Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Just some progress

2001-11-28 Thread Michael Pemberton
So does this mean that your gonna end up with something that already exist in my code? You forgetting that the advanced widgets use a combination of simple widgets to work. This means that you are still relying on the user knowing which files are required and what order they must be included

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Questions of Direction

2001-11-28 Thread Henrik Våglin
Ever tried my ccreation.layerpos.js widget. I use it for dynamic layouts like this (inside the head tag): DynAPI.setLibraryPath('dynapi/src/lib/') DynAPI.include('dynapi.api.*'); DynAPI.include('dynapi.event.*'); DynAPI.include('dynapi.gui.label.js'); DynAPI.include('dynapi.gui.loadpanel'); D

[Dynapi-Dev] Just some progress

2001-11-28 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Just wanted to tell you about my widget writing. First of all although some of you who hoped this would bring new widget blood to the dynapi some coder will have to make this at least a little more java like because I decided to go all the way. Already I have written two widgets(this in about 1 ho

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Questions of Direction

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bennett
That sounds great Eytan. I'd say, get a rough frame-work up and running, and the get in touch with Jordi about setting up a CVS branch for this. (If Dan, Jordi, Robert or others feel this is not possible, please say so now) It would be good though, if you designed your widget-pack to work with the

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] keep widgets or not (was Documentation structure candidate (was Dan's widget discussion))

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bennett
- Original Message - From: "Laszlo Teglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If you want you can be in charge of the css. All I ask is that you keep my > class definitions. Feel free to change anything inside the curly brackets. > Also try to stick to the browser friendly color palate. Ok, we'll see

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Do you have always to create the layers, before defining the inline layers?

2001-11-28 Thread Robert Rainwater
You have to include dynapi.ext.inline.js if you want to retrieve inline layers. I'm guessing that the getAll() lines are causing an error which causes the execution to stop. If you include inline.js it should fix the problem. Robert On 11/28/2001, Quang Nguyen wrote: > //This will make all thre

Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Robert Rainwater
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.html Robert On 11/28/2001, Doug Melvin wrote: > Hey Lazlo, chill out dude. > Maybe someone could post a link to each license we can make a better > decision. > - Original Message - > From: "Laszlo Teglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Doug Melvin" <[

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Laszlo Teglas
Am I the only crazy extremist in this joint? If so give me an ultimatum before you start bombing. I do not want to share in the fate of the Taliban. I will surrender and become your POW. At which point further hostile actions will be governed by the Geneva convention, and constitute a war crime, s

[Dynapi-Dev] Do you have always to create the layers, before defining the inline layers?

2001-11-28 Thread Quang Nguyen
//This will make all three layers appear on IE5.5 and NS6.2(winNT) DynAPI.onLoad = function() { myLayer2 = new DynLayer(null,100,100,80,50,'red',true) myLayer2.setHTML("myLayer2") DynAPI.document.addChild(myLayer2) layer1 = this.document.getAll()['layer1']

Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Stephan Tolksdorf
> Hey Lazlo, chill out dude. > Maybe someone could post a link to each license we can make a better > decision. http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.html Stephan PS: I'm still waiting for a response to my question... ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Doug Melvin
Hey Lazlo, chill out dude. Maybe someone could post a link to each license we can make a better decision. - Original Message - From: "Laszlo Teglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Doug Melvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dan Steinman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Laszlo Teglas
Have you read the BSD style license. Have any of you read the license. I hardly think you could have read it and seriously contemplated it in the short amount of time this has been discussed. How can any one second a move as serious as changing the license without, first contemplating it? Changing

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Jeff Greenberg
  Laszlo is certainly correct here. There are a number of other open source projects (Xbasic for instance) that use the LGPL, and that support the release of commercial software that uses the project libraries in the way Laszlo has described. What cannot be done is someone deciding to make their

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Doug Melvin
I second the move to a BSD style license - Original Message - From: "Dan Steinman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues > Thanks for your support Raymond! > > As it stands now y

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Dan's widgets

2001-11-28 Thread Raymond Irving
Dan, It would be nice if you could also give some bonus themes with your commercial widget pack. Probably you need to start a company or hier a graphic artist to create great looking themes for your widgets. You could also sell theme packs (packages of themes with images, colors, etc) so a user c

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Laszlo Teglas
>who owns this ? Dan ? All of us who have a line of code in there ? Nobody at >all ? This is public domain. It belongs to humanity. No one individual can reclaim any line of code they have contributed to this project. People can build their own extensions, their own applications based on DynAPI.

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Raymond Irving
Hello All, Anyone For BSD? This is very important to the commercial community, were we can't distribute application code under LGPL or GPL'd. PLEASE SAY SOMETHING! :`) -- Raymond --- Dan Steinman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly my point. Even though your app has nothing > directly t

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Laszlo Teglas
>As it stands now you won't be able to use the DynAPI for your CD media unless >every line of code in the application is released under the LGPL - which is >likely not possible since it probably includes a lot of other code and >information that can not be publically redistributable. This is simp

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Jordi Ministral
Forget about Dan's widgets: he can do what he wants with them because they are his work. When it comes to the DynAPI as it is now, what includes, what has been done so far and what will be improved in the future needs to be under any license that allows it to be used in commercial software. Ev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Stephan Tolksdorf
Hi Dan, > As it stands now you won't be able to use the DynAPI for your CD media unless every >line of > code in the application is released under the LGPL - which is likely not possible >since it > probably includes a lot of other code and information that can not be publically > redistributab

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Steinman
Exactly my point. Even though your app has nothing directly to do with DynAPI, the act of distributing the dynapi files along with an application forces the whole application ("A work based on the library" from the LGPL) to be LGPL or GPL'd. I'd love to be able to say to you "yes no problem t

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Dan's widgets

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Steinman
Well I can't copyright an idea. Other people can write a button widget that looks the same way that mine does - but my version will most likely be replications of other styles (XP, 95, Java etc). As long as someone doesn't up and lift my code and copies it, I'm fine with it. The value in my

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Raymond Irving
--- Dan Steinman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As it stands now you won't be able to use the DynAPI > for your CD media unless every line of code in the > application is released under the LGPL - which is > likely not possible since it probably includes a lot > of other code and information that c

[Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Steinman
Thanks for your support Raymond! As it stands now you won't be able to use the DynAPI for your CD media unless every line of code in the application is released under the LGPL - which is likely not possible since it probably includes a lot of other code and information that can not be publical

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Documents - Structural Candidate 1

2001-11-28 Thread Raymond Irving
Hello, Maintening a widget pack takes a lot of time and effort, not to mention the documentation. I'm in total agreement with Dan on the subject about commercial widget packs. If we need quality widgets and support why not pay a fee for it! It's very good when you can turn to the developer and re

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Questions of Direction

2001-11-28 Thread Doug Melvin
While where at it, a grid-bag layout manager would be nice.. - Original Message - From: "Laszlo Teglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Questions of Direction > Good Points! > > >Finding a way of developin

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Questions of Direction

2001-11-28 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Inspired by whoever it was who complained about the weight of our widgets instead of making the TComponent pack a translation of our current widgets(quite easy as it is only +- 3 lines of code for each widget). I actually started from scratch so I anyone is interested I'm using my inheritance stuf

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Documentation structure candidate (was Dan's widget discussion)

2001-11-28 Thread Strolia-Davis Christopher Contr MSG MAM
IMHO I think that the widgets that are included provide a good example of how to do widgets, so if you would want to keep them as examples, if nothing else, I think that would provide the reader with some good information. I personally learn best by example, and once I get the basics out of t

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Questions of Direction

2001-11-28 Thread Laszlo Teglas
Good Points! >Finding a way of developing a leaner/more customisable set of widgets is >something that really interests me, same goes for the animation code - but >as things stand at the moment I don't feel confident that anything I could >contribute would actually ever make it into part of the p

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] [ dynapi-Patches-486152 ] fix for IE6 and bgImage null

2001-11-28 Thread Doug Melvin
In what way was fasttreenode not working? Did anyone see this behaviour in IE6 under any other circumstances? I recomended the patch to the group(at work) and now I am getting shit on as they can't find the bug to begin with. > Category: DynAPI 2 Layer > Group: None > Status: Open > Resolution: N

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Scrollbar (or scrollpane) doesn't display in ns6 / bug 423938

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bennett
:o) well spotted! - Original Message - From: "Doug Melvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Scrollbar (or scrollpane) doesn't display in ns6 / bug 423938 > > > > > Its a dynimage problem

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Documentation structure candidate (was Dan's widget discussion)

2001-11-28 Thread Laszlo Teglas
Hello Richard, Thanks for the feed back. I am not hooked on the color scheme I have picked. So I don't mind if we switch back to your colors, or change the font size as you recommended. I didn't really spend to much time on the style sheet. The only reason I have included a css so far, is because

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Scrollbar (or scrollpane) doesn't display in ns6 / bug 423938

2001-11-28 Thread Doug Melvin
> Its a dynimage problem. Its not setting the correct width and height > of the images. DynImage needs to be rewritten badly. I don't know about therest of you,but wouldn't be better if it were rewritten well? :-) ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMA

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Scrollbar (or scrollpane) doesn't display in ns6 / bug 423938

2001-11-28 Thread Robert Rainwater
Its a dynimage problem. Its not setting the correct width and height of the images. DynImage needs to be rewritten badly. Robert On 11/28/2001, Alain AITOULHA wrote: > Hello, > If you try dynapi/examples/dynapi.gui.scrollbar.html > in netscape 6.2, you can see that scrollbars are not > display

[Dynapi-Dev] Scrollbar (or scrollpane) doesn't display in ns6 / bug 423938

2001-11-28 Thread Alain AITOULHA
Hello, If you try dynapi/examples/dynapi.gui.scrollbar.html in netscape 6.2, you can see that scrollbars are not displayed. I see the problem in the bug 423938 (14/05/2001). With a refresh, the problem still appear. Do you have any suggestion or correction for this problem ? Thanks for your respon

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Dan's widgets (was DynAPI Documents - Structural Candidate 1)

2001-11-28 Thread Henrik Våglin
How about opening a second project - DynAPI Widgets - like many other projects have when they become large and well established? Just a thought though... BTW I'm working on my Comic Creation community for real now (using PostNuke CMS/Weblog) and will probably be updating and working out some n

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] moving empty layers in IE

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bennett
Yeah, we really need to check for instances of background-images in moving layers, and remove them. I'll do it as soon as I have a moments time. (I want to test any changes thoroughly now, to avoid errors like in v2.5.6) cheers, Richard. - Original Message - From: "Colin Thompson" <[EMA

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] problem with DynLayer.specificRemove and viewport

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bennett
Yeah, this behavior seem by design, but I was wondering about it too, doesn't seem logical. Maybe it was for memory-leak reasons, but otherwise it would be much better that a layer could be re-used. Can we look into changing this, or not? Cheers, Richard. - Original Message - From: "Col

[Dynapi-Dev] Dan's widgets (was DynAPI Documents - Structural Candidate 1)

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi, Dan, great news that you're putting a commercial widget-pack on the market, and nice that it's free for personal use. It's this kind of approach that will allow dynAPI to be used by people who are less acquainted with the inner-workings of DynAPI. Only problem I see, is how to avoid discussio

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Documentation structure candidate (was Dan's widget discussion)

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi Ok Laszlo, a few comments on the documentation proposal: The basic layout scheme seems good. I guess some of the parts will change as they are filled in, but this offers an idea of what still needs to be done. I'm not so keen on the color choices, I can not really read the red on orange text,