You can tell if the noise floor increase is due to increased gain by seeing if
signals increase in strength along with the noise.
As Don said, OCFs are prone to common mode issues. Perhaps the power supply is
acting as a ground return for the 'common mode antenna'? A common mode choke on
the
As I mentioned in an earlier post, the K3 / K3s "J3" connector leveraged by
the K-Pod was originally
intended to serve as a MPLAB ICD 2 (In-Circuit Debugger),
http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/ICD-2%20Schematic.jpg
http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/MPLAB%20ICD%202.jpg
Clay,
The K3 and K3S schematics are the same with respect to that connector.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 7/15/2016 11:35 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
RR... I just cracked the K-pod manual and see that the cable is an
RJ-25 cable... different pinouts from the RJ-12. (both 6P6C).
I need the signals crossed
RR... I just cracked the K-pod manual and see that the cable is an
RJ-25 cable... different pinouts from the RJ-12. (both 6P6C).
I need the signals crossed with the pin numbers... or colors...
No schematics for the K3s... I guess I'll try the K3 manual to see if
it is at all illuminating...
Don is correct but, actually, the connector is a 6PC6 male. The "RJ" numbers
refer to the wiring AND connector. So it is NOT an RJ12 cable since only 5
conductors are used.
73, Ron AC7AC
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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Agree with your points. I've said for a couple of decades now that one
of the least expensive ways to improve a modest station (assuming one
has at least a decent antenna) is to add an amplifier. Lots cheaper
than a bigger tower and a bigger antenna.
Also, to your point about arrival
Awww..come on Merv.be nice..obviously reading comprehension may
not be a requirement at MONTAC ???
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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Merv
Schweigert
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Well
years ago I put up a 160 meter L and found it to be a noisy band
so went to 75
found it could be matched with the K3s tuner
but I wanted to run me amp
built a matcher that did a good job with that 75 meter half wave
that end fed half wave does a good job stateside and when 75 opens
up
Oops.. I missed that. It would never occur to me to buy a "built" unit
if I could get it as a kit...
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On 7/15/2016 8:43 PM, Merv Schweigert wrote:
> Now why would he do all that? He said he ordered a BUILT K3S-100
>
>
Sorry, I frankly have never looked at the jack on the bottom of my K3s
closely.
OK, RJ 12... still want to know which signals are on which pins...
Guess I'll have to go do it myself this is about 187 on my TO DO
list... ;)
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Not THAT into it... I don't own a K-pod... Was just going to review
the pin out to see if a better cable design was possible...
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On 7/15/2016 6:55 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:
> It is a 6-pin connector and the wire at pin 1
If I remember correctly, AGC is set to off automatically in data modes.
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Now why would he do all that? He said he ordered a BUILT K3S-100
Holy cow!!! NICE!!! You should be all set...
Start reading the Assembly manual... 3 times at least.
Get a box(es) with at least 30 compartments to separate out all the
hardware...
Also... do a 100% inventory BEFORE you
Holy cow!!! NICE!!! You should be all set...
Start reading the Assembly manual... 3 times at least.
Get a box(es) with at least 30 compartments to separate out all the
hardware...
Also... do a 100% inventory BEFORE you start... It's a pain, but it will
save you a LOT of trouble and headaches
Clay,
Not possible - the connector is an RJ12.
Pin 1 is not used and should be clipped at each end for best results.
In other words, an Ethernet cable will not work.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 7/15/2016 7:47 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
Can someone send me the RJ-45 pinout for the connection to the K-pod
It is a 6-pin connector and the wire at pin 1 should be cut at the radio
end and to be safe cut it at both ends.
Yes, people will use full 6-pin cables and may not observe any
problems. Regardless of such anecdotal evidencee, cut the wire to pin 1.
And of course, turn off the radio before
Can someone send me the RJ-45 pinout for the connection to the K-pod
(with and without the power mod)?
I'd like to take a look at it I am somewhat confident that a
standard CAT-5e cable, while functional is not the BEST solution...
Thanks!
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When I had a K3, I used the GT command to set AGC off for data modes using
GT000;
I cannot seem to get that to work with the KX3. Is it not available? My reading
of The Programmers Reference implies it *is* available.
Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB
Or just feed a grounded 50-foot tower with a 1/4 wave long stub
alongside it space a few inches. 3/4 wave at 14-MHz is 53 feet and
the 1/4 wave stub would be 17.7 foot. Hook your coax across between
stub and tower and slide it up till you find a 50-ohm match. I've
used small worm-gear hose
No. That was a specific statement. The general version would read
"Most generalizations..." Alan used 'All' which is a specific.
Ah the vagaries of language...
Rick nhc
On 7/15/2016 2:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Including that one? :-)
Phil W7OX
On 7/15/16 2:06 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:
On
Kevin,
As I mentioned, I think this will depend on the Voltage Regulation level
in the receiver.
The Elecraft gear operates down low in voltage pretty well. I have
experienced what
you describe with other gear I have owned, but I have not compared if a
difference is heard
when going from a
Including that one? :-)
Phil W7OX
On 7/15/16 2:06 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:
On 07/15/2016 11:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
There are exceptions to every generalization,
even when the
generalization is good most of the time.
"All generalizations are wrong."
Alan N1AL
Kev,
Yes, common mode current can be a problem on receive as well as transmit.
Transmit will cause RF-in-the-shack which is more obvious because you
can be 'bitten' by RF. On receive, the common mode current will result
in added receive noise due to pickup of noise on the transmission line.
Hi Guy,
(Interesting, and nice writing, BTW)
I share your experience with batteries, only from the Bell side of
things. We ran the major switching centers you described.
We had individual cells that held 50 gallons of acid in each cell. A
graph was kept for each cell. They lasted many
On 07/15/2016 11:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
There are exceptions to every generalization, even when the
generalization is good most of the time.
"All generalizations are wrong."
Alan N1AL
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Thanks Dick and Howard...
The RS-50 is pretty new - maybe 6 months old and is in daily use. It wasn't
until I had a rig I could easily run on batteries did I notice the noise.
The RS-12 is quite old, maybe 15 years? It had been in storage about 10
years until trying it out today. I think I need
On Fri,7/15/2016 12:16 PM, brian wrote:
It might be more interesting to discuss something like $/db to get to
closer to optimum. Going from low dipole to a higher one might cost
zero to a couple hundred and gain 3 db at about $10-$100/db.
You will find exactly that analysis here.
Hi Kevin,
It is very possible that what you are experiencing is noise induced by
common-mode currents from your antenna system. These currents take any
path connected to the chassis of the rig including ANY AC mains
connected power supply, regardless of whether it is a switcher or
linear.
Guys,
There is another issue here.
That is :
Just because ones antenna pattern is inferior to an optimum one by 5 or
even 20 db at the best arrival angle, that doesn't mean there is zero
energy at the most important arrival angles. It just means there is less.
QRPers often work the same
Again, thanks for all the help on and off list. My ship came in a bit faster
than expected, so I've been able to order a built K3S-100 today, with ATU,
SubRX, DigVoice, GenRX, TCXO/REF, 2.8/1.8/1.0/400/250 8-pole filters, K-Pod,
mike and headset as well as a P3 with TXMON and SVGA. No 2m module -
Yes, it can be tricky (I call it "fiddly"), especially the first time.
If the connectors are aligned with the KRX3A pc board as seen from above in
Fig 48 in the KRX3A manual, they are properly mated.
73, Ron AC7AC
-Original Message-
Removing the left side panel also makes it much
On Fri,7/15/2016 10:07 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:
shows an example where IONCAP says there is no (usable) path between
two stations, yet QSOs are made.
Wes,
There are exceptions to every generalization, even when the
generalization is good most of the time. I recall some well known person
who
I am starting to use some digital modes and couldn't find any
specs/guidelines on max power, duty cycle or FP temp. Running only 5W on
JT65 (ie, 50% duty cycle) I see the FP temp get up to 43C after just one or
two QSO's. Is an external fan recommended when using high duty cycle modes?
Thanks,
For a 20M J-Pole look at N1LO's web page -
http://www.qsl.net/n1lo/antenna.htm
I have used his 10M collinear super J-Pole for years in my HOA-neighborhood
back yard hanging from tall tree limbs. For the last 2 years it has been
supported by a 55 ft fiberglass mast. It is my year-round go-to
I'll make a few closing comments, as I suspect the moderator will be cutting
this off soon.
When I used 45 degrees, that was a number out of a hat for illustrative purposes
only. The point being that we hams tend to think that we can "force" the TOA to
be lower, and lower is always "better."
I suggest cutting the wire connected to pin 1 at the radio end. Can't
hurt to cut it at both ends. Otherwise, there is a possibility of the
radio doing things you prefer it to not do, probably precisely when you
prefer that it not do those things...
The function associated with pin 1 is not
OK, my "80-10 EFHW", which is how it's marketed, is really an "EFHWO8OBWGOOBT"?
(End Fed On 80 But Works Great On Other Bands Too). :-)
73,
Fred K6DGW
TDY in SoCal on my Kindle
Rick Robinson wrote:
>I don't want to come off as a "A-Hole" but the use of efhw for any end
Bill
So far, I'm experiencing normal operation of the K-Pod with a 14ft RJ12
6C straight through cable. Search for:
"09600 RJ12 6P6C Straight Modular Cable"
on Amazon. It was $4.99 as an add-on item to a larger order.
At this point, I am not using the power modification on the K3, so I
will
Hi... I have a KX3 and normally run it on batteries. I also have a
Flex-6500 that runs on a big RS-50.
Last night during the QRP Fox Hunt (only 1 pelt) I decided to shutdown the
Flex and give the KX3 a shot. I powered up the Flex on its internal
batteries and, while I had the headphones on,
I don't want to come off as a "A-Hole" but the use of efhw for any end fed
antenna is really getting out of hand. We as hams need to step up our game
in regards to our communication skills of day to day speech. We, as
hams,are regarded as communication specialists and this should go with our
Soun ds like a menu setting is in the wrong setting.
Jim K9TF
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The terminology is very *important* for clarity in what you are talking
about - especially in the field of antennas where many classic names
have been modified so that there is no longer any meaning in the name -
I pointed this out in reference to the number of antennas referred to as
a Zepp.
Tony,
I use to have a K3, still enjoy this list.
I run a P3 SCS modem on winlink I think the issue now could be band
conditions.
They are pretty bad http://www.bandconditions.com/ also, the propagation
channel selection
in Winlink Express is showing the same here in Florida.
Good
Charlie,
There is nothing wrong with making a true Zepp antenna for any band - we
usually refer to them as a J-Pole that is popular at VHF/UHF.
Use 300 ohm transmission line for the 1/4 wave matching section.
See the works of Gary O'Neil N3GO on J-poles for discussion of the ideal
Here's another aricle, by W8JI, on feeding the EFHW:
http://www.w8ji.com/end-fed_1_2_wave_matching_system_end%20feed.htm
Bob NW8L
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Dave,
All that is theoretical does not translate directly to the physical world.
Take a look at
There is a terminology issue, Charlie. The "EFHW"
I use is this one:
http://www.earchi.org/92011endfedfiles/Endfed6_40.pdf
and is fed via a 9:1 UN-UN. Uses the coax shield
as a counterpoise and seems to work well over the
bands of interest -- depending on the length of
wire used. An ATU is
Folks,
I recently set up an SCS DR-7400 with my K3 on Winlink.
I must have some settings that
are slightly off, since my link
up capabilities (HF) are not
as reliable as I expected.
So, I would appreciate feedback
from Winlink users who are actively using their K3.
Here is what I am interested
Elecraft K3/100 with KAT3A, 2.7kHz filter, 700Hz filter (INRAD), 400Hz
filter, PR6 preamp, KSYNTH3A upgrade. Elecraft P3 Panadapter with SVGA
and TXMON (2KW sensor). High Serial numbers (K3:86xx, P3:25xx). No
scratches, non-smoker. Package deal only, asking $3900 for both, plus
shipping &
One other question I have concerns the length of these "EFHW" antennas that
many are using.
That is, are they REALLY End Fed Half-Waves? In other words, are they cut
to be an electrical half wave-length or, are they simply a convenient
length of wire, that is fed at one end?
There could be a
1) For the low bands, the overwhelming consideration is reduction in near
field losses, both dielectric and I squared R (I2R) losses.
2) We need to remember that for non salt water situations vertically
polarized RF is NOT reflected from dirt and rock. For all intents and
purposes it is absorbed.
We need to distinguish between an end fed wire (EFW) and an end fed
HALF WAVE wire (EFHW). If one has an actual half wave wire being
called by the name EFHW, several things are true. One, the feed Z at
the end is ridiculously high, with HV and painful burns in play even
for 100W. Many (most?)
Hi Wes, et al.
I went looking through emails from you to find the reference, because I
wanted to read it. I did not locate or recognize the reference in those
emails. That aside...
For conversation purposes I'll begin this assuming a flooded wet cell
battery. That's because I have a pair of
Don's comments on the fact that a J-pole is merely a Zepp where the
1/2 wave radiator is vertical is something I discovered a few years
ago. I have a dual-band J-pole on 10m/6m which works well.
Note that the bottom end of the 1/4 wave matching stub is
shorted. By attaching coax to the stub
Removing the left side panel also makes it much easier to confirm that
the connectors at the rear left of the KRX3 have been mated correctly.
First-time assembly can be a little tricky, but becomes much easier
after the connector pins have settled into their correct alignment.
(The same is also
By "works great" I assume you mean it loads well, which is
understandable since a horizontal wire 6 feet off the ground is going to
look pretty lossy.
Dave AB7E
On 7/14/2016 10:17 PM, k6dgw wrote:
80. KAT3 will match it on 160, haven't tried to make any Q's there yet. Works great
Al,
The dynamic balance between the base and emitter of Q12 determine the
AGC Fast/Slow response. The dynamic characteristics of Q12 as well as
R2, C4, RP6 and C1 all come into play.
Remember when doing the analysis that the voltage at /SLOW AGC is at 5
volts for fast AGC. When you consider
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