On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Derrick Peavy derr...@derrickpeavy.com wrote:
Finally, if I narrow this down, I would refine my question as follows:
How do you explain to someone who writes PHP ( in this example) why their
code (which I can read), is krap. They don't want to take my word
As is usual, what is missing from this conversation is ... money.
Geeks get emotionally attached to their technologies. The like this, they
love that. This is cool. To some it borders on religion - Open source
or death!.
But what is important is the money. Business owners, non-profits,
I agree that from the business point of view the most important figure
is the lowest cost of ownership. Also, that a most cases good CF
programmer can build an app cheaper then a comparable app in PHP even
when considering the higher initial cost of CF server and the slightly
higher wages of
I completely agree. If you want to make the sale you have to educate the
client. Most owners (of real companies) can quickly see the advantage - if
you are credible. Most mid level managers - they want to take the path of
least resistance.
Most owners of cash strapped little businesses
I know this is kind of long and winding, but I'd love some feedback.
Starting a project.
And, as I've discussed my coding abilities with people I meet they are
continuously giving me looks of bewildering and beguiling amusement.
Not talking about any Dick and Jane. I'm talking
My opinion answers :
How do you explain to someone the basic core ideas behind CF and PHP. PHP is
an Apache module. CF runs on a java servlet or on Jrun, Tomcat, etc. I'm
honestly not the best to explain it. But I've seen the performance side,
and it's good. And I've seen the code bloat in PHP
Why not code it in PHP? I've done some PHP, it's
pretty slick, free and popular. It will give you the chance to learn
something new and make yourself more marketable. I work with CF
mostly, but won't hesitate to take a job doing something else. There
are a limited number of CF jobs
You should learn and understand other languages like PHP. Polygot
programming will make you a better programmer overall. That being said,
there are plenty of CF jobs from what I'm seeing and in fact the typical
CF positions are higher paying from the PHP side, because there are
fewer of us.
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Derrick Peavy derr...@derrickpeavy.com wrote:
I know this is kind of long and winding, but I'd love some feedback.
I've seen a ton of folks go through this on various mailing lists.
Here's my take...
PHP is not a bad language, CF is not a bad language.
Thank you all for the responses. And to John Mason and Ajas Mohammed
for clarifying some technical issues in a way that I can translate to
others.
Want to add a couple of things.
First, I may eventually pick up some php. But not so much for this
project.
Second, the project is a start
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