[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
FYI, in our experience we have yet to come across a 2400 that worked properly with CardBus unmodified. But we've heard a handful of people claim theirs does. The best way to find out, however, is to buy the CardBus card you are interested in using and stick it in and see if it works. If it does then great, you are set. If not, then have your 2400 modified and when it's done you will already have your CardBus card ready to go. Arnie MCE From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:17:17 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Subject: [Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details Here you go: I57400H3AJN Let me know the results. Jay P.S. I doubt MCE would tell you if it already did. on 6/15/01 2:22 PM, Carlson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your serial #? I know we tried a few years back to track down serial numbers on this list to figure out which books might be already activated. I don't have access to a card to test my own book but perhaps it would be useful to compile a list of serial numbers cuz I sure wouldn't want to spend $100 at MCE if my book already worked. I wonder if they would tell you if it did. Andy From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:04:05 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Subject: [Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details I, from the beginning have questioned what exactly MCE is doing, not because I'm interested in doing it, but because I have always had success with CardBus WITHOUT doing it. -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
I know I've posted this information at least three time, but I promise this is the last. I've had two boards and the following cards worked with both unmodified: MacAlly USB Newer FireWire2Go ADS Technologies USB Ratoc CBFW2 The PowerBook never booted if any of the cards were inserted, and with some, it wouldn't wake from sleep (Newer). The USB success rate was 80%. The other 20% of the time, when inserted, it would just quit and restart the Finder and never mount. They seemed to work if I didn't insert them directly after boot up time, rather 10-20 minutes later. I eventually got it down to a bit of a science. And yes, I've used Card Support 1.2, 1.3, 1.4.1, 1.4.4, etc., etc. OS 8.6 thru 9.1. My FINAL CardBus comments, Jay on 6/21/01 5:26 PM, pbjedi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, in our experience we have yet to come across a 2400 that worked properly with CardBus unmodified. But we've heard a handful of people claim theirs does. The best way to find out, however, is to buy the CardBus card you are interested in using and stick it in and see if it works. If it does then great, you are set. If not, then have your 2400 modified and when it's done you will already have your CardBus card ready to go. -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
Here you go: I57400H3AJN Let me know the results. Jay P.S. I doubt MCE would tell you if it already did. on 6/15/01 2:22 PM, Carlson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your serial #? I know we tried a few years back to track down serial numbers on this list to figure out which books might be already activated. I don't have access to a card to test my own book but perhaps it would be useful to compile a list of serial numbers cuz I sure wouldn't want to spend $100 at MCE if my book already worked. I wonder if they would tell you if it did. Andy From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:04:05 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Subject: [Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details I, from the beginning have questioned what exactly MCE is doing, not because I'm interested in doing it, but because I have always had success with CardBus WITHOUT doing it. -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
Here you go: I57400H3AJN 1997, Week 40 The key to date of manufacture for an Apple product typically lies in the third, fourth and fifth digits of the serial number. My 2400 has SN I573902DAJN Seven is the year (1997) and 39 is the week ,(39th week of 1997). (Bob Snow 7Aug98) Ralph Mawyer, Jr. San Antonio, Texas Associate Editor mac2400 ... http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
Ok, I may be in Japan right now but I have to kick in on this thread. First off, I had MCE enable the Cardbus in my 2400, and CardBus worked afterwards. That's about it. I wasn't terribly happy with the way the treated me on the phone and they didn't keep me updated when I requested that they did. I'll I asked was to be e-mailed with the tracking number when it was shipped, instead I had to waste mine and their time asking about it. A few months ago when I figured out how to repair a bad clicker in the 2400, I shared how to do it. Some people aren't comfortable doing the repair them self, and I offered to do it for what I think is a reasonable price. I never keep how I do the repair secret. I want people to know what I'm doing. Heck, I sometime lose money on the repairs I make. Same with the paint jobs for PowerBooks I'm offering. I share how I do it, and if anyone e-mail me with a question, I do my best to help. My views, flame me if you want. 1- It is not wrong to share information on how to make a modification that someone else charges for. The way some people have been arguing on it subject makes it seem like if Company 'FooBar' charges to swap the hard drive in your 2400, no one should share how to do that to their 2400. That's stupid. 2 - MCE did not develop the CardBus activation technique, no way, no how. They just are offering to do the modification for those uncomfortable soldering to the board of their 2400 (like me) They don't have to share how they do it, but it would be nice if they did. The CardBus activation is all over the place on the web, however in Japanese. After looking at how to do it, I decided I should let someone else with the proper equipment for working on surface mount parts do it, like MCE. 3 - The CardBus activation can not be patented or trademarked, the best it can be is hidden as a trade secret, but once a trade secret is out, there is nothing that can be done about it. Example, it can be a trade secret as to how to put on your pants, but once its out there is nothing that can be done about it. 4 - Companys that do the CardBus activation, when asked if 'blah is the right way to do it should confirm if it is right or wrong. If they come back and say 'no comment' I wouldn't trust them AT ALL. Ok, with that off my chest, I'm back to being a tourist ... c'ya all in a week. -- Peter Liethen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.liethen.com -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 08:49 PM, Peter Liethen wrote: 2 - MCE did not develop the CardBus activation technique, no way, no how. They just are offering to do the modification for those uncomfortable soldering to the board of their 2400 (like me) They don't have to share how they do it, but it would be nice if they did. The CardBus activation is all over the place on the web, however in Japanese. After looking at how to do it, I decided I should let someone else with the proper equipment for working on surface mount parts do it, like MCE. No flames. I can understand your point about what MCE offers. I also defer to your knowledge on how MCE came to offer that technique. Would you feel the same if MCE had fully developed the activation technique? It seems use of the Japanese web pages did not in fact fully activate the CardBus. I was the one who offered up, inappropriately, copyright. Instead, I appeal to the idea that work should be rewarded. Also, as 2400 owners, we don't seem to enjoy a lot of technical help when it comes to our machines, as a result I view DTT and MCE (and others) as resources that should be encouraged to help us fully realize the potential of our machines. Enjoy Japan, Ed -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
I don't see any difference between LifeIzCool and MCE in regards to the fact that NEITHER originated the concept. The difference I see is that LifeIzCool is willing to share it at no charge, and MCE is cashing in. The discussion of whether $100 is fair or not is just silly. I, from the beginning have questioned what exactly MCE is doing, not because I'm interested in doing it, but because I have always had success with CardBus WITHOUT doing it. You want to figure out how to do something and share it with the world... Go for it! You want to pay someone else to do something difficult for you... Go for it! Save your judgements for yourself. Jay -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
What's your serial #? I know we tried a few years back to track down serial numbers on this list to figure out which books might be already activated. I don't have access to a card to test my own book but perhaps it would be useful to compile a list of serial numbers cuz I sure wouldn't want to spend $100 at MCE if my book already worked. I wonder if they would tell you if it did. Andy From: Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:04:05 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duo/2400 List) Subject: [Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details I, from the beginning have questioned what exactly MCE is doing, not because I'm interested in doing it, but because I have always had success with CardBus WITHOUT doing it. -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
-- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
[Duo2400] Re: cardbus activation...details
Now this does open up the question as to why Apple didn't leave CardBus enabled. I could see it being a problem if it meant adding parts/labor, but it sounds like both solutions mentioned here are removing a circuit. Then again, maybe they didn't know they had a problem until later in production, at which time they fixed the Japanese Mighty Cats. LifeIzCoo said folks, here is low down. This is a fairly simple mod you do to the motherboards of your 2400! For all the 2400's with the yellow trace wires, right next to the ram slot there is a longer one and a shorter one. The longer is for the upper slot, and the shorter one is for the lower slot, if you simply just cut the wires to both, your carbus is awaken Tougher part...for the board without the traces(like mine) its in the same area. there are two resistors located above the ram slot, look at the picture that ralph have posted, http://www.ab.aeonnet.ne.jp/~tkishino/Cardbus-j.html, at c375 and c377 instead of patching those two resistors, MCE simply removed them...in fact they just clipped it off. what I did was I use my soldering iron and desoldered and removed those two resistors, and now the carbus is enabled...took me less than 5 minutes(including the warming of my soldering iron), so very simple procedure...all have fun...I will not be responsible for anything if you screw up your motherboard. Anyway all have fun, since Ralph found that other link, I figured this maybe easier, although I do not know the difference of the effects of having resistor and not having one at all, thanks folks. And one more thing: http://world.altavista.com/; is babelfish is a translator, you can translate Japnese webpages into okay english that you can grasp most of the meanings, which makes life a lot easier trying to read the japnese web pages :) Thanks all sorry for the hassels. Ralph Mawyer, Jr. San Antonio, Texas Associate Editor mac2400 ... http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml Be sure to visit Mac2400! http://www.sineware.com/mac2400 To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help from a real person? Try. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! MPC-100 | http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html NineWire | If they are cool enough to host this list... Digital Solutions | ...you should check them out! http://www.NineWire.com/ Midwest Mac Parts ][ http://www.midwestmac.com After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! http://www.macresq.com
