Re: [DOTNET] Com+

2002-06-21 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there a "rule of thumb" that will tell us whether we should use com+ for > our db transactions or not? We are converting a system from com/vb > to .net. I am trying to figure out whether we should just keep our > transaction layer in ado.net, the sproc le

Re: [DOTNET] ADO.NET and Dispose

2002-06-12 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Daniel Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I read the docs correctly, Close ( ) calls Dispose ( ) for the > Connection. Yes. > However, I would like to know more about the proper way to dispose of > resources. If an object implements Dispose() then you should call it when you are complet

Re: [DOTNET] FormsAuthentication.Signout and browser back button

2002-06-11 Thread Peter Foreman
--- "Marsh, Drew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Weeres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > That's not quite what I was looking for. I would like the > > pages to be cached as long as they are signed in but once > > they signout I would like to remove them from cache or cause > > them to h

Re: [DOTNET] ADO.NET and Dispose

2002-06-11 Thread Peter Foreman
--- "Beauchemin, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > database cursors, so if you don't call it, you will indeed run out of cursors. There >is at least > one ADO.NET book out that discusses this. ;-) I assume this is yours? [1] :-) > Database programmers are used to calling Close; Dispose is .NET

Re: [DOTNET] ADO.NET and Dispose

2002-06-11 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Chris Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just would like to know what the most appropriate techniques are for > Disposal of ADO.NET objects > > Basically..Am I going overkill on the Dispose methods? Not IMO. > Also...What resources are actually being disposed? It depends. The connecti

Re: [DOTNET] Remoting scalability question...

2002-06-10 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Alex Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. web server (ASP.Net - C#) > 2. middleware server (web pages connect via remoting) > 3. SQL server 2k database backend. > > The middleware layer will be quite heavy and I want to make use of caching > objects etc. to improve the syst

Re: [DOTNET] VC++ Or C#

2002-06-06 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Yogesh Shetty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to know the view of other developer/architects in this > group > > I am also desperately looking out for benchmark info between VC++ and C#... > if they have been conducted.. C++ has generics and MI, which can make it preferable for

Re: [DOTNET] Converting a datatable to a string

2002-06-04 Thread Peter Foreman
--- "Marsh, Drew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This avoids the overhead of IEnumerable and IEnumerator and allows the MSJIT > will optimize away bounds checking on the array. Wow Drew! I think it is time you wrote a Scott Meyers-esque Effective .Net book. Ever considered it? I would urge you

Re: [DOTNET] Just Checking

2002-06-04 Thread Peter Foreman
--- John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By giving the aspnet account write permissions to my chosen directorys it > seems to allow my class to generate the html pages even though write > permissions is unchecked within IIS. That's correct. The write option in IIS is a permission for the remote use

Re: [DOTNET] Administrative Announcement - Reasoning

2002-06-04 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Mike Woodring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As just one example, one of the things that made this list so valuable in > the early days was the contribution of members of the various .NET > development teams. This list was effectively a direct pipeline into those > teams. Participants could po

Re: [DOTNET] Administrative Announcement - Please Read

2002-06-03 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Reggie Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would seem the problem is not just volume but that the volume covers > the entire spectrum of skill level. .Net is such a new technology that I agree somewhat, but this list IMHO is currently technically above most newgroups and other lists. T

[DOTNET] Search the DOTNET archives

2002-06-01 Thread Peter Foreman
Searching the archive has always been a good source of information in the dotnet list, and the atl/dcom lists before them. Given the new partitioning, is there going to be an easy way to search multiple list-archives at once? At a minimum it should be new group + old DOTNET, and I'd prefer if

Re: [DOTNET] Administrative Announcement - Please Read

2002-06-01 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Bill Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas, > > Your suggestion about DOTNET-DATA seems like a good one, and I would > support it. However, this shows the folly of partitioning the list, at all. Too right. There I was trying to tell the difference between DOTNET and ADVANCED-DOTNET,

Re: [DOTNET] Overloading based on ref out parameters. Why not?

2002-05-31 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Jon Jagger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ECMA C# specification says that you can overload based on ref/out > parameters. Eg 10.6 > > interface ITest > { > void F(ref int x); > void F(out int x); > } > > The Microsoft C# compiler used to allow this overload but now it doesn't. > Does

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-30 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Bryan Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/docs/NLBtech2.doc Thanks Bryan. I realized that I've actually skimmed this document before - I'll take the trouble to read it fully this time! "When inspecting an arriving packet, all hosts simultaneously pe

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-30 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Thomas Tomiczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could, for example, compute the hash based on the source IP - so all > requests form one ip would be handled on one server :-) :-) Seriously, has anyone got a link to something describing how this works? I couldn't find anything on MSDN. Ap

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-30 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Greg Reinacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There isn't a single load balancing server, per se. With NLB, there is a > virtual IP address of the cluster. Every server in the cluster will see > every request to the virtual IP at it's network interface. Then each > server individually execute

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-29 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Greg Reinacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I know of many web farms that are load balanced with NLB. There > isn't any gathering of performance information with NLB, although as you > mention the software algorithm does take a small amount of overhead. And > we've seen in a lab th

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-29 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Andrew Gayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In general web farms don't employ Microsoft Component Load Balancing > (CLB), or software enabled Network Load Balancing (NLB) due to the > following reasons I don't think you can lump these two together. CLB is very niche, because most people stic

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-29 Thread Peter Foreman
To clarify a previous email: Clustering service provides: Windows 2000 Advanced Server - 2 nodes Data Center - 4 nodes .Net Servers Advanced Server - 4 nodes Data Center - 8 nodes And all do support some kind of Active/Active clustering (but I've never used it so I don't know details). Also,

Re: [DOTNET] Need a good real-world C# Exceptions Resource or Stategy for Library

2002-05-29 Thread Peter Foreman
Ideally you should be able to customize a library to client requirements. That means the ability to add logging if required, and the ability to avoid any performance hit if you don't. That goes for any concern with cross-cuts the library. Tracing, logging, error-handling etc. The ability to

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-28 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Brad Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, if you use Windows Load Balancing, my understanding is that the > multiple machines all appear as one large, single machine to the outside > world. In that scenario, I'm not sure how/if you could move the request to > another machine. In realit

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-28 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Brad Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brad Wilson wrote: > > > However, if you use Windows Load Balancing, my understanding is that the > > multiple machines all appear as one large, single machine to the outside > > world. > > My mistake. This is clustering, not load balancing. That'll tea

Re: [DOTNET] ASP.NET and HTTP request routing in a web farm

2002-05-28 Thread Peter Foreman
--- George Mladenov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to design my web application so that it can be run in a web > farm but I've never actually had any experience with web farms. I am > assuming that in a web farm some load balancing software (MS Application > Center?) routes HTTP requests

Re: [DOTNET] PDF Downloads

2002-05-28 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Wayne Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have an asp.net app written using c#. What I'd like to do is when > someone clicks a hyperlink, say: > > Click > > I'd like that to open a new page, run a db query which returns the > filename of that doc, and triggers the download of the pdf. A

Re: [DOTNET] web dialog

2002-05-28 Thread Peter Foreman
The issue here is not ASP.Net, but HTML and browser standards. There is no standard, flexible equivalent of dialogs, and certainly no equivalent of modal dialogs. The high degree of navigational flexibilty presented to users by browsers makes trying to do this as pleasantly as in thick client

Re: [DOTNET] Something I liked from the VB6 IDE

2002-05-28 Thread Peter Foreman
You can set bookmarks. Peter --- Bill Conroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Yes, I liked something.] > > There was a feature "Last Position". For those who never saw it...It > allowed you to quickly jump to the code where you "just were" if you went > to another place in code. > > Anyone know of

Re: [DOTNET] MethodImpl Vs. lock

2002-05-27 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Juval Lowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.Synchronized)] > public void DoSomething() > { > /* Method code */ > } My personal opinion is that this is a bit of a hack - it's place in the framework is in Interop rather than Threading. The documentation seems t

Re: [DOTNET] Re-using client variables in polymorphic set-up

2002-05-27 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Stephen Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > switch (i) > { > case 1: >StreamReader inFile > =new StreamReader("type1.txt", Encoding.ASCII); >FileMgrType1 > fileMgr = new FileMgrType1(); >break; > case 2: >StreamReader inFile > =new StreamR

Re: [DOTNET] Specs

2002-05-23 Thread Peter Foreman
The ones Brent is talking about are probably on your hard disk: C:\Program Files\Microsoft.NET\FrameworkSDK\Tool Developers Guide\DOCS They come with the framework. Peter --- "Kompella, Kamesh S APX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw lot of replies with reference to section so and so. > Does

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-22 Thread Peter Foreman
--- franklin gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For connection pooling to work, doesn't the objects that create the connection be >working in a > Com+ environment? In the ADO model connection pooling was implemented by a resource dispenser in the driver. So it was in no way dependent on COM+. I

Re: [DOTNET] Partition II Metadata Spec question

2002-05-21 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Serge Lidin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clearly, this deficiency needs fixing. And I extend our profound thanks to Brent, >The Intrepid > Vigilante of Partition II and Surrounding Territories! Indeed, perhaps time for a separate partition II mailing list... ;-> Your discussions make me real

Re: [DOTNET] OT: N-Tier Design

2002-05-20 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Ron Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Compose in any order? Sounds like a good way to get deadlocks. > >I've found this, whilst a nice sounding idea, isn't very practical. > >But it could just be me. ;-) > > COM+ is designed to prevent deadlocks and has a long history of doing > just that.

Re: [DOTNET] Toolbar problem: Can't teach an old developer new tricks?

2002-05-20 Thread Peter Foreman
Come on guys! You can expect it all on day one. Microsoft have the same number of hours in the day as the rest of us. Given how many years it has taken the Windows API and MFC to get where they are I think the level of support in WinForms is pretty amazing. In many areas it is superior to AP

Re: [DOTNET] OT: N-Tier Design

2002-05-17 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Ron Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are many benefits that you get in return for a small performance > cost. Do you (or anyone else) have any performance data on relative costs? 1) COM+ DTC transactions 2) ADO.Net transactions 3) Stored procedure transactions > What if you wanted t

Re: [DOTNET] OT: N-Tier Design

2002-05-17 Thread Peter Foreman
--- "Sills, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The goal of our abstracted data classes were to give us the ability, if > necessary (and I doubt it will ever be necessary), to rewrite the data layer > for any data source, and have the business layer not know the difference, > and to provide very si

Re: [DOTNET] OT: N-Tier Design

2002-05-17 Thread Peter Foreman
--- "Knebels, Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you resolve transactions that span multiple table classes? Say a > registration need to insert a person and a location if one doesn't exist. > I've been reading the thread on "developing a middle tier" and from what I > got is that you ca

Re: [DOTNET] Does anyone know how to trigger an event based on a timechange?

2002-05-17 Thread Peter Foreman
--- David Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Designing a little clock .Net beastie. I'm unable to determine how, if even > possible, to have .Net tell me when the system clock updates (specifically, the > second). Currently I have a simple WinForm Timer object at 100ms and checking > the DateTime.

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-17 Thread Peter Foreman
the sort IMHO. It is really a business transactions layer. I usually refer to this as a transactions layer, because the difference to the human ear between BLL and BTL can appear too subtle. People can think they are the same. Peter Foreman __

Re: [DOTNET] WinForms user controls - Several Questions

2002-05-16 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Jacob Grass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Jacob - ControlDesigner was what I was after. > > Links to any good articles on this area would be appreciated. > > Any article by Shawn Burke on MSDN. These certainly seem to be the right thing. Much appreciated, Peter ___

[DOTNET] WinForms user controls - Several Questions

2002-05-16 Thread Peter Foreman
A few user controls questions: 1) How do I create a control which has a fixed size in the form design view in VS. I tried overriding OnResize but didn't like the effect - is there a better way? 2) ControlStyles - FixedHeight, FixedWidth - what do these actually do? 3) By what mechanism is a U

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-15 Thread Peter Foreman
till use OOA to design this kind of system. It just means that there is more of an indirect mapping between analysis and the implementation model. .Net gives you the chance to structure your code better than traditional ASP, COM, COM+. Peter Foreman __

Re: [DOTNET] C# string comparison

2002-05-15 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Scott Weston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is a really good reference book to buy that has all the functions and such >listed in > alphabetical order similar to the msdn help, but better documented? I for one have >never liked > MS's documentation or help systems. Books onlien was cool,

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-15 Thread Peter Foreman
be > moved into managed space by Microsoft in the future, the context > infrastructure required for it is already there. There will surely still > be some overhead over manual transaction management, but it will > hopefully be less than going through COM+. > > Regards > Csaba >

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-14 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Thomas Tomiczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if I make a component that MIGHT be used in a transaction with others > (which, btw,, imho is more or less a requirement if you make "building > blocks"), then it IS COM+ :-) I'd wholeheartedly agree that that would be the best route in that cas

[DOTNET] AOP & .Net

2002-05-14 Thread Peter Foreman
1) Is anyone working on AOP for .Net? 2) Is anyone working on or has anyone got anything similar to AspectJ? 3) Are there any mailing lists? Thanks in advance, Peter Foreman __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http

Re: [DOTNET] Attacked again (---

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Ted Neward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Be careful with that DF comment--Chris is already diving into Rotor to > figure out how to do it :-) Of course now it's been publically announced he'll not be able to give up without losing face. Peter __

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Thomas Tomiczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *** Resources. Like in Just In Tame Activation, like in Resource > Managers - I was talking of omputer resources. Given the memory overhead of a context in COM+, JITA is only worthwhile for objects that take up quite a bit of memory in terms of da

Re: [DOTNET] Lame compiler error of the day...

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
Myself and everyone else on this list can think of a number of solutions to that. Do you have some special need for a specific memory layout? --- Eric Gunnerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 2048 character limit is an artifact of how we do parsing within the > IDE. We're considering increasin

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
ld work. Again someone could do the same. There is no real solution to hiding secrets in code. Only things that will make it harder to find. Peter Foreman __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com You can

Re: [DOTNET] Deployment of a windows service

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Ted Faison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For detailed information on creating and installing Windows Service > components, you might also want to check the new book > "Component-based Development in Visual C#". In the chapter on Services, it Hey, sounds good, who's the author? Oh, it's you.

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
much less important in .Net. Peter Foreman __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com You can read messages from the Advanced DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from Advanced DOTNET, or subscribe to other

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
e archives for "obfuscator", and see [1]. (There is also another product, which I can't recall offhand). To what extent you can get around it depends on the exact details of your application. Peter Foreman [1] http://www.wiseowl.com/products/products.aspx

Re: [DOTNET] Attacked again (---

2002-05-12 Thread Peter Foreman
everytime it happened. ;-) I would agree but that would rule out most of the best discussions on this mailing list. Go on mention deterministic finalisation - I dare you. ;-) Peter Foreman [1] http://www.sellsbrothers.com/spout/#conference.net.notes (Day 3) [2] http://www.amazon.com/exec/o

Re: [DOTNET] OT: Relational to Object mapping.

2002-05-10 Thread Peter Foreman
nly the other > way around. > > It is really just a very convinient way to avoid writing business logic > layers that I have had to write for years. > > Thanks, > > Shawn Wildermuth > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > From: dotnet discussi

Re: [DOTNET] OT: Relational to Object mapping.

2002-05-10 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Andreas HÃ¥kansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >*** B - wrong. You ARE invasive if you ask for custom attributes. > >You will never be able to serialize private attributes "non-invasive". > > [Andreas] I would be intressting to see how you could utilize > aspect-orientated programming to g

Re: [DOTNET] OT: Relational to Object mapping.

2002-05-10 Thread Peter Foreman
with objects? Peter Foreman [1] www.martinfowler.com --- Shawn Wildermuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On another note, as soon as I finishing shipping my manuscript to the > publisher, I am going to get back to work on my DBFormatter that would > allow you to serialize directly t

Re: [DOTNET] OT: Relational to Object mapping.

2002-05-10 Thread Peter Foreman
It's definitely worth looking hard into this before doing it IMO. Depending on the nature of your application there are performance implications in going down an OR route. Scott Ambler's papers are a good starting read. But it's worth having at least a cursory glance at CORBA persistence, 'en

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

2002-05-07 Thread Peter Foreman
ine where possible. SOAP is relatively costly (at the moment) in terms of 2) data size. A binary protocol is going to be lighter. Peter Foreman __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com You

Re: [DOTNET] Wrox

2002-04-25 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Simon Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm guessing these particular complaints actually concern > other publishers. Dean/Tom - is that correct? (Sorry to > be pedantic but in the context of this thread it's probably > important to be clear about that). To be fair it isn't just Wrox tha

Re: [DOTNET] Datagrid paging

2002-04-24 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Rachael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And in this method, after the DataBind() method call, I loop through the > datagrid items (should be present since I just bound the data to it) and > test one of my viewstate values for a person's guid and if they've been > chosen before, check the che

Re: [DOTNET] Serviced Components and New()

2002-04-19 Thread Peter Foreman
an you not use construction strings? If several places use the same information it can be worth putting this in a separate COM+ object so you only need to put the construction string in one place. The minor performance hit is worth it compared to the lowered ad

Re: [DOTNET] Can someone recommend an ADO.NET book

2002-04-19 Thread Peter Foreman
What about their Professional ADO.Net Programming? Peter --- Marshall Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've gone a little sour on WROX books lately si I think I'll avoid ADO.Net > Programmer's Reference. > > Is it just me or has WROX quality gone down? > > Marshall > > -Original Message

Re: [DOTNET] Can someone recommend an ADO.NET book

2002-04-19 Thread Peter Foreman
Any sample chapters to see if it is worth the wait? Shawn, Bob? Hey what about your books anyway Chris? I hear you've got a top class Windows Forms book on the way? :-) Peter --- Chris Sells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, you won't get to see it for a couple more months yet, but I'm reall

Re: [DOTNET] Serviced Components and New()

2002-04-18 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Steve Holak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's an object that maintains state, then there's no problem. If it's a > stateless COM+ component, then no. I do recommend ditching the Intit > method and initializing the property values in the constructor call : Doh! We're going round in circl

Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame

2002-04-18 Thread Peter Foreman
Although every other browser except IE holds a small market share (even if you add them all together), Netscape 4.7, Web TV, etc need to be supported by commercial applications. It's not nice, but it is a commercial fact IMHO. Could you imaging the uptake in ASP.Net if they had left these beh

Re: [DOTNET] Serviced Components and New()

2002-04-18 Thread Peter Foreman
at transactional boundaries. >Dim objMyObject as New TransactionalObject() >objMyObject.Init(x,y,z) >For c = 1 TO n >objMyObject.TransactionalMethod(.. , .. , ..) >Next You probably need to move your Init inside the loop, since any state set up in Init is gone after the first transaction

Re: [DOTNET] Serviced Components and New()

2002-04-18 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Alan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But could you tell me why I should DisableCommit for JIT activated > objects. I should really have said for transactional components. (Since you are using transactions you are also using JIT activation implicitly). You'll never want to commit a tr

Re: [DOTNET] Serviced Components and New()

2002-04-18 Thread Peter Foreman
s will be no good to you). 3) Drop COM+. It may be easier to add transactions explicitly in your code. Peter Foreman __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ You can read messages from the DOTN

Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame

2002-04-18 Thread Peter Foreman
MO is quickest tool for doing initial layouts. My 2pence, Peter Foreman --- Rob Mc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are in the early design stages for an ASP.Net application and are trying > to determine whether to use frames or an IBUYSPY type presentation > approach. We would ve