Hi,
My E-gold account was hacked and all the E-gold taken !
that sucks ass that that happened, but it's unlikely your account was
hacked, Lim.
if your account was hacked, that would suggest that someone
actually hacked in to, broke into, the e-gold servers, and stole your
money.
if that
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/61
looks like a weak turn around signal to me, what do you say Bob?
That would suggest the price will start heading UP when the market
opens in a few hours - let's see.
I URGE everyont to read Bob Nugent's column this week:
Hi,
I used at least 15 chars for my password. All my password are unique. The
E-Qold.com is not working. Not even my wife knows the password I used. It
is never stored online nor offline. It is only in my head. And I don't
joint any of those fly by night HYIP program and has never given my
Two more bars entered on a Sunday night... Who's buying all this gold?
What's an equivalent dollar figure for all these recent bars, guys??
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What's an equivalent dollar figure for all these recent bars, guys??
A 400 oz. gold bar is currently worth US$106,800.
So the 10 bars that have been bailed in in the past 5 days have a value of
over $1 million. The total e-gold reserve has increased by ~9%.
that's a lot of inXchange!
It's
Did you know that all the gold mined since mankind hold in a cube
that has only 19 meters on its sides?
don't forget though, that is 19x19x19 = 7000 cubic meters.
Really big dump trucks (picture a NY city trash truck, say) only hold
a few cubic meters of stuff.
I'd heard that (I think
I myself had largely fogotten about FunBonds, which are an amazing
thing the TGC people had us program.
Basically, you are betting on rising number of hands played per day
at the gold casino.
Now, my programmers can look at the TGC database from time to time
when maintaining it or adding to
At 10:39 PM -0400 6/4/01, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote:
Gold specific gravity is 19.3 ton per cubic meter
Fantastic!
So if you filled your 1-ton chevy pick up truck with gold, instead of
dirt, the load WOULD WIEGH AROUND TWENTY OR THIRTY TONS
(Compare a half ton or so for dirt)
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yeah, here's the whole thing!
http://www.systemics.com/legal/affidavit.txt
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IN THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SUPREME COURT
|REGISTRAR's|
IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE |
OFFICE
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ANGUILLA CIRCUIT
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how do I get some of this gold?
Exactly like everybody can get e-gold.
Either
a) Do an exchange with a MM, exchange provider, etc... who will take your
paper, or plastic, money and give you gold.
Tril has a nice directory @ http://tril.tunes.org/e-gold/links.html
Yes, I've done quite well with funbonds over the last year. They're
especially good to stop you gambling all your money away at one, as
they pay you a return every 24 hours for 10 days.
Ben, how often do you find you win, overall, on a given bond?
3 out of 4 times .. less than that? almost
Hello Everyone,
Has everyone gotten satisfaction from Heap of Gold regarding
the security breach at E-gold / Omnipay ?
I can't recommend them until this is 100% resolved.
Steven
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The E-Gold system has suffered a security breach of their system.
This is utter,
that's astounding! good one.
Dear member list,
I have good news for you interested to take holidays in
LOMBOK ISLAND. Now Sani Holidays achivee e-gold as payment.
Please read the following lines for reference.
regards,
m.khairul bahri
http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/kiki_table.cfm?cfid=74287cftoken=12014
719pid=1531
those boys accept e-gold ... 321005 ... send 'em a few centigrams!
JP
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More and more, I think the world should just turn off javascript
Viking, is there a way for a site to refuse service UNLESS you have
js turned off?
Example, I am jpgold.com
You come to my site -- IF your browser has javascript running, my
site recognizes that and tells you cannot log into
looks like a FLAG, it will explode either upwards or downwards soon
my guess, up!
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Read _Aint nobody's business if you do_, a great book!
http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/
Free online, with the author's consent.
the poor bastard having been killed by the government recently.
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Hell, serfs didn't have as much taken from them as Americans do now.
However, Heritage's index is not the only one out there. I forget
who puts out the other one.
Serfs also didn't have anywhere near the amount of wealth the average
(and poor) Americans do today. So, I guess one way of looking
Do you really think that slavery produces wealth?
Yeah, but not for the slaves.
I used my words carefully.
I know. I was just playing around.
While slave labor may produce some wealth which some slave holders may well
acquire
If a slave holder has a lot of slaves, it is a very
Unfree Americans may be wealthier than serfs but it does not follow that
the wealth is a consequence of our lack of freedom. Do you really think
that slavery produces wealth?
I never said that wealth is a consequence of our lack of freedom. (I
say our because freedom is really a state of mind;
http://coconutgold.com/mayscale.html
I have added some commetary (in GREEN .. scroll down a page) that
people may be interested to read.
e-gold holding steady at 3 !!! :)
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Hola,
some clever person on this list explained the process of making good
FAKE gold bars.
(ie, instead of using just lead, you would use some element (rhodium?
berillyium? I forget) and so on and coat it in a certain way and so
on)
The clever person included all the physical numbers
What a great donation!
Anyone who did not donate is a BASTARD!!
Donate now!
Hi
I just want to say thank you to the person who donated $500 USD in E-Gold to
the Charlotte Speddy appeal, your genorosity is greatly appreciated and may
this persons kindness put those of you who have donated zero
The key word here is willing. If technology produces convenience at the
expense of liberty, then the average joe is *willing* to sacrifice a
little liberty for a little convenience.
the two things are mutually exclusive and not related.
Technology, ie human invention, never reduces
thank you ...
some clever person on this list explained the process of making good
FAKE gold bars.
That would be me...
Here are the originals...
http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg01478.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg01879.html
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/61
I must say I have never been more correct with a chart call.
2-3 hours before the trading day opened I told ya' there'd be a spike.
No credit to me - the credit goes to the fact that it's all in the
charts and if you can observe a few simple
Kitco.com says Invest in Rhodium, because its price may rise:
http://www.kitco.com/charts/rhodium.html
Did e-gold Ltd. ever consider adding this metal to their reserve? (i.e.
e-rhodium)
Would anyone of you fund an account with e-rhodium if it were available?
That stuff is hard to store!
I suggest the e-gold list is probably NOT the place for a long
discussion of political matters!
I'm an offender, let us keep it to pithy comments so Jim doesn't have
to bring down the email list police on us :)
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Re the US tax snicker cut snicker.
US taxes were 28%. The Golf War came along and they were raised for
emergency reasons to higher levels, and have gone up since.
We assume that one of these days the Golf War Emergency will be over,
and the tax rate will be returned to 28%.
Then, they can
Yes that's true, but it applies equally to money orders. I used to run a =
mail order business and have taken tens of thousands of UK personal =
checks and I never once had anyone try that. Credit and debit cards, on =
the other hand, gave us chargeback problems all the time.=20
However, a
My entire balance was taken on a spend to goldmine on
June 9. Problem is, I didn't do the spend, never heard of
goldmine and have NEVER, absolutely NEVER told anyone
my passphrase. EVER. NOBODY!
A common con is that you are asked for a password on another site,
and then you unthinkingly USE
Now here's an on-topic post.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is like global warming, it's just completely and totally and
utterly non-sensical on numerous different levels, makes no sense at
all, in any way.
Please explain? I know GW is pretty doubtful and the earth bounces
around temperature
Thus, just some examples below of how totally and utterly ridiculous
global warming is. ANY of these items, taken on their own, utterly
[E-gold related discussion a bit further on in this post]
I think there are many sides to the global warming argument, people
should go out and inform
Gold passed it's test today:
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/81
and how! it appears to be making ANOTHER flag, rather making a channel.
Perhaps it will go flag-spike-flag-spike-flag-spike ? Nail-biting stuff.
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/61
nem didn't had a test to
sorry for ranting about global warming! :)
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1. E-gold can add digital certificate support to their web site. The
cryptographic authentication procedure requires the would-be hacker to steal
a secret key AND a passphrase. This is at least one order of magnitude more
difficult for the hacker, which means we should see a one order of
At 7:03 PM -0400 6/13/01, Bob wrote:
A quick update on the status of Systemics' legal tussle with
the e-gold group.
Today we filed against the injunction; we have to wait and
see what the judge says on Friday.
I can't comment on anything much except the documents that
are filed in
Just heard on the news. On averege
*ONE PERCENT*
of the recommendations made by Wall St. analysts is correct in direction.
Idiots. What a farse.
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As Bob called it, another big test coming in tomorrow's trading.
MAJOR HISTORY could be made.
IF gold goes down through that channel tomorrow, the price is fucked
and it will go down to 200 over the next few weeks. (It will beat the
lows of
Here's the moral solution: Inform people about basic password security,
encourage them to take personal responsibility for their own affairs,
_expect_ them to take personal responsibility for their own affairs, and
when they don't, feel sorry for them but hope they learned and don't pretend
it's
What would really help is a breakdown of daily spends by value, especially
the value spent in transaction worth less than US$50 and the number os
spends greater than US$50 worth to calculate transaction fee revenue.
Everyone, altogether now,
e-gold, supply a breakdown of daily spends
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,44507,00.html
Digging Those Digicash Blues
By Declan McCullagh
2:00 a.m. June 14, 2001 PDT
The article is primarily about bearer monies, but in passing it SLAGS
e-gold (the ultimate e-gold insult -- mentioned with beenz!) and
somewhat puffs-up (lol)
I have important news!
I've been recently notified by a kind member of this list which is a
physicist with deep knowledge of probability calculus (Mr. Craig Spencer),
one smart bloke!
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I then found a slightly unpleasent surprise, precious metals in Australia
are now only GST exempt in they are coins or have the '' stamped on
them, so instead of paying 1% over spot I got lumped with a 10% tax on
top.
Right. I paid GST on a damn natural gold NUGGET! But not on a
kangaroo
It looks like gold will close down today. Good!
The odds of the up trend continueing are better now.
I didn't want to see 4 up days in a row.
bob
Right, it seems to have popped down through the bottom of the
channel, but not that much. Tough one! My gut instinct is up, since
it broke
this is great ... but I've forgotten where we can find Freematt online?
Isn't it amazingfactdaily.com or some such?
Thanks!
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The eCTA has been given the support of goldmoney, osgold and Standard
Reserve
So the eCTA has the support of a new-comer psuedo-GBC (150% backed, of
which only 50% is gold) that offers guaranteed HYIPs, but not the support
of a true GBC that has been active for 5 years. How is this supposed to
I've probably asked this before; sorry - who out there generally
swaps goldgrams to e-gold? And what r Ur rates?
talking kilo quantities.
Thanks again!
JP
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Again, I think while many armchair criticisms can be made of the eCTA
(which hasn't even had a chance to start up yet, for goodness sake),
at least it's out there and it's a great beginning.
Three cheers for the huge time money effort involved.
Most stronger associations historically started
Bob's column celebrates six months on Bananagold
http://www.bananagold.com/bob.html with today's issue
Keep up with the technical side of the gold and currency markets with Bob.
Also, be sure to spend ALL your e-gold at Bananagold. Even if you
don't need anything from Amazon (books, DVDs,
electricity price controls in California??? a second Carter-era on the way?
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Yep!
When Dubya was running for office I had a strong feeling that he would take
a sharp turn to the left once elected. I even told one of his gushing
supporters, Read my lips: Like father, like son.
An excellent point.
It sucks to be right all the time.
Just wait until he raises the top
Yeah, yeah, I know, but this really sticks in my craw, and I'm not even sure
where exactly one's craw is.
http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200107033.shtml
remarkable -- everyone read it
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Does anyone have any insight into what is going on?
Is there some new scam churning e-gold around?
http://www.geocities.com/TheGoldMachine/index.html
might be the reason for the dramatic spike in spends.
fascinating stuff .. (and here's me thinking there were no guaranteed
investments)
http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200107033.shtml
I read it, and found it shocking! Especially the part where they train /
indoctrinate their employees with an *angel* wanting to report everyone, and
a *devil* wishing to give the benefit of the doubt! Surely the Christian
thing to do is to
It's disappointing that e-gold doesn't go after these sort of clowns
more aggressively.
Imagine if someone tried that with PayPal?
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Hello,
I want to present you our Services - Goldie-Exchange, Inc.. We provide
Out and In E-gold Exchanges at fair ratios.
For more details - please visit : http://www.goldie-exchange.com
Best Regards,
Johan Larsen
Best of luck!!!
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Eric makes an excellent point. At the very least, ECTA (Eck-tah?)
will at the very least weed out the grossest problems he describes
below.
Go ecktah!
Question -- when does the ecktah web site appear?
Hello,
Is this operation Goldie Exchange for real?
They take credit cards
sideways for awhile ..
http://www.bananagold.com/bob.html
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Osopps offers proven investments (see http://www.osopps.com ). There is no
mention of High Yield investments. Are you saying that it is impossible to
guarantee an investment?
Of course: it is not possible to guarantee any investment...
Eve
Hey you ranters - here's a link to the person who invented the whole
two cents thing!
is that worth two cents??
http://two-cents-worth.com/?241164
Hi Chris,
Why does the target need to be _blank (or blank, depending on which of
the links you used in another of your messages)?
Besides,
Is there a listing for all of these somewhere? I still have a hard time
convincing businesses to take e-gold for my purchases. Pssibly I am
buying
from the wrong companies if thousands are accepting it?
No, I don't know of thousands of businesses accepting e-gold. However, the
point I am
It should attract real businesses, instead of scams
and porn sites!
Exactly.
I don't know how crystal clear it can be:
As an example, which I've explained to Jim:
(1) a real-world major online brokerage approached my company and
said we want to totally adopt this e-gold stuff, it sounds
It's worth remember the straight talk aspect here - until e-gold
sells banner ads on the spend page, e-gold is a joke. ...
Even if E-Gold were to sell ads on the Spend Page, how many could you put
there? A dozen, maybe? How is this beneficial to a currency which grows to
supporting thousands
majorbrokerage.com does not give a flying fuck about putting a banner
ad on golddirectory.com (sorry Bob! :) )
It's Craig.
Sorry! I'd just been writing Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob
in promoting Bobgold .. I mean Bananagold ...
Otherwise, what good is the e-gold webpage, as an
3) they said so, how do we reach these users, where do we buy the
email addresses of all users or advertise to users
(4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users
(5) they said what a fucking stupid conversation this is
This is an amazing thing. Presumably the same brokerage
This isn't related to e-gold, (other than BananaGold.com), but does anyone
see any way out for Amazon.com? They appear to be in a death spiral, from
which there seems no recovery. They're heavily in debt. They're continuing
to lose money. Their source of new equity is drying up.
You sound as if you have made up your mind that any answer anyone provides
will be *wrong*. I understand that you want to put a banner on the spend
page, but banners don't work. They are rarely loaded by the time the human
is ready to move to the next page, and people are conditioned to ignore
Parker Bradley, if you're out there, your email goes in and out!
Sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't! :)
JPee!
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what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue
Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and
correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the
only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold.
No .. no logic
Well, why are there
0
businesses that take e-gold?
Zero businesses that accept e-gold? I can find a couple of hundred.
Craig mate, I mean serious ones. Rather than cottage industry
ones (like my crap ones, like Banana).
(Thats the perfect illustration ... Amazon, no, jp's crap
Yahoo and Double click offer both untargetted, and targetted ads.
Both work perfectly well in their own way. Indeed in the early days,
both those services offered only untargetted ads.
Yeah, and untargeted ads have horrible click-through rates.
What are you referring to? No they don't.
part of that though would stem from the fact that you (banana people)
don't have the overheads in terms of inventory and fulfillment..
Right -- in fact I lied anyway. It is almost inconceivable that
BANANA would recover its development costs, so, its a loser.
I have used banana gold a few
To reach people who have US Dollars:
(i) advertise anywhere, on any medium.
Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be
unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a
market-maker's page.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean there. Someone
I used bananagold to place an order for a cd, the bananagold order went
through in a matter of seconds, it then took Amazon over a week to get the
order packed and shipped and on the status report it said deliver time would
12 to 24 days, it arrived 2 days later!
This proves three things
1.
The only way you can reach people who use e-gold...is on the e-gold
mailing list.
IS there an e-gold mailing list???
Ah - I simply meant THIS MAILING LIST that we are chatting on, man!
The only way to reach egold users for your new egold-related venture:
this mailing list!
Also
be pointless. A bit like playing chess for gold -- against yourself.)
Best,
JPM
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Then create a TV ad, take out full page ads in the major newspapers of the
world, or put banner ads up on DoubleClick/Yahoo/etc. Leave the spend page
clean of advertising.
Ah, Viking --- your (unprecedented) utter lack of logic (you'll be
talking about global warming next!) is now explained
JP wrote:
If anyone knows how to reach e-gold users, simply state it here: 50
kilogram gold reward to anyone who can state how to reach e-gold users.
State it.
Autospend 1 mg to each user in numeric sequence and put your message
in the memo field.
Good idea, but I tried it already.
I used a
On the other hand, making people pay to avoid being spammed by some
official list will just annoy the hell out of them, and make them switch
to GoldMoney.
Being forced to dig around in the acct pages just to turn off that
'convenience' would also annoy the hell out of people. A new user
If you went this route -- to allow 'Spam Spends' -- then a category could be
set-up by E-Gold for such a spend, which WOULD be broadcast simultaneously
to each receiver through their e-mail address, BUT E-Gold would have to
allow each receiver the option of charging a business to send this type
I want e-gold to remain a currency, plain and simple. I don't want them to
turn into some sort of ad house/paid-to-read program. Let e-gold ltd. do
what it does best, be a accounting system for it's private digital
currency.
That's fair enough -- but that means that non-cottage industries
Dave, I appreciate your cogent message.
However, consider this:
Banner ads don't work
I don't agree and many people don't agree. I've found they work very
well. Big businesses can be built around them.
annoying to established accounts.
I'm all for an off switch if anyone doesn't want it.
Because an intelligent discussion doesn't center around people just
screaming YOUR IDEA SUCKS! TPPHHHH!!! - YEAH? WELL, WHAT DO YOU
KNOW? back and forth at each other.
:) fair enough ..
{It seems like a non-starter - we all hate adverts and wish there
were none on TV, magazines or
Sure, you would have no interest in knowing that etrade now take
egold, or that walmart.com now takes egold, or that Sprint just
decided to let you pay by egold.
I, and the rest of the world, would very quickly find out if some
MegaCorp, like Sprint, started accepting e-gold. Do you think
Autospend 1 mg to each user in numeric sequence and put your message
in the memo field.
Good idea, but I tried it already.
I used a pool of known e-gold accounts to test how many people would
read the message. Only one did out of ~ 80 tests.
You asked for a way to reach e-gold users.
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I am just saying there exists no non-cottage-industry EREs.
Hence, e-gold should say since e-gold is currently only used for
HYIPs (let's call a spade a spade) and a couple of novelty sites, and
we really want some non-cottage-industry egold related enterprises,
we
Viking Coder wrote:
[...]Everybody
keeps saying how powerful the gold economy will be several years from now,
and then coming up with schemes to make it pre-maturely happen today.
Agreed, it's a bad idea to rush adoption speed - you need a minimum
number of *working* *trusted* sites taking
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Quite simply, how many people do you think look at those comments?
The answer is a dismal amount .. it's a non starter.
Just like banner adds.
You're confusing look at with do something about.
As I explained in the previous email, everyone looks at them
I dunno if e-gold has considered it but they might want to consider sending
an electronic
newsletter to all its account holders periodically, new businesses could
advertise in the
newletter. It could be as simple as sending the most recent news from the
e-gold News
page. If the newsletter had
Someone (Viking?) was implying that the ADS in magazines SUPPLEMENT
magazines incomes -- ie, mazgines/newspapers get income from the
cover price.
That is not correct (the cover price is all-but irrelevant),
magazines, like all media, are simply things that exist because of
advertising.
Anybody who opened that attachment from David now has a trojan virus on
their system.
I have a Mac, so I for one am unharmed, but david best not ever
meet me or my mates in person.
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Dagny Taggart wrote:
e-gold does not have a patent in anything. So what do
they have to offer?
Defensive patents are there to protect against patent lawsuits, not to
start them. If that's what he's doing, he's only sitting on the patent
as a means to wrangle a ceasefire if some other company
Frankly, the demand for a list of all 280,000 e-gold customers would be a
low quality list even if e-gold did rent it out. Only about 40% of those
accounts actually have money in them, and even fewer have more than $10
worth.
Fascinating, I now know of 3-4 clients that will pay anything (say,
At 7:52 AM -0700 6/26/01, Charles Evans wrote:
Please pardon the impersonality of this message. It is going to
several recipients.
While attending a conference in Scotland, I was served a
15-page civil complaint, initiated by Gold Silver Reserve, this
morning.
They accuse me,
Goldfingercoin.com is launching its new gold currency very soon.
http://www.e-bullion.com/
Gee, it will be funny to see the philosophical debate there about
them not letting trusted, large merchants who want to advertise on
their site to e-bullion users, do so.
(Previous sentence:
I notice that MetalSavings has zero in its account, so that withdrawals are
obviously impossible.
Isn't zero a rather slim reserve? I would have thought twenty to fifty
percent would be more like it.
heh -- you know, there may be a new service, along the lines of metal
savings, coming soon.
i notice Amazon (in a desperate bid to actually make money? :) ) is
offering a lot of FREE shipping lately - example, buy any COMBINATION
of books and music or dvds, and you get free shipping. Take
advantage on bananagold.com.
(All special offers, etc, are automatically passed on to
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