Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread John Shaw
Yes that is how I see it.  I know nothing other than pulling the plug is 100% 
secure but that doesn’t mean we need to be complacent either.

 

I think it is time to put an end date on XP compatibility for DX4WIN.

 

73 John ZL1BYZ.

 

From: Michael P. Rioux [mailto:m...@rioux.org] 
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2018 1:41 p.m.
To: John Shaw 
Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

 

John,

I suspect you already know the answer to your question. Yes, the security is 
weakened. Using a 17 year old

operating system connected to the Internet is not a recommended practice. 
Microsoft no longer supports the XP OS.

Weakening security for a small group of users puts everyone else at risk.

 

73, Mike W1USN

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 

Michael P. Rioux, CISSP-ISSEP

m...@rioux.org <mailto:m...@rioux.org> 

 

 





On Apr 1, 2018, at 8:28 PM, John Shaw mailto:zl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

So how does that affect security for all of this.  Have we now all been put at 
more risk to satisfy those who want to run obsolete systems?

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[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Van Der Eijk
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2018 12:04 p.m.
To: Jim Reisert AD1C mailto:jjreis...@alum.mit.edu> >
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net> >
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website such 
that the files directory no longer requires an https connection. —Paul, KK4HD 

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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread David Kozinn, K2DBK
If you're connected to the Internet, there is always some risk. Since Windows 
XP isn't being patched anymore, there are vulnerabilities that can be exploited 
regardless of what anti-virus/anti-malware/firewall you run. Your machine 
could, for instance, become part of a botnet (See: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet).

Turning off your computer when not using it doesn’t make much of a difference, 
you can get infected in a fraction of a second.

I will say that you are doing the right thing by running anti-virus, etc., but 
you are going to be more vulnerable to infections.

At some point pretty much all Internet traffic will be encrypted. Encryption 
along doesn't prevent viruses, but it does reduce the risk.

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On Behalf 
Of Alan Walters via DX4WIN
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 9:20 PM
To: 'John Shaw' ; dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

No, those of us which choose to run obsolete systems, pay the money to run 
strong anti-virus and anti-malware, dedicate our PC's to our ham radio setup 
and turn them off when not in use.

Al -- K5NOF

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From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of John Shaw
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 7:29 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

So how does that affect security for all of this.  Have we now all been put at 
more risk to satisfy those who want to run obsolete systems?

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of Paul Van Der Eijk
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2018 12:04 p.m.
To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website such 
that the files directory no longer requires an https connection. —Paul, KK4HD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:
>> 
>> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host 
>> the actual files on a different website without https and work up a 
>> manual process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting 
>> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).
> 
> Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my 
> website.  They would have to be installed manually.
> 
> The latest country file is always here:
> 
>http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip
> 
> I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've 
> blocked the directory listing.
> 
> If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support 
> this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your 
> operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.
> 
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread David Kozinn, K2DBK
Realistically, for this use case, the risk is pretty minimal. You're 
fetching data files for a programs that contain no information that could be 
considered sensitive. In theory, it makes it easier for someone to spoof the 
source website, so someone potentially could cause your session to be 
redirected to a different website and you'd download a set of files that 
aren't official, but that's about it. Unless there's some specific flaw in 
the program that could somehow be leveraged to do something  other than what 
it's supposed to do (highly unlikely), the really isn't a risk. (Bear in 
mind that if you want to be 100% secure, you need to disconnect your 
computer from the Internet, then from the power source, then throw it into 
one of those industrial shredders.)

A bigger risk would be if the main website didn't use HTTPS (it does). 

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of John Shaw
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:29 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

So how does that affect security for all of this.  Have we now all been put 
at more risk to satisfy those who want to run obsolete systems?

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] 
On Behalf Of Paul Van Der Eijk
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2018 12:04 p.m.
To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website 
such that the files directory no longer requires an https connection. —Paul, 
KK4HD

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C  
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:
>>
>> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host
>> the actual files on a different website without https and work up a
>> manual process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting
>> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).
>
> Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my
> website.  They would have to be installed manually.
>
> The latest country file is always here:
>
>http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip
>
> I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've
> blocked the directory listing.
>
> If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support
> this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your
> operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.
>
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread Alan Walters via DX4WIN
No, those of us which choose to run obsolete systems, pay the money to run 
strong anti-virus and anti-malware, dedicate our PC's to our ham radio setup 
and turn them off when not in use.

Al -- K5NOF

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of John Shaw
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 7:29 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

So how does that affect security for all of this.  Have we now all been put at 
more risk to satisfy those who want to run obsolete systems?

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of Paul Van Der Eijk
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2018 12:04 p.m.
To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website such 
that the files directory no longer requires an https connection. —Paul, KK4HD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:
>> 
>> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host 
>> the actual files on a different website without https and work up a 
>> manual process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting 
>> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).
> 
> Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my 
> website.  They would have to be installed manually.
> 
> The latest country file is always here:
> 
>http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip
> 
> I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've 
> blocked the directory listing.
> 
> If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support 
> this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your 
> operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.
> 
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread R.T.Liddy
I've tried it and IT WORKS!!
Thanks to all of you that helped fix this issue on our behalf!
73,   Bob  K8BL

  From: Paul Van Der Eijk 
 To: Jim Reisert AD1C  
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
 Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
   
XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website such 
that the files directory no longer requires an https connection. —Paul, KK4HD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:
>> 
>> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host the
>> actual files on a different website without https and work up a manual
>> process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting
>> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).
> 
> Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my
> website.  They would have to be installed manually.
> 
> The latest country file is always here:
> 
>    http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip
> 
> I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've
> blocked the directory listing.
> 
> If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support
> this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your
> operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.
> 
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread John Shaw
So how does that affect security for all of this.  Have we now all been put at 
more risk to satisfy those who want to run obsolete systems?

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of Paul Van Der Eijk
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2018 12:04 p.m.
To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website such 
that the files directory no longer requires an https connection. —Paul, KK4HD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:
>> 
>> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host 
>> the actual files on a different website without https and work up a 
>> manual process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting 
>> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).
> 
> Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my 
> website.  They would have to be installed manually.
> 
> The latest country file is always here:
> 
>http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip
> 
> I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've 
> blocked the directory listing.
> 
> If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support 
> this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your 
> operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.
> 
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread Ed Stratton
*ALL,* I just did the help file update, and it works now.

Thanks for listening to the user community.

73s,

Ed

w1zz

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Paul Van Der Eijk 
wrote:

> XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website
> such that the files directory no longer requires an https connection.
> —Paul, KK4HD
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:
> >>
> >> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host the
> >> actual files on a different website without https and work up a manual
> >> process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting
> >> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).
> >
> > Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my
> > website.  They would have to be installed manually.
> >
> > The latest country file is always here:
> >
> >http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip
> >
> > I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've
> > blocked the directory listing.
> >
> > If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support
> > this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your
> > operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.
> >
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread Paul Van Der Eijk
XP users should try the update again ; Scott, KA9FOX, changed the website such 
that the files directory no longer requires an https connection. —Paul, KK4HD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:
>> 
>> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host the
>> actual files on a different website without https and work up a manual
>> process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting
>> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).
> 
> Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my
> website.  They would have to be installed manually.
> 
> The latest country file is always here:
> 
>http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip
> 
> I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've
> blocked the directory listing.
> 
> If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support
> this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your
> operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-04-01 Thread Alan Walters via DX4WIN
Well screw this!  You and Paul have a lot of users still running XP to
include myself.  Makes me glad I held off upgrading to V9..

Al -- K5NOF

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:17 PM
To: David Kozinn, K2DBK
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:

> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host 
> the actual files on a different website without https and work up a 
> manual process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting 
> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).

Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my website.
They would have to be installed manually.

The latest country file is always here:

http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip

I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've blocked
the directory listing.

If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support this
method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your operating system.
Seriously.  I'm not joking.

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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM, David Kozinn K2DBK wrote:

> The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host the
> actual files on a different website without https and work up a manual
> process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting
> son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).

Actually, the country files and award databases are uploaded to my
website.  They would have to be installed manually.

The latest country file is always here:

http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/download9/dx4win9_cty.zip

I have not done anything like this for the custom awards and I've
blocked the directory listing.

If you use these files you are ON YOUR OWN.  I do NOT want to support
this method of updating DX4WIN 9.  I'd rather you upgrade your
operating system.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.

-- 
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread David Kozinn, K2DBK
A little digging shows that this is hosted by qth.com. It might be possible
to have a single website (dx4win.com) not redirected to https, but A) That's
a terrible idea, and B) Sooner or later this is going to become a problem
for almost every website, as https is becoming standard for everyone.

The only short-term workaround that I can think of would be to host the
actual files on a different website without https and work up a manual
process to download and install. (No Jim, I am not suggesting
son-of-dxupdate-for-XP-only).

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Rick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:59 PM
To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
Cc: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C 
wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Ed Stratton W1ZZ wrote:
>
> The DX4WIN website was issued a new security certificate on March 12 
> that is incompatible with Windows XP.  If you try to access the URL:
>
>https://www.dx4win.com/
>
> using Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, which is the latest for Windows 
> XP, that access will fail.
>
> I believe that's correct.  Rick, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>

That's it. Either the March 12th website certificate update caused this, or
whomever is running the dx4win.com website enabled automatic redirection
from http to https.
To support Windows XP, that redirect will need to be turned off.
Unfortunately, this has a security impact for everyone not running Windows
XP.
73,
-Rick
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread R.T.Liddy
Can we XP folks get a path to it that is "non-https" witha caveat that there 
may be security issues? I would certainlytake whatever risk there might be 
rather than have my worldturned upside down as described in my earlier 
sob-story.-- Bob  K8BL

  From: Rick Murphy 
 To: Jim Reisert AD1C  
Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" 
 Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
   
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C 
wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Ed Stratton W1ZZ wrote:
>
> The DX4WIN website was issued a new security certificate on March 12
> that is incompatible with Windows XP.  If you try to access the URL:
>
>    https://www.dx4win.com/
>
> using Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, which is the latest for Windows
> XP, that access will fail.
>
> I believe that's correct.  Rick, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>

That's it. Either the March 12th website certificate update caused this, or
whomever is running the dx4win.com website enabled automatic redirection
from http to https.
To support Windows XP, that redirect will need to be turned off.
Unfortunately, this has a security impact for everyone not running Windows
XP.
73,
    -Rick
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread Rick Murphy
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C 
wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Ed Stratton W1ZZ wrote:
>
> The DX4WIN website was issued a new security certificate on March 12
> that is incompatible with Windows XP.  If you try to access the URL:
>
>https://www.dx4win.com/
>
> using Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, which is the latest for Windows
> XP, that access will fail.
>
> I believe that's correct.  Rick, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>

That's it. Either the March 12th website certificate update caused this, or
whomever is running the dx4win.com website enabled automatic redirection
from http to https.
To support Windows XP, that redirect will need to be turned off.
Unfortunately, this has a security impact for everyone not running Windows
XP.
73,
-Rick
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Ed Stratton W1ZZ wrote:

> Rick thank you for a technical response.   Since you said "The SSL
> certificate for the site was issued 3/12/2018, so that's what caused the
> issue, not some update to DX4WIN." What was / is  different from other
> updates for V9, that worked before this SSL certificate of 3/12/2018?
> Sorry for the BW, but just curious.

Hi Ed,

The updates are tangential to the problem, not the problem itself.

The DX4WIN website was issued a new security certificate on March 12
that is incompatible with Windows XP.  If you try to access the URL:

   https://www.dx4win.com/

using Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, which is the latest for Windows
XP, that access will fail.

I believe that's correct.  Rick, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I have been offered to change the default security for my websites
(*.ad1c.us) from http to https.  That will probably break some folks
which is why I have been holding off.

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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread R.T.Liddy
Rick,

Thanks for the work and bad news!!!  ;-)

Looks like I'll need to get a new Radio Computer
which means I'll need to get a new keying system
since mine works off the Printer port and I'll need
to install a new Contesting Program since mine uses
DOS and I'll need to migrate my files to the new
computer (if they will work there) and I'll need to
re-install DX4WIN on the new computer (if I decide
to stay with it since I'm so p'd-off right now) and
I'll need to get T-QSL working on the new box and
I'll need to modify the mounting for the new computer
since its dimensions will surely be different than now
and I'll need to ... yadda-yadda-yadda ... so many things that I haven't 
even thought of at this point.

At my age and after just moving to a new QTH and having to buy/install
a new tower/antennas, I don't know if all this is really worth it. 57 years
in Ham Radio might be enough.

...time for my nap.

73, Bob  K8BL




From: Rick Murphy 
To: W1ZZ  
Cc: R.T.Liddy ; Ed Stratton ; 
"DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run



It's not antivirus - I copied DX4WIN 9.0.4.1176 on a Windows XP system I use 
for TQSL testing and got the same error:
System error : The host name in the certificate is invalid or does not match

I dug into this as penance for giving an incorrect answer earlier.

The issue is Windows XP - the SSL certificate for DX4WIN is signed with the 
SHA256 algorithm, which Windows XP does not support.
Try opening Internet Explorer and using that to download the .INF file and 
you'll get the same error. You can download the file using Firefox because 
Firefox has it's own built-in cryptographic libraries that aren't stuck in 2010.

The SSL certificate for the site was issued 3/12/2018, so that's what caused 
the issue, not some update to DX4WIN. You can not get website certificates that 
work with Windows XP's crypto libraries because most browsers will reject those 
certificates. You can't run anything new than IE 8 on Windows XP, so there's no 
upgrade available for you.

There's not a lot of choices here.
First, DX4WIN could change their website to not automatically redirect 
http://dx4win.com/ to https://dx4win.com/ - that would allow the updates to 
work at the cost of compromising the security of everyone not running Windows 
XP.

Second, DX4WIN could change how it's downloading - using something like cURL to 
do the downloads (that's what a do for TQSL so Windows 2000 and Windows XP can 
work) rather than the built-in Windows libraries.


Probably the only simple fix is turning https off, which is horrible. Everyone 
not running XP being held hostage to the XP systems.

There's nothing that you can do to correct this on your end other than an 
upgrade to a supported OS.
73,
-Rick



On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:21 PM, W1ZZ via DX4WIN  
wrote:

XP is not the problem as the v9 updater worked before several times. And I can 
get to the .inf file opened with Firefox 
>
>
>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>
>On Friday, March 30, 2018, 10:07 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:
>
>Maybe if we could get the previous version of the Data Updaterthat DID  run, 
>then we could continue with our XP systems?Otherwise, we'll have to buy new 
>computers merely to run ourLogging Program?  That doesn't seem 
>practical/sensible.Everything worked fine on 1/31, which was the last timeI 
>used the Data Updater. How can we go back to that?
>Bob  K8BL
>
>  From: Ed Stratton 
> To: R.T.Liddy 
>Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" ; Jim Reisert AD1C 
>
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
> 
>All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater before, 
>and it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""
>
>What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3
>
>Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,  
>
>What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE  OPENS 
>UP OK., even while running AVG Antivirus.
>
>http://www.dx4win.com/files/ updatesv9/update.INF
>
>.
>
>[update]
>unconditional=1
>descr=My update description
>[files]
>count=15
>[file1]
>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
>localversion=custawds.txt
>targetdir={app}\save
>descr=Custom Awards Database
>newchecksum=-1437156677
>filesize=13897301
>[file2]
>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
>localversion=awdmap.txt
>targetdir={app}\save
>descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
>newchecksum=-993615836
>filesize=15762
>[file3]
>url=http://ww

Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread Ed Stratton
Rick thank you for a technical response.   Since you said "The SSL
certificate for the site was issued 3/12/2018, so that's what caused the
issue, not some update to DX4WIN." What was / is  different from other
updates for V9, that worked before this SSL certificate of 3/12/2018?
Sorry for the BW, but just curious.



thank you..  /w1zz

ed


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On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Rick Murphy  wrote:

> It's not antivirus - I copied DX4WIN 9.0.4.1176 on a Windows XP system I
> use for TQSL testing and got the same error:
> System error : The host name in the certificate is invalid or does not
> match
>
> I dug into this as penance for giving an incorrect answer earlier.
>
> The issue is Windows XP - the SSL certificate for DX4WIN is signed with
> the SHA256 algorithm, which Windows XP does not support.
> Try opening Internet Explorer and using that to download the .INF file and
> you'll get the same error. You can download the file using Firefox because
> Firefox has it's own built-in cryptographic libraries that aren't stuck in
> 2010.
>
> The SSL certificate for the site was issued 3/12/2018, so that's what
> caused the issue, not some update to DX4WIN. You can not get website
> certificates that work with Windows XP's crypto libraries because most
> browsers will reject those certificates. You can't run anything new than IE
> 8 on Windows XP, so there's no upgrade available for you.
>
> There's not a lot of choices here.
> First, DX4WIN could change their website to not automatically redirect
> http://dx4win.com/ to https://dx4win.com/ - that would allow the updates
> to work at the cost of compromising the security of everyone not running
> Windows XP.
>
> Second, DX4WIN could change how it's downloading - using something like
> cURL to do the downloads (that's what a do for TQSL so Windows 2000 and
> Windows XP can work) rather than the built-in Windows libraries.
>
> Probably the only simple fix is turning https off, which is horrible.
> Everyone not running XP being held hostage to the XP systems.
>
> There's nothing that you can do to correct this on your end other than an
> upgrade to a supported OS.
> 73,
> -Rick
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:21 PM, W1ZZ via DX4WIN 
> wrote:
>
>> XP is not the problem as the v9 updater worked before several times. And
>> I can get to the .inf file opened with Firefox
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 30, 2018, 10:07 PM, R.T.Liddy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe if we could get the previous version of the Data Updaterthat DID
>> run, then we could continue with our XP systems?Otherwise, we'll have to
>> buy new computers merely to run ourLogging Program?  That doesn't seem
>> practical/sensible.Everything worked fine on 1/31, which was the last timeI
>> used the Data Updater. How can we go back to that?
>> Bob  K8BL
>>
>>   From: Ed Stratton 
>>  To: R.T.Liddy 
>> Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" ; Jim Reisert AD1C <
>> jjreis...@alum.mit.edu>
>>  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:06 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
>>
>> All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater
>> before, and it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""
>>
>> What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3
>>
>> Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,
>>
>> What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE
>> OPENS UP OK., even while running AVG Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.dx4win.com/files/ updatesv9/update.INF
>>
>> .
>>
>> [update]
>> unconditional=1
>> descr=My update description
>> [files]
>> count=15
>> [file1]
>> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
>> localversion=custawds.txt
>> targetdir={app}\save
>> descr=Custom Awards Database
>> newchecksum=-1437156677
>> filesize=13897301
>> [file2]
>> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
>> localversion=awdmap.txt
>> targetdir={app}\save
>> descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
>> newchecksum=-993615836
>> filesize=15762
>> [file3]
>> url=http://w

Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread Rick Murphy
It's not antivirus - I copied DX4WIN 9.0.4.1176 on a Windows XP system I
use for TQSL testing and got the same error:
System error : The host name in the certificate is invalid or does not match

I dug into this as penance for giving an incorrect answer earlier.

The issue is Windows XP - the SSL certificate for DX4WIN is signed with the
SHA256 algorithm, which Windows XP does not support.
Try opening Internet Explorer and using that to download the .INF file and
you'll get the same error. You can download the file using Firefox because
Firefox has it's own built-in cryptographic libraries that aren't stuck in
2010.

The SSL certificate for the site was issued 3/12/2018, so that's what
caused the issue, not some update to DX4WIN. You can not get website
certificates that work with Windows XP's crypto libraries because most
browsers will reject those certificates. You can't run anything new than IE
8 on Windows XP, so there's no upgrade available for you.

There's not a lot of choices here.
First, DX4WIN could change their website to not automatically redirect
http://dx4win.com/ to https://dx4win.com/ - that would allow the updates to
work at the cost of compromising the security of everyone not running
Windows XP.

Second, DX4WIN could change how it's downloading - using something like
cURL to do the downloads (that's what a do for TQSL so Windows 2000 and
Windows XP can work) rather than the built-in Windows libraries.

Probably the only simple fix is turning https off, which is horrible.
Everyone not running XP being held hostage to the XP systems.

There's nothing that you can do to correct this on your end other than an
upgrade to a supported OS.
73,
-Rick


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:21 PM, W1ZZ via DX4WIN 
wrote:

> XP is not the problem as the v9 updater worked before several times. And I
> can get to the .inf file opened with Firefox
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Friday, March 30, 2018, 10:07 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:
>
> Maybe if we could get the previous version of the Data Updaterthat DID
> run, then we could continue with our XP systems?Otherwise, we'll have to
> buy new computers merely to run ourLogging Program?  That doesn't seem
> practical/sensible.Everything worked fine on 1/31, which was the last timeI
> used the Data Updater. How can we go back to that?
> Bob  K8BL
>
>   From: Ed Stratton 
>  To: R.T.Liddy 
> Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" ; Jim Reisert AD1C <
> jjreis...@alum.mit.edu>
>  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:06 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
>
> All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater
> before, and it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""
>
> What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3
>
> Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,
>
> What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE
> OPENS UP OK., even while running AVG Antivirus.
>
> http://www.dx4win.com/files/ updatesv9/update.INF
>
> .
>
> [update]
> unconditional=1
> descr=My update description
> [files]
> count=15
> [file1]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
> localversion=custawds.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Custom Awards Database
> newchecksum=-1437156677
> filesize=13897301
> [file2]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
> localversion=awdmap.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
> newchecksum=-993615836
> filesize=15762
> [file3]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/islands.txt
> localversion=islands.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=IOTA Island names
> newchecksum=989685161
> filesize=324070
> [file4]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/prf2iota.txt
> localversion=prf2iota.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=IOTAs by prefix
> newchecksum=-424668373
> filesize=12091
> [file5]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/clusters.txt
> localversion=clusters.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=List of DX Clusters
> newchecksum=1262121802
> filesize=27383
> [file6]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/mstrcals.dat
> localversion=mstrcals.dat
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Master List of Callsigns
> newchecksum=-1638384776
> filesize=1056379
> [file7]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/members.dat
> localversion=members.dat
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Various Membership Lists for Packet
> newchecksum=-1390689521
> filesize=1500283
> [file8]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/wpxdeltd.txt
> localversion=wpxdeltd.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=List of deleted WPX p

Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread R.T.Liddy
Ed, et al:

There must have been an "update" after 2/1
since everything worked FB before then and
now it's broken.

What now???

Bob  K8BL

From: Ed Stratton 
To: W1ZZ  
Cc: R.T.Liddy ; "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" 

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run



This is not a XP issue, it is a Paul issue at DX4Win to fix.   If you can open 
the www URL at listed, then there is nothing wrong with XP.  As an aside I can 
update N1MM+ with no issues. And load new versions of WSJT without any problems.

w1zz

ed



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On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:21 AM, W1ZZ  wrote:

XP is not the problem as the v9 updater worked before several times. And I can 
get to the .inf file opened with Firefox 
>
>
>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>On Friday, March 30, 2018, 10:07 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:
>Maybe if we could get the previous version of the Data Updaterthat DID  run, 
>then we could continue with our XP systems?Otherwise, we'll have to buy new 
>computers merely to run ourLogging Program?  That doesn't seem 
>practical/sensible.Everything worked fine on 1/31, which was the last timeI 
>used the Data Updater. How can we go back to that?
>>Bob  K8BL
>>
>>  From: Ed Stratton 
>>
>>To: R.T.Liddy  
>>Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" ; Jim Reisert AD1C 
>>
>>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:06 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
>>  
>>All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater before, 
>>and it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""
>>
>>What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3
>>
>>Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,   
>>
>>What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE  OPENS 
>>UP OK., even while running AVG Antivirus. 
>>
>>http://www.dx4win.com/files/ updatesv9/update.INF
>>
>>.
>>
>>[update]
>>unconditional=1
>>descr=My update description
>>[files]
>>count=15
>>[file1]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
>>localversion=custawds.txt
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=Custom Awards Database
>>newchecksum=-1437156677
>>filesize=13897301
>>[file2]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
>>localversion=awdmap.txt
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
>>newchecksum=-993615836
>>filesize=15762
>>[file3]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/islands.txt
>>localversion=islands.txt
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=IOTA Island names
>>newchecksum=989685161
>>filesize=324070
>>[file4]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/prf2iota.txt
>>localversion=prf2iota.txt
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=IOTAs by prefix
>>newchecksum=-424668373
>>filesize=12091
>>[file5]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/clusters.txt
>>localversion=clusters.txt
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=List of DX Clusters
>>newchecksum=1262121802
>>filesize=27383
>>[file6]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/mstrcals.dat
>>localversion=mstrcals.dat
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=Master List of Callsigns
>>newchecksum=-1638384776
>>filesize=1056379
>>[file7]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/members.dat
>>localversion=members.dat
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=Various Membership Lists for Packet
>>newchecksum=-1390689521
>>filesize=1500283
>>[file8]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/wpxdeltd.txt
>>localversion=wpxdeltd.txt
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=List of deleted WPX prefixes
>>newchecksum=124082783
>>filesize=8403
>>[file9]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/Dx4win.exe_NEW
>>localversion=Dx4win.exe
>>targetdir={app}
>>descr=DX4WIN Executable
>>newchecksum=-997195574
>>filesize=4224000
>>[file10]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/calendar.dat
>>localversion=calendar.dat
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=Current Calendar
>>newchecksum=-569660261
>>filesize=7508
>>[file11]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/ignsufs.txt
>>localversion=ignsufs.txt
>>targetdir={app}\save
>>descr=List of ignored suffixes
>>newchecksum=-723677348
>>filesize=1224
>>[file12]
>>url=http://www.dx4win.com/ files/updatesv9/country.dat
>>local

Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-31 Thread Ed Stratton
This is not a XP issue, it is a *Paul issue at DX4Win to fix*.   If you can
open the www URL at listed, then there is nothing wrong with XP.  As an
aside I can update N1MM+ with no issues. And load new versions of WSJT
without any problems.

w1zz

ed

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On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:21 AM, W1ZZ  wrote:

> XP is not the problem as the v9 updater worked before several times. And I
> can get to the .inf file opened with Firefox
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Friday, March 30, 2018, 10:07 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:
>
> Maybe if we could get the previous version of the Data Updaterthat DID
> run, then we could continue with our XP systems?Otherwise, we'll have to
> buy new computers merely to run ourLogging Program?  That doesn't seem
> practical/sensible.Everything worked fine on 1/31, which was the last timeI
> used the Data Updater. How can we go back to that?
> Bob  K8BL
>
>   From: Ed Stratton 
>
> To: R.T.Liddy 
> Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" ; Jim Reisert AD1C <
> jjreis...@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
>
> All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater
> before, and it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""
>
> What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3
>
> Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,
>
> What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE
> OPENS UP OK., even while running AVG Antivirus.
>
> http://www.dx4win.com/files/ updatesv9/update.INF
>
> .
>
> [update]
> unconditional=1
> descr=My update description
> [files]
> count=15
> [file1]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
> localversion=custawds.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Custom Awards Database
> newchecksum=-1437156677
> filesize=13897301
> [file2]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
> localversion=awdmap.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
> newchecksum=-993615836
> filesize=15762
> [file3]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/islands.txt
> localversion=islands.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=IOTA Island names
> newchecksum=989685161
> filesize=324070
> [file4]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/prf2iota.txt
> localversion=prf2iota.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=IOTAs by prefix
> newchecksum=-424668373
> filesize=12091
> [file5]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/clusters.txt
> localversion=clusters.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=List of DX Clusters
> newchecksum=1262121802
> filesize=27383
> [file6]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/mstrcals.dat
> localversion=mstrcals.dat
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Master List of Callsigns
> newchecksum=-1638384776
> filesize=1056379
> [file7]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/members.dat
> localversion=members.dat
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Various Membership Lists for Packet
> newchecksum=-1390689521
> filesize=1500283
> [file8]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/wpxdeltd.txt
> localversion=wpxdeltd.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=List of deleted WPX prefixes
> newchecksum=124082783
> filesize=8403
> [file9]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.exe_NEW
> localversion=Dx4win.exe
> targetdir={app}
> descr=DX4WIN Executable
> newchecksum=-997195574
> filesize=4224000
> [file10]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/calendar.dat
> localversion=calendar.dat
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Current Calendar
> newchecksum=-569660261
> filesize=7508
> [file11]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/ignsufs.txt
> localversion=ignsufs.txt
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=List of ignored suffixes
> newchecksum=-723677348
> filesize=1224
> [file12]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/country.dat
> localversion=country.dat
> targetdir={app}\save
> descr=Country Database
> newchecksum=-1530132890
> filesize=4554975
> [file13]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.chm
> localversion=Dx4win.chm
> targetdir={app}
> descr=Help file
> newchecksum=634149896
> filesize=2185888
> [file14]
> url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/upda

Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-30 Thread W1ZZ via DX4WIN
XP is not the problem as the v9 updater worked before several times. And I can 
get to the .inf file opened with Firefox 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Friday, March 30, 2018, 10:07 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:

Maybe if we could get the previous version of the Data Updaterthat DID  run, 
then we could continue with our XP systems?Otherwise, we'll have to buy new 
computers merely to run ourLogging Program?  That doesn't seem 
practical/sensible.Everything worked fine on 1/31, which was the last timeI 
used the Data Updater. How can we go back to that?
Bob  K8BL

      From: Ed Stratton 
 To: R.T.Liddy  
Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" ; Jim Reisert AD1C 

 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
  
All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater before, and 
it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""

What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3

Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,   

What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE  OPENS UP 
OK., even while running AVG Antivirus. 

http://www.dx4win.com/files/ updatesv9/update.INF

.

[update]
unconditional=1
descr=My update description
[files]
count=15
[file1]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
localversion=custawds.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Custom Awards Database
newchecksum=-1437156677
filesize=13897301
[file2]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
localversion=awdmap.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
newchecksum=-993615836
filesize=15762
[file3]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/islands.txt
localversion=islands.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=IOTA Island names
newchecksum=989685161
filesize=324070
[file4]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/prf2iota.txt
localversion=prf2iota.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=IOTAs by prefix
newchecksum=-424668373
filesize=12091
[file5]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/clusters.txt
localversion=clusters.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of DX Clusters
newchecksum=1262121802
filesize=27383
[file6]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/mstrcals.dat
localversion=mstrcals.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Master List of Callsigns
newchecksum=-1638384776
filesize=1056379
[file7]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/members.dat
localversion=members.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Various Membership Lists for Packet
newchecksum=-1390689521
filesize=1500283
[file8]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/wpxdeltd.txt
localversion=wpxdeltd.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of deleted WPX prefixes
newchecksum=124082783
filesize=8403
[file9]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.exe_NEW
localversion=Dx4win.exe
targetdir={app}
descr=DX4WIN Executable
newchecksum=-997195574
filesize=4224000
[file10]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/calendar.dat
localversion=calendar.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Current Calendar
newchecksum=-569660261
filesize=7508
[file11]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/ignsufs.txt
localversion=ignsufs.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of ignored suffixes
newchecksum=-723677348
filesize=1224
[file12]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/country.dat
localversion=country.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Country Database
newchecksum=-1530132890
filesize=4554975
[file13]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.chm
localversion=Dx4win.chm
targetdir={app}
descr=Help file
newchecksum=634149896
filesize=2185888
[file14]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/HelpFile.pdf
localversion=HelpFile.pdf
targetdir={app}\docs
descr=Help file as pdf
newchecksum=-129400814
filesize=4573593
[file15]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/impexpflt.dat
localversion=impexpflt.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Import Export filters
newchecksum=1898483095
filesize=42408
[application]
appupdate=1
appname=dx4win.exe
silentrestart=1
appcomps=Dx4win.exe_NEW



What can I try now?  

W1ZZ

Ed


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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:53 AM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:

I've been out of town since 2/1/18. When I got home today, I tried to runDX4WIN 
Updater. It appeared to update itself to a new version.
Then, when I tried to run it, it said Version 9.0.4.1176 is not supported bythe 
Updater. It recommended I go to Help and Check for Updates to myDX4WIN. But, I 
got the following message:== 
Start update : Non threaded update ---OS version : 
Windows XPIE version : 8.Compiler : D7Installed IDEs : Start WebUpdate 
process with version : 2.4.1.0Checking for Internet connectionFound open 
Internet connectionDownload : http://www.dx4win.com/files/ 
updatesv9/update.INFSystem error : The host name in the certificate is invalid 
or does not match
Cl

Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-30 Thread R.T.Liddy
Maybe if we could get the previous version of the Data Updaterthat DID  run, 
then we could continue with our XP systems?Otherwise, we'll have to buy new 
computers merely to run ourLogging Program?  That doesn't seem 
practical/sensible.Everything worked fine on 1/31, which was the last timeI 
used the Data Updater. How can we go back to that?
Bob  K8BL

  From: Ed Stratton 
 To: R.T.Liddy  
Cc: "DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net" ; Jim Reisert AD1C 

 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run
   
All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater before, and 
it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""

What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3

Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,   

What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE  OPENS UP 
OK., even while running AVG Antivirus. 

http://www.dx4win.com/files/ updatesv9/update.INF

.

[update]
unconditional=1
descr=My update description
[files]
count=15
[file1]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
localversion=custawds.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Custom Awards Database
newchecksum=-1437156677
filesize=13897301
[file2]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
localversion=awdmap.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
newchecksum=-993615836
filesize=15762
[file3]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/islands.txt
localversion=islands.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=IOTA Island names
newchecksum=989685161
filesize=324070
[file4]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/prf2iota.txt
localversion=prf2iota.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=IOTAs by prefix
newchecksum=-424668373
filesize=12091
[file5]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/clusters.txt
localversion=clusters.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of DX Clusters
newchecksum=1262121802
filesize=27383
[file6]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/mstrcals.dat
localversion=mstrcals.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Master List of Callsigns
newchecksum=-1638384776
filesize=1056379
[file7]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/members.dat
localversion=members.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Various Membership Lists for Packet
newchecksum=-1390689521
filesize=1500283
[file8]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/wpxdeltd.txt
localversion=wpxdeltd.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of deleted WPX prefixes
newchecksum=124082783
filesize=8403
[file9]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.exe_NEW
localversion=Dx4win.exe
targetdir={app}
descr=DX4WIN Executable
newchecksum=-997195574
filesize=4224000
[file10]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/calendar.dat
localversion=calendar.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Current Calendar
newchecksum=-569660261
filesize=7508
[file11]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/ignsufs.txt
localversion=ignsufs.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of ignored suffixes
newchecksum=-723677348
filesize=1224
[file12]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/country.dat
localversion=country.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Country Database
newchecksum=-1530132890
filesize=4554975
[file13]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.chm
localversion=Dx4win.chm
targetdir={app}
descr=Help file
newchecksum=634149896
filesize=2185888
[file14]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/HelpFile.pdf
localversion=HelpFile.pdf
targetdir={app}\docs
descr=Help file as pdf
newchecksum=-129400814
filesize=4573593
[file15]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/impexpflt.dat
localversion=impexpflt.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Import Export filters
newchecksum=1898483095
filesize=42408
[application]
appupdate=1
appname=dx4win.exe
silentrestart=1
appcomps=Dx4win.exe_NEW



What can I try now?  

W1ZZ

Ed


|  | Virus-free. www.avg.com  |


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:53 AM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:

I've been out of town since 2/1/18. When I got home today, I tried to runDX4WIN 
Updater. It appeared to update itself to a new version.
Then, when I tried to run it, it said Version 9.0.4.1176 is not supported bythe 
Updater. It recommended I go to Help and Check for Updates to myDX4WIN. But, I 
got the following message:== 
Start update : Non threaded update ---OS version : 
Windows XPIE version : 8.Compiler : D7Installed IDEs : Start WebUpdate 
process with version : 2.4.1.0Checking for Internet connectionFound open 
Internet connectionDownload : http://www.dx4win.com/files/ 
updatesv9/update.INFSystem error : The host name in the certificate is invalid 
or does not match
Closed Internet connectionClosed Internet connection 
== ==
Updater won't run and Check For Updates also can't update.
HELP!!!
TNX/73,     Bob  K8BL

__
 

Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-30 Thread Ed Stratton
All I have the same problem now too.  I have used the ver 9 updater before,
and it worked ok.  ""Help and Check for Updates""

What operating system?  My computer runs XP professional, Ver 2002, SP3

Have you tried rebooting your computer?  YES,

What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:   THIS FILE
OPENS UP OK., even while running AVG Antivirus.

http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/update.INF

.

[update]
unconditional=1
descr=My update description
[files]
count=15
[file1]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/custawds.txt
localversion=custawds.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Custom Awards Database
newchecksum=-1437156677
filesize=13897301
[file2]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/awdmap.txt
localversion=awdmap.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Maps old Custom Awards to New Awards
newchecksum=-993615836
filesize=15762
[file3]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/islands.txt
localversion=islands.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=IOTA Island names
newchecksum=989685161
filesize=324070
[file4]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/prf2iota.txt
localversion=prf2iota.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=IOTAs by prefix
newchecksum=-424668373
filesize=12091
[file5]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/clusters.txt
localversion=clusters.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of DX Clusters
newchecksum=1262121802
filesize=27383
[file6]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/mstrcals.dat
localversion=mstrcals.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Master List of Callsigns
newchecksum=-1638384776
filesize=1056379
[file7]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/members.dat
localversion=members.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Various Membership Lists for Packet
newchecksum=-1390689521
filesize=1500283
[file8]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/wpxdeltd.txt
localversion=wpxdeltd.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of deleted WPX prefixes
newchecksum=124082783
filesize=8403
[file9]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.exe_NEW
localversion=Dx4win.exe
targetdir={app}
descr=DX4WIN Executable
newchecksum=-997195574
filesize=4224000
[file10]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/calendar.dat
localversion=calendar.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Current Calendar
newchecksum=-569660261
filesize=7508
[file11]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/ignsufs.txt
localversion=ignsufs.txt
targetdir={app}\save
descr=List of ignored suffixes
newchecksum=-723677348
filesize=1224
[file12]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/country.dat
localversion=country.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Country Database
newchecksum=-1530132890
filesize=4554975
[file13]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/Dx4win.chm
localversion=Dx4win.chm
targetdir={app}
descr=Help file
newchecksum=634149896
filesize=2185888
[file14]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/HelpFile.pdf
localversion=HelpFile.pdf
targetdir={app}\docs
descr=Help file as pdf
newchecksum=-129400814
filesize=4573593
[file15]
url=http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/impexpflt.dat
localversion=impexpflt.dat
targetdir={app}\save
descr=Import Export filters
newchecksum=1898483095
filesize=42408
[application]
appupdate=1
appname=dx4win.exe
silentrestart=1
appcomps=Dx4win.exe_NEW




What can I try now?

W1ZZ

Ed


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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:53 AM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:

> I've been out of town since 2/1/18. When I got home today, I tried to
> runDX4WIN Updater. It appeared to update itself to a new version.
> Then, when I tried to run it, it said Version 9.0.4.1176 is not supported
> bythe Updater. It recommended I go to Help and Check for Updates to
> myDX4WIN. But, I got the following message:==
> 
> Start update : Non threaded update ---OS version :
> Windows XPIE version : 8.Compiler : D7Installed IDEs : Start WebUpdate
> process with version : 2.4.1.0Checking for Internet connectionFound open
> Internet connectionDownload : http://www.dx4win.com/files/
> updatesv9/update.INFSystem error : The host name in the certificate is
> invalid or does not match
> Closed Internet connectionClosed Internet connection
> 
> Updater won't run and Check For Updates also can't update.
> HELP!!!
> TNX/73, Bob  K8BL
>
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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-30 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
> ==
>
> Start update : Non threaded update ---
> OS version : Windows XP
> IE version : 8.

If this is correct, then you are running a very old version of
Internet Explorer.

See if you can find Version 10 or Version 11 to update Windows XP.

See if that fixes the problem.

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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-30 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
> But, I got the following message:
> ==
>
> Start update : Non threaded update ---
> OS version : Windows XP
> IE version : 8.
> Compiler : D7
> Installed IDEs :
> Start WebUpdate process with version : 2.4.1.0
> Checking for Internet connection
> Found open Internet connection
> Download : http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/update.INF
> System error : The host name in the certificate is invalid or does not match
>
> Closed Internet connection
> 

What operating system?

Have you tried rebooting your computer?

What happens if you try to open this URL in your browser:

http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/update.INF

Have you or your computer made any changes to any firewall or
anti-virus softwar?

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Re: [Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-29 Thread Rick Murphy
This has been posted multiple times.

To update DX4WIN 9, you use Help/Check For Updates. The DX4WIN updater
should never be used for 9.x or later.
73,
-Rick


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:57 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:

> OOoops Let's try this as plain text!
>
> I've been out of town since 2/1/18. When I got home today, I tried to run
> DX4WIN Updater. It appeared to update itself to a new version.
>
> Then, when I tried to run it, it said Version 9.0.4.1176 is not supported
> by
> the Updater. It recommended I go to Help and Check for Updates to my
> DX4WIN. But, I got the following message:
> ==
>
> Start update : Non threaded update ---
> OS version : Windows XP
> IE version : 8.
> Compiler : D7
> Installed IDEs :
> Start WebUpdate process with version : 2.4.1.0
> Checking for Internet connection
> Found open Internet connection
> Download : http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/update.INF
> System error : The host name in the certificate is invalid or does not
> match
>
> Closed Internet connection
> Closed Internet connection
> 
>
> Updater won't run and Check For Updates also can't update.
>
> HELP!!!
>
> TNX/73, Bob  K8BL
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[Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-29 Thread R.T.Liddy
OOoops Let's try this as plain text!

I've been out of town since 2/1/18. When I got home today, I tried to run 
DX4WIN Updater. It appeared to update itself to a new version. 

Then, when I tried to run it, it said Version 9.0.4.1176 is not supported by 
the Updater. It recommended I go to Help and Check for Updates to my 
DX4WIN. But, I got the following message: 
== 

Start update : Non threaded update --- 
OS version : Windows XP 
IE version : 8. 
Compiler : D7 
Installed IDEs : 
Start WebUpdate process with version : 2.4.1.0 
Checking for Internet connection 
Found open Internet connection 
Download : http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/update.INF 
System error : The host name in the certificate is invalid or does not match 

Closed Internet connection 
Closed Internet connection 
 

Updater won't run and Check For Updates also can't update. 

HELP!!! 

TNX/73, Bob  K8BL
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[Dx4win] Check For Updates Won't Run

2018-03-29 Thread R.T.Liddy
I've been out of town since 2/1/18. When I got home today, I tried to runDX4WIN 
Updater. It appeared to update itself to a new version.
Then, when I tried to run it, it said Version 9.0.4.1176 is not supported bythe 
Updater. It recommended I go to Help and Check for Updates to myDX4WIN. But, I 
got the following message:==
Start update : Non threaded update ---OS version : 
Windows XPIE version : 8.Compiler : D7Installed IDEs : Start WebUpdate 
process with version : 2.4.1.0Checking for Internet connectionFound open 
Internet connectionDownload : 
http://www.dx4win.com/files/updatesv9/update.INFSystem error : The host name in 
the certificate is invalid or does not match
Closed Internet connectionClosed Internet 
connection
Updater won't run and Check For Updates also can't update.
HELP!!!
TNX/73,     Bob  K8BL

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