Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
I tried both methods Windows 7 RC7100 64 bit to associate HTM and HTML file types with JUST the 32 bit (x86) IEXPLORE.EXE. My be some fancy foot work behind the scenes on MS's part. At any rate DQSD still launched the 64 bit IEXPLORE even when Windows presented the "IEXPLORE is not your default web browser, etc, etc" message. 2nd method. I created a file type ".32bitie", created a file association and added the attached registry entries. Made the changes to "localprefs.js". Starting DQSD generated script errors (Object is NULL etc) and the page starts with the "Activex/Script blocked for security reasons, do you want to allow, etc" message. DQSD does start the DQSD.32BITIE pagetemplate file but it STILL runs the 64 but IEXPLORE.EXE. If I simply click on the DQSD.32BITIE file it opens with the 32 bit IEXPLORE.EXE, produces the ActiveX/Script warning and once I allow the script it does open the blank search template full screen. So still no joy. See my other email on updated installation tricks. -Original Message- From: Shawn K. Hall [mailto:sh...@reliableanswers.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:29 AM To: 'DQSD users mailing list' Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > There's a launch mode -- can't remember the name or number -- that > writes out a temporary .html page, and then launches it via the shell. It's the "pagetemplate" parameter: pagetemplate="maximized.htm"; If the user has the file association for that extension set to the 32bit version, it should load that. Also, if they do not WANT to associate that extension, they could use another custom extension and create that association. This for localprefs.js: pagetemplate="dqsd.32bitie"; And this registry change: '// REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.32bitie] "PerceivedType"="text" @="html32file" "Content Type"="text/html" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file] @="HTML32 Document" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\DefaultIcon] @="C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer (86)\\IEXPLORE.EXE,-17" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell] @="opennew" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\open] @="Open in S&ame Window" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\open\command] @="\"C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer (86)\\IEXPLORE.EXE\" -nohome \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\opennew] @="&Open" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\opennew\command] @="\"C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer (86)\\IEXPLORE.EXE\" \"%1\"" '// I don't have a 64bit OS at my disposal at the moment to actually test it, but if someone is up to it, let me know how it works out. > There's also the problem with IE's security features; depending on > where from a page is launched, it may get the lockdown restrictions, > and the browser will run in a cramped mode. Yep. I wonder if the "-embedding" switch would assist in this? -Shawn -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers & brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, & iPhoneDevCamp as they present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, & Big Spaceship. http://p.sf.net/sfu/creativitycat-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Shawn, On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 08:29, Shawn K. Hall wrote: > > If the user has the file association for that extension set to the 32bit > version, it should load that. Also, if they do not WANT to associate > that extension, they could use another custom extension and create that > association. This for localprefs.js: > pagetemplate="dqsd.32bitie"; Nice! It's a workaround if ever I saw one, but it should work :-) >> There's also the problem with IE's security features; depending on >> where from a page is launched, it may get the lockdown restrictions, >> and the browser will run in a cramped mode. > > Yep. I wonder if the "-embedding" switch would assist in this? I don't know anything about the -embedding switch. I should read up... Thanks, - Kim -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
> There's a launch mode -- can't remember the name or number -- that > writes out a temporary .html page, and then launches it via the shell. It's the "pagetemplate" parameter: pagetemplate="maximized.htm"; If the user has the file association for that extension set to the 32bit version, it should load that. Also, if they do not WANT to associate that extension, they could use another custom extension and create that association. This for localprefs.js: pagetemplate="dqsd.32bitie"; And this registry change: '// REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.32bitie] "PerceivedType"="text" @="html32file" "Content Type"="text/html" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file] @="HTML32 Document" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\DefaultIcon] @="C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer (86)\\IEXPLORE.EXE,-17" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell] @="opennew" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\open] @="Open in S&ame Window" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\open\command] @="\"C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer (86)\\IEXPLORE.EXE\" -nohome \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\opennew] @="&Open" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\html32file\shell\opennew\command] @="\"C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer (86)\\IEXPLORE.EXE\" \"%1\"" '// I don't have a 64bit OS at my disposal at the moment to actually test it, but if someone is up to it, let me know how it works out. > There's also the problem with IE's security features; depending on > where from a page is launched, it may get the lockdown restrictions, > and the browser will run in a cramped mode. Yep. I wonder if the "-embedding" switch would assist in this? -Shawn -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Hi Shawn, On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 01:12, Shawn K. Hall wrote: >> In Vax/VMS world we used a technique called "spawning" >> another process. Seems there should be SOMETHING similar >> in Windows. In fact it should be even easier since DQSD >> has no need to stay "attached" to the spawned process >> and check its exit status. > > The problem in Windows (at least in this instance) is that it's not > necessarily a simple shell call. A POST usually has to be made to the > server (which requires additional HTTP headers that can't be passed on a > command line), which means the application being pushed has to interact > temporarily with DQSD. There's a launch mode -- can't remember the name or number -- that writes out a temporary .html page, and then launches it via the shell. That's a pretty simple way of handling these kinds of things. I'd like to make it possible to configure which browser .exe the user wants to use, in association with the temporary-page launch, but I haven't figured it out just yet. There's also the problem with IE's security features; depending on where from a page is launched, it may get the lockdown restrictions, and the browser will run in a cramped mode. - Kim -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
> In Vax/VMS world we used a technique called "spawning" > another process. Seems there should be SOMETHING similar > in Windows. In fact it should be even easier since DQSD > has no need to stay "attached" to the spawned process > and check its exit status. The problem in Windows (at least in this instance) is that it's not necessarily a simple shell call. A POST usually has to be made to the server (which requires additional HTTP headers that can't be passed on a command line), which means the application being pushed has to interact temporarily with DQSD. -Shawn -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Hi Bill, Personally, I have tried FF (I am not an ideologue in the great MS/Non MS choices of life). It has its pros and cons over IE for the technically adept. However, my small user base is not very adventurous, or skilled, so it is far easier to keep their setups as off-the-shelf/turnkey as possible. It only took some of them a year to realize that DQSD was a taskbar search tool. They thought I had just installed a fancy clock. :-) And YES, that was after they were shown, provided with instructions, etc, etc, etc. As for your Win 7 (64) DQSD quirk - I am using a "clean/new" install of the Win 7 RC1 64 bit using the installation steps I provided in the previous email. The only problems I have are A) IE 32/64 bit "conflict and B) Cannot "un-tick" the DQSD toolbar without causing an Explorer restart C) Cannot edit/change DQSD configuration from the DQSD menu. Problem C above is folder/file security. I can manually go into the DQSD installation folder and edit the PREFERENCES.JS file for instance. Just cannot do it from the DQSD Configuration menu. I am still looking at that. Jim -Original Message- From: bill.hew...@sentex.net [mailto:bill.hew...@sentex.net] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:49 AM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed Hi James, On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:19:02 -0400, you [James Nix] wrote: }I am still looking for a way to "trick" DQSD into staring IE 32 bit but no }joy so far. If you don't have any objection to using Firefox as your default browser it appears to solve the problem. The problem I am having with Win 7 (64) is that DQSD will not stick on the taskbar between boots. Quick Search still remains in the list of Toolbars - but is unticked. -- Bill -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Hi James, On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:19:02 -0400, you [James Nix] wrote: }I am still looking for a way to "trick" DQSD into staring IE 32 bit but no }joy so far. If you don't have any objection to using Firefox as your default browser it appears to solve the problem. The problem I am having with Win 7 (64) is that DQSD will not stick on the taskbar between boots. Quick Search still remains in the list of Toolbars - but is unticked. -- Bill -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
In Vax/VMS world we used a technique called "spawning" another process. Seems there should be SOMETHING similar in Windows. In fact it should be even easier since DQSD has no need to stay "attached" to the spawned process and check its exit status. Anyway I did most of my work in FORTRAN, COBOL and Assembler on minis and mainframes. Don't know much about Windows development environment. Which source code file actually does the call to run the browser? I am still looking for a way to "trick" DQSD into staring IE 32 bit but no joy so far. Well Adobe has 64 bit Flash Player Beta add-ons for *nix. What/why they are delaying on a Windows 64 bit is weird. I suspect that will change, but when? I don't believe Adobe has a 64 bit Shockwave version yet either. -Original Message- From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:35 PM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed The problem is, in a way, hard coded by the methods used. DQSD runs as a DLL in Windows Explorer. As such, it makes "inproc" or in-process calls to other executables. 64-bit processes can't make 32-bit calls, (and 32-bit processes can't make 64-bit calls). I am NOT a developer, far from it, but it should be technically possible to fork off the call in a way that would allow it to call the 32-bit IE. But doing so is both non-trivial in Windows (which doesn't really _do_ forks), and a significant shift from how the existing 32-bit code works. The intent was to not have two different code bases, which would be required if we changed the way the browser gets called. Charlie. > -Original Message- > From: James Nix [mailto:ni...@charter.net] > Sent: May-14-09 8:25 AM > To: 'DQSD users mailing list' > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > All, > > Perhaps this has been mentioned before, perhaps not. > > Problem: DQSDx64 by default runs the 64 Bit IEXPLORE.EXE. > > This is a problem because many add-ons do not (yet) support the 64 bit > IEXPLORE. > > Of particular note is Adobe Flash Player v10. > > DQSDx64 will, by default run C:\Program Files\Internet > Explorer\iexplore.exe > > In Windows 7 64 Bit that is the 64 bit version of IE. > > The 32 bit version of IE is located, by default, in C:\Program Files > (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe > > I would think that most people (including me!) would want to use the 32 > bit > IE for compatibility purposes. > > I did a quick check for an easy way to change the DQSDx64 target IE exe > file > but did not see one. Is it hard coded? > > > Thanks! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:38 AM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > James, > > Nice, thanks! > > One thing that stands out to me is the need to Unblock the entire > archive, which presumably goes through the contents of the .zip and > unblocks every single file. > > If only we could package this as an installer instead, that problem > would go away. Problem is, we don't have any experience with free > installer packages that support 64-bit Windows. > > - Kim > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 23:42, James Nix wrote: > > Well, good news and bad news. > > > > The good news is I have it working. > > > > The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation > screws > up > > in a certain way. See notes below!!! > > > > The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without > > disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every > Windows > > UAC "Confirm this step" message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress > most > > of them anyway. > > > > 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will > > remember. :-) > > > > 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select > Properties. > At > > the bottom of the dialog there may be a message > > > > "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked > to > help > > protect this computer" > > > > Click the "Unblock" button. Click "Apply" then close the Properties > dialog. > > > > 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY > MESSAGE > > > > 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used > > C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) > into > > C
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
The problem is, in a way, hard coded by the methods used. DQSD runs as a DLL in Windows Explorer. As such, it makes "inproc" or in-process calls to other executables. 64-bit processes can't make 32-bit calls, (and 32-bit processes can't make 64-bit calls). I am NOT a developer, far from it, but it should be technically possible to fork off the call in a way that would allow it to call the 32-bit IE. But doing so is both non-trivial in Windows (which doesn't really _do_ forks), and a significant shift from how the existing 32-bit code works. The intent was to not have two different code bases, which would be required if we changed the way the browser gets called. Charlie. > -Original Message- > From: James Nix [mailto:ni...@charter.net] > Sent: May-14-09 8:25 AM > To: 'DQSD users mailing list' > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > All, > > Perhaps this has been mentioned before, perhaps not. > > Problem: DQSDx64 by default runs the 64 Bit IEXPLORE.EXE. > > This is a problem because many add-ons do not (yet) support the 64 bit > IEXPLORE. > > Of particular note is Adobe Flash Player v10. > > DQSDx64 will, by default run C:\Program Files\Internet > Explorer\iexplore.exe > > In Windows 7 64 Bit that is the 64 bit version of IE. > > The 32 bit version of IE is located, by default, in C:\Program Files > (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe > > I would think that most people (including me!) would want to use the 32 > bit > IE for compatibility purposes. > > I did a quick check for an easy way to change the DQSDx64 target IE exe > file > but did not see one. Is it hard coded? > > > Thanks! > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:38 AM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > James, > > Nice, thanks! > > One thing that stands out to me is the need to Unblock the entire > archive, which presumably goes through the contents of the .zip and > unblocks every single file. > > If only we could package this as an installer instead, that problem > would go away. Problem is, we don't have any experience with free > installer packages that support 64-bit Windows. > > - Kim > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 23:42, James Nix wrote: > > Well, good news and bad news. > > > > The good news is I have it working. > > > > The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation > screws > up > > in a certain way. See notes below!!! > > > > The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without > > disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every > Windows > > UAC "Confirm this step" message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress > most > > of them anyway. > > > > 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will > > remember. :-) > > > > 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select > Properties. > At > > the bottom of the dialog there may be a message > > > > "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked > to > help > > protect this computer" > > > > Click the "Unblock" button. Click "Apply" then close the Properties > dialog. > > > > 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY > MESSAGE > > > > 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used > > C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) > into > > C:\Temp. > > > > 5) Navigate to C:\Temp\DQSDx64. Check a couple of .JS files and > verify > > that the files do not have the "Security" message in their Properties > (see > > step 2). > > > > 6) Create a new desktop shortcut - Target: CMD.EXE ; Name "Command > Window" > > > > 7) CREATE A SYSTEM RESTORE POINT. IF THE INSTALLATION SCREWS UP THE > DQSD > > CLOCK SCRIPT ERROR WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE DQSD. THE EASIEST > "FIX" > > IT IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE. > > > > 8) Right click the Command Window shortcut created in step 6 and click > "Run > > as Administrator" > > > > 9) In the command window navigate to the installation folder > > "C:\Temp\DQSDx64" (or where the Unzipped files are). > > > > 10) Type SETUPX64.CMD - follow the prompts. > > > > 11) When install is complete, with no errors (Hope!) you will ha
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
All, Perhaps this has been mentioned before, perhaps not. Problem: DQSDx64 by default runs the 64 Bit IEXPLORE.EXE. This is a problem because many add-ons do not (yet) support the 64 bit IEXPLORE. Of particular note is Adobe Flash Player v10. DQSDx64 will, by default run C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe In Windows 7 64 Bit that is the 64 bit version of IE. The 32 bit version of IE is located, by default, in C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe I would think that most people (including me!) would want to use the 32 bit IE for compatibility purposes. I did a quick check for an easy way to change the DQSDx64 target IE exe file but did not see one. Is it hard coded? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:38 AM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed James, Nice, thanks! One thing that stands out to me is the need to Unblock the entire archive, which presumably goes through the contents of the .zip and unblocks every single file. If only we could package this as an installer instead, that problem would go away. Problem is, we don't have any experience with free installer packages that support 64-bit Windows. - Kim On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 23:42, James Nix wrote: > Well, good news and bad news. > > The good news is I have it working. > > The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation screws up > in a certain way. See notes below!!! > > The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without > disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every Windows > UAC "Confirm this step" message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress most > of them anyway. > > 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will > remember. :-) > > 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select Properties. At > the bottom of the dialog there may be a message > > "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help > protect this computer" > > Click the "Unblock" button. Click "Apply" then close the Properties dialog. > > 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY MESSAGE > > 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used > C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) into > C:\Temp. > > 5) Navigate to C:\Temp\DQSDx64. Check a couple of .JS files and verify > that the files do not have the "Security" message in their Properties (see > step 2). > > 6) Create a new desktop shortcut - Target: CMD.EXE ; Name "Command Window" > > 7) CREATE A SYSTEM RESTORE POINT. IF THE INSTALLATION SCREWS UP THE DQSD > CLOCK SCRIPT ERROR WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE DQSD. THE EASIEST "FIX" > IT IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE. > > 8) Right click the Command Window shortcut created in step 6 and click "Run > as Administrator" > > 9) In the command window navigate to the installation folder > "C:\Temp\DQSDx64" (or where the Unzipped files are). > > 10) Type SETUPX64.CMD - follow the prompts. > > 11) When install is complete, with no errors (Hope!) you will have to > right click the taskbar and select Toolbars twice before Quick Search > appears. > > NOTES: There is no entry in "Programs and Features" to remove/uninstall > DQSDx64. I could not find one in the install folder either. Also, once you > have turned the toolbar "on" by right clicking the Taskbar>Toolbars any > attempt to turn it "off" causes Explorer to restart with DQSD still there. > Additionally if the installation has javascript errors in the CLOCK.JS (?) > for whatever reason, it is virtually impossible to delete the install folder > in order to start over/reinstall, even when booting to SAFE MODE. That is > the why the RESTORE POINT above is important. If the install fails - you > can restore your system. Should an error crop up in the future, the only > thing I can think of off-hand is to boot to a command prompt an delete the > installation folder manually. > > Whew I hope I got all that right! > > > > > > > If they are not followed you may find it diff > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:48 PM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm not > confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this point, and > I think we need to fin
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
James, Nice, thanks! One thing that stands out to me is the need to Unblock the entire archive, which presumably goes through the contents of the .zip and unblocks every single file. If only we could package this as an installer instead, that problem would go away. Problem is, we don't have any experience with free installer packages that support 64-bit Windows. - Kim On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 23:42, James Nix wrote: > Well, good news and bad news. > > The good news is I have it working. > > The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation screws up > in a certain way. See notes below!!! > > The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without > disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every Windows > UAC "Confirm this step" message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress most > of them anyway. > > 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will > remember. :-) > > 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select Properties. At > the bottom of the dialog there may be a message > > "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help > protect this computer" > > Click the "Unblock" button. Click "Apply" then close the Properties dialog. > > 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY MESSAGE > > 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used > C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) into > C:\Temp. > > 5) Navigate to C:\Temp\DQSDx64. Check a couple of .JS files and verify > that the files do not have the "Security" message in their Properties (see > step 2). > > 6) Create a new desktop shortcut - Target: CMD.EXE ; Name "Command Window" > > 7) CREATE A SYSTEM RESTORE POINT. IF THE INSTALLATION SCREWS UP THE DQSD > CLOCK SCRIPT ERROR WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE DQSD. THE EASIEST "FIX" > IT IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE. > > 8) Right click the Command Window shortcut created in step 6 and click "Run > as Administrator" > > 9) In the command window navigate to the installation folder > "C:\Temp\DQSDx64" (or where the Unzipped files are). > > 10) Type SETUPX64.CMD - follow the prompts. > > 11) When install is complete, with no errors (Hope!) you will have to > right click the taskbar and select Toolbars twice before Quick Search > appears. > > NOTES: There is no entry in "Programs and Features" to remove/uninstall > DQSDx64. I could not find one in the install folder either. Also, once you > have turned the toolbar "on" by right clicking the Taskbar>Toolbars any > attempt to turn it "off" causes Explorer to restart with DQSD still there. > Additionally if the installation has javascript errors in the CLOCK.JS (?) > for whatever reason, it is virtually impossible to delete the install folder > in order to start over/reinstall, even when booting to SAFE MODE. That is > the why the RESTORE POINT above is important. If the install fails - you > can restore your system. Should an error crop up in the future, the only > thing I can think of off-hand is to boot to a command prompt an delete the > installation folder manually. > > Whew I hope I got all that right! > > > > > > > If they are not followed you may find it diff > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:48 PM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm not > confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this point, and > I think we need to find a way to work within the MS guidelines if we don't > want to face this every time they ship a new version. Perhaps as a Windows > Gadget? > > Charlie. > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] >> Sent: May-11-09 11:08 AM >> To: DQSD users mailing list >> Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed >> >> Hi James, >> >> In theory, you should just unpack the zip and run setupx64.cmd from >> the root directory as administrator. I don't know if there are any >> specifics related to Windows 7. >> >> Cheers, >> - Kim >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 17:34, James Nix wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I am trying to install the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package on a Windows >> 7 RC1 >> > 64 bit system. >>
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Looks right (good job!) -- Now we'll need to do some work to make DQSD look good on the new taskbar. The Vista look is better than the XP look, but still not a good match for the new Win7 taskbar and Aero look. Charlie. > -Original Message- > From: James Nix [mailto:ni...@charter.net] > Sent: May-11-09 2:43 PM > To: 'DQSD users mailing list' > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > Well, good news and bad news. > > The good news is I have it working. > > The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation screws > up > in a certain way. See notes below!!! > > The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without > disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every > Windows > UAC "Confirm this step" message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress > most > of them anyway. > > 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will > remember. :-) > > 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select Properties. > At > the bottom of the dialog there may be a message > > "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked to > help > protect this computer" > > Click the "Unblock" button. Click "Apply" then close the Properties > dialog. > > 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY MESSAGE > > 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used > C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) > into > C:\Temp. > > 5) Navigate to C:\Temp\DQSDx64. Check a couple of .JS files and > verify > that the files do not have the "Security" message in their Properties > (see > step 2). > > 6) Create a new desktop shortcut - Target: CMD.EXE ; Name "Command > Window" > > 7) CREATE A SYSTEM RESTORE POINT. IF THE INSTALLATION SCREWS UP THE > DQSD > CLOCK SCRIPT ERROR WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE DQSD. THE EASIEST > "FIX" > IT IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE. > > 8) Right click the Command Window shortcut created in step 6 and click > "Run > as Administrator" > > 9) In the command window navigate to the installation folder > "C:\Temp\DQSDx64" (or where the Unzipped files are). > > 10) Type SETUPX64.CMD - follow the prompts. > > 11) When install is complete, with no errors (Hope!) you will have to > right click the taskbar and select Toolbars twice before Quick Search > appears. > > NOTES: There is no entry in "Programs and Features" to remove/uninstall > DQSDx64. I could not find one in the install folder either. Also, once > you > have turned the toolbar "on" by right clicking the Taskbar>Toolbars > any > attempt to turn it "off" causes Explorer to restart with DQSD still > there. > Additionally if the installation has javascript errors in the CLOCK.JS > (?) > for whatever reason, it is virtually impossible to delete the install > folder > in order to start over/reinstall, even when booting to SAFE MODE. That > is > the why the RESTORE POINT above is important. If the install fails - > you > can restore your system. Should an error crop up in the future, the > only > thing I can think of off-hand is to boot to a command prompt an delete > the > installation folder manually. > > Whew I hope I got all that right! > > > > > > > If they are not followed you may find it diff > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:48 PM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm > not > confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this point, > and > I think we need to find a way to work within the MS guidelines if we > don't > want to face this every time they ship a new version. Perhaps as a > Windows > Gadget? > > Charlie. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] > > Sent: May-11-09 11:08 AM > > To: DQSD users mailing list > > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > > > Hi James, > > > > In theory, you should just unpack the zip and run setupx64.cmd from > > the root directory as administrator. I don't know if there are any > > speci
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Well, good news and bad news. The good news is I have it working. The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation screws up in a certain way. See notes below!!! The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every Windows UAC "Confirm this step" message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress most of them anyway. 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will remember. :-) 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select Properties. At the bottom of the dialog there may be a message "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer" Click the "Unblock" button. Click "Apply" then close the Properties dialog. 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY MESSAGE 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) into C:\Temp. 5) Navigate to C:\Temp\DQSDx64. Check a couple of .JS files and verify that the files do not have the "Security" message in their Properties (see step 2). 6) Create a new desktop shortcut - Target: CMD.EXE ; Name "Command Window" 7) CREATE A SYSTEM RESTORE POINT. IF THE INSTALLATION SCREWS UP THE DQSD CLOCK SCRIPT ERROR WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE DQSD. THE EASIEST "FIX" IT IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE. 8) Right click the Command Window shortcut created in step 6 and click "Run as Administrator" 9) In the command window navigate to the installation folder "C:\Temp\DQSDx64" (or where the Unzipped files are). 10) Type SETUPX64.CMD - follow the prompts. 11) When install is complete, with no errors (Hope!) you will have to right click the taskbar and select Toolbars twice before Quick Search appears. NOTES: There is no entry in "Programs and Features" to remove/uninstall DQSDx64. I could not find one in the install folder either. Also, once you have turned the toolbar "on" by right clicking the Taskbar>Toolbars any attempt to turn it "off" causes Explorer to restart with DQSD still there. Additionally if the installation has javascript errors in the CLOCK.JS (?) for whatever reason, it is virtually impossible to delete the install folder in order to start over/reinstall, even when booting to SAFE MODE. That is the why the RESTORE POINT above is important. If the install fails - you can restore your system. Should an error crop up in the future, the only thing I can think of off-hand is to boot to a command prompt an delete the installation folder manually. Whew I hope I got all that right! If they are not followed you may find it diff -Original Message- From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:48 PM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm not confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this point, and I think we need to find a way to work within the MS guidelines if we don't want to face this every time they ship a new version. Perhaps as a Windows Gadget? Charlie. > -Original Message- > From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] > Sent: May-11-09 11:08 AM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > Hi James, > > In theory, you should just unpack the zip and run setupx64.cmd from > the root directory as administrator. I don't know if there are any > specifics related to Windows 7. > > Cheers, > - Kim > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 17:34, James Nix wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to install the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package on a Windows > 7 RC1 > > 64 bit system. > > > > I never have used the 64 bit installation kit before. > > > > So far I have had no luck but that may be due to my mistakes. > > > > Has anyone installed to the Windows 7 RC1 64 bit system before? > > > > If so, please provide instructions. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > James C Nix > > ni...@charter.net > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! > Your > > production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but > thanks to > > Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW > KODAK i700 > > Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image > > processing features
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Another possibility is some sort of standalone application that could be hot-key activated (that's fairly straightforward), and have a small window that could be "parked" down in the lower corner of desktop. But a Vista/Win7 Gadget is probably a more obvious fit, though would impose more limitations on what it could do in terms of popping up additional windows, etc. I'm afraid I'm fully committed to Win7 at this point, even though it has meant no DQSD for me. It wasn't an easy choice, I can tell you. I do have DQSD loaded in my "Windows XP Mode" virtual machine on Win7, but that's not all that helpful when I use applications there in RAIL mode. Charlie. > -Original Message- > From: David Blume [mailto:david.bl...@gmail.com] > Sent: May-11-09 1:13 PM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > I've been concerned about this. I wish I could help with the > development. > > I could live with a gadget as long as Windows+S still brought it to the > foreground and gave its edit box focus (maybe even pasted the current > selection or clipboard contents in there...). I'd also love the > searches with popup windows to continue to work. (Like mwd /popup used > to, and the newer, unreleased, df search does.) > > Ideally, though, I'd like to have its edit box always be present so that > I could navigate to it via mouse, too, as it is on the Taskbar in > current Windows OSes. I realize that that may be too much to ask for, > though. > > This is the *only* thing that makes me hesitant about Windows 7. That's > how important DQSD is. > > --David > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charlie Russel > wrote: > > > I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, > I'm not confident that it would work. We are really up against it at > this point, and I think we need to find a way to work within the MS > guidelines if we don't want to face this every time they ship a new > version. Perhaps as a Windows Gadget? > > Charlie. > > -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
I've been concerned about this. I wish I could help with the development. I could live with a gadget as long as Windows+S still brought it to the foreground and gave its edit box focus (maybe even pasted the current selection or clipboard contents in there...). I'd also love the searches with popup windows to continue to work. (Like mwd /popup used to, and the newer, unreleased, df search does.) Ideally, though, I'd like to have its edit box always be present so that I could navigate to it via mouse, too, as it is on the Taskbar in current Windows OSes. I realize that that may be too much to ask for, though. This is the *only* thing that makes me hesitant about Windows 7. That's how important DQSD is. --David On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charlie Russel wrote: > I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm not > confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this point, and > I think we need to find a way to work within the MS guidelines if we don't > want to face this every time they ship a new version. Perhaps as a Windows > Gadget? > > Charlie. > -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm not confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this point, and I think we need to find a way to work within the MS guidelines if we don't want to face this every time they ship a new version. Perhaps as a Windows Gadget? Charlie. > -Original Message- > From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] > Sent: May-11-09 11:08 AM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > Hi James, > > In theory, you should just unpack the zip and run setupx64.cmd from > the root directory as administrator. I don't know if there are any > specifics related to Windows 7. > > Cheers, > - Kim > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 17:34, James Nix wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to install the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package on a Windows > 7 RC1 > > 64 bit system. > > > > I never have used the 64 bit installation kit before. > > > > So far I have had no luck but that may be due to my mistakes. > > > > Has anyone installed to the Windows 7 RC1 64 bit system before? > > > > If so, please provide instructions. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > James C Nix > > ni...@charter.net > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! > Your > > production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but > thanks to > > Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW > KODAK i700 > > Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image > > processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com > > ___ > > To unsubscribe visit: > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users > > DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 > > > > > -- > The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your > production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks > to > Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK > i700 > Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image > processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com > ___ > To unsubscribe visit: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users > DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed
Hi James, In theory, you should just unpack the zip and run setupx64.cmd from the root directory as administrator. I don't know if there are any specifics related to Windows 7. Cheers, - Kim On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 17:34, James Nix wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to install the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package on a Windows 7 RC1 > 64 bit system. > > I never have used the 64 bit installation kit before. > > So far I have had no luck but that may be due to my mistakes. > > Has anyone installed to the Windows 7 RC1 64 bit system before? > > If so, please provide instructions. > > Thanks in advance! > > James C Nix > ni...@charter.net > > > > > -- > The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your > production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to > Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 > Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image > processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com > ___ > To unsubscribe visit: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users > DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 > -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
