from:"aitor

Please, try the same process using:

http://mirrors.gnuinos.org
http://mirrors.gnuinos.org/?dir=DEVUAN-BASED%20IMAGES

It is based on devuan, but the installers are different. Devuan installs
all the *.deb packages in the target; while gnuinos mounts the
filesystem.squashfs on it. Before compiling the content of the chroot
jail with the final porpuse of getting the squashfs file, i always
remove /etc/fstab from the jail. If i don't remove it, the personal home
folder of the user doesn't be created (i don't know the reason why). I
always do (/,/home/,sawp) manual partition with no issues. It would be
interesting to compare both results.

Thanks,

Aitor.

On 17/08/15 20:48, hal vmli...@charter.net wrote:

I've booted the Alpha2 iso but it doesn't seem to be able to find any partitions. From the partition menu (LVM
Guided or Manual) I select Manual but then get a dialog stating No root file system
defined. The installer seems to be jumping ahead from partitioning to installing without allowing me to setup partitions.

I have a 4G raw partition as /dev/sdb1 (formatted with ext4 and set 'active') which I
intend to use for / and then use LVM for /usr, /var, /home and /tmp. I have
Ubuntu installed on some of the LVM partitions and thought if Devuan is not working for
me, I can still boot back into the Ubuntu install so I don't want to re-partition the
entire disk as it would hose my current desktop setup.

Any way to manually kick off the install from the CLI ?

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[DNG] Issue 56 ??

2015-08-16 Thread aitor_czr

I haven't received any email belonging to Dng Digest,Vol11,Issue 56...
They jumped from 55 to 57.
Any incidence?

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Re: [DNG] Devuan 64 install: no root filesystem?

Please, try the same process using:

http://mirrors.gnuinos.org
http://mirrors.gnuinos.org/?dir=DEVUAN-BASED%20IMAGES

Thanks,

Aitor.

On 17/08/15 20:48, hal vmli...@charter.net wrote:

Any way to manually kick off the install from the CLI ?
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[DNG] Bug in debian-installer


Debian-installer creates in /etc/fstab lines like:

/dev/sr0/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/sdb1   /media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto  0   0

depending on the used method (cd-rom or usb-stick). Those files are 
superfluous. The following postinstallation script removes them:


ARCHIVO=/etc/fstab
if grep ^/dev/sd ${ARCHIVO} | grep /media/ | grep auto
then
LINEA1=`grep ^/dev/sd ${ARCHIVO} | grep /media/ | grep auto`
LINEA2=## ${LINEA1}
rpl -q ${LINEA1} ${LINEA2} ${ARCHIVO}
fi
if grep ^/dev/sr ${ARCHIVO} | grep /media/cdrom
then
LINEA3=`grep ^/dev/ ${ARCHIVO} | grep /media/cdrom`
LINEA4=## ${LINEA3}
rpl -q ${LINEA3} ${LINEA4} ${ARCHIVO}
fi

Aitor.


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[DNG] Problem with debhelper

2015-08-22 Thread aitor_czr

Recently i debianized the latest release of bulmages (acounting and 
invoicing program) in Qt5:


http://gnuinos.org/release16/?dir=devuan/pool/main/b/bulmages

And i had the following issue: the resulting packages were all empty! 
This was due to the fact that the latest release is located in 
/usr/local, so i had to comment with some lines in the dh_usrlocal 
script, written in perl by Joey Hess. For example:


## doit(rmdir $tmp/usr/local);

Is there any way avoid that? Is this a bug in dh?

Thanks in advance.

Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Problem with debhelper

2015-08-22 Thread aitor_czr


Thaks, i will try it.

Aitor.

On 22/08/15 16:58, Rainer Weikusat rainerweiku...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Use it as intended? In case you want to create a package installing
something in /usr/local (eg, because it's a local package not intended
for standalone distribution), the dh_usrlocal step can be skipped:

binary:
dh binary --before dh_usrlocal
dh binary --after dh_usrlocal



aitor_czraitor_...@gnuinos.org  writes:


Recently i debianized the latest release of bulmages (acounting and
invoicing program) in Qt5:

http://gnuinos.org/release16/?dir=devuan/pool/main/b/bulmages

And i had the following issue: the resulting packages were all empty!
This was due to the fact that the latest release is located in
/usr/local, so i had to comment with some lines in the dh_usrlocal
script, written in perl by Joey Hess. For example:

## doit(rmdir $tmp/usr/local);

Is there any way avoid that? Is this a bug in dh?


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[DNG] Bug in live-installer

2015-08-23 Thread aitor_czr


Hi all,

Installing live-images, the process becames unstable depending (i 
suppose) on the size of the filesystem.squashfs file. The following hack 
solves this issue:


https://gitlab.com/aitor_czr/live-installer/commit/cf89c8d49196cc92d183640bd1697599bdcaed99

I'm not the author of the hack. The author of the hack is Philip 
Newborough, aka Corenominal (CrunchBang). Honestly, i didn't analyze the 
code.


But it works.

Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-08-21 Thread aitor_czr


We must resort to Sherlock Holmes.

On 21/08/15 07:47, Ismael L. Donis Garcia sli...@citricos.co.cu wrote:

The directoryhttp://packages.devuan.org/merged/pool/  is empty

Regards

| ISMAEL |


- Original Message -
From: aitor_czr
To:dng@lists.dyne.org  
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:00 AM

Subject: Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan


Did you try with debmirror? An example:

debmirror --host=packages.devuan.org \
  --root=merged \
  --dist=jessie \
  --section=main \
  --arch=amd64 \
  --progress \
  --method=http \
  --nosource \
  --ignore-release-gpg \
  --ignore-missing-release \
  /home/user/devuan

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims


Hi Edward,

I've never used Lazarus, origin in the missing Kylix C/C++ for 
GNU/Linux, at the same time origin in Borland C/C++and Delphi Pascal for 
MS Windows. I usually use QtCreator, and sometimes Anjuta. So, i can't 
help you.


Anyway, i think thatfor your purpose the relevance is not in the 
frontend, but rather in the backend. This is written in C, and you can 
always use a shell script via:


system(here_put_the_shell_script);

Perhaps it will be usefull for you...

Regards,

Aitor.

On 18/08/15 14:00, Edward Bartoloedb...@gmail.com  wrote:


If anyone from Devuan knows of a Lazarus function that I can use to
capture the output of an external program running with root
privileges, it will be much of an impulse for my coding exercise.


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Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-08-19 Thread aitor_czr


Did you try with debmirror? An example:

debmirror --host=packages.devuan.org \
  --root=merged \
  --dist=jessie \
  --section=main \
  --arch=amd64 \
  --progress \
  --method=http \
  --nosource \
  --ignore-release-gpg \
  --ignore-missing-release \
  /home/user/devuan

Aitor.

On 19/08/15 04:19, k...@aspodata.se  wrote:

Wyatt:

Is there an up to date list of current mirrors,

Don't know.


and instructions on how to become a mirror anywhere?
There's a forum post about it, but the links lead to empty pages on the git 
wiki.

Mirroring debian was/is easy, in the old time you used the perl script
mirror, and later on, rsync via the shell script anonftpsync.

Mirroing devuan seems to be more complex, if you look below
Continuous Integration for Devuan at:

  https://devuan.org/

there is a program amprolla that handles the mix offtp.*.debian.org  
and the devuan packages. You can find amprolla here:


  https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla

from the README.md:

  amprolla is a rude script that generates rewrite rules for nginx that then 
try to merge
  the Devuan repository files ( like InRelease, Packages, Sources and so on ) 
with
  other external repositories ( namely, the Debian one ) in order to provide a 
full
  repository where Devuan packages have precedence over other repos.

  This allows Devuan to have a fully meta distro where missing Devuan packages
  come from Debian and/or other repositories
  (like, for example, the deb-multimedia.org from Marillat) without the need
  to create a fully merged repository.

  It works by downloading and merging files to create the dists/ directory
  structure for Devuan and then creating a pool of HTTP 302 redirects to
  the external repositories hosts for packages download.

So setting up a devuan mirror involves amprolla (python), ngix, and I
assume apache. You can not just copy the files and point boa the the
directory.

I suggest you clone the amprolla repo and study the files there, and
look at packages.devuan.org with a ftp client to see the file structure:

$ lftp packages.devuan.org
lftp packages.devuan.org:~ ls
drwxr-xr-x2 004096 Jun 02 09:29 alpha-iso-cd
drwxr-sr-x5 107  112  4096 Jun 16 00:15 devuan
drwxr-xr-x2 004096 Mar 18 18:56 merged
lftp packages.devuan.org:/ ls merged/
lftp packages.devuan.org:/ ls devuan/
drwxr-sr-x   12 107  112  4096 Mar 03 13:52 dists
drwxr-sr-x2 107  112  4096 Jul 12 03:46 indices
drwxr-sr-x3 107  112  4096 Dec 05  2014 pool
lftp packages.devuan.org:/ ls alpha-iso-cd/
-rw-r--r--1 1004 0 276 Jun 02 09:29 README.txt
-rw-r--r--1 1004 028311552 Jun 01 13:04 
devuan-jessie-netboot-i386-alpha2.iso
-rw-r--r--1 1004 0  72 Jun 02 09:22 
devuan-jessie-netboot-i386-alpha2.iso.md5sum
-rw-r--r--1 1004 0  80 Jun 02 09:22 
devuan-jessie-netboot-i386-alpha2.iso.sha1sum
$

Mirroring packages.devuan.org through ftp seems easy enough, but one
would probably need help setting up amprolla.

///

On a related note, how do I get a local mirror of devuan (a local
mirror is good to have when you are usually in bad connected places
or you are doing lots of installations/testing) ?

Mirroringftp://packages.devuan.org/devuan/  and having a sources.conf
like:

debfile:/Net/debian  jessie main non-free contrib
debfile:/Net/ftp/packages.devuan.org/devuan/  stable main

doesn't seem to work. What am I missing ?

Regards,
/Karl Hammar


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[DNG] A place in the hell

2015-08-19 Thread aitor_czr


I did it again. Yes, i did it again!

Nobody reads posts containig disgest in the subject, but yesterday i did 
it again.


I hope there will be a very special place in the hell reserved for me.

Heaven is so bore... :-)

Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread aitor_czr


I still have not tested Xfce in Devuan, i will do it as soon as possible.

Aitor.

On 24/08/15 10:11, Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:

If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate'
buttons? I have pm-utils installed and I am using Devuan 64 bit.

On 24/08/2015, igulederd...@dimakrasner.com  wrote:

apt-get update;apt-get -y upgrade

I've spent many nights debugging power/session management issues in Xfce on
Devuan - all confirmed disabled button issues are fixed.




Let me know if the problem persists.


 On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:26:16 +0300adamdmlt;ada...@trueleet.comgt;
wrote 

I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled...
Am I missing something?

Thanks


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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36

2015-08-11 Thread aitor_czr

Are you talking about a minimal installation of Devuan (Standard or 
Server..., or whatever you want to call) containing a postinstallation 
script (style of Crunchbang) which acts like tasksel? It requires 
network connection !

Wicd-daemon? Network-manager depends on systemd.

Aitor.

El 11/08/15 a las 19:36, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org escribió:

Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:52:08 -0700
From: Go Linuxgoli...@yahoo.com
To:dng@lists.dyne.org, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com
Subject: Re: [DNG] Packaging (was  Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in
packages,   possibly Mission Creep)
Message-ID:
1439311928.3137.yahoomailba...@web163401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, 8/11/15, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:

  Subject: Re: [DNG] Packaging (was  Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, 
possibly Mission Creep)
  To:dng@lists.dyne.org
  Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2015, 11:27 AM
  
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:02:28 -0700

Go Linuxgoli...@yahoo.com  wrote:


On Mon, 8/10/15, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:

[snip]


 * base install
 * apt-get install xorg
 * apt-get install xterm (if not installed by xorg)
 * apt-get install Xfce (or whatever)
 * apt-get install lightdm

[snip]


Several years ago, I actually built up xfce (without the meta
package) from a base install.  Then I found refracta which simplified
my life as it was very close to what I wanted.  fsmithred has
promised to build a devuan iso for the likes of me.  But he's not
been seen around here in some time and the refracta forums haven't
had much traffic lately . . . maybe because it's summer.  Once the
beta appears I'm hoping he'll spin into action.  Doing this all from
scratch would be a bit of a challenge for me . . . the years are
beginning to take a toll . . .

Hi golinux,

I've known you for what, a year now? My impression is you're smart and
skilled enough to find it almost trivial to install base, then xorg,
then xterm, then a window manager, then lightdm. I've seen you do a
lot more challenging stuff than that, including making very inciteful
contributions to discussions on infrastructure. My impression of
you is that if you put your mind to it, you could install Arch or
Gentoo, and those really do take some concentration and resolution of
ambiguities. But anyway...

I'll admit I've met people who couldn't follow a five step apt-get
sequence, but you're about a million miles from that.

Well, anyway, you were speaking for those guys who can't follow a 5
step recipe, and that's legitimate.*If*  it's decided that the base
install should be minimal, it would be pretty easy to make a
shellscript to do all X installation in one command. If the base
install included nCurses and Dialog, it could even be a no-argument
script that queried for everything:

* Do you want a Graphical User Interface (GUI) (Y/n)

* Do you want to boot straight to Graphics mode? (y/N)

* If booting straight to Graphics mode, require password? (Y/n)

* Which window mgr? (Xfce/LXDE/Openbox/Whatever/Other)

* If Other, please enter the WM name here 

* Thank you. Press Enter to perform this work, press Ctrl+C to abort:


Of course, the prompts would need to be*much*  more tailored to the
uninitiated user, who for instance, doesn't know what a Graphical User
Interface, a window manager are, or why he would or wouldn't want a
password.

The benefit of doing it this way is it's being performed on an already
installed system that's almost guaranteed to boot just fine.

SteveT


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Re: [DNG] Evince, gimp and okular in devuan

2015-08-13 Thread aitor_czr

I don't know, i'm in devuan jessie :)

El 13/08/15 a las 19:01, Riccardo Boninsegna escribió:

 Il 13/ago/2015 06:55 PM, aitor_czr aitor_...@gnuinos.org
 mailto:aitor_...@gnuinos.org ha scritto:
  libcupsimage2 : Depende: libcups2 (= 1.7.5-11) pero 1.7.5-11+deb8u1
 va a ser instalado

 Does Debian have the same problem? Last time I used my computer about
 a week ago I fully updated Devuan Ascii with no issue, but the version
 numbers suggest that we haven't picked up an update for the main
 package yet... or that a Debian packager messed up!


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[DNG] Evince, gimp and okular in devuan

2015-08-13 Thread aitor_czr

Recently i communicated that okular wasn't possible to be installed in
devuan (i can't remember the architecture). Trying to install evince and
gimp in amd64 (but not in i386!) i'm with the same problem:

Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
libcupsimage2 : Depende: libcups2 (= 1.7.5-11) pero 1.7.5-11+deb8u1 va a
ser instalado

Aitor.
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[DNG] live-build

2015-08-10 Thread aitor_czr


On 31/07/15 08:02, Ozi Traveller wrote:

Hi,

I've very interested to create to use Devuan as a base for my distro.

ISo I'm wonder whether live-build is also coming across from Debian?

Cheers
Ozi

Hi Ozi,

Live-build works fine in Devuan, but you must change the default mirrors 
in bootstrap and chroot config files. For example:


LB_MIRROR_BOOTSTRAP=http://ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/;

instead of http://ftp.debian.org/debian/;, etc...

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 11, Issue 46

2015-08-14 Thread aitor_czr

Hi all,

I'm uploading a live image of gnuinos in amd64 architecture (and shortly
in i386) without desktop environment, taking Devuan Alpha2 as a base
(~390 MB). Network connection and quick installation. Download zone:

http://mirrors.gnuinos.org/?dir=DEVUAN-BASED%20IMAGES

The web site is not updated, but this distribution will be definitely
based on Devuan.

Regards,

Aitor.

El 14/08/15 a las 22:16, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org escribió:
 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:27:49 -0400
 From: Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
 To: dng@lists.dyne.org
 Subject: Re: [DNG] Alpha2 without desktop environment
 Message-ID: 20150814132749.5da7a...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

 On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:01:11 -0400
 Haines Brown hai...@histomat.net wrote:


   Rereading your original post: Do you want to not have a Display
   Manager such as lightdm, kdm, gdm etc, or do you want your computer
   not to have X at all? If the latter, just deinstall X. If the
   former, you need to find your display manager, based on ps axjf.
  
  The aim is to boot to a console prompt, log in as root, install xorg
  and fluxbox. That gives me X and a window manager but no desktop
  environment. 
 What you describe above is *precisely* how I want things to go. Your
 box and my desktop are the same except I use Openbox instead of
 fluxbox. I love startx so much my wife is getting jealous.

  At present I get a log in prompt and can log in as user
  in console, but for some reason root log in not working. I suppose
  that when I provided a password I mistyped. 
 :-) If this were Ubuntu, I'd tell you to do sudo su -

  
   Anyway, luckily for you, you're on Devuan with sysvinit, so I'm
   pretty sure almost any way that you could disable plymouth and
   lightdm would bring you to CLI, from which you could run startx
   which would work with a properly configured ~/.xinitrc.
  
  You describe a complicated scenario. I've never had to go through all
  that because I've always simply done expert install, avoided
  installing a desktop environment, and then in console install xorg and
  fluxbox. Over the years never had a problem.
 Yes, you're right, it's too complicated. I was thinking in Ubuntu-eze,
 where the entire distro is designed to never let you boot to command
 prompt. At least up to Wheezy (I haven't used Jessie), Debian was
 designed to allow booting to CLI via installation, in the manner you
 voiced earlier: Install base, install X, install fluxbox, done. In
 Debian (and therefore I assume Devuan), what I described should only be
 used for troubleshooting purposes.

 SteveT

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[DNG] hostname set to (none)

2015-08-15 Thread aitor_czr

Hi,

I built the minimal chroot jailgenerated by live-build in devuan, and
the hostname is set to none:

$ hostname
(none)

There aren't underscores in the /etc/hostname file, and the /etc/hosts
is also correct.It happened to me the same some other time starting with
sysvinit, but not with systemd.

Any idea? Thankyou in advance.

Aitor.

Note: I installed live-config-sysvinit, etc... and removed systemd.
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Re: [DNG] Alpha2 without desktop environment

2015-08-15 Thread aitor_czr

Hi again,

Grub-install failed in gnuinos server (Alpha2). Apparently libfuse2 and
os-prober are not included in it. I will solve this issue during the day.


Thanks,

Aitor.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:52:56 +0200 aitor_czr wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm uploading a live image of gnuinos in amd64 architecture (and shortly
 in i386) without desktop environment, taking Devuan Alpha2 as a base
 (~390 MB). Network connection and quick installation. Download zone:

 http://mirrors.gnuinos.org/?dir=DEVUAN-BASED%20IMAGES

 The web site is not updated, but this distribution will be definitely
 based on Devuan.

 Regards,

 Aitor.

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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 11, Issue 37

2015-08-12 Thread aitor_czr


Hey Aleskandro, awesome !

It could be a good idea to create a simbolic link to /devuan_version/ 
(named /debian_versio//n)/ in order to avoid any similar case in the 
future, simply adding:


rm -f /etc/debian_version
ln -s /etc/devuan_version /etc/debian_version

to the postinstall script in the debian branch of base-files 
https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/base-files/tree/jessie package.


Aitor.

El 12/08/15 a las 07:52, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org escribió:
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:37:42 +0200 From: Jaromil 
jaro...@dyne.org To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG] [Ruby on 
rails - RVM] Patch for RVM and Devuan Message-ID: 
20150811223742.ga11...@mail.dyne.org Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=utf-8 dear aleskandro, On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, aleskandro wrote:

The patch was merged. Now devuan is supported by rvm in the branch master.

many thanks for your contribution and good luck with your project!

ciao


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[DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

2015-08-24 Thread aitor_czr

Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files 
like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid.


Aitor.

El 24/08/15 a las 17:48, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com escribió:

Then I copied /home/hendrik from my old Debian jessie installation,
put my login information from Debian into /etc/passwd and
/etc/shadow.


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Re: [DNG] Help text file for netman and backend.

2015-10-21 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Edward, i'm using your latest version of netman and i works fine.
I will update the packages.

Thanks,

Aitor.

On 21/10/15 14:00, Edward Bartolo  wrote:

Hi,

The following is a screen shot of netman showing the help window.
http://postimg.org/image/cyumre9pn/


Edward


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Re: [DNG] Help text file for netman and backend.

2015-10-21 Thread aitor_czr


Ok :)

On 21/10/15 18:54, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Hi Aitor,

Please be informed that NETMAN.HELP has to be installed to:
/usr/share/netman/

Thanks for helping in this project.

Edward


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Re: [DNG] hplip package status

2015-10-22 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Sam,

Actually hplip depends only on libsystemd0.
You can uninstall systemd-shim, libpam-systemd and systemd.

Cheers,

Aitor.

On 22/10/15 14:00, Jaromil  wrote:

dear Sam,

we change the deps of policykit-1

https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/policykit-1/blob/master/debian/control

the commit history has too much info
as the autobuild also reports there from
Jenkins, however the modification
needed is very minimal and in this case
was made by an early contributor Dmitri


our general approach is to modify as little
as possible and as close as possible to
the source of the problem. in this case
obviously is not about modifying hplip
but directly policykit which affects many
more packages.

ciao

On October 21, 2015 6:01:29 PM GMT+02:00, Sam Protsenko  
wrote:

>Hi guys,
>
>First of all I want to thank you for developing Devuan, which brings
>back true
>modularity of Debian (the main reason why I'm using it in the first
>place).
>Now to the actual question.
>
>I'm using Debian testing and until recently I was able to avoid having
>systemd
>package in my system. But then I was needed to install "hplip" package
>(software
>for my HP printer), which depends on systemd with next dependency
>chain:
>
>hplip -> policykit-1 -> libpam-systemd -> systemd
>
>I'm wondering if this issue (hplip dependance on systemd) is resolved
>in Devuan,
>and if so -- how exactly?
>
>Thanks!


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Re: [DNG] Help text file for netman and backend.

2015-10-22 Thread aitor_czr

Good idea.

On 22/10/15 14:00, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Please, excuse me for being a nuisance with updates of netman.

I added a new function to both the backend and frontend GUI. This is a
Reset All function which uses brute force to disconnect all network
interfaces in the event of instability. The command used behind the
scenes is 'ifdown wlanx ethx'. Compare it to a Fire Exit.

Edward

On 21/10/2015, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>  wrote:

>Ok:)
>
>On 21/10/15 18:54, Edward Bartolo wrote:

>>Hi Aitor,
>>
>>Please be informed that NETMAN.HELP has to be installed to:
>>/usr/share/netman/
>>
>>Thanks for helping in this project.
>>
>>Edward

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Re: [DNG] Is Jude Nelson OK?

2015-10-28 Thread aitor_czr

I had a look at vdev...

Impresive.

I will try to debianize it.

Aitor.

On 26/10/15 13:00, Jaromil  wrote:

>On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:46 +0100, shraptor wrote:

> >Maybe he is just swamped with work.

>
>He said he follows what's happening and that there are still some
>hiccups to work out. He also wrote that he finds less and less time
>time to work on vdev this academic year.

Of course this is it. a Ph.D. can be very demanding especially in
writing phase and especially if full-time and including a tuition
contract.

Lets allow people involved to find their own pace as Devuan is still
based on voluntary effort and everyone involved feels enough the urge as
well the peer pressure.

The current development phase is aligning for a beta release, there is a
lot of work going on on many levels, not only technical, but less
urgency for vdev anyway, which won't be substituting udev right away.
It is indeed good to have it packaged, so more people can try and
perhaps it will attract more contributors.

So in case of vdev I have no worries, as Jude is well dedicated and
understand the huge importance of what he is doing, with your help of
course, and also vdev is a concrete outcome of his Ph.D. thesis, so
there is an incentive also in that context to carry it on.

In any case, good that we care about each other. After all it's been one
year now we are sitting around this camp, warming canned beans in pans
over the fire and doing our best to re-build a new town :^) and its
coming along.

ciao

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Re: [DNG] Commenting out code of netman and backend


Dear Edward,

On 10/11/15 19:11, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Since you are trying to avoid the use of Lazarus, what is the problem
with having the frontend being written in Lazarus Pascal? The created
executable shouldn't need other libraries as it is statically linked.


No, Edward, i'm not trying to avoid the use of Lazarus (i have nothing 
against Lazarus Pascal :-) ), and really there is no need to migrate the 
code to C.

Is it a necessity having to do with minimal systems running on very
old hardware? In that case it makes sense to use a script together
with the backend.
Your work is good, and i'm sure that it works fine in old hardware. But 
i want to experience with both IDEs: Anjuta and QtCreator.


Cheers,

  Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] netman packages

2015-11-11 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Hendrik,

The latest version is in the following link:

https://git.devuan.org/edbarx/netman/branches

And here the debian branch and pristine-tar (updated):

https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman/branches

I updated also the packages:

http://gnuinos.org/netman/

But only in amd64, because i still can't use pbuilder (cowbuilder fails 
in Devuan) and i haven't any computer in i386 to hand at this moment. 
But you can build them in a very easy way:


$ git clone https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman.git
$ cd netman
$ pristine-tar checkout ../netman_0.1.1~468c97d.orig.tar.bz2
$ git-buildpackage -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area" 
--git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch


Hope this help,

  Aitor.


On 11/11/15 10:08, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:

Is this still the place to get netman packages and source to try them out?
Is there a better place to find source code?

-- hendrik


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Re: [DNG] Packaging vdev


Ok, Jude.

Thanks :)

On 10/11/15 20:43, Jude Nelson wrote:

Hi aitor_czr,

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:25 AM, aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org 
<mailto:aitor_...@gnuinos.org>> wrote:


I uploaded fskit to gitlab:

https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/fskit/tree/gbp-master


That's a very outdated version of fskit.  The latest one (the one 
consistent with vdev) is in github: https://github.com/jcnelson/fskit




I didn't see the dpkg template in 'contrib/debian'. That blindness !!

Now, i see some significant differences between this template and
mine. In my opinion:

1.- '/usr/lib/libfskit.so' and 'usr/lib/libfskit_fuse.so'
dinamical libraries must be included in the respective
*-dev.install files, instead of 'libfskit.install' and
'libfskit-fuse.install'.

2.- libfskit depends on libfskit-fuse and not the other way
around, because libfskit-fuse is the backend (I did it so in Netman).

Isn't it?


It's the other way around:  libfskit-fuse depends on libfskit.  But 
unless you're packaging vdevfs along with vdevd, you don't need 
libfskit at all :)


HTH,
Jude


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Re: [DNG] Packaging vdev


Hi Jude,

I just saw the header:

#include 

in "fuse/fskit_fuse.h". So 'libfskit-fuse' depens on 'libfskit'.

Thanks,

 Aitor.

On 10/11/15 20:43, Jude Nelson wrote:

Hi aitor_czr,

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:25 AM, aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org 
<mailto:aitor_...@gnuinos.org>> wrote:


I uploaded fskit to gitlab:

https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/fskit/tree/gbp-master


That's a very outdated version of fskit.  The latest one (the one 
consistent with vdev) is in github: https://github.com/jcnelson/fskit




I didn't see the dpkg template in 'contrib/debian'. That blindness !!

Now, i see some significant differences between this template and
mine. In my opinion:

1.- '/usr/lib/libfskit.so' and 'usr/lib/libfskit_fuse.so'
dinamical libraries must be included in the respective
*-dev.install files, instead of 'libfskit.install' and
'libfskit-fuse.install'.

2.- libfskit depends on libfskit-fuse and not the other way
around, because libfskit-fuse is the backend (I did it so in Netman).

Isn't it?


It's the other way around:  libfskit-fuse depends on libfskit.  But 
unless you're packaging vdevfs along with vdevd, you don't need 
libfskit at all :)


HTH,
Jude


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Re: [DNG] netman packages

2015-11-11 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Hendrik,

There is one change pending in the packages... Move 'netman.desktop' from:

/usr/share/applications

to the following directory:

/etc/xdg/autostart

Aitor.

On 11/11/15 13:00, aitor_czr wrote:

Sorry, Hendrik, i forgot to checkout the gbp-master brach
(git-buildpackage):

$ git clonehttps://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman.git
$ cd netman
$ pristine-tar checkout ../netman_0.1.1~468c97d.orig.tar.bz2
$ git checkout gbp-master
$ git-buildpackage -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area"
--git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch

Cheers,

   Aitor.

On 11/11/15 12:38, aitor_czr wrote:

>Hi Hendrik,
>
>The latest version is in the following link:
>
>https://git.devuan.org/edbarx/netman/branches
>
>And here the debian branch and pristine-tar (updated):
>
>https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman/branches
>
>I updated also the packages:
>
>http://gnuinos.org/netman/
>
>But only in amd64, because i still can't use pbuilder (cowbuilder
>fails in Devuan) and i haven't any computer in i386 to hand at this
>moment. But you can build them in a very easy way:
>
>$ git clonehttps://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman.git
>$ cd netman
>$ pristine-tar checkout ../netman_0.1.1~468c97d.orig.tar.bz2
>$ git-buildpackage -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area"
>--git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch
>
>Hope this help,
>
>   Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] netman packages

2015-11-11 Thread aitor_czr

Sorry, Hendrik, i forgot to checkout the gbp-master brach 
(git-buildpackage):


$ git clone https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman.git
$ cd netman
$ pristine-tar checkout ../netman_0.1.1~468c97d.orig.tar.bz2
$ git checkout gbp-master
$ git-buildpackage -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area" 
--git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch


Cheers,

 Aitor.

On 11/11/15 12:38, aitor_czr wrote:

Hi Hendrik,

The latest version is in the following link:

https://git.devuan.org/edbarx/netman/branches

And here the debian branch and pristine-tar (updated):

https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman/branches

I updated also the packages:

http://gnuinos.org/netman/

But only in amd64, because i still can't use pbuilder (cowbuilder 
fails in Devuan) and i haven't any computer in i386 to hand at this 
moment. But you can build them in a very easy way:


$ git clone https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman.git
$ cd netman
$ pristine-tar checkout ../netman_0.1.1~468c97d.orig.tar.bz2
$ git-buildpackage -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area" 
--git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch


Hope this help,

  Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Packaging vdev

2015-11-08 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Shraptor,

Yes, i had a look at buildconf.mk...

Anyway, building sources the DESTDIR is /usr/local, but not packaging...

I will try using CMake.

Thanks,

  Aitor.

On 11/08/2015 02:31 PM, shraptor wrote:

Sorry read a little bit fast there, thought you was building vdev but
you are working on fskit


anyway default is /usr/local/lib/*
Defaults can be overridden in buildconf.mk 


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Re: [DNG] Packaging vdev

2015-11-08 Thread aitor_czr


Thanks, Jack, i will have a look at your work.

Have a nice day,

Aitor.

On 11/08/2015 11:57 PM, Jack L. Frost wrote:

You might want to look at my Arch vdev and vdev-related packages:

https://pkg.fleshless.org/vdev-git/tree/PKGBUILD
https://pkg.fleshless.org/libpstat-git/tree/PKGBUILD
https://pkg.fleshless.org/fskit-git/tree/PKGBUILD

They are bash scripts, so you should have no trouble understanding them.
It might save you from figuring everything out on your own.


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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 14, Issue 23

2015-11-08 Thread aitor_czr


It's a good idea !!

I started migrating it to C and gtk3. After that we could migrate it to 
qt5 (don't forget LxQt)


Cheers,

Aitor.

On 11/09/2015 08:32 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

To Whom It May Concern,

I am thinking about commenting out my code to describe how it works
and what it should do. I will do this where I think it is necessary to
clarify the code.

Edward


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Re: [DNG] Commenting out code of netman and backend


Hi Edward,

On 10/11/15 07:09, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Hi Aitor,

What are you migrating to C and gtk3? I assume you are talking about
the frontend as the backend is in already in C.


Yes, of course. I'm talking about the frontend. But i just started... I 
have to study something about free pascall.




Which tools you are using for the migration? Can I help in coding?
However, be informed that I never created a complex GUI using gtkx or
qtx.


I'm using Anjuta in combination with Glade. For Qt5 i will use QtCreator 
and QtDesigner.


Cheers,

Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-13 Thread aitor_czr


I wish we had Daniel Baumann with us :)

Aitor.

On 11/12/2015 11:40 PM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:

I thought I should mention, before the towel is irretrievably lost, that
you'd probably find a welcome in the devuan project.  We tend to
respect developers.  I thnk you'd find a devuan live CD more to your
liking, given current politics.  I'll follow with a recent post
on the devuan mailing list.

I've CC'd the devuan mailing list.  Devuan is on its way to be the new
upstream that is what Debian once was.

--hendrik


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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 14, Issue 39

2015-11-13 Thread aitor_czr

Hi all,

This thread is long... I've been busy these last days, and i need some
time to read it carefully.

There are interesting points of view.

Aitor.

On 11/13/2015 01:00 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:

Mitt Green wrote:

>I mean, that's something normal, neither years in the field
>nor degree won't make you smart and experienced
>(years are not equal to experience) alone, something
>has to be inside your skull.

That echoes something I wrote off-list to the OP.

Having a degree is good because a lot of large employers require it, and many
other employers/HR agencies use it as a filter. Doesn't have to be a computer
related one - mine is in Engineering and it's amazing how many engineering
students don't go into engineering after graduation by choice, it's taken by
many employers as a good grounding for many other jobs.

I do feel that a "good" basic education in "computer science" (whatever it's called) is
good. Having a good understanding of the fundamentals means you can pick up and learn whatever language du
jour/passing fad is. If you only ever learned about data storage, sorting, and so on from the perspective of
a single high level language, then that may make it difficult to grasp other languages (depending on their
nature of course) - the old "if all you have is a hammer, then every problem is a nail" issue. That
doesn't mean you have to be proficient with pliers and screwdrivers - but if you at least know how to
recognise when a hammer isn't the right tool then you are half way to a decent job.

But after that, nothing beats experience.
I was lucky in that apart from when I was leaving school, I've never had to compete to
get any of my jobs. I started as a junior design engineer in a local (large, very large)
engineering firm, left to set up in business with some friends as the local Apple
dealer), found out the hard way that we had "more enthusiasm than business
acumen", started a smaller general computer business with one of them, then one day
I walked into the MDs office of one of our large customers and asked if there was any
chance of a full time job. I was there for 10 years - primarily IT (in a department of 3
1/2 people), but dealing with just about anything that used electricity.
When that business got driven down the plughole by the beancounters who took over, I was
one of the many that "left" - at the time it was very painful, but in hindsight
it was good for me. I went to see the same person (who had been forced out years earlier
and how had fingers in many local businesses) and before I'd even asked, he'd outlined 3
possibilities. He more or less put me where I am now (general IT/Internet/small hosting
company), and I've been here 10 years.
So those two jobs came about because I asked for them, and the person i asked
knew that I could turn my hand to many things. Sadly he died in an airplane
accident some years ago.

But you have to get that experience first. that may mean taking any job you can get at
first. Any junior admin, helldesk, developer, whatever job will get you onto the bottom
rung. Take the opportunity to look around and see what different people do - your first
choice of career may not actually be what you want. There is no such thing as
"IT" - it's a very wide field with many different roles.

Watch people closely. Tend to stay away from the brash loudmouths, watch the
quieter ones who just get one with stuff (and are probably moaning about fixing
the sh*t left by the loudmouths) as they are probably the more professional
ones. Take time to talk to people about what they do, why, what's good and what
isn't.

And when you make a cockup - as you will, more than once - don't just shrug it
off, look at what went wrong, why, and how you can avoid it again. If you have
decent colleagues, then they'll be supportive if you're open about asking for
advice and it will improve your reputation with them. Sadly, you will also find
environments where openly admitted ot having made a mistake will be used
against you - if you find yourself in one of these, then the best advice I can
give is to get out as soon as you can as these are toxic and don't promote
learning or good practice. In that vein, if you are a witness to someone else
making a cockup - don't hold it against them (unless they really were stupid
and don't want to learn from it) - but use the same process - what went wrong
and what can you learn from it.

Lastly - get your daily Dilbert !http://dilbert.com

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Re: [DNG] Problems of Devuan installer (Alpha2) I experinced.

2015-11-16 Thread aitor_czr


Hi,

On 16/11/15 13:00, Hughe janpeng...@riseup.net wrote:

Hi,

I tried to install Duvuan using Devuan installer few times but all the
attempts failed due to partitioning the hard disk, followed by GRUB
installation at the end. So I used Debian installer (7.0 and 8.2) to
create basic Debian system, and then upgraded to Devuan system one by
one.

The system setup was
/dev/sda - bootable USB stick
/dev/sdb - Hard disk

[Partition disks] could not handle manual selection.
When I chose manual, it complained "No root file system."

Partition disks
No root file system
No root file system is defined.
Please correct this from the partitioning menu.


I installed official images of Devuan several times doing a manual 
partition with no issues. How are you partitioning the hard disk? The 
most current partitioning is:


root ->  /ext4
home ->  /homeext4
swap ->  swap


On 'Guided - use the largest continous free space', how dose it know the
free space on the hard disk which is already partitioned?


Devuan/Debian installer has many *.udeb mini-packages, each of one with 
its own mission. Those packages are exclusively for the installer, and 
not for the installed system in the target. I call them "mini-packages" 
because the quality control is less strict comparing to a *.deb package. 
The manager of the partitioning in Devuan-installer is partman.



Guided partition kept the installationg going, but in the final stage of
GRUB boot loader, it failed to detect the Devuan partition.

Below is the error message.

Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard disk

Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda
Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.

This is a fatal error.


It's strange... Are you using a live system? If the filesystem.squashfs 
-mounted in the target- hasn't installed all the grub dependencies, then 
grub-install will fail obviously.



Another inconvenient issue which inherited from Debian installer is, the
installer does not allow to change English keyboard layout from Qwerty
to other one. In my case, I'm a full-time Colemak user. If I didn't have
a qwerty keyboard, it would be difficult to use Devuan installer.

Qwerty layout became defacto standard. But some keyboard makers offer
Dvorak, Colemak layout for customers. This means they care about
minorities. Debian has been ignorant or lazy about this issue.

Debian supports non-Qwerty keyboard layouts though.
# dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
# service keyboard-setup restart

Regards,
Hughe


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[DNG] Getting started with netman-gtk3

2015-11-15 Thread aitor_czr

I started a gui in gtk3 using cmake. I has only a button wich closes the 
window, so it's just started:


https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/netman-gtk3/tree/master/

I will not use Anjuta. I will use a text editor (emacs, geany...) and 
glade separately.


Cheers,

Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] netman packages

2015-11-15 Thread aitor_czr



Hi Frits,

Try this other way:

1) Checkout the gbp-master branch and remove the .git folder,
   because we will use git-import-orig instead of git-import-dsc,
   and git-import-orig doesn't support metadatas.

2) Now go to the parent directory, create a new folder and enter into it.

3) Create an empty git repository and import the sources of netman:

   $ git-import-orig --pristine-tar ../netman

4) Enter the name of the project and the version:

   What will be the source package name? [] netman
   What is the upstream version? [] 0.1.1~468c97d
   []

5) Now build:

   $ git-buildpackage -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area" 
--git-pristine-tar --git-ignore-branch



   Aitor.


On 11/15/2015 08:04 PM, Godefridus Daalmans  wrote:

So it failed because you are not allowed to sign because only Aitor is.


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Re: [DNG] Commenting out code of netman and backend


It will be a good exercise :)

On 11/11/15 06:39, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Hi, Aitor,
In that case and if Anjuta does not pull in most of Gnome, and also if
QtCreator does not require most of KDE, I will be more than happy to
join in. The same experimenting experience is also appealing to me. If
I learn to use gtk3 and qt5, it will be a big addition to my coding
skills.

Edward


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Re: [DNG] Packaging vdev


I uploaded fskit to gitlab:

https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/fskit/tree/gbp-master

I didn't see the dpkg template in 'contrib/debian'. That blindness !!

Now, i see some significant differences between this template and mine. 
In my opinion:


1.- '/usr/lib/libfskit.so' and 'usr/lib/libfskit_fuse.so' dinamical 
libraries must be included in the respective *-dev.install files, 
instead of 'libfskit.install' and 'libfskit-fuse.install'.


2.- libfskit depends on libfskit-fuse and not the other way around, 
because libfskit-fuse is the backend (I did it so in Netman).


Isn't it?

Aitor.

On 11/08/2015 02:38 PM, shraptor <shrap...@bahnhof.se> wrote:

Sorry read a little bit fast there, thought you was building vdev but
you are working on fskit


anyway default is/usr/local/lib/*
Defaults can be overridden in buildconf.mk


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Re: [DNG] packages.devuan.org/merged/pool/ is empty

2015-11-09 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Jasper,

This is the way how Amprolla works. If yout want to access to the 
content of /merged/pool you need to resort to debmirror.


Aitor.

On 08/11/15 14:38, Jasper Noë  wrote:

Hello Devuans, trying to install Devuan I get stuck here:

http://packages.devuan.org/merged/pool/

appears to be empty.

Any help ?

Thanks! ---Jasper---


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Re: [DNG] bootstrap-base error Re: About the experimental live DVD

2015-11-02 Thread aitor_czr

I've managed to build debian-installer. One of the issues arising was 
the too obsolete version of libdebian-installer4-udeb in the 
dependencies of main-menu.udeb (>= 0.101), preventing the instalation of 
some packages. Now, i'm uploading a nonofficial liveCD of Devuan in 
amd64, including Netman and Xfce.

Download zone:

http://gnuinos.org/devuan/

Cheers,

Aitor.

On 10/16/2015 02:00 PM, aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> wrote:

Hi Frits,

- cdebootstrap deb package depends on libdebian-installer4 (>= 0.97)

- main-menu udeb package depends on libdebian-installer4-udeb (>= 0.101)

But the version of both 'libdebian-installer-extra4' and
'libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb' in Devuan's repository is 0.99+deb8u1.
The sources of the package are right, becase debian/changelog says:

libdebian-installer (0.97) unstable; urgency=low

and debian/control:

Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libdebian-installer4 (=
${binary:Version})
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libdebian-installer4-udeb
(= ${binary:Version})

for each package (libdebian-installer-extra4 and
libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb, respectively). However, the versions of
them in the repository (=0.99+deb8u1) don't correspond with the sources
(=0.97).

This fact would be the origin of the issue.

Aitor.

On 14/10/15 21:29, Godefridus Daalmans<fr...@daalmansdata.eu>  wrote:

>>Hi,

>> >
>> >a short update: Now I added the debian-installer component to my
>> >experimental live DVD, and I can try to do an installation, but it
>> >screws up in "installing the base system"
>> >
>> >INFO: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' selected
>> >base-installer: error: exiting on error
>> >base-installer/debootstrap-failed
>> >WARNING **: Configuring 'bootstrap-base' failed with error code 1
>> >WARNING **: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' failed.
>> >
>> >on the installation screen, it complained about the checksum of
>> >debian-installer/Packages.gz and debian-installer/Packages
>> >
>> >This seems to be a recurring error over the years with Debian and
>> >Ubuntu...
>> >
>> >I verified the MD5 checksums and they are all OK, so that's not the
>> >*real*problem.
>> >
>> >Any hints??
>> >
>> >Frits

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Re: [DNG] bootstrap-base error Re: About the experimental live DVD

2015-11-02 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Daniel,

I saw you fixed a bug: in debian i always had to replace the repository 
in 'sources.list.udeb' from 'unstable' to 'stable'...


Thanks for your good job !

Aitor.

On 11/02/2015 08:05 PM, Daniel Reurich wrote:

Hi Aitor,

I'm the maintainer of debian-installer for Devuan.  I'm surprised to 
hear of this only via the mailing list and have not seen an issue 
raised against the package.


I will work on fixing this today.

Regards,
Daniel 


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Re: [DNG] A Devuan install CD

2015-11-07 Thread aitor_czr

What are you referring to exactly? The tutorial of dev1fanboy explains 
how to upgrade from debian whezzy to devuan jessie, and the resulting 
system will depend on the original system.


There aresome livecds of devuan available, neigther of the being hosted 
in the website of devuan, since they are not official images. But i can 
build **exact**replicas** of Devuan in i586, i686-pae and amd64. I would 
be delighted to do so, if people are interested. The images could be 
uploaded to devuan.org with the approval of VUAs, of course.


Cheers,

   Aitor.

On 11/07/2015 11:23 AM, "Scienceof Atomics"  
wrote:

A quick thought.

Would it be possible and/or desirable for the end result of the dev1fanboy
process to be captured as an image and used to create a short Devuan
Install CD (not DVD)?

This probably belongs on the Devuan website, but I've been following this
mailing list because of mutual interest.


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[DNG] Packaging vdev

2015-11-07 Thread aitor_czr


Hi all,

I just started with fskip:

http://gnuinos.org/vdev/

It builds successfully, but after a installation i saw the following 
issue: all the /usr/lib/*.o files are missing !!


Cheers,

   Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and, configuring minimalism

2015-11-04 Thread aitor_czr


+1

I agree 100% with the pencil of Steve Litt :)

Aitor.

On 04/11/15 12:38, Steve Litt  wrote:

Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism.
>
>There are a lot of people talking about minimalism in Devuan

[snip some of the best documentation I've ever seen]

This is spectacular documentation! You should put it on a website
somewhere, because the world needs to see this.

SteveT


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Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and, configuring minimalism

2015-11-04 Thread aitor_czr


Hi cangrejo,

Are you who interviewed the author of AmayaOS in a radio transmitter?

Are available the videos of Alberto Zuin and Jaromil in Barcelona? You 
refer to the event in the website...


Aitor.

On 04/11/15 12:38, cangrejo  wrote:

If I had your permission, I will  post it in spanish with some
screenshots, in my bloghttps://devuanita.wordpress.com  (after trying it
first).


That's a great work!


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[DNG] bootstrap-base error Re: About the experimental live, DVD

2015-10-14 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Frits,

I will do some clarifications about debian-installer:

1.- A wrong name of the distribution in .disks/info may screws up in a 
failure of the installer at the time of mounting /proc in the target. 
But this is not the case.


2.- Although being OK all the Packages.gz, i.e. the indices in /dists/ 
folder of deb and udeb packages located in /pool/ folder, all the udeb 
packages are also included implicitly in the /install/initrd.gz and 
/install/gtk/initrd.gz ram-disk files -they are generated when building 
debian-installer-, and all the md5sums must be the samein both one and 
the other.


3.- As i said in another thread, there is a bug in live-installer.udeb 
package. This bug was hacked by Philip Newboroug -Corenominal-, but i 
think this is not neither the case. Here you are the changes, lines 
63-83 of debian/live-installer.postinst:


https://gitlab.com/aitor_czr/live-installer/blob/master/debian/live-installer.postinst

I have to say that i don't use live-build for building debian-installer. 
I build d-i manually because i use the kernel of the Free Software 
Fundation, so i have to change all the kernel modules in it. Building 
d-i manually gives me more flexibility.


I hopethis will help yousomewhat...

Finally, can you upload your configuration of live-build to some cloud? 
Actually i can't help you because debmirror is failing. I supose that 
Nextime is generating the Packages.gz and the Contents.gz of the 
repository with Amprolla. Therefore let us be patience.


Cheers,

Aitor.

On 14/10/15 14:00, Godefridus Daalmans <fr...@daalmansdata.eu> wrote:

Hi,

a short update: Now I added the debian-installer component to my
experimental live DVD, and I can try to do an installation, but it
screws up in "installing the base system"

INFO: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' selected
base-installer: error: exiting on error
base-installer/debootstrap-failed
WARNING **: Configuring 'bootstrap-base' failed with error code 1
WARNING **: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' failed.

on the installation screen, it complained about the checksum of
debian-installer/Packages.gz and debian-installer/Packages

This seems to be a recurring error over the years with Debian and
Ubuntu...

I verified the MD5 checksums and they are all OK, so that's not the
*real*  problem.

Any hints??

Frits


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Re: [DNG] bootstrap-base error Re: About the experimental, live, DVD

2015-10-19 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Ozi,

This configuration of live-build fails in my computer:

# lb build
[2015-10-19 09:54:22] lb build
P: live-build 4.0.3
P: Building config tree for a debian/jessie/amd64 system
[2015-10-19 09:54:22] lb bootstrap
P: Setting up cleanup function
[2015-10-19 09:54:22] lb bootstrap_cache restore
P: Restoring bootstrap stage from cache...
[2015-10-19 09:54:22] lb bootstrap_cdebootstrap
[2015-10-19 09:54:22] lb bootstrap_debootstrap
P: Begin bootstrapping system...
P: If the following stage fails, the most likely cause of the problem is 
with your mirror configuration or a caching proxy.

P: Running debootstrap (download-only)...
I: Retrieving Release
I: Retrieving Release.gpg
I: Checking Release signature
E: Release signed by unknown key (key id CBF8D6FD518E17E1)
P: Begin unmounting filesystems...
P: Saving caches...
chroot: failed to run command ‘/usr/bin/env’: No such file or directory

Aitor.

On 19/10/15 09:48, Ozi Traveller  wrote:

#!/bin/sh

set -e

DISTRIBUTION="jessie"
ARCHITECTURES="amd64"
LINUX_FLAVOURS="amd64"
ARCHIVE_AREAS="main contrib non-free"
SOURCE="false"
# MIRROR_BINARY="http://packages.devuan.org/merged/;
# MIRROR_BINARY="http://au.mirror.devuan.org/merged/;
MIRROR_BINARY="http://188.165.204.61/repo/dists/jessie/main/;

# --build-with-chroot false \

lb config noauto \
--mode debian \
--distribution "${_DISTRIBUTION}" \
--debian-installer-distribution "${_DISTRIBUTION}" \
--debian-installer live \
--architectures "${_ARCHITECTURES}" \
--linux-flavours "${_LINUX_FLAVOURS}" \
--apt-recommends false \
--apt-secure true \
--apt-indices false \
--apt-source-archives false \
--archive-areas "${_ARCHIVE_AREAS}" \
--parent-mirror-bootstrap "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--parent-mirror-binary "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--mirror-bootstrap "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--mirror-binary "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--iso-application "DIY Linux" \
--iso-publisher "DIY" \
--iso-volume "DIY Live" \
--backports false \
--security false \
 --updates false \
--memtest none \
--win32-loader false \
--debug \
--verbose \
--bootappend-live "boot=live config components file=/preseed.cfg quiet
splash autologin nouveau.modeset=0 radeon.modeset=0" \
"${@}"


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[DNG] devuan base-installer bootstrap-base pkgdetails GETDEPS, with exclude?

2015-10-19 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Frits,

After doing a change in the sources you have to commit the change:

$ git add .
$ git commit --all

and then type:

$ dpkg-source --commit

This will ask you about the name of the patch. Once the patch has been 
crated, you have to commit the new patch:


$ git add .
$ git commit --all

Aitor.

On 19/10/15 13:48, Godefridus Daalmans  wrote:

Yes, the e-mail header may be a bit cryptic. apologies.

Has anyone done a "debootstrap exclude option" on the pkgdetails.c
program in base-installer yet?

Please note, that this is a request for information, not an accusation
:-)

Package: init  Pre-Depends: systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart bites
me again:-(


It's slow going to try to fix things in the live-build installer:-(  but
every few days a bit progress.

I patched live-build version 4.0.3-1.1+devuan1 here:
https://git.devuan.org/fritsd/live-build/commits/live-build-4.0.3-1.1+devuan1

but WATCHOUT I don't understand how to do a quilt and git workflow
together, so you may need to delete the two previous commits.

I still have at least 2 problems to fix.


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Re: [DNG] Alternative for ARM processors

2015-10-07 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Florian, thanks for the link.

Aitor.

On 07/10/15 00:34, Florian Zieboll  wrote:

If there weren't any major changes to the repository in the last few
weeks, you can easily install Devuan on a Raspberry Pi (-> armhf),
using the method I described a while ago in this mail:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150805.163347.dcffacec.en.html

The latest devuan-baseconf package works perfectly fine, I don't know
what went wrong on my first attempt. Probably I hit the wrong version...

Since Raspian went Jessie some days ago, you'll have to make sure that
you have "release=wheezy" in your installer‑config.txt on the SD card.

Florian


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Re: [DNG] bootstrap-base error Re: About the experimental, live, DVD

2015-10-16 Thread aitor_czr

This is the issue:

The version of the sources of libdebian-installer4 is 0.97 and some 
packages in the system (like 'cdebootstrap' and 'main-menu.udeb') are 
depending on it. Despite that, the version of the packages:

libdebian-installer4, libdebian-installer4-dev, 
libdebian-installer-extra4, libdebian-installer4-extra4.udeb, etc...

is 0.99+deb8u1.

Aitor.

On 16/10/15 11:07, aitor_czr wrote:

Hi Frits,

- cdebootstrap deb package depends on libdebian-installer4 (>= 0.97)

- main-menu udeb package depends on libdebian-installer4-udeb (>= 0.101)

But the version of both 'libdebian-installer-extra4' and 
'libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb' in Devuan's repository is 
0.99+deb8u1. The sources of the package are right, becase 
debian/changelog says:

libdebian-installer (0.97) unstable; urgency=low

and debian/control:

Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libdebian-installer4 (= 
${binary:Version})
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libdebian-installer4-udeb 
(= ${binary:Version})

for each package (libdebian-installer-extra4 and 
libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb, respectively). However, the versions 
of them in the repository (=0.99+deb8u1) don't correspond with the 
sources (=0.97).

This fact would be the origin of the issue.

Aitor.

On 14/10/15 21:29, Godefridus Daalmans <fr...@daalmansdata.eu> wrote:

Hi,
>
>a short update: Now I added the debian-installer component to my
>experimental live DVD, and I can try to do an installation, but it
>screws up in "installing the base system"
>
>INFO: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' selected
>base-installer: error: exiting on error
>base-installer/debootstrap-failed
>WARNING **: Configuring 'bootstrap-base' failed with error code 1
>WARNING **: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' failed.
>
>on the installation screen, it complained about the checksum of
>debian-installer/Packages.gz and debian-installer/Packages
>
>This seems to be a recurring error over the years with Debian and
>Ubuntu...
>
>I verified the MD5 checksums and they are all OK, so that's not the
>*real*   problem.
>
>Any hints??
>
>Frits

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Re: [DNG] pressed root pw

2015-10-20 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Mike,

You have to use the md5 hash of the password. You can get it typing:

$ echo "XX" | md5sum
52f400d860b7431525a4c5367684de17  -

Now, add to the preseed.cfg the following line:

d-i password/root-password-crypted password52f400d860b7431525a4c5367684de17

Cheers,

Aitor.

On 20/10/15 13:09, m_maass  wrote:

Dear all,

i want to use in a preseed.cfg file
d-i password/root-password-crypted password XX
but i had no succes.
Please can you tell me how to do this?

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [DNG] The status of the Devuan project, presented at, Opennebula

2015-10-20 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Jaromil,

I live in Spain (Basque Country) at a few kilometers of Barcelona...

That shame not to go!

Have a nice day :)

Aitor.

On 20/10/15 14:00, Jaromil  wrote:

dear Init Freedom lovers,

tomorrow our fellow VUA Alberto Zuin will be presenting Devuan at the
OpenNebula conference 2015 in Barcelona
http://2015.opennebulaconf.com/schedule/12-the-status-of-devuan-project/

I will also join him for the Q session and will be there all day.

anyone reading this mail and attending is welcome to come forward and
have a chat with us about Devuan and its future, in this case especially
related to it being a minimalist and reliable operating system for the
cloud computing infrastructure.

We are also available for press interviews, email me to reserve a time.

Presentation videos will be made by the conf org and later available.

Please forward this notice to anyone interested!

happy hacking


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Re: [DNG] upgrade 16/10/2015 xorg fails to start

2015-10-17 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Rob,

By default, Devuan uses the seventh tty for X sessions. The permision is 
denied because xserver-xorg is not SUID root. If it is called from 
another SUID root program (a display manager like slim or lightdm) it 
will work. But first, you can try reinstalling xserver-xorg package to 
set the correct permissions, once created the user.


Cheers,

Aitor.

On 17/10/15 00:44, Rob  wrote:

After upgrade tonight came out of Xorg to restart openbox.

I tried to start Xorg but it failed with "xf86OpenConsole cannot open /dev/tty0 
( no such file or directory)

/dev/tty0 was there so assumed permission problem. Temporarily added my user to 
tty group and tried again.

This time Xorg failed to start with "xf86OpenConsole cannot open Virtual 
Console 7 ( permisson denied.)

How to resolve?

Xorg.log below

Thanks

Rob

[ 5450.132]
X.Org X Server 1.17.2
Release Date: 2015-06-16
[ 5450.132] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 5450.132] Build Operating System: Linux 4.2.0-1-amd64 x86_64 Debian
[ 5450.132] Current Operating System: Linux debian 3.18.5preempt #1 SMP PREEMPT 
Tue Feb 3 21:18:50 GMT 2015 x86_64
[ 5450.132] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.18.5preempt 
root=/dev/sda1 ro
[ 5450.132] Build Date: 06 October 2015 07:27:47AM
[ 5450.132] xorg-server 2:1.17.2-3 (http://www.debian.org/support)
[ 5450.132] Current version of pixman: 0.33.2
[ 5450.132] Before reporting problems, checkhttp://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 5450.132] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 5450.133] (==) Log file: "/home/rob/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri 
Oct 16 23:40:02 2015
[ 5450.133] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 5450.133] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
[ 5450.133] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 5450.133] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 5450.133] (**) | |-->Monitor ""
[ 5450.133] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[ 5450.133] (==) Automatically adding devices
[ 5450.133] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[ 5450.133] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[ 5450.133] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[ 5450.133] Entry deleted from font path.
[ 5450.133] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
built-ins
[ 5450.133] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[ 5450.133] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[ 5450.133] (II) Loader magic: 0x7f18511c4de0
[ 5450.133] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 5450.133] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[ 5450.133] X.Org Video Driver: 19.0
[ 5450.133] X.Org XInput driver : 21.0
[ 5450.133] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0
[ 5450.134] (EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: The name 
org.freedesktop.login1 was not provided by any .service files
[ 5450.134] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[ 5450.134] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: 
Permission denied
[ 5450.136] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:1381:19da:2346 rev 162, Mem @ 
0xfd00/16777216, 0xc000/268435456, 0xd000/33554432, I/O @ 
0xe000/128, BIOS @ 0x/524288
[ 5450.136] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[ 5450.136] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libglx.so
[ 5450.147] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[ 5450.147] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[ 5450.147] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[ 5450.147] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 340.93 Wed Aug 19 16:23:51 PDT 2015
[ 5450.147] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 5450.147] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 5450.147] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 5450.147] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[ 5450.147] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4
[ 5450.147] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[ 5450.147] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
[ 5450.147] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[ 5450.147] (II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 5450.147] compiled for 1.17.1, module version = 1.0.11
[ 5450.147] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 5450.147] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[ 5450.147] (II) LoadModule: "nv"
[ 5450.148] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nv
[ 5450.148] (II) UnloadModule: "nv"
[ 5450.148] (II) Unloading nv
[ 5450.148] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 5450.148] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[ 5450.148] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[ 5450.148]

Re: [DNG] gvfs alternatives

2015-10-17 Thread aitor_czr


I wasn't aware!

Thanks,

Aitor.

On 17/10/15 19:18, Dragan FOSS  wrote:

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 03:57:59PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote:

>>On 10/17/2015 03:50 PM, Mitt Green wrote:

>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Since gvfs is big (speaking of number of packages) and requires systemd

>>
>>http://angband.pl/debian/pool/main/g/gvfs/

>
>Interesting.  Debian actually tags package version numbers with a
>nosystemd modifier.  Let me wonder where the versions that require

These are customized packages made by Adam Borowski...I thought everyone
here already knows about them...


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[DNG] debmirror is failing

2015-10-10 Thread aitor_czr


Hi all, debmirror is failing.

I run:

$ debmirror -h ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org \
--progress --dist=jessie \
--root=/merged --di-arch=amd64 \
--section=main/debian-installer,main/installer-amd64 --arch=amd64 \
--method=rsync --ignore-release-gpg --i18n \
--rsync-extra=doc,tools,indices --rsync-options='-aIL' 
/home/aitor/devuan


and this is what i get:

..
Mirroring to /home/aitor/devuan from 
rsync://anonym...@ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/

Arches: amd64
Dists: jessie
Sections: main/debian-installer,main/installer-amd64
Including source.
D-I arches: amd64
D-I dists: jessie
Pdiff mode: use
Download at most 200 files per rsync call.
Will clean up after mirroring.
Attempting to get lock ...
Getting meta files ...
rsync: failed to connect to ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org (46.105.191.77): 
Connection refused (111)
rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(128) 
[Receiver=3.1.1]
rsync: failed to connect to ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org (46.105.191.77): 
Connection refused (111)
rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(128) 
[Receiver=3.1.1]

Errors:
 Download of dists/jessie/Release failed
 Download of dists/jessie/Release failed
Failed to download some Release or Release.gpg files!
WARNING: releasing 1 pending lock...

Thanks in advance,

Aitor.
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[DNG] About the experimental live DVD

2015-10-11 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Frits,

On 08/10/15 17:05, Godefridus Daalmans  wrote:

Hello,

I would like to clarify some things about the live DVD that I made:

- arch is amd64, userid user password live. It works inside virtualbox,
not tested on bare iron. Do sudo bash to work as root.

You can skip the user's password:

Add to 'live-config' a file '/etc/config/config.conf' containig, for 
example:


LIVE_HOSTNAME=devuan
LIVE_USERNAME=user
LIVE_USER_FULLNAME="User"
LIVE_USER_DEFAULT_GROUPS="cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse 
bluetooth netdev scanner"


Sometimes it fails, so i use to add the following lines to 
'/etc/init.d/live-config':


  userdel -r user
  groupdel user
  groupadd user
  /usr/sbin/useradd --home /home/user --create-home --gid user live
  FILE1=/etc/passwd
  if grep "^user:x:" ${FILE1}
then
  LINE1=`grep "^user:x:" ${FILE1}`
  LINE2="user::1002:1002:User,,,:/home/user:/bin/bash"
  rpl -q "${LINE1}" "${LINE2}" ${FILE1}
fi
  FILE2=/etc/shadow
  if grep "^user:" ${FILE2}
then
  LINE3=`grep "^user:" ${FILE2}`
  LINE4="user"
  rpl -q "${LINE3}" "${LINE4}" ${FILE2}
fi
  fi
  sed -i '25i user ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL' /etc/sudoers

By the way, have you included debian-installer in your distribution?


- It was an experiment by me to learn live-build and see how far I could
get with it on Devuan while avoiding systemd

- It's not really a server installation, because that doesn't match with
a live DVD. Maybe that's why it was so easy to stay away from
libsystemd0 (thanks Devuan!!)


Mmm... Yes, it's possible a live session without any Desktop Environment 
or Window Manager.



- It has udev and libudev1 (Devuan Jessie, couldn't purge systemd
completely)

- It is not an "official" Devuan selection of packages; it's a bloated
DVD full of 2.4 Gb of unrelated stuff. I call it "Vannsätter Linux".

- Nothing from non-free, so it's missing firmware-linux-nonfree, rar,
p7zip, and various microcodes, as well as mondo/mindi/afio:-(


Good, free distros are always a good thing !!


- No wifi programs 'cause I don't have a laptop (suggestions??)


Of course: 'netman'. There are deb packages, but i must do one change in 
them: i have to move 'netman.desktop' from '/usr/share/applications' to 
'/etc/xdg/autostart'.



- I just put on it stuff that I selected for the following four
completely different purposes:

(1) generic live DVD, like the old Knoppix, for people from my village
to experiment with when they crash their MS Windows computers. The
locale is set to sv_SE.UTF-8, good to practise your Swedish. I couldn't
figure out how to change it while it's running.
So you can enter your credit card details if you want to begin on-line
shopping. I'm not a security expert, so I thought iceweasel (=firefox)
and HTTPS are good enough.
It has childsplay and stellarium.


If you like knoppix, i'm packaging the latest version of Compiz Fusion 
(the sources are not included in knoppix's repositories; only the 
packages). You will can import the configuration of Compiz Fusion from 
knoppix, because it's the same version of Compiz.


As regards locale, you can change it typing 'dpkg-reconfigure locales', 
but it needs a reboot of the system. So, you must configure it in the 
'append initrd' of the iso. Keyboard configuration can be changed using 
'fbxkb', but i found a bug in it: **after running fbxkb **'Alt Gr' key 
is not detected**.



(2) basic system admin rescue tools. I've only sporadically worked in a
system admin rôle, so it probably doesn't have the exact tools that you
expect:-)
It's especially lacking backup tools such as mondo/mindi/afio.

(3) programs that I like such as canfield and singularity:-)


(4) a large collection of development tools, scripts and programs, and a
short tutorial I wrote about the GNU hello and Debian hello package.

Let me try to explain (4)

We all need to begin somewhere.

Not all of us are experienced enough in the areas we need to learn to
make Devuan thrive.

A large task like "make an improved Devuan fork of a Debian package" or
"make a better udev" or "split dbus in three" is best done in little
steps, on a "safe" computer system like a live DVD inside virtualbox, so
you don't thrash your own computer.

I thought that this live DVD would help budding enthusiasts and people
like me to learn how to assist the Devuan team in their work.

Once you've re-built the Debian hello package yourself, you feel a bit
more confident that the goals of Devuan are actually attainable and
within human reach:-)

I cannot begin to say how impressed I am with Debian and Devuan, if you
look "under the hood", like you can with this live DVD (it contains the
debian-policy documentation, for instance).
It gives one the feeling that people much cleverer than you have
designed this (kinda opposite to systemd).

I made this DVD to help people like me to begin somewhere. Feedback is
welcome.

Now if you like I can upload it somewhere

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, , eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-12 Thread aitor_czr


Good!

I will update the packages of netman. I'm still generating the 
Packages*.gz  and the Contents*.gz of my repository. Adding Contents*.gz 
slows the proccess. It takes so long...


...Patience...

Aitor.

On 12/10/15 14:00, Edward Bartolo  wrote:

Hi All,

The changes have been uploaded. The backend should now support other
devices besides wlan0 and eth0.

Edward


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Re: [DNG] Alternative for ARM processors

2015-10-07 Thread aitor_czr


Thanks Florian,

It would be a good idea to build a special repository for Raspberry 
including:


1.- The Devuan ARM repository
2.- Raspbian repository: only those packages not available from the 
Devuan repository

3.- Marillat packages

Cheers,

Aitor

On 07/10/15 14:00, Florian Zieboll  wrote:

Hello Aitor,

I have to correct myself: For apt to be able to update some Raspberry
Pi specific files (like the kernel itself), you'll need to keep the
Raspbian mirror in your sources.list. Of course the Raspbian release
has to be changed from wheezy to jessie before doing the dist-upgrade.
The modifications done by the devuan-baseconf package should make sure
that only those packages not available from the Devuan repository are
installed from the Raspbian server.

Regards,

Florian


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Re: [DNG] live-build experiment worked!

2015-10-07 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Godefridus,

Here you are some packages:

- xinit xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-noveau, etc...

- rpl curl dselect console-data console-setup

- mesa-utils mesa-utils-extra

- compton (composite manager) --> I will share my config file

- bleachbit gtkorphan file-roller

- lxrandr lxtask xscreensaver xscreensaver-gl

- seahorse  searchmonkey

- vidalia

- wxmaxima (mathematics)

- Other editors:  emacs, medit, geany

Aitor.


On 07/10/15 11:00, Didier Kryn   wrote:

Le 06/10/2015 19:07, Godefridus Daalmans a écrit :

>Hej,
>
>I just wanted to mention that I got an experimental Devuan jessie
>live-build to work with LXDE and lightdm and iceweasel.
>
>And amprolla seems to have lost the Contents-amd64.gz file so I had to
>make one.
>
>The only systemd components are udev and libudev1 (215-17+deb8u2)
>
>There's an annoying PolicyKit1 error at the beginning but otherwise it
>works.
>
>
>Thanks everyone who made this possible!
>
>I had to modify the live-build scripts quite a bit, which I'd like to
>upload. I haven't tested if they still work for Debian jessie.
>
>Another tip: after lb config, edit config/apt/preferences to add:
>Package: libpam-systemd
>Pin: release o=Debian
>Pin-Priority: -1
>
>It was a bit tricky to convince lightdm it didn't need systemd.
>
>If you'd like, you can e-mail me suggestions for what to include until
>1 DVD (4 Gb) is full, for a generic Devuan workstation.
>
>Version 0 has:
>- lxde-core
>- lxterminal
>- iceweasel
>- vim
>- xorg
>- locales
>- util-linux-locales
>- lightdm
>
>I'm probably going to put on it:
>- build-essential
>- linux-source and dkms
>- dpkg-dev
>- git
>- ssh
>- lvm2
>- mdadm
>- parted
>- gnu-fdisk
>- openssl
>- lynx
>- debianutils
>- debootstrap
>- xpdf
>- gnuplot (hey I like gnuplot)
>- libreoffice-writer
>- mondo and mindi, although they're in non-free due to the license of
>afio
>
>can you give me more suggestions?
>
>greetings,
>Frits

  I can think of two things:

  - An editor for people uncomfortable with vi. emacs, or even
emacs23-nox would be fine.

  - A partitionner more user-friendly than parted or fdisk: gparted
if GUI is possible, or cfdisk, which has a simple curses interface. The
drawback of cfdisk is that it doesn't know GPT partitions tables.

  Thanks.
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Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, , eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-12 Thread aitor_czr


No problem :)

On 12/10/15 22:24, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Hi,

This is embarrassing to me. I discovered a bug in the main auto
connect loop. This loop uses two lists:
a) a sorted list of wifis in power descending order
b) a list of installed connections (essids)

The algorithm was originally intended to take the first item from the
power sorted list (a),  searches in list (b) for its presence. If it
finds the item in list b, it attempts to connect. If not it continues
iterating until it uses all the items in the power sorted list.

My error was to swap these two lists!

I discovered this bug because netman started to connect to a
neighbour's wifi notwithstanding that my wifi signal was far stronger.
This set me thinking there was something fishy in my algorithm.

I uploaded the code changes to correct this horrible bug.

Edward


On 12/10/2015, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>  wrote:

>Ok, thanks.
>
>On 12/10/15 17:45, Edward Bartolo wrote:

>>Hi Aitor,
>>
>>fsmithred confirmed that adding:
>>
>>iface wlan1 inet dhcp
>>
>>to /etc/network/interfaces was what was causing disconnecting to fail.
>>This means, all system network devices to be used have to be defined
>>in /etc/network/interfaces as showm or anything that allows ifup and
>>ifdown to function.
>>
>>Before actually building the packages for Devuan, try to ONLY add the
>>backend executable to:
>>
>>/usr/lib/netman/bin
>>
>>All the other compiler generated files are unnecessary as we are only
>>invoking the backend. The same applies for any files generated by the
>>compiler while building the frontend by Lazarus. So, to conclude, the
>>only required executables are
>>
>>/usr/bin/netman
>>/usr/lib/netman/bin/backend
>>
>>We also have an /etc/netman.conf text file.
>>
>>Edward
>>
>>On 12/10/2015, Edward Bartolo<edb...@gmail.com>   wrote:

>>> >Hi Aitor,
>>> >
>>> >It seems fsmithred  bug is not a bug after all. I am waiting for his
>>> >reply as to whether configuring /etc/network/interfaces to contain the
>>> >configuration line:
>>> >
>>> >iface wlan1 inet dhcp
>>> >
>>> >will solve his problem. I am convinced it should work, but let us be
>>> >prudent and wait.
>>> >
>>> >Edward
>>> >
>>> >On 12/10/2015, Edward Bartolo<edb...@gmail.com>   wrote:

>>>> >>Hi Aitor,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>fsmithred found a serious bug that prevents wlan1 from disconnecting.
>>>> >>I will debug that, and then, upload again the necessary changes.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Edward.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>On 12/10/2015, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>   wrote:

>>>>> >>>Good!
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>I will update the packages of netman. I'm still generating the
>>>>> >>>Packages*.gz  and the Contents*.gz of my repository. Adding
>>>>> >>>Contents*.gz
>>>>> >>>slows the proccess. It takes so long...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>...Patience...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Aitor.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>On 12/10/15 14:00, Edward Bartolo<edb...@gmail.com>   wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>Hi All,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>The changes have been uploaded. The backend should now support
>>>>>> >>>>other
>>>>>> >>>>devices besides wlan0 and eth0.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>Edward


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Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?,Message-ID:

2015-10-05 Thread aitor_czr


Updated *.deb packages of netman.

deb http://packages.gnuinos.org/devuan/ jessie main
deb-src http://packages.gnuinos.org/devuan/ jessie main

Aitor.

El 30/09/15 a las 17:40, Edward Bartolo  escribió:

I implemented optional use of a systray icon. Use the --no-tray-icon
parameter. I will test and review the code changes and upload to the
repository.

Edward


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[DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-28 Thread aitor_czr


Try with:

# dpkg-reconfigure console-data

Aitor.

On 28/08/15 13:21, Dave Turner 
dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk wrote:

I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to
examine the various possibilities the names of the packages to be
removed or installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted
characters from other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question
marks etc.

Any ideas what is going on?

I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox,
xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.


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Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-08-29 Thread aitor_czr

Hi Hendrik,

I just started working on that. But just started.

The following script generates the pool and dists folders:

find ./DEBIAN -name *.dsc -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C
main includedsc jessie {} \;
find ./DEBIAN -name *.deb -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C
main includedeb jessie {} \;
find ./DEBIAN -name *.udeb -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C
main includeudeb jessie {} \;

from the content of ./DEBIAN folder, searching all the 'deb', 'udeb' and
'dsc' located in it.

One of the issues arising is how to automatize the signing proccess, if
it is possible.

Aitor.

El 27/08/15 a las 16:36, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com escribió:
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:34:42PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
  Jaromil:
   we haven't yet worked on the mirroring mechanism, but we will
   
   once done, there will be a script and it will be easy
   I guess it will be a sort of amprolla satellite process
   so that the mirror redirection will be handled by nextime's software
  ...
  
  I would be good if one could have a local mirror with just file:// 
  entries i sources.list.
  
  It would be a great overhead if I needed apache at.al. when accessing
  files on the local disk.
  
  ///
  
  According to amprolla/nginx/rewrites.conf:
  
  rewrite /merged/pool/DEVUAN/(.*) http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/$1;
  rewrite /merged/pool/DEBIAN/(.*) http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/$1;
  rewrite /merged/pool/MARILLAT/(.*) http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/$1;
  rewrite /merged/dists/(.*)/main/(installer-.*)/(.*) 
  /devuan/dists/$1/main/$2/$3;
  
  I guess that this means that if the file is in devouan, use it,
  else use the debian one etc. That could be handled by using the
  right order in sources.list something in preferences.
   So if I have a copy of http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ and
  a debian mirror, all I need is to prioritize them, am I right ?
 If you carefully order the sources.list entries,
 might there wtill be a problem if the debian package is slightly more 
 up-to-date than the devuan one?

 -- hendrik

  
  Regards,
  /Karl Hammar

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Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread aitor_czr


Perhaps oblogout coult be adapted to Xfce.

Aitor.

On 24/08/15 17:48, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:53:53 +0100
Edward Bartoloedb...@gmail.com  wrote:



On 24/08/2015, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:26:16 +0200
 adamdmada...@trueleet.com  wrote:
 

 I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled...
 Am I missing something?

 
 I've intermittently had this problem on multiple versions of
 multiple distros. I think of it as being part of the plan --- just
 the way life is.
 
 If you're really concerned about it, you could put in a
 (complicated) hotkey combo to run a shellscript that runs poweroff,
 and make sure that poweroff is set in sudoers to run as root and
 require no password (assuming this is a personal computer, and not
 a multiuser).
 
 By the way, if you happen to be booting to the command prompt and
 then running startx, Xfce is functioning as designed when it grays
 out its shutdown and reboot buttons.
 
 SteveT
 
 Steve Litt
 August 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust
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Could we create a simple application that displays a logout modal
window similar to the one displayed by xfce4, remove the default
logout menu item from xfce4 and create our own one. With GTK2 it
shouldn't be that difficult to create it? We would only need to setup
sudo to run the littel GTK2 app.

What do you think?

Personally, I think it's too small a problem to address at all. But if
we do address the problem, I guess as a distro we should fix the root
cause (whatever it is), not patch around it.

SteveT


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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-26 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Steve,

Connman runs without sudo privilegies, and it doesn't require any 
session-manager like slim, lightdm, etc...


Aitor.

On 26/08/15 14:00, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:39:36 +0100
Edward Bartoloedb...@gmail.com  wrote:


I am being suggested to do away with sudo dependency to run the
backend with root privileges.

Wait a minute. Isn't the back end a daemon run at boot time? As such,
why not run it as root, given that wpa_supplicant requires root
privileges?


SteveT


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[DNG] replacing kernel 3.16.0-4

2015-08-27 Thread aitor_czr

Replacing the kernel is very easy. The problem is in debian-installer. 
We need to add all the modules in it, and it is a titanic work 
(exaggerating :-).


But it is possible.

Mmmmh..., there must be a consensus about this issue in VUA's for 
official images.


Aitor.

On 26/08/15 17:55, Haines Brown hai...@histomat.net wrote:

I've already tried your patience with a query about why xrandr tells me
my display uses VGA 1024x768 when it shows my video card supports DVI
1920x1080. I hope you will bear with me if I pursue the matter.

I am told that because selection of optimal resolution is today done by
the kernel, my 3.16.0-4 kernel therefore has a bug. I find significant
that kernel.org skips this kernel for possible downloading. Is anyone
else experiencing this problem?

I'm loading fluxbox on devuan-jessie without a desktop environment. When
I edit the linux line in the GRUB menu by appending video=VGA-1:d, the
display comes up with the proper DVI 1920x1080 resolution. Does this not
show that the kernel is sick?

So I'd like to use a different kernel, but there are no alternatives in
the devuan repository. How then should I install an alternative kernel?

Some time ago I tried to install devuan testing and it failed right away
for reasons I forget. Is the testing installation option actually
working?

Haines Brown


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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-09-01 Thread aitor_czr

Hi Edward,

Here is the code of my libpqxx++ project:

http://gnuinos.org/libpqxx++/

(Now i can't access to any git repository in my gitlab account; 
apparently it's in maintenance).
It is a small project, and you can analyze the debian branch 
(debian/rules, etc...). The separation:

libpqxx
libpqxx-dev

is not done yet.

On the other hand, if you are interested in git, i recommend you Pro Git 
Book:

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v1

Cheers,

Aitor.

On 31/08/15 14:00, Edward Bartolo  wrote:

On 31/08/15 09:43, Edward Bartolo  wrote:

>I am attaching my updated code to this email as I couldn't commit my
>changes. GIT is blocking me.
>
>
>Edward

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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-09-05 Thread aitor_czr


Pushed libpqxx++ to GitLab:

https://gitlab.com/aitor_czr/libpqxx/tree/master

It uses command line parameters :)

Aitor.

El 04/09/15 a las 20:44, Edward Bartolo escribió:

I will use command line parameters for the GUI frontend so that it may
be started to automatically scan for available wifis and connections
and to automatically select the best connection if that is configured.
So, there is no need of using /etc for further configuration.

netman auto-connect
Will connect automatically on startup using the algorithm described above.

Edward

On 02/09/2015, Edward Bartolo<edb...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>This is a link to a post by keithpeter on forums.debian.net which
>looks encouraging notwithstanding the hard-to-workaround bugs that I
>am facing now.
>
>http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3=124343=591309#p591124
>
>
>Thanks, keithpeter and all who boost my motivation to finish this project.
>
>
>
>Edward.
>
>
>On 01/09/2015, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>  wrote:

>>Ok.
>>
>>On 01/09/15 12:33, Edward Bartolo wrote:

>>>Hi Aitor,
>>>
>>>As soon as I have time I will have a look at the code.
>>>
>>>Regarding learning to use git, I learnt to push my commits and do git
>>>pulls to synchronize my sources with those of the repository.
>>>
>>>I took note of all the git commands used together with the sequence in
>>>which they were issued.
>>>
>>>
>>>Edward
>>>
>>>On 01/09/2015, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>  wrote:

>>>>Hi Edward,
>>>>
>>>>Here is the code of my libpqxx++ project:
>>>>
>>>>http://gnuinos.org/libpqxx++/
>>>>
>>>>(Now i can't access to any git repository in my gitlab account;
>>>>apparently it's in maintenance).
>>>>It is a small project, and you can analyze the debian branch
>>>>(debian/rules, etc...). The separation:
>>>>
>>>>libpqxx
>>>>libpqxx-dev
>>>>
>>>>is not done yet.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand, if you are interested in git, i recommend you Pro
>>>>Git
>>>>Book:
>>>>
>>>>https://git-scm.com/book/en/v1
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Aitor.
>>>>
>>>>On 31/08/15 14:00, Edward Bartolo<edb...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>>>>>On 31/08/15 09:43, Edward Bartolo<edb...@gmail.com>   wrote:

>>>>>>>I am attaching my updated code to this email as I couldn't commit my
>>>>>>>changes. GIT is blocking me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Edward

>>>>

>>


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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 12, Issue 17

2015-09-05 Thread aitor_czr


.pc files are quilt patches applied.

Aaitor.

El 05/09/15 a las 21:52, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org escribió:

@Jack Frost
I do not understand the use of .pc files although I have seen them
around. I am using your systemd-dummy package though to avoid pulling
in real systemd, Thanks for that.


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[DNG] Subject: Re: xf86-input-evdev

2015-09-05 Thread aitor_czr



Hi shraptor,

.pc file includes theapplied quilt patches.

Aitor.

El 05/09/15 a las 21:52, shraptor  escribió:

@Jack Frost
I do not understand the use of .pc files although I have seen them
around. I am using your systemd-dummy package though to avoid pulling
in real systemd, Thanks for that.


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Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-09-08 Thread aitor_czr


Hi all,

Take the case two mirrors, a complete Debian mirror in DEBIAN folder, 
and the merged packages in DEVUAN folder, containing both their 
corresponding /dists/ and /pool/. The following scripts build the /dist/ 
and /pool/ from the content of them, giving priority to Devuan. The 
script1 calls to the script2:


** SCRIPT1:

#!/bin/sh

find ./DEBIAN -name "*.dsc" -exec ./script2 {} \;

exit 0

** END OF THE SCRIPT1

** SCRIPT2:
#!/bin/sh

line1=${1%/*}
line2=${line1#*/}
line3=${line2#*/}

### The above lines converts
###./DEBIAN/pool/main/main/l/linux/linux_3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3.dsc
### in /pool/main/main/l/linux
### The relationship betwen paths and sources is biyective


if [ -d ./DEVUAN/$line3 ];

then
 find ./DEVUAN -name "*.deb" -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C 
main includedeb jessie {} \;
 find ./DEVUAN -name "*.udeb" -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V 
-C main includeudeb jessie {} \;
 find ./DEVUAN -name "*.dsc" -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C 
main includedsc jessie {} \;

 exit 0
fi

find ./DEBIAN -name "*.deb" -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C 
main includedeb jessie {} \;
find ./DEBIAN -name "*.udeb" -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C 
main includeudeb jessie {} \;
find ./DEBIAN -name "*.dsc" -exec reprepro --ask-passphrase -b . -V -C 
main includedsc jessie {} \;


exit 0

** END OF THE SCRIPT2

For each description file *.dsc found in the frist script, the second 
script searches in the corresponding path in ./DEVUAN. If it exits, 
DEBIAN packages are ignored.


There are some stuffs to add: debian must be changed by devuan in the 
path (debian-keyring by devuan-keyring, etc), a black list for debian, 
extra packages nonexistent in debian...


Aitor

Jaromil:

we haven't yet worked on the mirroring mechanism, but we will

once done, there will be a script and it will be easy
I guess it will be a sort of amprolla satellite process
so that the mirror redirection will be handled by nextime's software


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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-09-08 Thread aitor_czr


Hi Edward,

Don't change the name of the main funtion. In order to distinguish 
between ifup and ifdown, you can use one of the arguments, for example 
argv[1] (the first one *int argc* is the number of arguments in the 
command line (+1) included itself) .


Aitor.

El 08/09/15 a las 21:40, Edward Bartolo escribió:

Hi all,

I think, a simple way to avoid the backend having to call external
programs like ifup and ifdown, is to use code belonging to these
programs as it they were functions. This means, their code would be
used like this:

Suppose int main(int argc, char * argv[]) is the main function for
ifup. The main function's name would be changed like this, and the
other code belonging to ifup would be used.

int ifup_main(int argc, char * argv[]);

If I am correct, this should allow the backend to avoid having to use
execl to call ifup or ifdown or whatever other external program.

Edward


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Re: [DNG] Problem with debhelper

2015-09-01 Thread aitor_czr


It works, thanks !!

Aitor.


On 22/08/15 16:58, Rainer Weikusat  wrote:

"Use it as intended"? In case you want to create a package installing
something in /usr/local (eg, because it's a "local" package not intended
for standalone distribution), the dh_usrlocal step can be skipped:

binary:
dh binary --before dh_usrlocal
dh binary --after dh_usrlocal


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[DNG] Problem with the repository of Devuan

2015-09-06 Thread aitor_czr


Most packages disappeared from:

deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main
deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main

There is no live-build, no kernel, no grub...

Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-25 Thread aitor_czr


Hi again,

I recomend you to use pristine-tar in combination with git-buildpackage.

*** EXAMPLE 1: HOW TO GET THE SOURCES USING PRISTINE-TAR 

1) Download any git repository (for example, systemd):

   $ git clone https://gitlab.com/aitor_cz/bulmages.git

2) Enter into the project:

   $ cd bulmages

3) Extract the pristine-tar branch:

   $ git checkout pristine-tar

4) There are two delta binaries in this branch (one belonging to the 
master branch, and the other belonging to the release branch):


   $ ls -s
  total 405956
 405660 
bulmages-master_0.16.0.20150107.1241-73c2dd9d.orig.tar.bz2.delta

 288 bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2.delta
 4 bulmages-master_0.16.0.20150107.1241-73c2dd9d.orig.tar.bz2.id
 4 bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2.id

5) If you want to obtain the tarball (sources) of one of them (for 
example, the master branch) type the following:


   $ pristine-tar checkout 
../bulmages-master_0.16.0.20150107.1241-73c2dd9d.orig.tar.bz2
   pristine-tar: successfully generated 
../bulmages-master_0.16.0.20150107.1241-73c2dd9d.orig.tar.bz2


6) Now, go to the parent directory, and check the hash:

   $ md5sum bulmages-master_0.16.0.20150107.1241-73c2dd9d.orig.tar.bz2
   9359934456b86da8489d24a947828239 
bulmages-master_0.16.0.20150107.1241-73c2dd9d.orig.tar.bz2


   Your proccess will be physically equivalent !!
   This allows to check the purity of the sources, because the 
mantainer of a debian package must not do changes in it (the upstream 
branch is for developers).


 EXAMPLE 2: HOW TO BUILD WITH PRISTINE-TAR 
*


1) Download a concret branch:

   $ git clone --branch release15 --single-branch 
https://gitlab.com/aitor_cz/bulmages.git


2) Now we will use git-import-orig, so remove the metadatas in bulmages 
(the .git folder)


   $ rm -rf bulmages/.git
   $ mkdir release15
   $ cd release15
   $ git-import-orig --pristine-tar ../bulmages
 What will be the source package name? [] bulmages-release
 What is the upstream version? [] 0.15.0-5b3c913b
 gbp:info: Importing 
'../bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2' to branch 'master'...

 gbp:info: Source package is bulmages-release
 gbp:info: Upstream version is 0.15.0-5b3c913b
 pristine-tar: committed 
bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2.delta to branch pristine-tar
 gbp:info: Successfully imported version 0.15.0-5b3c913b of 
../bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2


3) Extract the pristine-tar branch:

   $ git checkout pristine-tar
 Switched to branch 'pristine-tar'

   $ ls -l
 bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2.delta
 bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2.id

  The tarball bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2 is again in 
the parent directory.


4) If yout want to do some changes, commit them an build with 
git-buildpackage:


   $ git-buildpackage --git-export-dir=../build-area \
  --git-pristine-tar \
  --git-tag \
  --git-ignore-branch


** EXAMPLE 3: HOW TO GENERATE THE PRISTINE-TAR BRANCH 
**


As Joey Hess explains in his article:

http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/generating_pristine_tarballs_from_git_repositories/

the above examples are from the perspective of a maintainer of a Debian 
package. But this can also be used by the authors who generate the 
pristine tarballs in the first place. Check them into git using 
pristine-tar. Then you can regenerate any tarball you've ever released 
using just your project's git repository.


$ pristine-tar commit ../bulmages-release_0.15.0-5b3c913b.orig.tar.bz2 
tags/0.15.0-5b3c913b


Have a nice day :)

Aitor.

P.D.- There is another alternative for the second example:

  $ gbp buildpackage --git-upstream-tag=0.15.0-5b3c913b \
 --git-debian-branch=release15 \
 --git-no-pristine-tar \
 --git-pristine-tar-commit

On 25/08/15 16:24, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, 2015-08-24 at 17:09 +0200, aitor_czr wrote:

Hi Svante,

Pristine-tar branch guarantees a constant checksum in the sources
*.bz2. The packager should not make changes in the source (this is
only for the developer), all the changes must be done in the debian
branch using quilt. Shortly i will write a little guide explaining how
to create the pristine-tar branch (Joey Hess wrote something about
that), etc...

pristine-tar is needed to build the source package with
dpkg-buildpackage (dpkg-source -b builds the source file).
However I still have not found out how to build the source package from
the pristine-tar branch and the binary files with dpkg-buildpackage.


On 24/08/15 14:00, Svante Signellsvante.sign...@gmail.com  wrote:


 This issue is still hindering me from fully maintain packages, a clear
 TODO is needed, preferably somewhere on the Devuan website

Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-08-25 Thread aitor_czr


Hi, Jaromil,

I did something similar in January, but it took me so long... I have the 
script in another hard disk. I will reanalize it (whenever i have the 
time) and share with you. I suppose rsync woult be the best tool to 
mantain the repository. I don't know if it would be better than Amprolla.


Aitor.


Jaromil:

we haven't yet worked on the mirroring mechanism, but we will

once done, there will be a script and it will be easy
I guess it will be a sort of amprolla satellite process
so that the mirror redirection will be handled by nextime's software

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Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread aitor_czr


It was not Pascal the successor of Modula?

El 12/09/15 a las 22:38,  Hendrik Boom  escribió:


Modula 3 isn't dead.  Moribund, maybe, but not dead.  And it easily
beats a number of madly popular languages for systems programming.
Its one of the few languages I've used in which large programs often
(but certainly not always) run correctly the first time they get through
the compiler.

There is a .deb for Modula 3 available for download, but it's not part
of Debian as far as I know.


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Re: [DNG] Devuan Mirror

2015-09-13 Thread aitor_czr

The issue with devuan's repositories has been solved. Thanks for your 
effort.

Aitor.

El 12/09/15 a las 14:00, Franco Lanza  escribió:

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 04:34:00PM -0500, Rod Rodolico wrote:

>I sent an e-mail about a week ago to the list. I'm willing to mirror
>Devuan, I just do not have the information I need to do it.
>
>If anyone wants another mirror. It would be in Dallas, US. I just need
>to know how much space and bandwidth it will need, plus instructions on
>how to set up the mirror.

It's early to mirror devuan repositories, please
stand on and wait for when we will release the beta. After the beta,
we will start talking about mirroring repositories too.

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Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-14 Thread aitor_czr


Ok, thank you.

On 14/09/15 13:10, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Hi Aitor,

I discovered that disconnecting immediately calls auto-connect
restoring the connection. I will 'git push' the necessary changes to
netman after making sure this behaviour is rectified. However, this
afternoon I am too busy to continue working on the computer. I will
make myself available as soon as I can.

Thanks for helping in the project.

Edward


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Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-13 Thread aitor_czr


Vintage :-)

El 13/09/15 a las 20:10, Edward Bartolo escribió:

Edward Bartolo  wrote:


  Oooops, I have a new pair of spectacles that is playing tricks on me,
  especially, since it is the first near-sight spectacles. Before, I
  didn't use any.


  You just turned 40, didn't you?

  As I remember, 40's is a good decade.

  SteveT

  Steve Litt


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Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-13 Thread aitor_czr


Ok, I like XFCE4 of course.

Aitor.

El 13/09/15 a las 20:13, Edward Bartolo escribió:

Hi aitor, I forgot to write that the final step is to let netman be 
automatically run as soon as a user boots into XFCE4 or desktop or 
window manager. Edward On 13/09/2015, Edward Bartolo  
wrote:

>Hi aitor,
>
>I think, the time has come to start thinking about producing a .deb
>package for netman. However, we will have to use a post installation
>script to add the line:
>
>"iface wlan0 inet dhcp"
>
>to /etc/network/interfaces. The script has also to create a new
>directory under /usr/bin with the name netman ie  /usr/bin/netman will
>hold both the frontend and the backend.
>
>The SUID for backend must be changed to that belonging to root. I do
>this as follows:
>chown root:root backend
>chmod u+s backend
>
>A new directory under /etc/network with the name wifi must be created
>i.e. /etc/network/wifi must be an existing directory.
>
>Then, the final steps would be to create a launcher for netman, the
>frontend. To enable automatic attempts at connecting basing on
>installed essid files under /etc/network/wifi, the parameter
>--auto-conn must be passed to netman upon invocation. --auto-conn need
>not be used and netman would not attempt to connect without user
>intervention. This feature is for those who want to control what
>happens on their machine.
>
>Edward
>
>


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Re: [DNG] live-build

2015-09-15 Thread aitor_czr


Add the following:

  --build-with-chroot false

to lb config. Then you will get the filesystem.squashfs file, but only 
the filesystem.squashfs. I solve the rest of the puzzle *manually*.


Aitor.

El 15/09/15 a las 23:07, Ozi Traveller escribió:

Hi

I've finally got back to testing Live-Build again.

Apart from MIRROR_BINARY, the rest is from my debian jessie lb config

I would appreciate it if someone could please help me.

I've missed something but what?

I'd like to get this to work and add devuan to my distro.

Cheers
Ozi

E: unknown location deb/dists/jessie/Release



_DISTRIBUTION="jessie"
_ARCHITECTURES="amd64"
_LINUX_FLAVOURS="amd64"
_ARCHIVE_AREAS="main contrib non-free"
_SOURCE="false"
_MIRROR_BINARY="deb http://au.mirror.devuan.org/merged/;

lb config noauto \
--mode debian \
--distribution "${_DISTRIBUTION}" \
--debian-installer-distribution "${_DISTRIBUTION}" \
--debian-installer live \
--architectures "${_ARCHITECTURES}" \
--linux-flavours "${_LINUX_FLAVOURS}" \
--apt-recommends false \
--apt-secure true \
--apt-indices false \
--apt-source-archives false \
--archive-areas "${_ARCHIVE_AREAS}" \
--parent-mirror-bootstrap "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--parent-mirror-binary "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--mirror-bootstrap "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--mirror-binary "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--iso-application "DIY Linux" \
--iso-publisher "DIY" \
--iso-volume "DIY Live" \
--backports false \
--security false \
--updates false \
--memtest none \
--win32-loader false \
--debug \
--verbose \
--bootappend-live "boot=live config components file=/preseed.cfg quiet 
splash autologin nouveau.modeset=0 radeon.modeset=0" \

"${@}"

[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb build noauto
P: live-build 4.0.3
P: Building config tree for a debian/jessie/amd64 system
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap
P: Setting up cleanup function
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap_cache restore
P: Restoring bootstrap stage from cache...
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap_cdebootstrap
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap_debootstrap
P: Begin bootstrapping system...
P: If the following stage fails, the most likely cause of the problem 
is with your mirror configuration or a caching proxy.

P: Running debootstrap (download-only)...
I: Retrieving Release
E: unknown location deb/dists/jessie/Release
P: Begin unmounting filesystems...
P: Saving caches...
chroot: failed to run command ‘/usr/bin/env’: No such file or directory







On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Ozi Traveller <ozitravel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ozitravel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Thanks aitor_czr excellent!

Ozi


On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:48 AM, aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org
<mailto:aitor_...@gnuinos.org>> wrote:

On 31/07/15 08:02, Ozi Traveller wrote:

Hi,

I've very interested to create to use Devuan as a base for my distro.

ISo I'm wonder whether live-build is also coming across from Debian?

Cheers
Ozi

Hi Ozi,

Live-build works fine in Devuan, but you must change the
default mirrors in bootstrap and chroot config files. For example:

LB_MIRROR_BOOTSTRAP="http://ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/;
<http://ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/>

instead of "http://ftp.debian.org/debian/;
<http://ftp.debian.org/debian/>, etc...

Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] live-build

2015-09-15 Thread aitor_czr

I don't know... I will have a look at the package. Default config values 
must be changed.


Aitor.

El 16/09/15 a las 02:03, Ozi Traveller escribió:

Will this be fixed for the beta?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:36 AM, aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org 
<mailto:aitor_...@gnuinos.org>> wrote:


Add the following:

  --build-with-chroot false

to lb config. Then you will get the filesystem.squashfs file, but
only the filesystem.squashfs. I solve the rest of the puzzle
*manually*.

Aitor.

El 15/09/15 a las 23:07, Ozi Traveller escribió:

Hi

I've finally got back to testing Live-Build again.

Apart from MIRROR_BINARY, the rest is from my debian jessie lb config

I would appreciate it if someone could please help me.

I've missed something but what?

I'd like to get this to work and add devuan to my distro.

Cheers
Ozi

E: unknown location deb/dists/jessie/Release



_DISTRIBUTION="jessie"
_ARCHITECTURES="amd64"
_LINUX_FLAVOURS="amd64"
_ARCHIVE_AREAS="main contrib non-free"
_SOURCE="false"
_MIRROR_BINARY="deb http://au.mirror.devuan.org/merged/;

lb config noauto \
--mode debian \
--distribution "${_DISTRIBUTION}" \
--debian-installer-distribution "${_DISTRIBUTION}" \
--debian-installer live \
--architectures "${_ARCHITECTURES}" \
--linux-flavours "${_LINUX_FLAVOURS}" \
--apt-recommends false \
--apt-secure true \
--apt-indices false \
--apt-source-archives false \
--archive-areas "${_ARCHIVE_AREAS}" \
--parent-mirror-bootstrap "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--parent-mirror-binary "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--mirror-bootstrap "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--mirror-binary "${_MIRROR_BINARY}" \
--iso-application "DIY Linux" \
--iso-publisher "DIY" \
--iso-volume "DIY Live" \
--backports false \
--security false \
--updates false \
--memtest none \
--win32-loader false \
--debug \
--verbose \
--bootappend-live "boot=live config components file=/preseed.cfg
quiet splash autologin nouveau.modeset=0 radeon.modeset=0" \
"${@}"

[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb build noauto
P: live-build 4.0.3
P: Building config tree for a debian/jessie/amd64 system
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap
P: Setting up cleanup function
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap_cache restore
P: Restoring bootstrap stage from cache...
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap_cdebootstrap
[2015-09-16 06:58:11] lb bootstrap_debootstrap
P: Begin bootstrapping system...
P: If the following stage fails, the most likely cause of the
problem is with your mirror configuration or a caching proxy.
P: Running debootstrap (download-only)...
I: Retrieving Release
E: unknown location deb/dists/jessie/Release
P: Begin unmounting filesystems...
P: Saving caches...
chroot: failed to run command ‘/usr/bin/env’: No such file or
directory







On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Ozi Traveller
<ozitravel...@gmail.com <mailto:ozitravel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks aitor_czr excellent!

Ozi


On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:48 AM, aitor_czr
<aitor_...@gnuinos.org <mailto:aitor_...@gnuinos.org>> wrote:

On 31/07/15 08:02, Ozi Traveller wrote:

Hi,

I've very interested to create to use Devuan as a base for my 
distro.

ISo I'm wonder whether live-build is also coming across from Debian?

Cheers
Ozi

Hi Ozi,

Live-build works fine in Devuan, but you must change the
default mirrors in bootstrap and chroot config files. For
example:

LB_MIRROR_BOOTSTRAP="http://ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/;
<http://ftp.es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/>

instead of "http://ftp.debian.org/debian/;
<http://ftp.debian.org/debian/>, etc...

Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-16 Thread aitor_czr

Lazbuild doen't exit as a package, but it would be more appropiate 
fp-compiler (freepascal) than lazarus.


Aitor.

On 16/09/15 05:51, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Hi Aitor,

Lazarus IDE may not be a hard dependency as it can be avoided by
directly building netman using lazbuild.

The version number should appropriately be 0.1.0 as this is the first
version and still needs maturation to become proper version 1.0

Edward

On 15/09/2015, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>  wrote:

>The only error hurled by lintian is:
>
>"Could not find a profile matching "{VENDOR}/main" for vendor devuan
>at /usr/bin/lintian line 979."
>
>On the other hand, what about the number version of the package?
>
>0.1.0 ??
>
>1.0 ??
>
>Aitor.
>
>On 15/09/15 15:30, aitor_czr wrote:

>>I think that the dependencies of netman are the following:
>>
>>Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.0.50), gcc, lazarus, dh-python,
>>python-all-dev
>>"netman-gui" deps -> netman-backend, libatk1.0-0, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0,
>>libglib2.0-0, libpango-1.0-0, libx11-6
>>"netman-backend" deps -> libc-bin
>>
>>Aitor.
>>

>>>   Now i must to hit with the correct dependencies. All the rest is
>>>   done. So, now i need some time to build it into a chroot jail using
>>>   pbuilder, etc..


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Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-14 Thread aitor_czr



Wow =-O

El 14/09/15 a las 21:33, Rainer Weikusat 
 escribió:

NB: I'm (professionally) maintaining 57 Debian packages, 33 of these
being completely 'original' developments.


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Re: [DNG] upgrade wheezy to ceres -- warnings, errors, and, oddities

2015-09-14 Thread aitor_czr

In my opinion, the best way to update the system is (as KatolaZ says) 
"apt-get dist-upgrade".


Aitor.

El 14/09/15 a las 21:33, Rob Owens  escribió:

Hi Rob,

I don't know if it is related, and maybe my comment is just silly, but
in order to upgrade from Wheezy I believe you should give an "apt-get
dist-upgrade" and not a simple "apt-get upgrade".

Sorry if the comment is too stupid or irrelevant, but this little
detail might make a difference. Also, I don't know if direct upgrading
from Wheezy to Ceres (which is equivalent to an upgrade from an
"old-stable" to an "unstable", in Debian words) is actually supported,
but Devuan developers will certainly be able to clarify this point
better.

My2Cents

KatolaZ


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Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-16 Thread aitor_czr


Thanks Edward, i will try it.

I am considering locating  netman-backend in the following path:

"/usr/lib/netman/0.1.0/"

doing after that the following simbolic links:

# ln -s  /usr/lib/netman/0.1.0/netman-backend  /etc/alternatives/

# ln -s  /etc/alternatives/netman-backend  /usr/bin/



What do you think about it?

Aitor.

On 16/09/15 09:55, Edward Bartolo wrote:

Hi Aitor,

Try this command:

fpc  -MObjFPC -Scghi -Tlinux -vewnhi -Filib/x86_64-linux
-Fl/opt/gnome/lib
-Fu/usr/lib/lazarus/1.2.4/lcl/units/x86_64-linux/gtk2
-Fu/usr/lib/lazarus/1.2.4/lcl/units/x86_64-linux
-Fu/usr/lib/lazarus/1.2.4/components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux
-Fu/usr/lib/lazarus/1.2.4/packager/units/x86_64-linux -Fu.
-FUlib/x86_64-linux -l -dLCL -dLCLgtk2 netman.lpr

Edward

On 21/07/2019, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>  wrote:

>Lazbuild doen't exit as a package, but it would be more appropiate
>fp-compiler (freepascal) than lazarus.
>
>Aitor.
>
>On 16/09/15 05:51, Edward Bartolo wrote:

>>Hi Aitor,
>>
>>Lazarus IDE may not be a hard dependency as it can be avoided by
>>directly building netman using lazbuild.
>>
>>The version number should appropriately be 0.1.0 as this is the first
>>version and still needs maturation to become proper version 1.0
>>
>>Edward
>>
>>On 15/09/2015, aitor_czr<aitor_...@gnuinos.org>   wrote:

>>> >The only error hurled by lintian is:
>>> >
>>> >"Could not find a profile matching "{VENDOR}/main" for vendor
>>> >devuan
>>> >at /usr/bin/lintian line 979."
>>> >
>>> >On the other hand, what about the number version of the package?
>>> >
>>> >0.1.0 ??
>>> >
>>> >1.0 ??
>>> >
>>> >Aitor.
>>> >
>>> >On 15/09/15 15:30, aitor_czr wrote:

>>>> >>I think that the dependencies of netman are the following:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.0.50), gcc, lazarus, dh-python,
>>>> >>python-all-dev
>>>> >>"netman-gui" deps -> netman-backend, libatk1.0-0, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0,
>>>> >>libglib2.0-0, libpango-1.0-0, libx11-6
>>>> >>"netman-backend" deps -> libc-bin
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Aitor.
>>>> >>

>>>>> >>>   Now i must to hit with the correct dependencies. All the rest is
>>>>> >>>   done. So, now i need some time to build it into a chroot jail
>>>>> >>>using
>>>>> >>>   pbuilder, etc..


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[DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.


Hi Edward,

Consider a double pointer like a matrix (in algebra) witch one you don't 
know its dimension a priori.


An example: put the case that we are developing an application witch 
calculates the inverse of a matrix of dimensions NxM. The values of N 
and M will be determinated by the user and they are unknown a priori. If 
so, we declare a doble pointer:


float **ptr;

The application asks to the user the values of of the number of files 
(N) and columns (M), and according to them it reserves the "necessary 
and sufficient" memory:


ptr = (float**) malloc(files* sizeof(float*);

  for (i=0; i wrote:

Hi all,

Since yesterday I have been trying to understand why "char**
essid_list" is working inside getInstalledEssidList(,
essid_list) but failing as soon as I try to access essid_list[0]
outside the function.

Both the source and the gdb text output are attached.

Any helpful pointers are appreciated.


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Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.


You are right Edward, i was thinking in the transposition matrix.


El 11/09/15 a las 19:32, Edward Bartolo escribió:


only square matrices can
have an inverse


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Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan


Hi,

I started mirroring Devuan:

http://188.165.204.61/repo/

I hope to have enought space in the hard disk: a dedicated server 
machine in SoYouStart (OVH).


Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.


A * (1/A) = 1 = (1/A) * A

So, it must be square :-)

On 11/09/15 20:57, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

El 11/09/15 a las 19:32, Edward Bartolo escribió:


only square matrices can
have an inverse


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Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.


I recomend you to eat a pizza with Jaromil

El 12/09/15 a las 00:18, KatolaZ escribió:

  will become pedantic now, but if A is a matrix, the interpretation
of the equations above depends on what "1" and "/" actually mean for
you. In general, 1/A does not mean anything when you deal with
matrices. The symbol "A^{-1}" is normally used to denote the inverse
of A. And the inverse is defined only for square matrices. Hence your
"conclusion" is actually a fundamental hypothesys to make those
equations mean anything at all:)

HND


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Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.