Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread Charlie Gallo
On 5/21/2012 JIM Abercrombie wrote: > What about the rule 97.113 (a) (2) In case you haven't noticed, 97.113 doesn't apply to DX - at all. It's a US law -- 73 de KG2V - Charles Gallo Quality Custom Machine-shop work for the radio amateur (sm)

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread Crownhaven
I was there Friday only. Saw the entire flea market and everything inside. I'm sure I missed something. Bought a K5 Logikey. Have K1 and K3, what the hell. Advantage over K3 is it takes batteries. K1 did but for some reason, they dropped that option with the K3. Great keyers. Also spl

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread Zack Widup
I didn't buy too much at Dayton. I ogled the new transceivers though. They look like they will take at least several months to learn how to use! I bought a few "mystery boxes" that are supposed to work in the microwave range of frequencies. They were practically given away so I will at least have

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread kf2ti
I think we've beaten this dead horse enough to tenderize it nicely We've gone from coversation (CHAT) to getting a tad nosy out of jointy So let us say adeiu and farewell to the topic and move on Let's talk about all the nice things we bought at Dayton?? Let's talk about the clown who looke

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread crownhaven
Thanks Joe. 73, Steve  "Lack of money is the root of all evil." S.C. From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" To: Crownhaven Cc: dx-chat Sent: Mon, May 21, 2012 8:16:51 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? On 5/21/2012

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
hey want the thrill or not. 73 -----Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Mecseri Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:11 PM To: li...@w2irt.net Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? -pjd is making a valid point, but.

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread JIM Abercrombie
wo that I know what country he was in. Jim - Original Message - From: "Crownhaven" To: Cc: "dx-chat" Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? I'm thinking we all can make the choices we want to make. In terms

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-21 Thread Crownhaven
thrill or not. 73 -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Mecseri Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:11 PM To: li...@w2irt.net Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? -pjd is making a valid point, but. O

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Natale Borghetti
g Renwick" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 02:55 Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? There is another point of view to consider. I have been on a number of group and single DXpeditions. It has cost me thousands of dollars to participate. I feel that I have already

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
ly for the thrill of a pileup. Because when the costs to go far outstrip the means of the operating team, they won't be able to go whether they want the thrill or not. 73 -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Mecseri Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:11

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Crownhaven
e places that we seek to contact purely for the thrill of a pileup. Because when the costs to go far outstrip the means of the operating team, they won't be able to go whether they want the thrill or not. 73 -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf

RE: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Doug Renwick
There is another point of view to consider. I have been on a number of group and single DXpeditions. It has cost me thousands of dollars to participate. I feel that I have already contributed enough money to support the DX community by operating as DX. Anything that I may contribute above

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Zack Widup
discussion either. >>> >>> The bottom line is that we as a community simply can't expect others to >>> go to these places that we seek to contact purely for the thrill of a >>> pileup. Because when the costs to go far outstrip the means of the >>> operati

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Don Greenbaum
o >> to these places that we seek to contact purely for the thrill of a pileup. >> Because when the costs to go far outstrip the means of the operating team, >> they won't be able to go whether they want the thrill or not. >> >> 73 >> >>

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Don
to contact purely for the thrill of a pileup. > Because when the costs to go far outstrip the means of the operating team, > they won't be able to go whether they want the thrill or not. > > 73 > > -Original Message----- > From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf..

RE: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
r outstrip the means of the operating team, they won't be able to go whether they want the thrill or not. 73 -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Mecseri Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:11 PM To: li...@w2irt.net Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re:

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Mecseri
-pjd is making a valid point, but. On the other side of the coin, how can you put a price on the thrill of being on the receiving end of a huge pileup for a week or two???. If it cost me $5,000 to go to a Dx Expedition, I would not compute my cost per contact. If I would have to, I

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Elsie & Gerry
And there are others that process Les's requests as a priority (at the bureau priority level). Gerry VE6LB -Original Message- From: Barry Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:44 PM To: Dx-Chat Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? I used WF5E in the past, when

RE: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Peter W2IRT
Ryan hit the nail on the head, gents. Please download and analyze Don's PowerPoint presentation when it becomes available on the site. There are two facts that become blatantly obvious. One, the cost-per-QSO incurred by the DXpeditions to bring you that rare on is very high. In some cases, the

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Barry
51-0384 ve...@telus.net http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ -Original Message- From: Ryan Jairam Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:31 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? If you don't have a lot of money then it would seem to me that the bureau would w

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Ryan Jairam
I've never personally tried WF5E. I just read about him. I don't have an opinion on how reliable he is other than what people have been saying. And yes, you can wait a few years and they upload to LoTW. Between the time I was (and still am) busy with the kids my QSLing of DXpeditions dropped off

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Elsie & Gerry
-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? Have you tried WF5E lately? He came highly recommended. My % of returned cards has been dismal and I'm being kind. I sent him a LOT of cards too. Steve, N4JQQ Elsie & Gerry wrote: Actually, WF5E is more eff

RE: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Doug Renwick
gt;VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team >(403) 251-0384 >ve...@telus.net >http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ > > >-Original Message- >From: Ryan Jairam >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:31 AM >To: dx-chat@njdxa.org >Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? > > >If you

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Crownhaven
-Original Message- From: Ryan Jairam Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:31 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? If you don't have a lot of money then it would seem to me that the bureau would work nicely. If you want something a little faster than

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Crownhaven
The bureau still works great. Instant gratification is hard to fight though. Most of the DXpeditions eventually upload to LOTW so that works. I wouldn't recommend WF5E to anyone. Steve, N4JQQ Ryan Jairam wrote: If you don't have a lot of money then it would seem to me that the bureau

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Elsie & Gerry
thern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 ve...@telus.net http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ -Original Message- From: Ryan Jairam Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:31 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? If you don't have a lot of money the

Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?

2012-05-20 Thread Ryan Jairam
If you don't have a lot of money then it would seem to me that the bureau would work nicely. If you want something a little faster than the bureau, you can try WF5E. The outgoing QSLs go quickly to the other incoming bureaus and your incoming cards arrive via the bureau. A lot of DXpeditions se