still exists. It > will be sad to see it go (when it does). Well they renewed the

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-18 Thread garym
alfista wrote: > So even if Logitech, to put it bluntly, failed, they did so in a fairly > nice way. Excellent point. Every day I'm surprised when I click on this forum to see what's up and it actually works versus a "page does not exist" message. It's actually quite amazing that this forum

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-18 Thread alfista
cliveb wrote: > Logitech were, and always would have been, the wrong company to buy Slim > Devices. Their core businesses were just miles apart. Perhaps, but I think most other companies would have struggled to keep the product line going, and most other companies would have wasted no time

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-18 Thread Mnyb
drmatt wrote: > Hah, works for me :) > > > -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- .. with wifi i forgot that :D Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-18 Thread cliveb
toby10 wrote: > For SlimDevices it was the perfect time to sell. Taking into account > Logitech’s business model it was the wrong time for Logitech to buy. Logitech were, and always would have been, the wrong company to buy Slim Devices. Their core businesses were just miles apart. The

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread toby10
The story goes much deeper than we’ll ever know. I'm sure Michael Herger knows all the dirt but is unable say so publicly. ;) What little we do know……. Soon after Logitech acquired SlimDevices there was a major reshuffling of managers and department personnel at Logitech. The few individuals

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread drmatt
Mnyb wrote: > > Anyhow some stubborn fellow wants to sync 24/192 pcm over 5 players :D > and comes to our forum. Hah, works for me :) -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread Mnyb
drmatt wrote: > Sonos also made the executive decision to cripple their digital outputs, > for reasons no one can fathom; nor do they seem interested in sorting it > out. > > > -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- Probably due to old tech . more than 16/44.1 does not really do anything

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread emalvick
One of the most attractive aspects of Squeezebox is the ability to use it (server and hardware) with high definition music, if one wants to. I have an optical connection to my stereo and have really loved the ability to listen to my surround sound music. There are things I wouldn't mind being

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread alfista
drmatt wrote: > Sonos also made the executive decision to cripple their digital outputs, > for reasons no one can fathom; nor do they seem interested in sorting it > out. And that must have cost them about five sales or something? I honestly don't think the majority of potential Sonos buyers

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread drmatt
Sonos also made the executive decision to cripple their digital outputs, for reasons no one can fathom; nor do they seem interested in sorting it out. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music:

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread alfista
d6jg wrote: > My point was that Sonos had started to become accepted in the consumer > electronics field just as Logitech pulled out. Yes. Only a different subset of the consumers than the Squeezeboxes caters to. The fact that there was enough buyers to support Sonos doesn't suggest that there

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread d6jg
cliveb wrote: > Sonos was around long before Logitech bought Slim Devices. The two > product lines were always at opposite ends of the market. Drawing an > analogy with HiFi, Sonos appealed to the sort of person who would buy an > integrated B system, whereas the Squeezebox system appealed to

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread cliveb
d6jg wrote: > What is crystal clear though is that they killed the product line at > exactly the wrong time just as other high products such as Sonos etc > were being launched. Sonos was around long before Logitech bought Slim Devices. The two product lines were always at opposite ends of the

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread Mnyb
Roon bussines model is not viable for squeezebox either . Software = open source LMS = no revenue . Squeezebox = DIY our own rpi3 = no revenue . Enhanced interlinked metadata so that you can build a roon like UX = licensed and costly (se all the trouble our comunity had with the lyrics plugin

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread alfista
d6jg wrote: > What is crystal clear though is that they killed the product line at > exactly the wrong time just as other high products such as Sonos etc > were being launched. Is it? Sonos had already gained good traction by the time Logitech shut down production, but I don't see the relevance.

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-17 Thread Mnyb
mherger wrote: > > Even if this is a niche . For example ROON is trying to get piece of > the > > pie by selling software . With a kind of licensing model for,hardware > > they have no hardware of their own . > > I thought this would come up. But then that software is Roon's business. > >

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread Michael Herger
Even if this is a niche . For example ROON is trying to get piece of the pie by selling software . With a kind of licensing model for,hardware they have no hardware of their own . I thought this would come up. But then that software is Roon's business. They're small and obviously happy to

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread Mnyb
Even if this is a niche . For example ROON is trying to get piece of the pie by selling software . With a kind of licensing model for,hardware they have no hardware of their own . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread dasmueller
As many have said it ain't happening. Still, I offer my thanks to Logitech in general and to Michael specifically for maintaining these forums and LMS. As others have said the plug and play w no system/software maintenance is where most are today. Me, I still prefer the "old School" collecting,

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread Antoniop
d6jg wrote: > All this doesn't quite explain how you can still buy a brand new > Transporter SE on eBay and that new stocks of same keep appearing. Are > Logitech still manufacturing but only Transporters? Not only transporters are appearing. I missed a UE radio sale on amazon.fr some months

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread iPhone
. This topic will always be discussed until one of two things happen, Squeezeboxen start showing up at Best Buy or Logitech goes out of business! Are either of those two things going to happen anytime soon, I don't think so, so the topic will live on. Logitech should be commended daily for their

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread drmatt
Those are "new, old stock" transporters. There is no manufacturing for a decade or so. LMS was always too hard for people, Sonos fixed that and appeals to the Apple buying industrial design generation to boot, despite being broadly mediocre for various reasons. Logitech had a ground breaking

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread d6jg
toby10 wrote: > Exactly. Those and numerous other reasons are why it is a dead product. > *WE* all love them and *WE* get/use the SB advantages. But the mass > market could care less, and for very understandable reasons. In a world > of streaming compressed music on a mobile device listened

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread toby10
Antoniop wrote: > Well, I am not sure. I don't know much these products, but SONOS is sold > everywhere and Bose have also a similar (?) product line. > Anyway, people say they're very easy to use, which is not the case with > LMS. > LMS is too complicated for old people and also for most of

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread Michael Herger
I think Logitech could, and maybe should, launch another product line as squeezeboxes devices, but I don't think they will, unless they change their marketing strategy, which is to sell small devices, easy to use, not too expensive, for the young. Like... the UE Boom family of products?...

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-16 Thread Antoniop
toby10 wrote: > > It's dead as a viable consumer product offering. Well, I am not sure. I don't know much these products, but SONOS is sold everywhere and Bose have also a similar (?) product line. Anyway, people say they're very easy to use, which is not the case with LMS. LMS is too

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-09 Thread edwin2006
I can live with the current status quo as far as Logitech gives Michael enough room to do his thing. *SqueezeBoxes:* 2x SB2 (Living room and study), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-09 Thread toby10
FredFredrickson wrote: > Who thinks Logitech should resurrect the brand and start > selling squeezeboxen again? This has been discussed in here for years, over and over. It will never happen. It will never be resurrected, nor sold, nor licensed to a third party, etc.. It's dead

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-08 Thread alfista
Short answer: Nah, at least not a Squeezebox brand based on the architecture we know and (mostly) love. Don't get me wrong, I think the Squeezebox ecosystem is genuinely amazing. There seems to be no limit to the adaptability and extensibility, constantly made to run on new platforms with new

Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-08 Thread drmatt
Actually I suspect you'll find a lot of people on the forum are quite happy with the status quo. The Pi/DAC/open source LMS solution is very compelling. Any reignite of Logitech official Interest could well see them grabbing that back in-house. At the very least it would likely be based around

[slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox

2017-08-08 Thread FredFredrickson
I think Logitech got a little ahead of itself buying slim devices while the technology was still in the early-adapter phase, but since Logitech canned the brand, I've seen Sonos everywhere, as well as a number of competitors that have displays at Target, Best Buy, and even Walmart over the years.