slartibartfast wrote:
> When I was still using my Receiver I lost count of the number of times I
> had reset both the Controller and Receiver and start again. I was never
> sure what to do when the Receiver stopped playing but factory reset
> always worked.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using
Redrum wrote:
> I am wondering if all 3 players offline are receivers? I say that
> because, in my experience, that is exactly what happens (often) with my
> receivers on wifi with a network exception. They "lock up" (white light,
> controller still sees them but non responsive). I would reset
FredFredrickson wrote:
>
>
> But, after that reboot, 3 players are now offline.
>
> The bridged extenders came back online, no problem. The duets themselves
> don't even show they're offline, their icon stayed white.
>
> But no matter what I did, I couldn't get them to reconnect to the
So new update for anybody following or anybody who might have a
suggestion:
The wifi extenders used in bridge mode (not extending) connected to the
radios / receivers seems to have mostly solved the problem. I've gone
almost 3 weeks without disconnects. To say that's a difference is an
FredFredrickson wrote:
> My router (Netgear R6900v2) is able to switch channel without dropping
> current connections- at least for most devices. When I do it, the touch
> doesn't get a new lease as far as the DHCP server is concerned. But when
> I try to use the touch to access "My Music" it
P Nelson wrote:
> That is the latest official firmware and the one I am also using,
> The only thing I can think of that might be a reason is if a router
> changes IP addresses when it changes wifi channels. I reserve IP
> addresses for each SB devices in the router's DHCP settings.
My router
FredFredrickson wrote:
> Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
> Player Type: fab4
> Firmware: 7.8.0-r16754
> Wireless Signal Strength: 100%
That is the latest official firmware and the one I am also using,
The only thing I can think of that might be a reason is if a router
changes IP addresses when
P Nelson wrote:
> I have switched the channel on my router and I have not had to reboot
> the Touch or SB Radios to maintain connectivity. What firmware are you
> running on the Touch?
>
> Paul
Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
Player Type: fab4
Firmware: 7.8.0-r16754
Wireless Signal Strength:
FredFredrickson wrote:
> Yes, I use Wifi Analyzer to determine what's going on. So far, it's not
> "noise" that determines failure state for my players. It's literally
> just the channel change. I've now reproduced this behavior. I can switch
> from channel 1 to 3 which are both empty, and the
Redrum wrote:
> but, your wireless bridges solve your problem, right? So, you could keep
> the receivers and touch on your wireless bridges, but try wlanpoke for
> your radio. This is assuming you need your radio to be portable and on
> wifi (move it around or use it on battery).
>
> At the
FredFredrickson wrote:
> I'm told this only works on radio? I have multiple SB Receivers and a
> touch that are also falling offline.
but, your wireless bridges solve your problem, right? So, you could keep
the receivers and touch on your wireless bridges, but try wlanpoke for
your radio. This
Ah - yes - wlanpoke is for Squeezebox Radio
Paul Webster
author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see
Paul Webster wrote:
> wlanpoke may well resolve that automatically for you - if you don't want
> to leave your router fixed to a specific channel.
I'm told this only works on radio? I have multiple SB Receivers and a
touch that are also falling offline.
1 Touch
5 Receivers
3 Controllers
2
FredFredrickson wrote:
> I've now reproduced this behavior. I can switch from channel 1 to 3
> which are both empty, and the touch falls off and requires a reboot.
>
wlanpoke may well resolve that automatically for you - if you don't want
to leave your router fixed to a specific channel.
Redrum wrote:
> Interesting. So, maybe it could not just be "what channel", but the
> event of the channel change itself (your touch dropped off on the
> change).
>
> I am wondering if you have looked at what the network congestion looks
> like near your players? I use an android app called
FredFredrickson wrote:
> I had a Fascinating Observation last night. I had manually set my 2.4
> ghz wifi channel to 11 last weekend but I noticed it was noisy so I set
> it back to Auto and the wifi router found a better channel.
The problem with "auto" it becomes a game amongst competing
FredFredrickson wrote:
> I had a Fascinating Observation last night. I had manually set my 2.4
> ghz wifi channel to 11 last weekend but I noticed it was noisy so I set
> it back to Auto and the wifi router found a better channel.
>
> Immediately the SB Touch fell offline, while the others
I had a Fascinating Observation last night. I had manually set my 2.4
ghz wifi channel to 11 last weekend but I noticed it was noisy so I set
it back to Auto and the wifi router found a better channel.
Immediately the SB Touch fell offline, while the others that have wifi
bridges have stayed
Okay so this might be a little too early to tell but initial results are
quite good.
I put in 2 of the 3 wifi bridges that I intend to put in. The 2 that
have them have stayed online since Saturday when I put them in (about 44
hours as of writing this).
The 1 that I didn't replace went offline
Okay so I ordered 3x TP-Link AC750 WiFi Extender, and a 50' ethernet
cable and i'm going to wire 1, use bridge mode on extenders to wire 3,
and will report back how they operate.
They're coming tomorrow!
1 Touch
5 Receivers
3 Controllers
2 Radios
Making streaming music in my home a full time
FredFredrickson wrote:
> The units are on different circuits so I think that rules out that
> option. Also, do you need a 1-to-1 on those? If I want to hook up 4
> devices would i need to occupy 8 outlets?You would need 5 not 8 but if the
> units are on different phases they
wouldn't help.
RobbH wrote:
> Someone suggested HomePlug, aka powerline networking. Have you
> considered that? Depending on the wiring in your house, it might be an
> option.
The units are on different circuits so I think that rules out that
option. Also, do you need a 1-to-1 on those? If I want to hook up
FredFredrickson wrote:
> Wired is more of a challenge as this old home just doesn't have the
> flexibility for it.
Someone suggested HomePlug, aka powerline networking. Have you
considered that? Depending on the wiring in your house, it might be an
option.
LMS 8 nightly running on
FredFredrickson wrote:
> .I think i'm going to try getting a handful of these and connect to the
> ethernet ports: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093WZ15FR/
>
> Unless anybody has a better recommendation on brand?
I have no experience with them but some people are using vonets for the
Redrum wrote:
> what did the touch do that was one step better?
Don't know - never looked at differences between the two. I suppose
compromises were made to enable running on battery with a reasonable
duration - but it may be something as simple as antenna
design/placement (and no speaker).
markiii wrote:
> all depends on your access. I also hardwire if i can
The wifi coverage is great. I have fire tv sticks in almost the same
place as each receiver, and they get perfect signal.
Wired is more of a challenge as this old home just doesn't have the
flexibility for it.
1 Touch
5
Redrum wrote:
>
> with all of the discussion with sb radio wireless issues, what did the
> touch do that was one step better? They seem to be more...stable. It
> seems like there is allot of very recent radio issues. I'm fairly rural,
> so I don't see it.
>
> Jim
Which is a shame as the
bpa wrote:
> Strong signal does not necessarily mean a good quality signal.
> I think there is a lot more "noise" at the edges of channels due to new
> tech/faster standards and so old chips find it hard to decode their data
> stream even from a strong signal.
right, which is why I used
all depends on your access. I also hardwire if i can
PiCorePlayer 7.1 on Allo Digi One Signaturewith (Lounge)
PiCorePlayer 8.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry Dig+
(Office)
PiCorePlayer 8.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry
DAC+(Kitchen)
Radio (Bedroom)
PiCorePlayer 8.1
bpa wrote:
> At night, lots of thing happen. Power save modes means lower tx/rx
> power, greater interference from neighbours etc., DHCP IP lease
> expire/renew etc.
>
>
>
> Certainly old chips were designed in the expectation of how radio
> bandwidth was being used and that has changed
Redrum wrote:
> I (and others) had receiver wifi problems even with a seemly strong
> signal.
Strong signal does not necessarily mean a good quality signal.
I think there is a lot more "noise" at the edges of channels due to new
tech/faster standards and so old chips find it hard to decode
FredFredrickson wrote:
> I don't want to speak too soon but usually the receivers drop off
> overnight and since my wired test started, it's still going strong.
At night, lots of thing happen. Power save modes means lower tx/rx
power, greater interference from neighbours etc., DHCP IP lease
FredFredrickson wrote:
> .
> I don't want to speak too soon but usually the receivers drop off
> overnight and since my wired test started, it's still going strong. .
I (and others) had receiver wifi problems even with a seemly strong
signal. It also seemed (to me) that the receiver would just
bpa wrote:
> Channel 3 is not a good channel to use as it overlaps with channel
> 1,2,4,5 & 6 and this is just with 20MHz - with bonding at 40MHz and it
> is even worse. So other networks on neigbouring channels can interfere
> with your network and reduce quality of signal - a strong signal
FredFredrickson wrote:
>
>
> The touch is the only one that doesn't disconnect for me.
>
> Both the receivers and radio require rebooting almost daily. The
> touch is weekly
At first I thought it was very telling (wifi as @w3w and @bpa suggest)
that the radio and receivers are the
FredFredrickson wrote:
> My 2.4 ghz wifi is on channel 3 and I can confirm with wifi analyzer
> there's nothing else on the channel. I can also confirm I've used other
> channels and other WiFi routers. This issue has been constant for years
> and I've mostly just ignored it.
Channel 3 is not a
w3wilkes wrote:
> Sounds like a classic wifi issue. Have you checked to see if you have
> competing neighbors on the same channel that you're using for your
> 2.4Ghz band? I explicitly set my channel rather than have the router use
> the auto setting, I do think the receivers have issues
Sounds like a classic wifi issue. Have you checked to see if you have
competing neighbors on the same channel that you're using for your
2.4Ghz band? I explicitly set my channel rather than have the router use
the auto setting, I do think the receivers have issues following the
router if the
If you're willing, you might try disabling some of the "WIFI 6" features
of your router. There are threads here discussing specifics.
Or, switch to HomePlug.
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So I've been around on and off since 2008 and I've always loved my
squeezeboxen as a main staple of my daily life, but over the past years
they've started playing second fiddle to the Amazon Echos in the house
because the echo has better WAF and it requires much less fiddling.
But of course,
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