No, still the same message. :(
Julian, G4ILO (About to hit the road)
On 26 May 2011 06:38, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote:
Odd - I'm seeing a lot of entries come in fine. The host resolution is part
of the anti-spammer protection.
Give it another try.
73,
There was once some hope the K3 would be able to this, using
transverters. Sigh.
But with something like the Funcube dongle, it's just a matter of
software to support the combination.
73, doug
On 25-May-11 18:44, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote:
yes, the FT-736R, not the number I originally typed.
FRed, I agree with everything you wrote, except I think you'll find CONFIG:TUN
PWR control the power used when you HOLD TUNE - it controls the power used for
'key down' to tune an external ATU.
The KAT3 will use a much lower power than that for it's internal tuner I
believe.
73 de M0XDF, K3
I have recently moved from Eagle to DipTrace. The main reason is
that I find it much easier to create new library elements. Also
you can import Eagle schematics, boards and libraries into
DipTrace.
I brought the 1000 pin 4 layer version for £80. The latest beta
includes 3D visulisation.
Give the
Thank you for this, I see there is a OSX version, I'll give it a try.
73 de M0XDF
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On 25 May 2011, at 23:18, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote:
I would recommend
I'm sure Jim Brown will advise you to read his tutorials, but, basically,
keep rf out of the shack.
73
David
G3UNA
Larry I do RFI engineering. Pacemakers are a lot like avionics relative to
ham
radio. The working spectrums for pacemakers, avionics, and ham radios are
widely
separated by
Same problem here.
Get message
Form Submission Aborted
You're (sic) hostname cannot be resolved from 91.85.178.255.
73
Jim - G3ZQC
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 22:38 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
Odd - I'm seeing a lot of entries come in fine. The host resolution is
part of
Another thing about the K3 ATU is, that it sometimes stops at an LC combination
which is NOT identical to the LC combination giving the lowest SWR. If that
happens you can manually change the L or C to obtain the lowest SWR - but it is
a bit cumbersome - and not what you expect from an
As I recall, the K3 uses a combination of 5w and 10w during the auto tune
routine. This is independent of the TUN:PWR setting. From observation, there is
a fair amount of difference in measured SWR at lower power levels which begins
to stabilize around the 5w level.
73,
Chuck, AA3CS
Sent from
Good Day All,
Same here tried a couple of times to no avail.
Regards
Brendon Tadgell
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There are other considerations to choosing either 1st class mail or
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certain the AF1 will not qualify for the 1/4 inch thickness limit. That
is a post office limit, and has nothing to do with Elecraft. If the
In looking at several HF amps, I notice that PEP and CW are usually of
different levels for a given amp.
For example, THP's HL-1.2 is rated at 750w PEP, 600w CW. Granted, a receiving
station would not notice any difference in a 0.9 dB increase of power on any
mode but I'm wondering how the
Worked fine here.
mike, k5wmg
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
e...@elecraft.com wrote:
Our sign-up form for new KX3 information, ordering notification etc., is
now on the Elecraft web server. See:
http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3signup.htm
We'll have the KX3
I'll check with our ISP when I get into the office later this morning to see
why this is happening. It only seems to be impacting a few addresses - I see
hundreds of good entries received so far from the U.S., Europe and other areas.
73,
Eric
www.elecraft.com
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On May 26, 2011, at 1:07
A quick way to find the best LC combinations manually is to tune them
for maximum receiver noise. You can refine this further by using the
K3's AFV meter to measure the noise level of the different promising
LC combinations.
I have done this on some problem frequencies to improve the match over
On 'problem' frequencies, re-doing the tune soon after the first try has
always brought a better swr for me, but I have no wires amongst branches
which I think means you may be getting hit and miss good tunes.
David
G3UNA
A quick way to find the best LC combinations manually is to tune them
Worked OK for me..
73
K1NR
On Thu, 26 May 2011 02:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
vk8fqrp ta...@me.com wrote:
Good Day All,
Same here tried a couple of times to no avail.
Regards
Brendon Tadgell
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I signed up and it failed my application, complete with the grammatical
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Maybe they don't like foreigners from other than the bottom 48?
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I called the pace maker company. My wife got one and the literature
specified to not be in the strong fields of radio waves including CB and
amateur radio (IMO, the illegal CBers caused most of this interference
nightmare with their illegal power and splattering). My wife freaked out.
The
Eric,
I tried 3-4 times to sign up but got the error massage the same as
others on the list. I wonder if we actually did get through but got the
error message by default!
Put me on the list please!
73's
Vic Tuff
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Works fine in Lancashire :)
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On 26 May 2011 14:39, vtuff59...@aol.com wrote:
Eric,
I tried 3-4 times to sign up but got the error massage the same as
Oops!
should have said 'error message' not massage!
Must have 'stiff fingers' ;-)
73's
Vic
G7PYR
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Eric,
I tried 3-4 times to sign up but got the error massage the same as
others on the
OK,
from my AOL account here in the UK I get the error
So I tried signing up from my Blackberry and it worked?
I guess I'm further down the queue ('line' to our American colleagues) but
I'm in it now ;-)
Hooray!!!
73's
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Tel: +44 (0) 7802 449658
I called the pace maker company. My wife got one and the literature
specified to not be in the strong fields of radio waves including CB and
amateur radio (IMO, the illegal CBers caused most of this interference
nightmare with their illegal power and splattering). My wife freaked out.
The lady
I don't think the problem is due to good tunes being misses by antenna being
hit, because when it happens, it is very reproductive, i.e. you can repeat
the ATU tuning and it will always come back to the non-optimum LC combination.
Paul
OZ4UN
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You can argue about how much it should cost to ship a small item, but only on
the Elecraft Reflector will a complaint get a response from a company principle
within hours to look into the situation. I have had responses from other
companies when I asked for an explanation or remedy that were
I'm having a problem with the sign-up form!!! Where is it
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On 5/26/2011 10:45 AM, Larry wrote:
I'm having a problem with the sign-up form!!! Where is it
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In principle, is it intended that the 60M band could be enabled on the KX3?
73 Chris, MØPSK
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The KPA500 is rated for 500W PEP or CW.
Bob, N6CM
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:50 AM, John Harper j...@ae5x.com wrote:
In looking at several HF amps, I notice that PEP and CW are usually of
different levels for a given amp.
For example, THP's HL-1.2 is rated at 750w PEP, 600w CW. Granted, a
could it be that 750 watts PEP is the same as 600 watts key down
H
Bob K3DJC
On Thu, 26 May 2011 06:50:48 -0500 John Harper j...@ae5x.com writes:
In looking at several HF amps, I notice that PEP and CW are usually
of different levels for a given amp.
For example, THP's HL-1.2 is rated
Howdy Gang:
I built this K1-4 several weeks ago so it is in like-new condition.
Covers 40/30/20/15 meters and has the optional LCD backlight installed.
Will ship CONUS with manual for $380.
73, W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
Well, no.
THP's specs are all confusing because they are very cautious to not
recommend pushing the amplifiers to their limits. They hope that the users
will not push them to the highest level output and thereby minimize the
likelihood of over-driving etc. which if not controlled can lead to
could it be that 750 watts PEP is the same as 600 watts key down
After spending a lot of time looking at solid state amplifier
design the most likely reason for a 750 W PEP/600 W CW specification
is either cooling or power supply limitations.
In practice, if the power supply and cooling can
While it may be capable of hitting 750 watts key down ( and more) isn't it
likely that CW is derated due to duty cycle issues? Probably power supply.
Even if THP is conservative in ratings, there's probably a rational reason
behind the spec as stated.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 26, 2011,
We included 60 m.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
On May 26, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Chris M0PSK wrote:
In principle, is it intended that the 60M band could be enabled on
the KX3?
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Thanks for all the great opinions, experiences and web links.
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Subject: [Elecraft] OT -RFI question
I'm
The cgi script that handles the form and provides the error message is
supplied by our ISP. ( I spell better than that, most of the time! ;-)
We'll be contacting their support group today.
If the form fails, please email us directly with the following format:
To: kx3i...@elecraft.com
The ship date on the external reference board ought to be getting close. I've
already ordered mine, just wondering how much longer till they are out the door?
Jim - W0EB
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In addition, according to the user's manual, the key down time in CW at max
power is ten minutes. I wouldn't want to do that to any of my VHF or UHF
bricks, so it seems to me it's a pretty rugged amp.
73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
On Thu, 26 May 2011 08:09:25 -0700, Robert Friess
Its been shipping for a week or two.
73, Eric
On 5/26/2011 9:03 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
The ship date on the external reference board ought to be getting close.
I've already ordered mine, just wondering how much longer till they are out
the door?
Jim - W0EB
First off, I can symphasize with Doug, as I face unnecessarily high
shipping all the time to Alaska. I'm not speaking about Elecraft's
shipping policy, specifically, as they seem to be fair. My XG3 cost
me $8.64 to ship via USPS Priority Mail.
But recently I bought a 50v PS on ebay that cost
Folks - Let's end this thread. We've taken care of this with the
customer and have also adjusted the web form.
73, Eric
On 5/26/2011 9:32 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
First off, I can symphasize with Doug, as I face unnecessarily high
shipping all the time to Alaska. I'm not speaking about
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I ordered one early last week (as part of another order) and was told by sales
they would not be ready for shipment until this week. I have not yet received
the order, or a shipment notice. I'm sure it will be along, just wanted to
mention what I was told about the external reference kit
Can anyone help or advise please ? I would like to install the MRP 40
program on my shack computer and send and receive CW via an RS232 lead
connected to my K3, but I already use an RS232 lead connected between
the K3 and the controller for my SteppIR antenna. Can anyone advise how
I can
My arrived a few days ago. So they are being shipped.
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On May 26, 2011, at 11:49 AM, bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote:
I ordered one early last week (as part of another order) and was told by
sales they would not be ready for shipment until this week. I have not yet
A PEP rating higher than CW is always going to be heat related. One
should always inquire about the brick-on-key rating, e.g. the CCS or
Continuous Commercial Service rating. For an Alpha 9500 and 8410 it
is 1500 watts. For my 76CA it is 750 watts at the low voltage (CW)
setting. For obvious
Having a lot of water around means that the antenna impedance changes
with the power level. I have seen this many times here on 160 with
wet leaves very close to wires, and sometimes touching. I can watch
the SWR vary under a steady 1500 watts, something not seen or far less
obvious at 5 watts.
Don,
I did extract the old Q7 without any damage or problems.
I was looking at the spec sheet for the 2N3904 after getting your last
suggestion and after ordering the 2N4124 from Elecraft. Do you think the
2n3904 is a superior replacement for the 2n4124? Any reason to suspect it
would not work
At 10:49 AM 5/26/2011 +0100, you wrote:
With great delight over the years, he regularly welcomed visitors to his
lab to listen to what he called his whistlers, the eerie electrical
warbling generated by lightning flashes in Canada's Arctic and that had
Hi,
Just a short line (off
On 5/25/2011 2:01 PM, FRED TOWNSEND wrote:
Pacemakers are a lot like avionics relative to ham
radio. The working spectrums for pacemakers, avionics, and ham radios are
widely
separated by both frequency and function. The probability of their mutual
interaction is very small. Unfortunately
Hi Guys,
I'm operating from a portable location and using a 12-volt automobile
battery with my K3. To keep the battery charged I'm using a Schumacher 15-Amp
Charger/Maintainer that automatically switches to Trickle Charge when the
battery is charged. My concern is that when the charger
Hello
Yes, you should be concerned. Battery chargers are different from PSUs as
they can easily create a high voltage peak which will destroy any
equipment hooked up to it. I highly recommend not to use the battery when
it is on the charger.
73 from LA3CTA, Christoffer
På Thu, 26 May
A trickle charge should not be 16V. How are you measuring this?
--- On Thu, 5/26/11, r...@aol.com r...@aol.com wrote:
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Subject: [Elecraft] Battery Charger Voltage High?
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 11:58 AM
Hi Guys,
I'm
I have found that the best way to make enquiries about orders from Elecraft is
to call or email Elecraft.
73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
On Thu, 26 May 2011 12:49:43 -0400, bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote:
I ordered one early last week (as part of another order) and was told by sales
If the spec sheet on the K3 say's 15V max, then the voltage is too high, no
matter where the voltage comes from...
73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
On Thu, 26 May 2011 13:58:34 EDT, r...@aol.com wrote:
Hi Guys,
I'm operating from a portable location and using a 12-volt automobile
Jerry,
All that transistor has to do is remain in an open state between the
collector and emitter during receive and provide a path to ground
between collector and emitter during transmit. Any transistor that has
a low saturation voltage will serve in that capacity - it is just a
switching
It's measuring 15.7 volts in Trickle Charge on the K3 front panel
display and on Battery Charger's digital readout. When it's charging in
either
the 10 or 15-amp mode then the voltage on both units goes to 16.0 volts.
Dick- K9OM
In a message dated 5/26/2011 1:08:48 P.M. Central
Will the KX-3 be available as a factory assembled rig (KX-3F) or only kit
form? What is the size, cost and weight of the 100 amp? Thanks.
Bob
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This sounds like too small a battery for the given charger. Or too
large a charger for the battery.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:21 PM, n...@n5ge.com wrote:
If the spec sheet on the K3 say's 15V max, then the voltage is too high, no
matter where the voltage comes from...
73,
Tom
Amateur
Dick,
Yes, 16 volts is too high. There is a 15 volt zener diode right at the
DC input of the K3 which should limit the voltage to the K3 at 15 volts
(or until that zener diode is damaged).
The charger may be dropping into the bulk charge output rather than
staying in the trickle charge
Just for a bit of nostalgia, I also had a CK722 (back in the day)
which I paid about $10 for. My 2N107's legs had previously fallen off
and this was what I replaced it with. I still have it so here's a
picture of one of the prettiest transistors ever made sitting on the
screen of a current
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Mike Cox m...@ab9v.us wrote:
...I also had a CK722...here's a picture...
Col! I well remember those little blue gadgets, and the circuits I made
to experiment with them, powered by big fat dry-cell batteries.
Tony KT0NY
Guys
I am new to this reflector; but am already considering quitting.
Having just gotten a K3, I was hoping to see it as a source of useful info
// advice, that I will undoubtedly need in the weeks ahead.
Of course the reflector is for more than just the K3; and I can see the
Euphoria
The transmitting station SAQ in Sweden regularly puts their big transmitter
on the air at 17 kHz. The transmitter is an Alexanderson Alternator - a
fascinating mechanical beast that did an excellent job generating pure CW
back in the days when most stations were running spark. Google will turn up
Bob, K3SRO, asked:
Will the KX-3 be available as a factory assembled rig (KX-3F)
or only kit form?
Both.
What is the size,
Somewhat larger than the KPA100 with heat sink and packaging.
cost
Not yet fully costed out.
and weight of the
100 amp?
Somewhat more than the KPA100.
Better
Fellow Elecrafters:
Does anyone have info on the KX3 roofing filters, i.e. how many can the KX3
contain??? Bandwidths???
Looks like the ultimate portable rig to mesure hope they can keep up with
the expected demand (grin).
73, Joe W2KJ
Something smells... is that your rig burning. Seriously, a battery will act as
a
voltage clamp unless it is open.
Power supplies make good battery chargers but the converse is not true.
Chargers
do not contain filter caps so the voltage can spike, particularly if the
battery
is
Hi Dave,
The rules regarding posting aren't restricted entirely to Elecraft products.
Frankly, there are too many smart people on the reflector to waste their talent
on only one subject.
That said, the Elecraft reflector is my e-mail software's most heavily filtered
folder. I think I
See:
http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3.htm
73, Eric WA6HHQ
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This is a continuing game played with tuners, which for a long time
have given ratings for stand-alone tuners based upon average voice AND
Some tuners don't even stand up to their published ratings at CW duty cycles:
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/qro/review-ldg-at600-autotuner/
Hopefully
Turn off the send email option and just read your topics-of-interest here:
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From the new KX3 web page, the optional roofing filters:
KXFL3 Roofing Filter Module (500/1500/2700/3800 Hz)
The one option gives you all four roofing filters.
Al N1AL
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:01 -0400, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote:
Fellow Elecrafters:
Does anyone have info on the KX3
As far as I'm concerned, what you see is what you get. If Yahoo's span filter
doesn't do it, I have another one located between my ears. I don't see what
all the fuss is.
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Hi Dave,
The rules regarding posting aren't
As noted by several others the pacemaker industry has indeed recognized the
issues surrounding potential interference problems. Most probably remember
the issues with microwave ovens - a problem solved over 30 years ago- but
you still see the warning signs.
In general, the typical ham does not
On 5/26/2011 1:01 PM, Ed, W9EJB wrote:
It was the digital modulation modes that caused some
problems; all of which have been fixed for many years now.
Note that what you're calling digital modulation is 100% amplitude
modulation of a carrier by a series of pulses. For TDMA (time division
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.comwrote:
...a cell phone used by the person wearing pacemaker -- worst case, it's a
1 watt
PEP AM UHF, transmitter...
This is interesting. I thought cellphones used an ADC to convert your audio,
then some sort of FSK to
TDMA (time division multiple access) cell phones share a frequency
channel by transmitting only in certain time slots. The power is pulsed
on and off even though the modulation mode may be constant-power.
Al N1AL
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:19 -0500, Tony Estep wrote:
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at
Ah. Extremely important point. NOT at all apparent from the KX3
page, especially when used to the one filter, one bandwidth paradigm.
As it stands it reads like four available, but only one installable.
On the web page, you may want to change...
Narrow roofing filter option with four
Keep in mind automotive power busses can and do have steady state voltages
over 15V and even 16V when you include allowable ripple. Power busses are
a terrible terrible place.
Assuming the K3 designers' had in mind a car's electrical system, the
choice of the BZW50-15 (in the QRP version) puts
Gavin -
I'm not familiar with MRP 40, but I question that it decodes CW via an RS232
cable.
Maybe an audio cable?
SteppIR sells a Y cable that plugs into the PC and has 2 branches, one of
which
goes to the K3, and the other goes to the SteppIR controller. I have, and use
it.
They also have
On 5/26/2011 1:30 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:
TDMA (time division multiple access) cell phones share a frequency
channel by transmitting only in certain time slots. The power is pulsed
on and off even though the modulation mode may be constant-power.
Yes. For at least one of the commonly used
Is there a way to have the decoded text persist longer on the display?
it returns too quickly to showing vfoB frequency.
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There is a terminal tab on the K3 Utility that might help.
Dick, K6KR
On May 26, 2011, at 13:54, Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net wrote:
Is there a way to have the decoded text persist longer on the display?
it returns too quickly to showing vfoB frequency.
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I agree with Ken Alexander VE3HLS. My mail program has a decent filtering
system. Since this reflector has such diverse topics I have taken the
trouble of making filters for those of special interest to me (conversely
helping me avoid those that are not) which only takes a minute
Elecraft eMail LIST GUIDELINES 2011
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The most important thing to remember is that
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Reading the
Extra nice K2/10, s/n 3925. Has the finger dimple, SSB module and antenna
tuner built by W3FPR, Don, and calibrated and aligned on 3/3/2011. Have
manual, all Don's paper work. $780 shipped USPS East Coast.
Will also trade in part on a K3.
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There is a 'no
Dick == Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net writes:
Dick There is a terminal tab on the K3 Utility that might help.
Dick Dick, K6KR
I thought of that, but it would interfere with the logging program.
Pf
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Tom
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On Thu, 26 May 2011 14:22:16 -0500, John Harper j...@ae5x.com wrote:
This is a continuing game played with tuners, which for a long time
have given ratings for stand-alone tuners based upon average voice AND
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