Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

On 4/16/2018 10:15 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: wsjt-x is quite CPU intensive. Running FT8 That's not entirely consistent with my experience and what I've heard from WSJT-X developers. MSK144 IS quite demanding of processor, speed, and RAM. Other modes generally are not. As long as 5-6 years ago,

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wsjt-x is quite CPU intensive. Running FT8, it has a lot of computing to do to decode the signals in the 3 second or so window it has. It is decoding multiple signals, and then reconstituting the decoded signals so it can subtract them from the input and decode the signals hiding underneath

Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

On 13/04/18 21:14, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps > Message-ID: <17e8f51187234f12854d33c210d8d...@smtp.videotron.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > So forgive me but is it the case that the 32 b

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> > > So, for now... I do not upgrade an OS unless and until I know that my apps > will run properly. > > > /end rant > > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Frantz <fra...@pwpconsult.com <mailto:fra...@pwpconsult.com>> > To: elecra

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at my apps will run properly. /end rant -Original Message- From: Bill Frantz <fra...@pwpconsult.com> To: elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2018 9:44 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps When I launched the K3 utility, I

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When I launched the K3 utility, I got a message saying in essence, that it was using obsolete technology. It referenced which says that soon 32 bit applications will not run. To quote: "Starting with macOS High Sierra 10.13.4, apps that have not

Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

Failing memories indeed. I worked for CDC Sunnyvale Ops back in the early 1970s and part of that time I was briefly working on the FTN (aka Fortran) compiler, Pass 1. The regular floating point on the 6600 was 60 bits as the word size on the computer was 60 bits. The failing memory part — I

Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

Details, details ... 128 or 120, their both greater than 64 [yes, it is 120].  It's a long way to the moon and truncation errors in the numerical integration summed to unacceptable levels on the UNIVAC 1108 [64-bit DP FP] machines.  I just couldn't pass up the chance to point out that "newest

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My failing memory seems to recall that the CDC6600 used 60 bit math for floating point single precision operations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_6600 seems to confirm that. They were great machines, till the 7600 then the Cray computers showed up... It was interesting to bring these

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These young whippersnappers. Back when I was a kid, we used to carve our own ICs out of wood. :D On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 14:06 Fred Jensen wrote: > We already did, in the later 70's. It ran on a CDC6600. We used it for > guidance analysis and trajectory

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We already did, in the later 70's.  It ran on a CDC6600.  We used it for guidance analysis and trajectory planning/simulation for the Apollo missions.  FORTRAN IV, double precision FP words. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 4/12/2018 11:10 PM, Martin Sole wrote:

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That did it - thanks. Jeff - kg7hdz > On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:34 AM, Johan Ymerson wrote: > > > By the way, if you get errors when the K3/KX3 utilities is checking for new > firmware, try installing the 'curl' package. >

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That is very easy to test, isn't it. Just tried on Ubuntu 17.10 "Live-CD" (just boot the desktop ISO without installing). This is what I get: ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads/k3util_1_16_6_25$ ./k3util bash: ./k3util: No such file or directory /Johan, SM0XHJ On 2018-04-13 10:55, Gordon LaPoint

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Linux 32 bit applications *WILL* run on 64bit operating systems.  I do software development for Raspberry Pi and Linux desktop systems in both 32 bit and 64bit versions.     The Raspian version of Debian is only 32 bit, so it will not run 64 bit programs, but the 64bit desktop will run both

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s.org> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps Yes - you are correct. It didn’t occur to me when I installed it that it shouldn’t run due to the different architecture. Turns out that the first thing I installed to the fresh installation of Raspbian was E

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from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: "Thorpe, Jeffrey" <jtho...@liberty.edu> Date: 2018-04-12 9:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To: John Marvin <jm...@themarvins.org> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

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smartphone. Original message From: "Thorpe, Jeffrey" <jtho...@liberty.edu> Date: 2018-04-12 9:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To: John Marvin <jm...@themarvins.org> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps Yes - you are correct. It did

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Yes - you are correct. It didn’t occur to me when I installed it that it shouldn’t run due to the different architecture. Turns out that the first thing I installed to the fresh installation of Raspbian was Exagear Desktop to test with a different application (a windows one.) I had thought that

Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

Actually there is a Linux version of the KX3 utility. The error posted suggests it might have been the Windows X86 version, or needs to be compiled for the ARM processor instead of the Intel/AMD. Regardless the source code is not available so move along folks, nothing to see here. And since

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Unless you ran it under emulation (e.g. wine or something like that), I think you are misremembering. KX3 utility is currently only available as X86 32 bit application. It can't run natively on a Raspberry Pi. 73, John AC0ZG On 4/12/2018 10:43 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: I don’t remember -

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If you want to run 64 bit Linux on a Raspberry Pi 3, you will probably need to use a different distribution than Raspbian, which currently only exists in a 32 bit version. Bob, N7XY On 4/12/18 9:43 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: I don’t remember - I’ll try to look at it tonight and see how. I

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I don’t remember - I’ll try to look at it tonight and see how. I don’t think I had to do anything goofy...I’m running the latest Raspbian also. Jeff - kg7hdz On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:18 AM, James Austin > wrote: I just downloaded and tried to run it on a

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On Thursday, 12 April 2018 18:18:15 CEST you wrote: > Johan Ymerson wrote on 04/12/2018 10:03 AM: > > Sure there are 32-bit desktops out there, therefor I wrote pretty dead, > > not > > completely dead ;-) > > Two years ago, Ubuntu did a poll and 92% answered they used the 64-bit > > version. > >

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I just downloaded and tried to run it on a Pi running the latest version of Raspian got the error I expected. pi@raspberrypi:~/kx3util_1_16_6_25 $ ./kx3util -bash: ./kx3util: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error pi@raspberrypi:~/kx3util_1_16_6_25 $ How did you get it to run? Jim/KA2RVO

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On Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:18:12 CEST D. R. Evans wrote: > Johan Ymerson wrote on 04/12/2018 08:48 AM: > > 32-bit Linux is pretty dead as OS on desktops/laptops. Sure, many embedded > > ?? > > I have several 32-bit Linux desktop boxes here, all working perfectly. > Including the shack

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Does it? Where can I download it for the Pi (ARM)? I do have a Pi in my sailing boat so a Pi version of KX3 Utility could be useful :-) /Johan On Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:32:33 CEST Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: > KX3 Utility runs on my Pi. > > Jeff - kg7hdz > > > On Apr 12, 2018, at 07:52, Johan

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KX3 Utility runs on my Pi. Jeff - kg7hdz > On Apr 12, 2018, at 07:52, Johan Ymerson wrote: > >> On Thursday, 12 April 2018 14:40:58 CEST Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: >> Oh, and not to mention the Raspberry Pi. While it is a 64 bit Arm, Raspbian >> OS is still only 32 bit. >> >>

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On Thursday, 12 April 2018 14:40:58 CEST Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: > Oh, and not to mention the Raspberry Pi. While it is a 64 bit Arm, Raspbian > OS is still only 32 bit. > > Jeff - kg7hdz > On the other hand, the K3 Utility has to my knowledge never been available for ARM, 32-bit or otherwise.

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I still occasionally use an older 2007 Macbook that will not run anything newer than OSX 10.6.8. It handles my radio apps just fine. Jeff - kg7hdz > On Apr 12, 2018, at 5:02 AM, Dave Sublette wrote: > > Good morning David, > > A curious bit of circumstance forced me to

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Any idea when the Mac version of theKPA1500 utility will be available? > On Apr 12, 2018, at 2:59 AM, David Fleming via Elecraft > wrote: > > Yes.. No worries. All new releases of the Mac and Linux versions of the > Elecraft Utilities will be 64-bit. As a result, OS

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Oh, and not to mention the Raspberry Pi. While it is a 64 bit Arm, Raspbian OS is still only 32 bit. Jeff - kg7hdz > On Apr 12, 2018, at 5:39 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: > > I still occasionally use an older 2007 Macbook that will not run anything > newer than OSX 10.6.8.

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Good morning David, A curious bit of circumstance forced me to use an earlier version of the Apple O/S recently. My old Mac Mini died when its UPS went hysterical and cycled the power violently several times. I bought a new one, complete with 16GB RAM and the 1TB Fusion Drive (and a new power

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Yes.. No worries. All new releases of the Mac and Linux versions of the Elecraft Utilities will be 64-bit. As a result, OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will no longer be supported and users of 32-bit Linux will need to upgrade to a 64-bit distro. This will be a gradual process as new revisions of the

[Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

Apple is starting to push 64 bit apps on the Mac. Will these change to 64 bit soon? 73, John N1JM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft