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From: Warren W. Aney a...@coho.net
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
I've weighed in on this before, but this time let me present what may be
an
oversimplification -- to me the defining difference
discussion futile.
Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, Oregon
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From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:landr...@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, 28 January, 2011 20:14
To: Warren W. Aney; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
Ecolog
discussion futile.
Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, Oregon
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From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:landr...@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, 28 January, 2011 20:14
To: Warren W. Aney; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
Ecolog:
In many
jason.hernande...@yahoo.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When do
our interventions cease to be conservation and become gardening?
[[I
Austin,
There are most definitely legal definitions of conservation that preclude
extensive manipulations which I assume to be a central tenet of gardening.
IMHO the goal of conservation and restoration is to preserve a habitat in
the sense that the habitat is the manifestation of a suite of
I would add that gardening is directed toward different goals than
conservation or restoration. The gardener wants to produce beauty, food, or
some other harvestable product. Also, gardening is almost invariably based
on plant varieties that have been in domestication for a long time,
sometimes
: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening? Re: [ECOLOG-L] ECOLOG-L
Digest - 22 Jan 2011 to 23 Jan 2011 (#2011-23)
Each decision about species or habitat intervention is (or should be)
context driven. Generalizations don't hack it in science, and it's high time
journalists gave them up in the popular
Meiss mme...@gmail.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
I would add that gardening is directed toward different goals than
conservation or restoration. The gardener wants to produce beauty, food, or
some
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From: Warren W. Aney a...@coho.net
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
I've weighed in on this before, but this time let me present what may be
an
oversimplification -- to me the defining difference
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When
do
our interventions cease to be conservation and become gardening?
[[I, and perhaps others, may have jumped to conclusions about what you
mean
by conservation and gardening
the questions again.
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From: Jason Hernandez jason.hernande...@yahoo.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When do
our
help us take that step.
Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, OR
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From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:landr...@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2011 17:05
To: Warren W. Aney; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
Well, yes. But I would
, OR
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From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:landr...@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2011 17:05
To: Warren W. Aney; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
Well, yes. But I would suggest even more detail, and hope Aney will expand
his
, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When do our
interventions cease to be conservation and become gardening?
For the sake of argument, I was taking the purist position: that ideally, we
want to be able
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Hernandez
Sent: Monday, 17 January, 2011 17:09
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When do
our interventions cease
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From: Geoffrey Patton gwpatt...@yahoo.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
I like Colleen's point and would like to add that sometimes there is more to
be learned from the hopeless species that might
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When do our
interventions cease to be conservation and become gardening?
For the sake of argument, I was taking
] On Behalf Of Jason Hernandez
Sent: Monday, 17 January, 2011 17:09
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When
do
our interventions cease to be conservation and become gardening
I was just going to release Jason's message on the fertile ground of our
Society news-list, but can't stand not to weigh in.
Dan Janzen's PNAS article, gardenification of tropical conserved
wildlands (probably - I only read the abstract), has it right, but his
position is appicable to the
, OR
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Juan P Alvez
Sent: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011 19:53
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
Ecologers,
Building on Prof. W
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From: Warren W. Aney a...@coho.net
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
Juan Alvez is right about having long term goals but leaves out important
defining adjectives. Ecosystems structures
Jason,
I'm unaware of any clean line between conservation-oriented land management
and gardening with a focus on natives. Honestly, within the context of
conservation activities, I don't see the point in drawing that line. The
relevant question is, are the results of conservation activities
that needs to be preserved?
Colleen Grant
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jason Hernandez jason.hernande...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Jason Hernandez jason.hernande...@yahoo.com
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:08 PM
jason.hernande...@yahoo.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:08:59 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When do our
interventions cease to be conservation and become gardening
IN an economy like that of the US where we spend more on the military than
the next 10 nations combined, and the budget for putting out one fighter jet
exceeds the entire budget of all the environmental and natural resource
agencies combined, one must ask are resources really that limited? Do we
Jason, et al-
The purist position is untenable. If human agency marks the difference
between wild and managed, as soon as we take any action to change (+/-) the
fitness of any population or species we move it from the roster of wild
biota to the roster of managed biota. Even dividing wild from
on and one with this post, I'll stop here for now . . .
WT
- Original Message -
From: Jason Hernandez jason.hernande...@yahoo.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
This question is inspired
: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:24:46
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Reply-To: Colleen Grant psorotham...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Conservation or just gardening?
Jason,
And if a species is beyond saving
This question is inspired by a conversation with a former employer. When do
our interventions cease to be conservation and become gardening?
For the sake of argument, I was taking the purist position: that ideally, we
want to be able to put a fence around a natural area and walk away, letting
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