Re: [DNG] GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > Another one: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785956 > > It really makes me wonder why any distribution still even ships Gnome, much > less has it as the default. My best guess after watching many organisations' behaviour: Most of the

Re: [DNG] Runit crisis: was GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 07:30:03PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 21:32:13 +0200 > Adam Borowski wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 02:52:18PM -0400, zap wrote: > > > removing runit-init and most other init options? > > > > runit-init got dropped not

[DNG] Nvidia Drivers

2017-08-11 Thread Ed Fletcher
Hi All: I'm trying to install nvidia-drivers in order to use version 375.82. I can see it in jessie-backports non-free. It has various dependencies so I've added main and contrib. Where I'm stuck is here: nvidia-vdpau-driver : Depends: libvdpau1 (>= 0.9) but 0.8-3+deb8u2 is to be

Re: [DNG] Runit crisis: was GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 21:32:13 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 02:52:18PM -0400, zap wrote: > > removing runit-init and most other init options? > > runit-init got dropped not because of malice -- or rather, very much > because of malice but on the side

Re: [DNG] Caching leads to unresponsiveness

2017-08-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Joachim. Joachim Fahrner - 11.08.17, 17:43: > Linux uses all available more for caching of filesystems. When copying > large files to slow network filesystems (nfs, smb, sshfs, davfs) it > takes a long time until such allocated memory becomes free. When these > network filesystems saturate

Re: [DNG] GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread zap
> Nope, this is unrelated. And they had no souls even late in Gnome2 days, > before systemd was even a glimmer in Lennart's eye. > That is very surprising, and here I thought they once had a conscience... Although gnome 3 and systemd are very lets call it: "unnecessary" I say that only because

Re: [DNG] GNOME usability "improvements" (OT)

2017-08-11 Thread Ron
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 19:35:55 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > And they had no souls even late in Gnome2 days, > before systemd was even a glimmer in Lennart's eye. which probably made it easier for the Evil One to take them under his thrall... Cheers, Ron. -- To

Re: [DNG] GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:01:16PM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:24:31 +0200 > Adam Borowski wrote: > > > It really makes me wonder why any distribution still even ships Gnome, much > > less has it as the default. > > Could it be because Gnome have

Re: [DNG] GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread Ron
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:24:31 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > It really makes me wonder why any distribution still even ships Gnome, much > less has it as the default. Could it be because Gnome have sold their immortal souls to Systemd ? Cheers, Ron. -- The optimist

[DNG] GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread Adam Borowski
Another one: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785956 It really makes me wonder why any distribution still even ships Gnome, much less has it as the default. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ James Damore is a hero. Even mild criticism of bigots these days ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ comes at great personal risk.

Re: [DNG] Caching leads to unresponsiveness

2017-08-11 Thread Patrick Meade
On 08/11/2017 10:43 AM, Joachim Fahrner wrote: Linux uses all available more for caching of filesystems. When copying large files to slow network filesystems (nfs, smb, sshfs, davfs) it takes a long time until such allocated memory becomes free. When these network filesystems saturate memory

Re: [DNG] Caching leads to unresponsiveness

2017-08-11 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-08-11 17:43, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: Linux uses all available more Should be "memory", not "more" ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Caching leads to unresponsiveness

2017-08-11 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Linux uses all available more for caching of filesystems. When copying large files to slow network filesystems (nfs, smb, sshfs, davfs) it takes a long time until such allocated memory becomes free. When these network filesystems saturate memory linux becomes very unresponsive. It can take

Re: [DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-11 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 11/08/17 a les 07:43, Didier Kryn ha escrit: > Le 10/08/2017 à 16:22, Jamey Fletcher a écrit : >>> Le 09/08/2017 à 22:46, Joel Roth a écrit : >>> Despite what the author claims, this series of pages isn't about >>> init. It is mostly about supervision and a little about containers. It >>>

Re: [DNG] Technical overview of init systems

2017-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 07:43:42 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > I thing you're taking me wrong. I don't claim I know the matter > better that the author. He studied all these supervisors in some > detail; I didn't. I just say he failed to explain things in an > educative way - and