N6xvt,
OK, but if you wanted to do that fine tuning, wound it be pain. If so best to
buy assembled?
On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:
No alignment is needed. I'll probably include the ability to fine-tune
the amplitude (like the K3 S-meter calibration) and frequency but it's
not
I just hope if the P3 is in kit forum, which I like. That one does not
20K worth of test gear and a Masters degree to adjust allinement!
N6XVT
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On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Alan Bloom a...@elecraft.com wrote:
The P3 will be available as a no solder kit like the
Darn! I was hoping that it would go on the LEFT side of the K3.
Terry W0FM
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Darn! I was hoping that it would go on the LEFT side of the K3.
Terry W0FM
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The supplied cables are long enough that you have your choice.
Dick, K6KR
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The supplied cables are long enough that you have your choice.
Yes, but don't you have to interchange the if in and if out cables? And
doesn't
the scan run from right-to-left?
And can't you select your own colors (for those who have vonRecklinghausen's
color
blindness)? 8)
You guys are
not with the handle there!
but I guess you can put it wherever you want :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 15 Feb 2010, at 21:15, Terry Schieler wrote:
Darn! I was hoping that it would go on the LEFT side of
No alignment is needed. I'll probably include the ability to fine-tune
the amplitude (like the K3 S-meter calibration) and frequency but it's
not necessary.
Alan N1AL
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:03 -0800, Karl Marderian wrote:
I just hope if the P3 is in kit forum, which I like. That one does
Hell Yaesu has a great website with lots of information. Try giving
them a call and getting them to help you debug an issue! Try emailing
a designer! If you think Microsoft and HP provides excellent support
of their products you have a low standard.
As far as your K3 arriving later than you
On 14 Feb 2010, at 08:59, Brett Howard wrote:
As far as your K3 arriving later than you thought it would its not
like you were forced into waiting for it.
Um mine (2184) arrived earlier than I was expecting, about 6 weeks actually.
Made me a very happy chappie.
de John
EI7IG
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But I'm equally sure there are a lot of people who don't want the huge ugly
Hi Brett -
I seriously think you're missing the point. The point was that other
companies offer support, too, and they do. I agreed that Elecraft
support is outstanding, so I'm pretty sure we're in agreement there.
I note that you did not comment on the origin of the components inside
the K3.
Sure I can comment on the origin of parts:
There is nothing one can do about the origin of the parts... I work in
the electronics design industry as well and there really is nothing you
can build if you're only willing to use parts made in the USA. But
there is a LOT to be said about designed
Brett -
You're drawing an arbitrary line in the sand.
Your original statement was All of that equipment was made by teams
of Chinese people who are paid very poorly and aren't treated all that
well either.
My point was that the people churning out those chips probably fall
into the same
Gentlemen - Let's end this OT part of the thread and take it to direct
email.
(Also, as a general note to everyone, please stop copying 100% of prior
posts in each reply. It clogs the reflector and digests. And it makes it
painful to read for those of us reading email using PDAs like the
The P3 will be available as a no solder kit like the K3 as well as an
assembled unit.
Alan N1AL
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 17:32 -0800, Phil Hystad wrote:
Does anyone know if this is a kit (likely a simple kit?) or something that is
all ready to be plugged in and used?
73, phil, K7PEH
You've got that bugger running fast! Good on ya! Now I just hope with
all hope that I can get one in my hands before FD!
~Brett (KC7OTG)
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 21:47 -0800, Alan Bloom wrote:
The P3 will be available as a no solder kit like the K3 as well as an
assembled unit.
Alan N1AL
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 17:18 -0800, Brett Howard wrote:
I'm waiting for someone to take a VIDEO so that we can see the refresh
rate of the thing
Currently about 20 Hz (50 ms).
But from the sounds of it it sounds like there
are still a lot of optimizations that are going on to attempt to
The Agilent MXA's tout their speep speed... You can easily get them
upwards of around 30 to 40+ sweeps/sec. ;)
~Brett
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 21:50 -0800, Alan Bloom wrote:
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 17:18 -0800, Brett Howard wrote:
I'm waiting for someone to take a VIDEO so that we can see the
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On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Dave - AB7E xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:
Are the feature list and specifications now firm? And if so, what are they?
I would have thought that anyone contemplating spending $700 for any box,
even with the Elecraft name on it, would want to know what it
Guy -
Please don't forget that Elecraft sucked in quite a few of us on the K3 by
promising wildly optimistic delivery dates. I consider that to be a highly
questionable business practice.
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote:
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at
I think for the 250 I invested in a LP-PAN and sound card that will do me
fine. If the price will be around the SDR-IQ I might have second thoughts.
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to take it. Why not? Mail a check now? If the price is determined
by what we are willing to pay, consider paying less. It is okay to pay less
guys. 73. Ron
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models, and take you all some pictures. But it's too cotton-pickin cold
here in Florida! Sorry.
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Another price point is the LP
a thought.
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Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222.
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like some of us seek value for my money with an empahsis on more value and less
money.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:40:12 -0800
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I think
are on the
cutting edge, whether they are here or elsewhere. How you choose to view them
is called marketing.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:08:14 -0800
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What drives
] Elecraft P3 panadapter at the Orlando Hamcation
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Dave - AB7E xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:
Are the feature list and specifications now firm? And if so, what are they?
I would have thought that anyone contemplating spending $700 for any box,
even with the Elecraft
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But I'm equally sure
there are a lot of people who don't want the huge ugly screen hogging
resource hogging PowerSDR application just to show them a graphical display
of band activity
a lot of portable, I
would want one.
I think they will sell quite a few P3s.
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are willing to pay, consider paying less. It is okay to pay less
guys. 73. Ron
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By way of comparison, $700 would buy the following PC and monitor at Costco:
Processor Memory:
Intel® Core 2 Quad Processor Q8300 (2.5GHz)
4MB L2 cache
1333MHz Front Side Bus
6GB DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM memory (4 Dimms)
Drives:
640GB (7,200RPM) SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
LightScribe 16x max DVD±R/RW
On 2/13/10 8:23 AM, KM4VX wrote:
The P-3 could sell for a few
hundred dollars at profit, similar to other panadapters. Instead, we are
talking about more than double that price. Companies recover their RD
investments over time, and the higher the selling price the shorter the RD
investment
,
... Joe, W4TV
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I would beg to differ. As a past owner of an FT-2000d with
the DMU-2000 pan adapter I have to say 1 - that pan adapter
was FAR MORE than what Elecraft has described the P3 would
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The Smiths wrote:
In my personal opinion, for Elecraft to charge more than $700 (if that)
for a pan adapter that does only one or at best 2
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On 2/13/10 8:23 AM, KM4VX wrote:
The P-3 could sell for a few
hundred dollars at profit, similar to other panadapters. Instead, we are
talking about more than double that price. Companies recover their RD
There are indeed less expensive ways to display the frequency spectrum on
your PC screen, including the LP-pan which has received well-deserved praise
and acceptance. But many people prefer a self-contained solution, which
will be provided by the P3. What is an acceptable price for this is a
One interesting feature Wayne showed was the ability to line up
vertical line with a spot on the display, tap the knob (the lower
right hand one), and it would QSY the rig there.
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Craig D. Smith cr...@powersmith.net wrote:
There are indeed less expensive ways to
All of that equipment was made by teams of Chinese people who are paid
very poorly and aren't treated all that well either. The P3 is a labor
of love put together by a select few engineers. Its probably built by
people in California with health coverage, life insurance, and a decent
living
I also would like to see the config menu blow out to the P3 if you have
it...
So you open the config menu an then you get to see all the parameters
and their current values displayed over on the larger LCD. Then you can
scroll to the one you want to change and turn the other knob to change
its
It wouldn't be inconceivable that the CW Skimmer functionality could be
implemented into the P3. They already have CW decode in the K3... All
they have do to is detect the signals and feed them into the same
algorithm. Then if you want just detect whats after the de's and
display calls only if
it. This is a
sophisticated and tech savvy group; maybe just too loose with its cash Of
course I will be proven wrong, which is okay because I wish the company all
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They would have refunded your money if you wanted to back out you
weren't sucked into anything.
~Brett
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:08 -0500, S Sacco wrote:
Guy -
Please don't forget that Elecraft sucked in quite a few of us on the K3 by
promising wildly optimistic delivery dates. I consider
I'm waiting for someone to take a VIDEO so that we can see the refresh
rate of the thing But from the sounds of it it sounds like there
are still a lot of optimizations that are going on to attempt to improve
that refresh rate...
~Brett (KC7OTG)
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:57 -0600, Dave Quick
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:04:50 -0800
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They would have refunded your money if you wanted to back out you
weren't sucked into anything.
~Brett
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:08 -0500, S
Does anyone know if this is a kit (likely a simple kit?) or something that is
all ready to be plugged in and used?
73, phil, K7PEH
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Let's stay cool on the speculation here for a while until more facts are
available. Eric is in Orlando, and I am certain when he returns, there
will be information on the Elecraft website about the P3, and maybe even
the price. Wait until at least Wednesday so Eric can clear his
I had the IC756PRO series from 2001 to last August and at first I was
impressed with the scope function but in a short time I found that it
was not terribly useful but was fun to look at. It was lacking a
waterfall capability which the P3 (as well as PowerSDR-IF) had which
makes all the
Brett -
While we're thinking about stuff...where do you suppose most of the
components inside the P3 were manufactured?
Regarding support...I don't know...HP (hardware) and Microsoft (OS)
seem to have pretty large websites with lots of information on
them...and plenty of updates...especially
about bringing the worst part of the
Flex-radio to the K3? PowerSDR is the worst interface
in the world for a radio ... the FFT delays make the
K3 monitor sound instantaneous.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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took today at the Orlando Hamcation.
Eric, WA6HHQ, said he expected the price to be around $700.00 (no commitment
here - price subject to change) and he hopes to begin shipping sometime in
April. He said that
Well, I will be ordering one. Are orders being taken now?
73, phil, K7PEH
On Feb 12, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Dave Quick - KØEKL wrote:
Below is a link to a couple photos of the new Elecraft P3 panadapter which I
took today at the Orlando Hamcation.
Eric, WA6HHQ, said he expected the price to be
Never mind that. How do the hats look? :-P
Seriously, thanks for the preview.
73, Mike NF4L
Dave Quick - KØEKL wrote:
Below is a link to a couple photos of the new Elecraft P3 panadapter which I
took today at the Orlando Hamcation.
Eric, WA6HHQ, said he expected the price to be around
On Feb 12, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Dave Quick - KØEKL wrote:
Eric, WA6HHQ, said he expected the price to be around $700.00 (no commitment
here - price subject to change) and he hopes to begin shipping sometime in
April.
I want one. I don't need one. Crikey! -- there's not much I really NEED
Anyone know the resolution of the display that was selected?
~Brett (KC7OTG)
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