GNUstep distro

2013-05-08 Thread Liam Proven
to produce a Window Maker- and GNUstep-based Ubuntu remix, at all? I am collating the tools but I am not very experienced in this area... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-09 Thread Liam Proven
On 9 May 2013 08:27, Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it wrote: Hi, On 05/08/13 17:32, Liam Proven wrote: This may be a silly question - forgive me if so. Is there a current GNUstep-based distribution, at all? An official, up-to-date, GNUstep only distro doesn't exist. I thought

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-09 Thread Liam Proven
I just noticed that I inadvertently replied offlist - sorry... On 8 May 2013 18:41, Sebastian Reitenbach sebas...@l00-bugdead-prods.de wrote: On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 17:32 CEST, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: This may be a silly question - forgive me if so. Is there a current

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-09 Thread Liam Proven
On 8 May 2013 21:36, Sebastian Reitenbach sebas...@l00-bugdead-prods.de wrote: On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 22:11 CEST, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 May 2013 18:41, Sebastian Reitenbach sebas...@l00-bugdead-prods.de wrote: On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 17:32 CEST, Liam Proven lpro

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-09 Thread Liam Proven
On 8 May 2013 21:53, Dan Hitt dan.h...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: . Is there a current GNUstep-based distribution, at all? ... many interesting and valid points omitted The closest seems to be the Étoilé project

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-09 Thread Liam Proven
and will spin up a SUSE VM to give it a try. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-10 Thread Liam Proven
On 8 May 2013 21:36, Sebastian Reitenbach sebas...@l00-bugdead-prods.de wrote: On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 22:11 CEST, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 May 2013 18:41, Sebastian Reitenbach sebas...@l00-bugdead-prods.de wrote: On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 17:32 CEST, Liam Proven lpro

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-10 Thread Liam Proven
odd that, in a desktop with a Dock included, you made all the app launchers desktop icons - that's one of the things the Dock is for, isn't it? :¬) -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-10 Thread Liam Proven
On 10 May 2013 07:05, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi, Am 08.05.2013 um 17:32 schrieb Liam Proven: This may be a silly question - forgive me if so. Is there a current GNUstep-based distribution, at all? There is also the QuantumSTEP project. It is sort of a twin

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-10 Thread Liam Proven
On 10 May 2013 14:19, Ivan Vučica ivuc...@gmail.com wrote: On 10. 5. 2013., at 14:14, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: I also installed Firefox -- guessing the package name -- to copy paste your login script, as I did not want to retype the whole thing. There are no VirtualBox guest

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-10 Thread Liam Proven
. In my OpenBSD install, following his instructions, I had the problems I describe. That is *all* I was talking about. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn

Re: GNUstep distro

2013-05-10 Thread Liam Proven
On 10 May 2013 17:40, Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it wrote: Hi Liam, On 05/10/13 14:20, Liam Proven wrote: The VM runs rather nicely under VMware, but unfortunately, I can't `sudo` (don't know the root password) and so I can't install the VMware guest additions, meaning that I

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-04-10

2013-05-30 Thread Liam Proven
to...? Was there a root message on another list or something? If there is a repository of Debian/*buntu packages out there, I would really like to know. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com

Re: Quasado (developer of StageStack, a FreeHand replacement) considering opensource

2013-06-07 Thread Liam Proven
not attract much support. It might be easier to put a new, GNUstep-based front end onto the Inkscape code than either write a new program or attempt to finish a very incomplete, formerly-proprietary one. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G

Re: ALT as a click modifier

2013-07-25 Thread Liam Proven
what I use on my PC under Linux and Windows, as well. I just use xmodmap to remap CapsLock as Super, then I can use Unity and Windows 8. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com

Re: ALT as a click modifier

2013-07-25 Thread Liam Proven
major Linux desktops. It is a massive pain. Alt is for menu access and formatting. Ctrl is for commands on PCs. Macs make things awkward by having Cmd as well as Ctrl but also using Ctrl for Unix stuff. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk

Darling

2013-08-01 Thread Liam Proven
-- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 ___ Discuss

Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...

2013-08-09 Thread Liam Proven
/362923361266974721 -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884

Missing applications

2013-08-14 Thread Liam Proven
of the GNUstep desktop? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884

Re: GNUstep's default theme...

2013-09-14 Thread Liam Proven
On 14 September 2013 14:30, James Carthew jcart...@gmail.com wrote: I've looked at Etoile Has there ever been a public release, demo, beta or anything of Etoilé? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook

Re: GNUstep's default theme...

2013-09-14 Thread Liam Proven
4½ years old? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884

Re: draft of a new Open Source Commercial License

2013-09-18 Thread Liam Proven
body is alive, you are dead. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884

Re: draft of a new Open Source Commercial License

2013-09-18 Thread Liam Proven
approval at one of my companies for that, at the start of development of a new product. Sadly, we are still on version 1.0 at the moment - 1.0.55 right now, I think, but we've not got to 1.1 yet. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G

Re: draft of a new Open Source Commercial License

2013-09-18 Thread Liam Proven
. It is a bad plan. As the launch announcement for OSv said today: These days, credibility == open source Not open source? Not credible. You're not Free. This will mean lots of potential parties will not be interested, no matter how cool the product. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http

Re: draft of a new Open Source Commercial License

2013-09-19 Thread Liam Proven
complex. Non-commercial use - free, commercial use - pay. Things have to be simple. I agree. Also, something simple and clear like this is *FAR* preferable to trying to introduce a new licence. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G

Re: draft of a new Open Source Commercial License

2013-09-19 Thread Liam Proven
. This. I agree with all the rest of the message too, but this is for me the key point. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685

Re: Themes (again)

2013-09-27 Thread Liam Proven
of restrained greys and blacks is one of the most distinctive, smart, elegantly restrained looks in the entire world of GUIs on any and all computers. I think we'd be mad to throw it away. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter

Re: Themes (again)

2013-09-27 Thread Liam Proven
, attract new users I think it would (if I understand you correctly). and I have no doubt that you will soon have plenty of new themes. Oh dear. Let's hope not. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN

Re: Themes (again)

2013-09-27 Thread Liam Proven
, and I never kept any of them for long.) -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884

Re: Themes (again)

2013-09-27 Thread Liam Proven
. It is a particularly silly visual effect which will, I suspect, mean that the site is inaccessible to people using screenreaders and some low-end browsers. Is this any better? http://heronsperch.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/gnustep-mythbusting.html?view=classic -- Liam Proven • Profile: http

Re: Themes (again)

2013-09-27 Thread Liam Proven
work and I never got my sound card working. Ubuntu took 90min. In my fairly extensive experience, this can be regarded as typical. If anyone would like to help me try to assemble a GNUstep-based Ubuntu Precise remix, I would welcome it. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com

Re: Themes (again)

2013-09-27 Thread Liam Proven
. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 ___ Discuss

Re: Themes (again)

2013-09-27 Thread Liam Proven
On 27 September 2013 19:47, Xavier Brochard xav...@alternatif.org wrote: On 2013-09-27 17:48:22 +0200 Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 September 2013 16:21, Xavier Brochard xav...@alternatif.org wrote: I mean like others do : release a set of tarball files and a few instructions

Re: distribution and packaging (Was: Re: Themes (again))

2013-09-28 Thread Liam Proven
it working, so I have something to show people... :-) -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884

Re: Themes (again)

2013-10-04 Thread Liam Proven
not just me. OK, silly question. Window Maker one, really, not GNUstep. Whenever I have tried the themes in the past -- and not liked any of them -- I could not find how to turn them off again. In other words, to go back. Is this possible? Can you go back? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-09-27

2013-10-04 Thread Liam Proven
there are packages already available. You can't install Philippe's packages on the HURD - they are Debian packages. You say that you do not use C so I would not even suggest trying to build from source. Pick a modern, working, supported Unix and use that. Not the HURD. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http

Re: Retreive installed gnustep version

2013-11-07 Thread Liam Proven
) they are just excdingly old. They do not track releases, minor releases, nothing. Has anyone tried pointing the Debian package managers at Philippe's packages, or a fresher source? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-09-27

2013-11-29 Thread Liam Proven
On 29 November 2013 23:46, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: I'm currently building a clean Raring (13.04) Server VM to try again. Aieee! I built a 32-bit VM and there are only 64-bit packages for Raring! _ I really should have checked first. I'll have to start over a 3rd time. :-( I'm

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-09-27

2013-11-29 Thread Liam Proven
On 30 November 2013 00:08, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: Aieee! I built a 32-bit VM and there are only 64-bit packages for Raring! _ I really should have checked first. I'll have to start over a 3rd time. :-( I'm not going to bother with Quantal - as far as I know, it is now out

Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-09-27

2013-11-30 Thread Liam Proven
and $LATEST-LTS. For example, I would suggest that you drop Quantal and Raring and only offer Precise and Saucy now. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo

Re: elementary OS

2014-02-10 Thread Liam Proven
exist. Nobody will code for a platform which cannot be tried or even seen, and GS is completely below the radar, and nobody involved even seems to notice that this is a problem. -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook

Re: elementary OS

2014-02-10 Thread Liam Proven
evaluates and judges and compares OSes, desktops and Linux packages for a living. When I say GNUstep is badly lacking, a useful response is not well go fix it then, it is, oh dear, tell us more, what needs fixing? -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk

Re: elementary OS

2014-02-11 Thread Liam Proven
. That is what a Linux desktop *is*! And if you want users and developers, you have to get out there and play with the others, or you will die. -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro

Re: Emacs and GNUstep

2014-03-13 Thread Liam Proven
by the excellent ErgoEmacs, but I find Aquamacs to be by far the most usable Emacs that exists. http://aquamacs.org/about.shtml http://ergoemacs.org/ -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com

Re: What would be the most complete GNUStep system?

2014-10-26 Thread Liam Proven
more attention. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR

Re: What would be the most complete GNUStep system?

2014-10-27 Thread Liam Proven
to get it to ready-for-prime-time. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR

Re: What would be the most complete GNUStep system?

2014-10-27 Thread Liam Proven
a GNUstep-branded Google Search page as the homepage, it would bring in a little revenue for the GNUstep project, as well. :¬) -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM

Ubuntu packages

2014-11-02 Thread Liam Proven
I see that Ivan Vučica has made some Ubuntu packages of the core system, but Philippe, are you still building your Ubuntu/Debian GNUstep packages as well? I see no updates for a long time -- about a year ago. :¬( -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro

Re: Ubuntu packages

2014-11-04 Thread Liam Proven
. I am sorry to hear that, and I for one am definitely interested! I would suggest that you only support the latest LTS release, though, to cut the workload a little. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook

Re: Debian and Ubuntu packages - 2015/06/03

2015-06-16 Thread Liam Proven
and I will be using them! -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR

Re: NeXT GNU Homage Project Work

2015-11-16 Thread Liam Proven
Ubuntu remix if we're going to attract any serious interest to the product, but it seems to me that the community don't really use it as a desktop and aren't interested in that role for it. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Tw

Re: NeXT GNU Homage Project Work

2015-11-17 Thread Liam Proven
y never seen anything but Windows before, it is not a viable option. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) •

Re: NeXT GNU Homage Project Work

2015-11-17 Thread Liam Proven
Linux versus any BSD. All the BSDs together have orders of magnitude fewer users than Linux, and most of those on servers. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yah

Re: NeXT GNU Homage Project Work

2015-11-17 Thread Liam Proven
. That's all. I strongly dispute the "easy or easier to maintain" part, but otherwise, sure, yes, that is great stuff and a good thing. But GNUstep needs to provide binaries for the industry-leading distro(s). Actually, it needed them a decade ago, but better late than never. -- Liam Pr

Re: Plans for ahead

2015-11-30 Thread Liam Proven
Debian/Ubuntu or even Linux at all, more users and more developers would be good for the project. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven C

Re: Plans for ahead

2015-11-30 Thread Liam Proven
* (On classic hardware) Full-screen windows can be in different graphics modes to one another; dragging a window down reveals a different-resolution display. * (In modern versions) A dock-like app launcher, typically along the screen bottom. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.co

Re: NeXT GNU Homage Project Work

2015-11-23 Thread Liam Proven
n you may have learned enough to offer useful insight. Not before. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (U

Re: Questions (was: Re: A Critique: Getting Started with GNUstep on Windows)

2016-02-29 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 February 2016 at 19:42, Doc O'Leary <drole...@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > Liam Proven <lpro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 26 February 2016 at 01:02, Svetlana A. Tkachenko >> <svetl...@members.fsf.org&g

Re: Questions (was: Re: A Critique: Getting Started with GNUstep on Windows)

2016-02-27 Thread Liam Proven
y OS. That -- that's /insane/. I mean, who would ever do that? Notepad++ is a decent editor but nothing special. If you really wanted and you are deeply opposed to proprietary OSes, you could run it under WINE, I guess. But installing and trying to use an unfinished research OS for one Windows ap

Re: piStep Development Project

2016-03-25 Thread Liam Proven
u don't seem to really grasp how open-source development works. You need to learn to fit in with how things are done or all your publicity and energy will be futile and a waste of effort. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Fli

Re: Questions

2016-03-01 Thread Liam Proven
don't use VMware, though -- only VirtualBox. So, sadly, useless to me and anyone who strongly prefers FOSS tools. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo

Re: Questions

2016-03-01 Thread Liam Proven
at I was unable to remember the name, and thanks for supplying it. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +

Re: Questions

2016-03-05 Thread Liam Proven
to be trying to upset me with personal vitriolic attacks. He is failing, but list members of a more sensitive disposition should be warned, and I felt that the list moderators should know about this. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Tw

Re: Questions

2016-03-01 Thread Liam Proven
is > *very* poor. Interesting. I had read this, but tried both ordinary and Hackintosh editions and could not get it to install. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Sky

Re: FOSDEM

2017-01-31 Thread Liam Proven
eers! > > -Steven I might be and would be delighted to meet any listmembers. :-) -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 •

Re: mulle-objc #MakeObjCGreatAgain

2016-12-02 Thread Liam Proven
install GNUstep and my application, > would this be guaranteed to be working? You really should not hijack someone else's thread. Start a new one with its own subject line. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmai

Debian

2017-03-26 Thread Liam Proven
I have never previously noticed this page: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGNUstep I just tried it. It worked. But it's GWorkspace 0.8.8 from 06/2010. IOW Debian is still including an ancient version of GNUstep. Are there newer Debian packages anywhere? -- Liam Proven • Profile: https

Re: GNUstep Live on OSnews

2017-07-31 Thread Liam Proven
s using GNUstep, or cross-platform apps. As it is, the project is very obscure and most people I talk to in the FOSS community have never heard of it. Those who have think it is long dead. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmai

Re: GNUstep Live on OSnews

2017-07-31 Thread Liam Proven
hing to show people, and the obvious candidate, ISTM, is to show working code. And the way to show working code is to show an installable distro that you can use for your whole computing life, with a whole set of apps. And, just like macOS, as an _optional install_ for the 1% of users who also

GNUstep Live on OSnews

2017-07-28 Thread Liam Proven
http://www.osnews.com/story/29939/GNUSTEP_live_CD_2_5_released Also, there's a new release of GNUstep Live! :-) -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo

Re: Boiling the Oceans [was Re: GNUstep Live on OSnews]

2017-07-31 Thread Liam Proven
Ustep style menus & icon and so on instead. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 • ČR/WhatsAp

Re: GNUstep Live on OSnews

2017-07-31 Thread Liam Proven
On 31 July 2017 at 21:20, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mott...@libero.it> wrote: > Hi Liam, > > > you actually sum up several of GNUstep's goal, but at the same time, the > issues to show it of.. Er, good? :-) > On 31/07/2017 15:56, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> The

Re: Boiling the Oceans [was Re: GNUstep Live on OSnews]

2017-08-02 Thread Liam Proven
vascript, so it's very limited on the modern web. However isn't WebKit FOSS and specifically designed for macOS? https://webkit.org/ -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn

Re: Boiling the Oceans [was Re: GNUstep Live on OSnews]

2017-08-02 Thread Liam Proven
ed and disregarded for good reasons. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 • ČR/WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal

Re: [INFO] NEXTSPACE

2017-11-26 Thread Liam Proven
w. It is part of what makes it distinctive. However, a more conventional & widely-available menu-accelerator key would be a good thing. Either the PC-style Alt for menus, Ctrl for actions (e.g. Alt-F for File, Ctrl-O for open) or a Mac-style Super key (Super-O = open, Super-X = cut, etc.) -

Re: [INFO] NEXTSPACE

2017-11-25 Thread Liam Proven
tro, such as OpenSUSE? -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 • ČR/WhatsApp/Telegram/Sig

Re: [INFO] NEXTSPACE

2017-11-29 Thread Liam Proven
indow and getting the menu of a /different app/ would be wildly confusing, IMHO. It seems like a disastrous idea to me. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AI

Re: [INFO] NEXTSPACE

2017-11-29 Thread Liam Proven
itely understand the problem. I'll do all my best to find a > solution. Well, good. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44

Re: GNUMail app and gmail

2017-12-03 Thread Liam Proven
you may need to tick the box that allows "less secure clients". (Amusingly, this includes collection from a different Gmail account over POP3!) Check with a different client to ensure it's not a server-side problem. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@c

Fwd: FOSDEM 2018 - Distributions Devroom Call for Participation

2017-11-04 Thread Liam Proven
Will any GNUstep people be at FOSdem? Prime material for a presentation, I think... -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939

Re: SimpleAgenda on FreeBSD

2018-06-26 Thread Liam Proven
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 10:23, wrote: > > i want to be removed from this mailig list with all adresses of the domain > txt.de. Can you help, please? [1] Don't hijack someone else's thread. That is bad manners. [2] Read the signature of any email you get from the list. -- Liam Proven

Re: SimpleAgenda on FreeBSD

2018-06-26 Thread Liam Proven
: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamp

Re: FOSDEM

2018-02-06 Thread Liam Proven
ge to meet Ivan very briefly. I headed to the café but I couldn't find any recognisable group. But a face to a name is still a good thing. Thanks for saying hello! -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/

Re: Installing gnustep from version control sources

2018-04-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 April 2018 at 15:19, Mick Bert <micber...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello > I would like to install gnustep on an old Apple iBook with Lubuntu > 14.04 PowerPC 16.04 also exists for PowerPC. I think you will have more luck with the newer release. -- Liam Proven • Profile: h

Re: Bugs in gui/back

2018-04-24 Thread Liam Proven
window manager is Clutter, but this is inexact as it is not running X.11 but Wayland and there is no traditional WM. If you are running a beta of 18.04, the forthcoming LTS version, then again, it's GNOME 3 and Clutter under Wayland. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lp

Re: Bugs in gui/back

2018-04-25 Thread Liam Proven
Mac OS X and Android). These changes will also distance it considerably from more traditional FOSS Unix OSes such as the BSDs (e.g. FreeBSD). However many of them are controversial and widely disliked. It does mean stuff is changing quite fast at present. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.m

Re: Bugs in gui/back

2018-04-25 Thread Liam Proven
oad 16.04-04 from here: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop You can make a bootable USB key on Windows, Mac or another Linux box. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/Lin

Re: Bugs in gui/back

2018-04-25 Thread Liam Proven
-- there are some skilled folk there. Then follow the GNUstep build instructions. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 • ČR (+ W

Re: Cacao Linux - GNUstep based Linux distribution

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven
d changing it * it's fairly closely tied to CentOS and not intended to be distro-portable? Saying that, I think you have done a much better job of explaining on your Github page what you're working on and why. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mai

Re: Cacao Linux - GNUstep based Linux distribution

2018-10-19 Thread Liam Proven
kickstarter.com/projects/203272607/the-cacoa-linux-project-a-gnustep-based-distro Oh cool! I have plugged this on Twitter, FB, G+, Reddit and a few other places. Good luck with it. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gm

Re: Cacao Linux - GNUstep based Linux distribution

2018-10-21 Thread Liam Proven
reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9p9g0l/interesting_in_a_different_desktop/e838pxk/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsA

Re: Cacao Linux - GNUstep based Linux distribution

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven
n? Why a slow-moving server distro without a fixed clear update cycle? > I hope so. And Gregory's kickstarter page quite confusing for that matter. It is, yes, I agree. But remember the FOSS mantra: "release early, release often". Better to get it out there than spend ages polishing it. Fa

Re: Cacao Linux - GNUstep based Linux distribution

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven
g I can do to help in terms of writing words (not code)? I would be delighted to assist with text for the web. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +4

Re: Cacao Linux - GNUstep based Linux distribution

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven
orking desktop. It may be. They never released a working ISO, as far as I know, and for a lot of people, myself included, if the instructions start with "get the source here" then we just stop. > My intention more pragmatic: make comfort, fast and useful desktop > environment even in

Fwd: FOSDEM 2019 - Distributions Devroom Call for Participation

2018-11-06 Thread Liam Proven
, if a few people would like to assist me in scripting it... -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram

Most famous ever NeXTstep app resurrected in emulation

2019-02-19 Thread Liam Proven
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/19/cern_browser_reawakened/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp

Re: Package building

2019-11-19 Thread Liam Proven
se a GNUstep-based distro, ideally, it would be based on Ubuntu, or failing that, Debian/Devuan, and failing that, openSUSE, as those are the distros with the packaging tools, driver/codec/etc support and so on that I find the best. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Re: Package building

2019-11-19 Thread Liam Proven
o look at it yet. I welcome pointers or hints! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Package building

2019-11-19 Thread Liam Proven
probably never going to bother. That's too much work for me, and I suspect this is true for 90% or more of Linux users. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: GNUstep Discord Server

2019-11-19 Thread Liam Proven
eir T carefully before deciding to accept them. Interesting. Just gave them a quick look. Bearing in mind that it's a gaming service, they looked fair enough. What were your objections? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lp

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