Perhaps so, Could be an internet thing, it just seemed like my post was
stuck in a cache until approved.
Adrian ... vk4tux
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Moderation
I really
Thanks for the update Paul. Waterfall bias is a welcome addition. I have
noticed some unreported bugs in my system...
The baseline of the pan trace and the baseline of the pan window don't align
properly. The difference is about 1/4 on my SVGA monitor with pan/waterfall
split roughly 50/50, but
Well I could be a bit wet, but definitely not a drain.
Adrian
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Adrain,
Don't you understand that it is a
I do not want bigger then K3 size of K4 based on the same architecture but
K4 of the size of K3 based on SDR architecture would be very interesting.
I would strongly consider KPA 1500 if it would be capable of everything that
Expert 2K-FA can already do plus a bit extra. That is provided the
Whew! Sorry for the cross-post.
I *really* meant to post this sooner:
The Tuscaloosa Amateur Radio Club (TARC) will be operating a Special
Event Station in remembrance of the 44 people that died when an EF-4
tornado struck Tuscaloosa on April 27, 2011.This Special Event Station
will be
I have had my K3 for a couple of months - so I am still learning.
At this point, my primary concern is the amount of background hiss that
I have when no signals are being received. For example: When on 75 this
AM I am listening to a local net. When no one is talking the background
hiss rises.
Bill,
That is the AGC which makes it sound like that. Look at my webpage
article dealing with Noisy K3 to give you some information about how
to adjust the AGC parameters to reduce that effect.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 4/28/2012 9:00 AM, Bill wrote:
I have had my K3 for a couple of months - so I am
Fred,
Do the spurs appear on all bands?
Are the spurs still there if you disconnect the antenna from your K3?
When you tune, does the fequency of each spur change by the same amount as
the change in zero beat frequency due to tuning?
If the spurs disappear, then their source is outside of the
I contacted Elecraft and they determined my KDVR3 was bad. A new one was sent
and I installed it yesterday. DVR now working correctly!
Thanks to Elecraft for excellent support.
Dave
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The. Grand pilgrimage is soon upon us, so a question
Will eric/wayne bring anything to dayton for sale. IE the battery charger for
the KX3.
Will we be able to pre-order the 100amp brick?
Will there be a hospitality suite/get together for us adventurous souls?
Robert
a 'kosher' ham
Sent
A factor here is that every message gets a dual posting on Mailman.QTH.net and
the Yahoo Group. The message must go first to mailman and be processed then
back to Yahoo and be processed. I don't know how long each of these steps take
but being processed by two services and passing through the
Every so often most of us notice a huge delay in seeing posts appear. AFAIK
it has nothing to do with it being approved but has everything to do with
the flow of messages being handled by several servers that must constantly
update each other with the new messages. A glitch in that updating
Hi All,
I am having some difficultly in updating my P3 firmware.P3 Utility
1.12.4.26 is installed but when I check for new Firmware Available I am told
they are:
MCU 01.13
SVGA 01.02
FPGA0 01.02
FPGA1 01.02
FPGA2 01.02
FPGA3 01.02
FPGA4 01.02
And that these are already installed.
At some point there will need to be a K4. I'm sure that Elecraft will keep
improving the
K3 with firmware and hardware upgrades for some time, but one day there will be
enough
improvements possible with newer technology and new ideas that a complete
redesign will be
the best way to incorporate
The isolation between ANT 1 and ANT 2 varies from -76dB at 1.8MHz to -46dB at
50MHz.
This is measured with a signal generator, using the K3 S-meter, with ANT 2,
AUX RF and RX ANT IN terminated in 50 Ohms.
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7509068/ANT1-2_leakage.jpg
The isolation
Hi Adrian,
In general we do not moderate every posting to the Elecraft list for content.
We simply do not have time. Also, new subscribers to the list are not
automatically moderated.
The Elecraft list server (which is provided by qth.net, not Elecraft) will
occasionally hold a posting when
Following my previous message, I thought I would speculate on what a K4 might
be, despite
my complete lack of inside information.
Elecraft understands their market and I think they will keep more or less the
same
physical size and price point as the K3. I also suspect that Wayne will never
with isolation numbers like this perhaps there is hope for
duplex mode, with transmitting on one band with the
subrx enabled and listening on another??
Hopefully!
Mark n2qt
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From: Mark - G4AXX
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:27 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
This official Elecraft list is totally independent of and not connected to the
Yahoo groups. Postings are not linked. The Yahoo K3 and KX3 groups were set up
by others and are not moderated by us.
This list is the primary focus for Elecraft information and discussion. We do
try to read the
Greetings-
Wow, there's almost no info available on KX-3 production. If I had to
theorize:
I imagine that the original board problem was corrected, but that there were
several
other small - mostly software- problems to work out. Being that assembled
units are being shipped,
the board supplier
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (4/29/12) at 1800Z on 14.3035
MHz +/- QRM. I will be the net control station from Oregon. See you there.
73,
Phil, NS7P
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Spectrum trace no longer resets (sags) when VFO A or B is tuned in fixed
tune mode.
This is a BIG improvement. Many thanks on this one.
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As far as the spreadsheet goes, it's heavily biased towards those who ordered
early. There is no way that they are 3/4 of the way through delivering factory
built K3's. They are not even up to 45 minutes after ordering started. No
units were shipped this past week as far as I can tell. No
Dear all is there a eu/Uk Elecraft net. If so what the time and QRG please
Thanks
Tony G0GMS
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And (at least it seems to me) every now and then I'll see the reply
before I see the original message. :)
73
Dave KQ3T
On 4/28/2012 11:00 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
Every so often most of us notice a huge delay in seeing posts appear. AFAIK
it has nothing to do with it being approved but has
Im thinking your assessment is very accurate. So it just means that it sucks
to be me and anyone else waiting for kits Damn, would have been nice to
have the kx3 before i went to dayton... Oh well, ill just have to wait like
everyone else.
73 de VE7QJ
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On 2012-04-28,
Also the vertical cursor does not disappear when the BW is narrowed down to
50 hz when on cw mode. I appreciate that improvement.
Font size set to number 2 looks very nice.
Nice to have more improvements.thanks guys!
Toby W4CAK
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That is news to me, but I'm confident that Eric knows. I suppose that I have
believed that Yahoo Groups was involved because the Elecraft messages come to
me the same way that Yahoo Groups do and the Yahoo server slowing down affects
me because I use Yahoo for an email server. Those of you
As far as I know, and I could be wrong since I have not researched this
recently, Yahoo does not allow that kind of post.
If Elecraft had a Yahoo group account then all of those posts would be under
the login name of Elecraft and not the individual members who posted to
Elecraft. Thus, all
I remember that my Kenwood 850 was quiet like that compared to my Yeasu 990.
Possibly how the agc is handled by Kenwood?
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On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Bill b...@w2blc.net wrote:
I have had my K3 for a couple of months - so I am still learning.
At this point, my primary
Thanks Eric, A concise response from you as always. Now to change subject I
saw your callsign on a Californian D-Star server log some time back, and it
was evident that you have used the mode. I was big on it a few years back
and I still have all the gear. However my participation on D-Star waned
I would like to thank everyone for their input and I have found pressing
copy files from Elecraft did the trick (thanks Dick K6KR for the info) My
problem was I had just updated my P3 and it does not have this button in the
P3 Utility. You are just give the option of Check version now push button
Good afternoon all, I have the battery from Elecraft for my K2 and I charged it
for 16 hours using my Aston RS20M. The voltage reading from the Astron supply
using my Fluke 179 was 13.78 volts and the K2 was reading 13.3 volts. My
question is after the 16 hours of charging with the Astron
Elecraft makes very few mistakes in the first place but when they do the
response is cheerful, immediate and always helpful.
OK so where are the firmware fixes for the K3's CW-in-SSB QSK bug, and the
CW-during-PTT-release bug? Not exactly an immediate response ...
73
Gary ZL2iFB
When I bought my K3/10 (w/sub-Rx) at near $3K I promised my wife this
was the last radio I would buy in my life! So, OK, I lied (fibbed
is nicer) and bought a KX3. But my intention is still the same: the
K3 promised non-obsolescence since it was a SDR in its
heart. Elecraft has more than
I continue to get complaints my mic audio is too low on FM. So today
I ran the mic gain to 60 and they said it only slightly better, so I
advanced deviation to 6.0 which is too wide for normal deviation,
still light audio reports. I have no problem on SSB with my Heil
HM10-5 desk mic set to
See Below...
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:07:41 -0700 (PDT), N8LP n...@telepostinc.com wrote:
The baseline of the pan trace and the baseline of the pan window don't align
properly. The difference is about 1/4 on my SVGA monitor with pan/waterfall
split roughly 50/50, but varies as you change span.
On 04/28/2012 04:01 PM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
[...] If the hardware can be improved
thru upgrades along with firmware improvements I see there being no
reason to abandon the K3 (it will be the K4). [...]
Perusing a hacker site, it seems a group has broken into the Elecraft
inner sanctum and
A completely ubiquitous system that integrates directly into the brain allowing
operators complete freedom to operate locally, remotely and elsewhere hands
free. CW by eye blinking.
Keith
AG6AZ
Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Mike Markowski
Mike,
Your battery is not fully charged 13.3 volts is just not enough to fully
charge the battery.. If you are going to use your power supply to
charge the battery, you will have to increase your power supply voltage
to 14.1 to 14.3 volts - there is a pot inside the Astron.
The battery does
Bob-
In this regard, Tom's list is very misleading. Only a small fraction of
customers have offered to place their orders on Tom's private spreadsheet.
It is really of no value unless you placed an order within the first few
hours of the order page opening up. Even then, you need to know your
Kind of like that famous (infamous?) programming capability:
START
TURN ON ALL DEBUGGING
DO WHAT I'M THINKING
GOTO $TART
Art - N4PJ
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Keith Heimbold ag...@hotmail.com wrote:
A completely ubiquitous system that integrates directly into the brain
allowing
I have a Kenwood TS-590S for a back up to my K3 and it has a noticeably quieter
background than the K3.
I believe we should be able to address this with the NR in the K3, I'm still
learning how to adjust the NR.
Bob
K6UJ
On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:15 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
I
Bob,
The K3 has more reserve gain than most other receivers, and the lack of
signals cause the AGC to set the receiver top full gain.
With other receivers, I usually can run the preamp to advantage, but
with my K3 it is fine without the preamp on.
Do you have the preamp on? If not, perhaps
On 4/28/2012 6:22 AM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:
Fred,
Do the spurs appear on all bands?
Yes
Are the spurs still there if you disconnect the antenna from your K3?
Yes
When you tune, does the fequency of each spur change by the same amount
as the change in zero beat frequency due
This thread reminds me of the time traveler from 2012 who went back in
time and talked to the Mayans, describing in detail the widespread study
of their stone calendars and the concerns that the calendar ends in Oct
of 2012. The Mayans were incredulous, and the chief said to the time
Even though I'm still a couple of days away from receiving my K3, I can
think of one possible enhancement for a K4: license Siri from Apple.
Imagine the possibilities: Siri, where in the pile-up is that DX station
working? Siri, find me a good run frequency.
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Don,
I usually leave the preamp on and not really needed as you said. I will try
backing down the RF gain
a tad also. Thanks for the info.
I found too, unless I have other noise issues to deal with, setting the NR at
F1-1
reduces the hiss quite a bit, and no impact at all on the sig. Just
Shouldn't this be 1.15 not 1.16? Mine says 1.15
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Nope, the manual did not transfer. I tried to delete it, to no avail. I
will get my web site up soon I hope and then the beta will be available for
general distribution
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You only need set PRE/none/ATT and RF gain correctly. Many people seem to
thing that RF gain at max all the time and PRE on all the time, for all
bands all the time, is the normal setting.
You can make this exact same error on a Ten-Tec Orion. PRE/ATT/RF gain
need to be set for ambient noise
CW or SSB or both? How old is the K3? There was a DSP swapout that
addressed this. For SSB I drop the FC on the filter down to about 1.0
which helps. There were some other settings that might help. Check the
archives.
Mike W0MU
W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
On 4/28/2012 5:35 PM, Bob K6UJ
Try pressing the Copy Files from Elecraft button on the P3 Utility's
firmware page.
Dick, K6KR
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
You guys are on the wrong track, NR is a waste of time on the K3 on SSB, esp
low bands and attenuation ATT and/or RF gain reduction is way better to keep
audio clarity whilst making noise transparent. Recommend; AGC threshold = 8
AGC slope = 0.
This white noise issue is fixed with N1EU pink noise
Bob,
I would discourage you from using the preamp except on the higher bands
where the atmospheric noise is lower.
I would also discourage you from using NR for that purpose.
The K3 is a contest/DX class transceiver, and like a fine race car, does
need to have a little more than casual all
Somehow you're looking at a stale FTP directory. Here's the current
content:
FTP directory /P3/firmware at ftp.elecraft.com
To view this FTP site in Windows Explorer: press Alt, click View, and then
click Open FTP Site in Windows Explorer.
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Up to higher level directory
Guy,
Thanks for the info.
I think I have afraid I wont be able to copy weak signal fobia, hihi.
I need to experiment more with the RF gain and PRE and convince myself that
that I am not sacrificing weak sig copy.
My problem lies in the space between the headphones, hihihihi
Bob
K6UJ
On Apr
Bob,
Guy is giving you a lot of good advice, and he has some serious
operating skills behind him, so he knows what he is saying.
Maybe you can think of it this way -- You can't copy (with your ears)
signals that are buried in the atmospheric noise, so why make that noise
louder.
73,
Don
*Adrian,
My experience with those settings are the same as yours.
Works for me.
73's
Gary
*
On 29 April 2012 10:06, Adrian vk4...@bigpond.com wrote:
You guys are on the wrong track, NR is a waste of time on the K3 on SSB,
esp
low bands and attenuation ATT and/or RF gain reduction is way
Adrian vk4...@bigpond.com writes:
Thanks Eric, A concise response from you as always. Now to change subject I
saw your callsign on a Californian D-Star server log some time back, and it
was evident that you have used the mode. I was big on it a few years back
and I still have all the gear.
I am looking for a spare 10-32 Thumb Screw used with the KTS1 tilt
stand. In my rush to get off a peak today (operating SOTA) I dropped one.
Thanks,
Don, NK6A
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There are quite a few D-STAR repeaters and hot spots on the air that are
non-Icom and required no patent to build. D-STAR is an evolving technology
and it wouldn't be too far fetched for an enterprising company to build a
radio using similar chipsets and firmware currently being used in the
I agree fully, despite the article in the May issue of QST which glosses
over the proprietary nature of D-Star.
I am opposed to the use of proprietary protocols in ham radio. Ham
radio to me is free radio. I have passed my license requirements, and
should be able to use whatever modulation
Greg,
You don't need to purchase a patent license; all you need to do is order the
AMBE chips from DVSI (minimum quantity of 6, price per unit is $20US) and
incorporate them into your design. Having said that, I don't forsee Elecraft
doing this, as there are other sources of hardware for
Gary,
We have to prioritize implementation of improvements for all products,
including the K3. We won't be holding a vote like some software
companies do, so it's up to us to gauge the impact of each fix.
The issues you mentioned have very complex implications for the K3,
including the
Amen, amen! Ditto for the Proprietery PACTOR III Or anything else
Proprietary PERIOD!
This isn't what ham radio is all about! Can't agree with you more Don!
73,
Sandy W5TVW
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From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:42 PM
To: Greg Troxel
Cc:
Look in the parts list of your manual and you'll find the elecraft part
number, then order one. That's why the part numbers are there!
73, Ron AC7AC
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I am looking for a spare 10-32 Thumb Screw used with the KTS1 tilt stand.
In my rush to get off a peak today (operating
A couple weeks ago, I was on 40 meters with a group of friends, and one of
the guys (likes everyone on frequency ;-) suggested that I was off.
I finally got around to checking the K3 last week and found that it was off
by about 260 Hz from what it should have been. I rechecked the calibration
*There are also many digital signals that require the purchase of the
decode software and I do not support these also.
Downloaded some software just the other day, found out it would cost 29.95
to make it work. So I went to remove it and guess what?yep, a message
popped up saying sorry to see
I use a Datong FL3 audio filter and the difference to my ears is amazing. The
K3 sounds a lot lesser hissy and is very warm sounding when compared to the
unfiltered radio. Yes, I have tried all AGC and EQ settings.The difference can
not be equaled by just adjusting the RX EQ or by using
Bob,
Guy is giving you a lot of good advice, and he has some serious operating
skills behind him, so he knows what he is saying.
Maybe you can think of it this way -- You can't copy (with your ears)
signals that are buried in the atmospheric noise, so why make that noise
louder.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 4/28/2012 6:42 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I am opposed to the use of proprietary protocols in ham radio.
I feel the same way.
73, Jim K9YC
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Leaving aside the proprietary codec, much of the specification has been
implemented as open source software; for those that don't like the codec, there
is work progressing on a replacement, which I am following closely. For what
it's worth, this is the second time today I've had this debate,
Good Evening,
Since forty meters does not open up as early this time of year the
second net has been pushed later by an hour. If this does not work I'll
push it another hour next week. Thus the forty meter net will begin at
0100z or 6 PM Pacific time. Hopefully the time change will help
Gary,
That is sort-of OK, but until they offer it at no cost, I an not going
to buy. Even a $20 discount for what ought to be free is not
appealing to me.
OK, you did not say it was ham radio software, nor did you say it was
some proprietary codec, and that is OK with me (it does not
Matthew,
No need for debate - just need for open source software to replace the
D-Star proprietary stuff.
When that open source software is available, I will strongly consider
it. There is a lot of function (particularly for ECOMM) that is useful.
In the meantime, I stand by my position that
Don -
I am not suggesting that you include D-Star in your products, and I am not
going to change your mind, but I tend to disagree with the concern about D-Star
over the proprietary nature of ABME...
Not to split hairs, but the mode of D-Star is Gaussian minimum shift keying,
a form of
Don,
In a pinch, you can run to the local hardware store or good DIY
emporium and look in the drawers for some suitable substitute with
10-32 threads. When you settle down from the current event, you can
order the proper replacements from Elecraft - unfortunately, you will
have to order it
Don,
In a pinch, you can run to the local hardware store or good DIY
emporium and look in the drawers for some suitable substitute with
10-32 threads. When you settle down from the current event, you can
order the proper replacements from Elecraft - unfortunately, you will
have to order it
Don, I see the argument against proprietary codec etc, but the $20 actually
buy's you the ambe chip ready to added to your circuit.
If a company came up with a secret battery that would outlast any other by a
factor of two, does that mean you should not place it in your KX3 because
it has
We're exceeding the OT posting volume limit on this one. (Over ten posts in
about 2 hrs, wow..)
In the interest of reducing email list overload for those not interested in
this topic, let's end the thread for now. In general ham radio policy topics
are best debated on other lists and forums.
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