Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
On 24/11/14 19:34, Terry Coles wrote: I will be keeping an eye on these tools, but I think the developers have a way to go before Toc is ready for prime time. To be fair, the commits on Github for Toxcore don't start until June last year, so I would image some of the GUI components are really quite immature. I still think that it is really promising. Promising for you. I took my webcam apart last night and discovered that it did not have a microphone. That will teach me to buy a CN from the market. P. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
On Monday 24 Nov 2014 07:43:40 Peter Merchant wrote: I discovered arecord -d 10 test-mic.wav and aplay test-mic.wav to test out my microphones. That works! See my other post. The problem could be QT. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
On Monday 24 Nov 2014 16:52:05 Terry Coles wrote: I had been there and seen that, but it still doesn't record with QARecord (but it does with arecord (see my response to Peter). I'm not familiar with Tox, but a quick search to find out if it used pulseaudio lead me to https://github.com/Tox/toxic/issues/148 which suggests that Tox uses OpenAL and has its own methods to select inputs. I've set the inputs in QTox and it doesn't work. From the above, it looks like it may be to do with QT Libraries, so I'm going to try again with Venom, which is a Tox client that doesn't use QT. There is also utox and Toxic, one of which is ncurses based, so I'll give them a try. Watch this space :-) Well I've now tried all of the available Linux Clients with very mixed results: QTox: As reported. The UI is reasonable and the video seems to work OK, but the issues with the USB Mic when using QT mean I can't really test it fully yet. uTox: Works in a similar way to QTox, with sound. However, I get lots of feedback and the sound is very echoing and as a result is unintelligible. Venom: Looks promising, but neither my daughter or myself could work out how the to pick up an incoming call ;-( As a result we have no idea how well the audio and video work. Toxic: This is the ncurses based client, so should be pretty lean and mean. However, the learning curve is pretty steep and so I haven't worked out how to use it yet. I will be keeping an eye on these tools, but I think the developers have a way to go before Toc is ready for prime time. To be fair, the commits on Github for Toxcore don't start until June last year, so I would image some of the GUI components are really quite immature. I still think that it is really promising. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
On Sunday 23 Nov 2014 12:18:26 Peter Merchant wrote: On 23/11/14 09:30, Terry Coles wrote: Since Skype stopped working ...I'm assuming that Skype for Linux has built in support for USB Mics. Hi Terry, I am not so sure about that. I have a trust USB webcam with Microphone, and even though I now have the video working, I don't seem to have the Mic working. I am using Skype 4.3.0.37 Both the webcam and the Mic work fine for me in Skype 4.3.0.37; I nevr had to do a thing. Its all the other Apps that use a Mic that don't seem to work with the USB Mic. The Tox suite of IM Clients would seem ideal, given my bandwidth issue with the latest version of Skype, but at the moment I can only use a poor quality boom Mic, when I have a perfectly good USB Mic. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
Hi Terry. On 23 November 2014 at 13:38, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: The Tox suite of IM Clients would seem ideal, given my bandwidth issue with the latest version of Skype, but at the moment I can only use a poor quality boom Mic, when I have a perfectly good USB Mic. Your system probably uses pulseaudio, so you might be better with the pavucontrol program since that's the mixer that comes with Pulseaudio. John -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
On Sunday 23 Nov 2014 15:00:47 John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Your system probably uses pulseaudio, so you might be better with the pavucontrol program since that's the mixer that comes with Pulseaudio. That took me a bit further forward; in the 'Input Devices' tab of the pavucontrol program, I can see the USB Mic levels changing as I speak, so I know that a bit more works than I did before. I still can't get the audio to another piece of software on the computer, other than Skype. Can anyone think what other utility or kernel module might be needed to route the incoming stream from the USB Mic to compatible communication programs on the machine? -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
Hi Terry, I still can't get the audio to another piece of software on the computer, other than Skype. Don't know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1325282 is relevant and any help. Google just shows me lots of people having trouble getting the microphone to work with Skype. Could you have done something in the past to get that going and it's crippled it for everything else? How long before systemd consumes PulseAudio? :-) Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
On Sunday 23 Nov 2014 17:10:59 Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, I still can't get the audio to another piece of software on the computer, other than Skype. Don't know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1325282 is The symptoms seem the same superficially, but the bug seems related to having two instances of pulseaudio being started. I only have one. relevant and any help. Google just shows me lots of people having trouble getting the microphone to work with Skype. Could you have done Yes. That's what I got. something in the past to get that going and it's crippled it for everything else? This is a clean install, so unlikely. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] USB Mic works in Skype but not in anything else!
On 23/11/14 20:29, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Hi Terry. If an application is using pulseaudio and is using an input device like a microphone, it will appear in the Recording tab of pavucontrol. In there, you should be able to change which input device it uses. Try making a Skype Test Call while watching that tab in pavucontrol and you'll see what I mean. I'm not familiar with Tox, but a quick search to find out if it used pulseaudio lead me to https://github.com/Tox/toxic/issues/148 which suggests that Tox uses OpenAL and has its own methods to select inputs. On 23 November 2014 at 16:11, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: On Sunday 23 Nov 2014 15:00:47 John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Your system probably uses pulseaudio, so you might be better with the pavucontrol program since that's the mixer that comes with Pulseaudio. That took me a bit further forward; in the 'Input Devices' tab of the pavucontrol program, I can see the USB Mic levels changing as I speak, so I know that a bit more works than I did before. I still can't get the audio to another piece of software on the computer, other than Skype. Can anyone think what other utility or kernel module might be needed to route the incoming stream from the USB Mic to compatible communication programs on the machine? -- Terry Coles I discovered arecord -d 10 test-mic.wav and aplay test-mic.wav to test out my microphones. Peter -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-12-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
