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Is this so? If so, where is this discussed in more detail?
Why does it have to be discussed in more detail? Conditional
probability is probability.
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ionary differentiable Gaussian
process is another.
This is thrown together off the cuff. There are lots of
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suggest you bring in a good mathematical statistician who
does not just use simple models early in your research.
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this, the K-S test is conservative; that
is, the actual p-value is smaller than you think.
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s is another variable, and it is variable. The only
way you could know the amount of insulin is to use
more complicated tests for it; these are usually not
done, except by medical researchers.
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a p value for that
problem AND THAT SAMPLE SIZE, but the p value to be used
depends quite substantially on the sample size.
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between certain
order statistics, and this would be as claimed for all
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of one in a given situation generally
go with more extreme values of the other in a given
experimental situation. It is not true across situations.
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nce limits for the
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The only reason p values are used as they are is that they have
become religion.
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with additional data.
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intended. I co
l estimate is in the region.
In between, detailed consideration of the prior assumptions
make a difference.
Will
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as the top 10% of the fathers.
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Unless one gets into the assumptions, this is it.
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of data to normality.
However, his discovery of the essential part of what became
the Gauss-Markov Theorem shows that least squares is good
without normality.
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t make school populations even remotely close
to equal.
All of this testing of schools is based on flawed assumptions.
The null hypothesis is always false.
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reading by third
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reading by second grade; if they were not, they did not
get to second grade.
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of the compromise result, which are all
that possibly can be done.
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the errors,
this is very definitely NOT the case; other than linear
programming, I do not know of any approach to even the
non-statistical version of the problem.
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ro. One statistical application
is that, under appropriate conditions, there is a
likelihood ratio.
Any reasonable measure theory book will have this.
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for my Intro class.
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of the minimum being exponential.
One certainly would not want to use the mode for the scale parameter
of an exponential.
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Overall, I suggest that you learn decision theory, and
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gh schools, drastic
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rvations to estimate different covariances,
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anyone wanting to learn good statistics should not even
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anyone wanting to learn
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Nonsense.
Not only is that not nonsense, but it is quite difficult
to ge
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The UK has effective disenfrachisement of most of the
members of its Liberal party. Also, the US was definitely
set up NOT to be "democratic"; the British democracy has
greatly eroded
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ople won in the Bill of
Rights and the Petition of Right. Democracy is two wolves
and a sheep deciding the dinner menu.
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al cartoons in our paper had a
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he precinct. I have used punched card ballots, and
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Does anyone know WHY so many states DON'T DO IT THIS WAY?
Perhaps the Political Science/History folks
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quot;Dead vs. Alive" in the members
of the Donner party. They tested the odds of a woman dying vs. a man.
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All of this must go into the analysis.
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I am a statistically poor researcher and have a statistical problem.
I have two candidate distributions
ly when offered composite bets with known
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ficance levels based on
the normal distribution were wrong when estimated variances
were used. It was widely used before Fisher.
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-randomized procedures which can
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ce usually is unrelated to practice
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I meant to type "practical importance".
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Back in the "old days", the standard text for an undergraduate math stat
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nly apply statistics, the appropriate
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I am sure there is a multitude of possible answers to this one.
One way I would answer it is to say that probability is only applicable
atistician who may not know economics.
I know; I was there.
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This would exclude the application of probability to such
things as nuclear physics. While we have to use
observations to draw inferences, the probabilities of
interest
, it is essentially impossible to get good
results empirically. Only modeling will provide understanding,
and confirmation of the assumptions.
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s not have is unlikely to acquire it from
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No geographer would take the heights of mountains and
convert them to a probability scale.
i beg to differ ... for, it is not totally an uninteresting question that
someone
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prior, and also it is possible to do a good job of
specifying the prior and do very poorly as to the action
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stand Fisher's view of probability.
The only discernable connection between Bayes original work and Fisher's
view of probability is that they are both discussed in Chapter 2 of his
1956 book, "Scientific Inference".
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I will address this point first, as it is equally valid no
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be. The point is that the probability of publication
depends on the p-value. If you
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Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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