RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Is it time to rely on CSS?

2003-01-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
Not if you style comes out at 2point font hight. And I have been told by a website that I had to upgrade my browser for just this very reason. -Original Message- From: Adam DiCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2003 2:52 AM To: Norman Walsh Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: DOCBOOK: using openjade w/DocBook distribution

2002-07-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
Yes your command line is wrong. You need to add the xml.dcl file just prior to your .xml file. I no longer have a working DocBook set up on my machine so I can not help with where this file will be. Phill -Original Message- From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 16

RE: DOCBOOK: using openjade w/DocBook distribution

2002-07-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
If I remember correctly, you just need to `throw it into the command line [immediately] before [the] XML file-to-be-transformed'. -Original Message- From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2002 11:54 AM To: Phillip Shelton Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re

RE: DOCBOOK: Which conversion method should I use?

2002-06-18 Thread Phillip Shelton
beginpage is a legacy tag. I mean it is used to mark where the origianl document had a page break not where you want a new document to have a page break. Suggestion, use chapter and section tags and have the required depth start on a new page? Phill. -Original Message- From: Jose

RE: DOCBOOK: Re: class extends superclass

2002-03-24 Thread Phillip Shelton
Don't know about interfaces (not being a C++ or java programmer I am not sure what is meant by the term) but Simula is a OO language, with classes, inheritance, hidden and protected attributes, virtual functions. Simula is derived from AGOL 60. The first standard was Simula 67, and the latest is

RE: DOCBOOK: Table numbering in reference

2002-03-19 Thread Phillip Shelton
Which set of style sheets are you using. At one stage the DSSSL sheets had this problem if the top level element was not a recognised book division. -Original Message-From: James Ots [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2002 11:04 AMTo: '[EMAIL

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: different depth of TOC for different elemen ts

2002-02-28 Thread Phillip Shelton
Being nasty, both?? -Original Message- Subject: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: different depth of TOC for different elements / Alexander Kirillov | does anyone know how to make TOC's for different elements (book, part, | chapter...) have different depth? I.e., I want TOC for the book only | show

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: XSL implementation of DBTeXMath

2002-01-29 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 11:33:31PM -0500, Allin Cottrell wrote: The xsl version stumbles on some material that is OK in the sgml version. For example: Of course it stumbles, because what you've presented below is completely invalid XML. :)

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: XSL implementation of DBTeXMath

2001-12-09 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- /snip Well, I'm writing from theory and usability principle only (my personal issues are ear-related, not eye?) so I guess my questions would be: * Is the TeX version of the equation -- assuming it can be processed by a reader with no difficulty? (Y/N) -- the

DOCBOOK: depreciation of graphic/

2001-11-27 Thread Phillip Shelton
DocBook 4.1.2 has the graphic/ tag as a top level child of table. Are you going to add inlinemedia to table or are you thinking that an image should not be being able to be put there?

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Windows editor for DocBook XML that does no tmess with files?

2001-11-26 Thread Phillip Shelton
If I remember correctly, there was trouble getting the filter to behave on all elements. -Original Message- | I do everything in CVS and will | be setting her up with WinCVS to access the repository. I want | an editor that will suck in an XML file, let her edit it, and | then

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Meaning of an error

2001-11-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
First guess is that you have used the attribute ID on some elements and have given the same name to two of them. You do have links in there? -Original Message- Good afternoon: I've tried running Fop on a document using Docbook and the stylesheets 1.44 and get the following

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Windows editor for DocBook XML that does not me sswith files?

2001-11-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
I use emacs. If you have the right major and minor modes set up and the preferred setting set or unset, it should work. However she does have to get used to seeing all the tags there in the text. It does give a drop down list of the tags that can be used at any given level. You might also

RE: DOCBOOK: XML Schemas and docbook documents

2001-11-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
Some of us are still using SGML tools to transform with. And we are not going to give up lightly on them either. -Original Message- Looking at this URL: http://docbook.sourceforge.net/projects/schema/index.html It appears the docbook DTD has been transformed into various

DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: Simple lists

2001-11-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
in a similar manner to Docbook being a semantic language?/offtopic -Original Message- / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Processing. Is there any way to over-ride the inheritance | of the paragraph settings on this element? Does this help: |varlistentry

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Simple lists

2001-11-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
Thank you. I am being slow this week, of course it could. (Being lazy) Any suggestions for the value of role when I wanted 'and'? Phill -Original Message- On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:06:58PM +1000, Phillip Shelton wrote: -Original Message- [snip] and is it possible

FW: DOCBOOK-APPS: Simple lists

2001-11-14 Thread Phillip Shelton
Dopey me. That is with DSSSL 1.73 against Docbookx 4.1.2 -Original Message- From: Phillip Shelton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 11:04 To: DocBook-Apps ML (E-mail) Subject: DOCBOOK-APPS: Simple lists Processing. Is there any way to over-ride

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Simple lists

2001-11-14 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- [snip] and is it possible to get the inline to add 'and' between the secondlast and last elements? Don't worry about this as I want it to add 'and' in one list and 'or' in another about four lines further down. -Original Message- Dopey me. That is

DOCBOOK: RE: Concrete proposal for #480954: Extend textobject toinsert ex ternal files

2001-11-13 Thread Phillip Shelton
2001 23:48 To: Phillip Shelton Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Concrete proposal for #480954: Extend textobject to insert ex ternal files / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | But that does not work for formalequation or informalequation Uh, actually, I think

RE: DOCBOOK: Names and addresses

2001-11-13 Thread Phillip Shelton
Looks fine to me. -Original Message- I think we can break personname out of this: personname ::= ((honorific|firstname|surname|lineage|othername)+) Then authors (editors, etc) might have this content model: author ::= ((personname, personblurb, affiliation+, email+,

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: PSGML mode in Emacs 21.1

2001-11-01 Thread Phillip Shelton
I have noticed it also in emacs 20.6.1 on NT. It is probably a psgml-mode bug. And no I have not even started thinking about why it is broken never mind fixing it. -Original Message- From: Norman Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 5:27 To: [EMAIL

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: iso-lat1.ent:6:19:E: X00E1 is not a function nameerror

2001-10-30 Thread Phillip Shelton
Did you get the .ent file from the DocBook site? You need both SGML entity files and unicode entity files. And you need to point to them in the catalog file. Also you are adding the xml.dsl file before your source file on the commandline? -Original Message- From: Sasha Zucker

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Best Linux toolchain for SGML-PDF

2001-10-30 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- 4. I still get tons of: openjade:/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/catalog:22:0:W: DTDDECL catalog entries are not supported But I guess I can safely ignore these?? There should be no errors of this sort. Someone else probably has more clue here. Should

RE: DOCBOOK: Would you buy the DocBook book?

2001-10-29 Thread Phillip Shelton
impression of DocBook if it were hardcopy. -Original Message- From: Dave Pawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 4:37 To: Phillip Shelton; 'Poet/Joshua Drake'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DOCBOOK: Would you buy the DocBook book? At 10:49 29/10/2001 +1000

RE: DOCBOOK: Implementing DocBook on MS-DOS/Windows

2001-10-25 Thread Phillip Shelton
But they are both written with linux directly in mind. :-/ -Original Message- From: Phillip Shelton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 26 October 2001 8:52 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DOCBOOK: Implementing DocBook on MS-DOS/Windows Try

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- You're not supposed to put generated files under revision control; just the source and the script (or whatever) that generates the files. Um, I wasn't. Each equation at present needs its own source. Each source is only 16-140 char's long. Here are my first two

FW: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Phillip Shelton
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 1:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of the DocBook core, and I'd like support for equations to be part of the

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- It's a quagmire really. If you need something robust today, AFAIK, the best option is still to do math markup in latex and do a more or less automatic generation of presentation formats (TIFF, PNG, EPS, whathaveyou). But I am a little wary of having lots of

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. With respect to equations: 1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because there's no markup for the equation content in DocBook

RE: DOCBOOK: Re: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- 1. What markup is technically required to support online help and other similar documents? (I think we should be looking at topic-based, non-linear markup more generally than just online help, although that's clearly a significant application.) How good

RE: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-18 Thread Phillip Shelton
Or, rather, what tag can I use if all I want and need is a textobject inside a informalequation. I have no use for a external file. If no, WHY??? -Original Message- From: Phillip Shelton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 19 October 2001 14:23 To: DocBook list (E-mail

FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-18 Thread Phillip Shelton
the content models of equation and informalequation do not allow an element with #PCDATA in it as the only element. I could just not mark up the equation but feel that is wasting the intent of XML. Phill -Original Message- From: Phillip Shelton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 19

RE: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-18 Thread Phillip Shelton
By the way, the displayed equations in RTF from XML via dsssl are not centred. Even if I have align=centre on the imageobject. Phill -Original Message- From: Phillip Shelton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 19 October 2001 14:41 To: DocBook list (E-mail) Subject: FW

DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: DOCBOOK: Table problems

2001-10-18 Thread Phillip Shelton
? -Original Message- From: Norman Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 19 October 2001 3:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Table problems [Follow-ups to docbook-apps] / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I am using Jade and the DSSSL1.73

RE: DOCBOOK: Re: Page footers and Headers.

2001-10-17 Thread Phillip Shelton
: / Phillip Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I want to put The company name in the header and the filename and author in | the footer. The filename isn't available to Jade, so I don't think you can easily do that. Yes. In the beginning of May 2000, Brandon Ibach posted

DOCBOOK: CALS table

2001-10-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
Just read the intro to the xml exchange DTD and am wondering, if the model does not allow table footers how should a legacy doc that does have tables with footers be tagged. It looks like there is information being lost due to the adopted table model.

RE: DOCBOOK: CALS table

2001-10-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
I think I meant foot notes to a table and therefore am asking does the exchange model allow for footnotes? -Original Message- From: Phillip Shelton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 15 October 2001 18:49 To: DocBook list (E-mail) Subject: DOCBOOK: CALS table Just read

DOCBOOK: Page footers and Headers.

2001-10-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
I want to put The company name in the header and the filename and author in the footer. I have looked at dbcompon.dsl but at the moment all that does is make my head hurt. Is there a hardcopy that I could get my hands onto that would help with getting a grip on how docbook and DSSSL work

DOCBOOK: Top level divisions.

2001-10-15 Thread Phillip Shelton
latex has an article class and a report class in its documenttype declarations. Would both of these be articles in DocBook? Phill To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager:

DOCBOOK: Font size

2001-10-08 Thread Phillip Shelton
Font size is a style sheet affect or a toolset effect? Phillip To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl

RE: DOCBOOK: Font size

2001-10-08 Thread Phillip Shelton
Font size is a style sheet affect or a toolset effect? To answer my own question, it is a stylesheet affect. Further poking has me asking ``Do I change dbparams.dsl directly or should I write a driver?'' Because for my current use of $mono-seq$, i.e. varname, I don't want to scale the font

RE: DOCBOOK: Font size

2001-10-08 Thread Phillip Shelton
I managed to find my way and have made my first customisation. Thank you for putting up with my musings. -Original Message- Font size is a style sheet affect or a toolset effect? To answer my own question, it is a stylesheet affect. Further poking has me asking ``Do I change

DOCBOOK: TDG 2.0.2

2001-10-07 Thread Phillip Shelton
There are some spelling mistakes in this version. Also, you will need to update the section on Classname. On this page you say that there are no tags for methods, but you then have methodname, and methodparam as tags. To

DOCBOOK: Typo in TGD?

2001-10-02 Thread Phillip Shelton
file tgd/en/simplelist.html Should the attribute have quotes around its value? Jade and nsgmls complain about an attribute value specification must be an attribute value literal unless SHORTAG YES is specified. My test.xml file is ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? !DOCTYPE sect1 SYSTEM

RE: DOCBOOK: [ #456174 ] Req: a YearRange within copyright

2001-09-24 Thread Phillip Shelton
Another obvious possibility is to let the stylesheet take care of the collation. You need someway of marking up the difference between 1990-2000 and 1990,2000 Phill To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: OpenJade vs. OpenSP.

2001-09-04 Thread Phillip Shelton
To the best of my knowledge, Jade and SP are no longer being maintained. James Clark has moved on to other things. Is OpenSP OpenJade James Clark´s SP Jade sequels, or are they a split in development? I mean, are SP Jade still being developed or actively maintained?

DOCBOOK: Corrections?

2001-08-29 Thread Phillip Shelton
In looking at this page; http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/entry.html I noticed this. quote ... Processing expectations This element is expected to obey the semantics of the CALS Table Model Document Type Definition, as specified by OASIS Technical Memorandum TM 9502:1995 . The content of Entry

RE: DOCBOOK: Corrections?

2001-08-29 Thread Phillip Shelton
Further to the previous email, on the same page, quote ... Pernicious Mixed Content The content model of the Entry element exhibits a nasty peculiarity that we call pernicious mixed content.[19] Every other element in DocBook contains either block elements or inline elements (including

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: db2latex

2001-07-23 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- From: Sebastian Rahtz Phillip Shelton writes: Probably, but at least I know how to get what I want out of LaTex. and for how long? the pool of LaTeX expertise shrinks each year My own knowledge should not shrink. And I don't think I said that I would not try

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Overfull \hbox in alignment

2001-04-30 Thread Phillip Shelton
True. But it is a part of the backend you are using to display it. I run into this problem often with math mark-up in LaTeX. With only 5 in 200 pages I personally would accept it if the amounts were under about 5 point each. -Original Message- -- Original Message

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Multi-line header problems

2001-04-17 Thread Phillip Shelton
Is it the same piece of text or is the text also different? -Original Message- From: Richard Sharpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DOCBOOK-APPS: Multi-line header problems Hi, I have modified my DSSSL scripts

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Aaargh, text with {...} causes pdfjadetex to blow up...

2001-04-16 Thread Phillip Shelton
There may be more of the tex file needed, but the tex fragment is missing a closing brace. Or is it that it is missing an opening \{. hmmm. -Original Message- Here is the DocBook fragment: glosstermlcub;lt;str1gt;,lt;str2gt; ...rcub/glossterm Here is what OpenJade produces by the

RE: DOCBOOK: Bug at SGML DTD? Or at DSSSL stylesheets?

2001-01-10 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- / Jorge Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | There are three schools of thought on this issue: | | 1. Figures (and other block-ish) things should appear in paras. | 2. Figures should not appear in paras. | 3. Figures should appear in paras only if